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5/4/13 5:46 PM Thomas Moore- Utopia This was in between the time of the printing process Allowing for the movement of knowledge When they were discovering the west And they had new ideals The book is about the ideal commonwealth Could be addressed to his friend Erasmus o It was him and Peter Guiles and Erasmus together Erasmus has ideals similar to Epicurian o We feel pleasure and pain o Our actions should be towards achieving pleasure o Try to avoid pain But we should look at if our actions will cause pain later or hurt others, and if it will we shouldn’t do it want to make yourself an agent of pleasure for others things are not technically bad unless they cause pain (ex- sex is ok) Meet Rafael Hythlodaeus o He is basically voicing the ideas of Erasmus/ Epicuran ideas o He does not lend his mind to the Kings of his land because he would just be deemed too radical and his opinions would not be tolerated o Wants a country where people do agriculture work and then have time to do leisurely activities o He does not want private property o More suggests that he just bend his philosophy to be more suitable for the person ruling, and Hythloday says that is near lying Shows the difference between being realistic and idealistic (Aristotle vs Plato) neither is willing to budge. o He wants communal property just like plato Allows for there to be less disparity.

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05/05/2013Thomas Moore- Utopia This was in between the time of the printing process Allowing for the movement of knowlege !hen the" were iscovering the west An the" ha new ieals The book is abo#t the ieal commonwealth $o#l be aresse to his frien %rasm#so &t was him an 'eter (#iles an %rasm#s together %rasm#s has ieals similar to %pic#rian o !e feel pleas#re an paino )#r actions sho#l be towars achieving pleas#re o Tr" to avoi pain *#t we sho#l look at if o#r actions will ca#se pain later or h#rt others+ an if it will we sho#ln,t o it want to make "o#rself an agent of pleas#re for others things are not technicall" ba #nless the" ca#se pain -e.- se. is ok/ Meet 0afael 1"thloae#so 1e is basicall" voicing the ieas of %rasm#s/ %pic#ran ieaso 1e oes not len his min to the 2ings of his lan beca#se he wo#l 3#st be eeme too raical an his opinions wo#l not be tolerateo !ants a co#ntr" where people o agric#lt#re work an then have time to o leis#rel" activities o 1e oes not want private propert" o More s#ggests that he 3#st ben his philosoph" to be more s#itable for the person r#ling+ an 1"thloa" sa"s that is nearl"ing 4hows the ifference between being realistic an iealistic -Aristotle vs 'lato/ neither is willing to b#ge5 o 1e wants comm#nal propert" 3#st like plato Allows for there to be less isparit"5 o Moore arg#es that this allows for people to pigg"back off of one another+ there will be lack of a#thorit" an this will ca#se iscomforto &f "o# are a slave+ "o#r chil will not be born as a slave (oes against 'lato,s esire for rigi social str#ct#reo A lot of the things he sa"s arean attack on the c#rrent a" %#ropean societ" 6o treaties beca#se it sho#l not be paper that makes someone keep their wor5 -of co#rse all the %#ropeans keep their wor/o 4laves onl" occ#r beca#se of social behavior -not beca#se we are inherentl" ifferent like 'lato sa"s/o Utopia accepts that people will never tr#l" lose their vices anthe laws are mae to keep those vices in check -like their r#les against a#lter"/ Machiavelli- The 'rince 1e was banishe an it writing to the c#rrent prince !rites there are onl" principalities an rep#blics (ives a lot of power to the people -m#st keep them happ"/ 7oes not speak of the ieals+ he is more realistic -like more/ 1e is intereste in the well being of the societ"+ m#st preserve an make s#re ever"one is happ" There is a challenge in novelt"o 8o# m#st act properl" in the beginning or people will revolt an get back at "o# 7oes allow #se of the vices if in the en it oes make the state bettero 8o# m#st #se cr#elt" when neccessar" 1ighlights the teeter totter nat#re of power an how #nstable it iso !hat gives "o# power one a" ma" take it awa" the ne.t a" 9)0TU6Ao Things that are o#t of "o#r control *ecoming prince+ having a war thrown at "o#+ etc is ever"thing from events to happenings to circ#mstances+ what is come to "o#+ thrown at "o#+ what "o# are thrown into :&0TUo !hat "o# #se against fort#na Associate militar" valor Therefore masc#lineo :irt# is the range of virt#es re;#ire for a h#man to be s#ccessf#l 8o# nee to be intelligent an reasonable 9ort#na is like a river+ "o# have to control the water+ :irt# is controlling the water 9ort#na is an #nr#l" woman+ an "o# m#st control the woman The controlling is the :irt#o The #nr#l" woman reference shows the masc#linit" of the origin of virt# :&0TU4- goo ispositions of acting an feeling+ moeration+ wise+ pr#ence+o Machiavelli recommens the sing#lar version+ not the pl#ral versiono 8o# m#st preten to be #sing virt#es when "o# are act#all" #sing vices+ this wa" the people o not revoltMore vs Machiavelli The" are p#t together beca#se the" answer the same ;#estion Moreo provies an ieal cit" b#t it is abs#r an #nattainableo &t looks at the past -'lato an his ieal cit"/o An into the f#t#re- the crossing of the atlantico 'rovies a vision witho#t war Machiavellio *egins with a isclaimer This is not abo#t the perfect state 1e believes that it oes not e.ist 8o# m#st learn to eal with the real challenges associate with powero 4a"s that war is essential for a princeo 8o# cannot preict what life will thro#gh at "o#+ b#t "o# can learn how to act when it oes acto There is a lot of instabilit" an isorer 4tabilit" is what "o# want for "o#rself- "o# are the r#lerbeca#se "o# are the best thing for the people 1obbes- leviathan The people have a lot of power in their n#mbers !rites #ring the civil war #ring %nglan+ 150 "ears after the other two *elieves that h#mans are nat#rall" aggressive 9or b" art is create that great