Warpasauruses & Skewadactyls

Steve StuartKnow The Truth 777 Ministryhttp://www.knowthetruth777.org

In a Land Before Time

TOPICS

• How many kinds of dinosaurs were there?

• How big were dinosaurs?• How fast were dinosaurs?• What about the origin of

Dinosaurs?• When did dinosaurs live?• What happened to the

dinosaurs?

ARE DINOSAURS DIFFERENT?

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SOMETHING WRONG W/PICTURE?

WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE?

•What does evolution say about this?

•What does the Bible say about this?

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HOW MANY KINDS OF DINOSAURS

•How many kinds of dinosaurs were there?

•Some scientists believe over 700

IS THIS UNIQUE? IS THIS TRUE?

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DIFFERENT OR ART?

Okay – where should I put this horn?

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Kinds

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HOW HONKIN’ BIG WERE THEY?

BIG, EAT YOU, SCARY

HOW HONKIN’ BIG WERE THEY?

Compsognathus

Komp-sog-NAY-thus

Height: 24 inchesLength: 40 inchesWeight: 8 pounds

Height: 24 inchesLength: 40 inchesWeight: 8 pounds

MANY DINOSAURS WERE NOT BIG!

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• Stegosaurs About 15 mph• Tyrannosaurus About 20 mph• Olympic runner 29 mph• Triceratops About 20 mph• Horse 45 mph• Lion 45 mph• Cheetah 65 mph

Estimated speeds

HOW FAST WERE DINOSAURS

WHAT IS MY STRATEGY?

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I ONLY HAVE TO OUTRUN

YOU!

WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED?

It is a kind of animalIt could eat youIt is of average

speedThey star in lots of

movies.

NO EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION OR CREATION

HOW DO WE GET THE EVIDENCE?

Observe – what data can we see?

Examine the dataForm your ideas about the data (conclusions)

THINK LIKE A SCIENTIST!

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HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE?

•Ask Questions! Do your own research!– What evidence was

presented?– Does it match the

conclusion you were given?– Did it take into account all

the data?•Learn to identify assumptions.

BE A BEREAN!

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EVOLUTION’S DINOSAUR STORY

About 220 million years ago, the first dinosaurs evolved from mammal-like reptiles or amphibians, long before man evolved. These creatures ruled the earth for millions of years and then became extinct.

BE A BEREAN – EXAMINE THE EVIDENCE!

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Thecondonts

“Small lizards that ran on two legs and gave rise to the giant reptiles collectively known as the dinosaurs”

The Nature of Life, 1995

The Origin of Dinosaurs

The only evidence presented in any major biology textbook

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DINOSAUR EVIDENCE GIVEN

“…There are no known thecodonts which show positive indications leading towards pterosaurs or birds, nor toward one of the two dinosaurian orders”

A.S. Romer, Vertebrate Paleontology, p 140

The Origin of Dinosaurs

Evolutionists in the field no that there is no evidence!

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WHAT THE EXPERTS KNOW

EXAMINE THE EVIDENCE…ASK QUESTIONS!How could a small reptile

evolve into a large dinosaur?There is a large jump

between thecondonts and dinosaurs.

Shouldn’t there be thousands (millions) of intermediate fossils to support this claim?

Every major biology textbook was unable to document a single line of evidence to support the evolution claim for the origin of dinosaurs.

WAIT A MINUTE – NO FOSSILS?!

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FOSSIL EVIDENCE

“The known fossil record fails to document a single example of phyletic evolution accomplishing a major morphologic transition and hence offers no evidence that the gradualistic model can be valid.”

Steven Stanley (Johns Hopkins University Paleontologist), Macroevolution: Pattern and Process, 1979, p. 39.

ENGLISH TRANSLATION: See Next Slide

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6TH GRADE ENGLISH TRANSLATION

MODIFIED “The fossil record fails to show even one time where one animal changed into another one. It offers no proof that evolution happened.”!

Steven Stanley (Johns Hopkins University Paleontologist), Macroevolution: Pattern and Process, 1979, p. 39.

Ohh!...but why do they say it does?

The Amazing

Tricerakeet!

ARCHAEOPTERYX

Education and Textbooks

Biology, Miller and Levine, 2002, p. 907.

“To many paleontologists a bird is a dinosaur with feathers. That definition may sound odd, but it makes sense.”

Education and Textbooks

“Birds evolved from reptiles during the Jurassic period.”

Biology: Principles and Explorations, Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 2001, p. 268.

Archaeopteryx

Biology: Concepts and Connections, Campbell, Mitchell, and Reece, 2000, p. 390.

“Like modern birds, it had flight feathers, but otherwise it was more like some small bipedal dinosaurs of its era; for instance, like those dinosaurs, Archaeopteryx had teeth, wing claws, and a tail with many vertebrae.”

What Textbooks Don’t Include

“As for its ‘reptile’ characteristics, yes, it had claws on its wings, but so does the ostrich, and nobody considers it part reptile.

True, Archaeopteryx had teeth, but so did other fossil birds, and its teeth differed distinctly from those of reptiles…

As to Archaeopteryx’s tail, further inspection has shown it strongly resembles a swan’s.”

James Perloff, Tornado in a Junkyard, 1999, p. 18.

Birds Are Different From Reptiles

“Birds are so different from other creatures that there would have been hundreds of thousands of intermediate forms between birds and land animals if birds had evolved.”

Stuart Burgess (Ph.D. Engineering Design, Professor of Combustion Theory, extensive study in the area of design in nature), Hallmarks of Design,2002, p. 47.

Reptile to Bird

• Development of feathers• Reform of respiratory system• Reform of skeletal system – hollow bones• Reform of digestive system• Reform of nervous system• Construction of bills & beaks• Mastery of nest building• Acquisition of flight• Development of sound producing organ

ShaftBarb

BarbuleHook

The Feather

Primary Feathers

Secondary Feathers

Archaeopteryx

“Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth-bound, feathered dinosaur. But it’s not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of ‘paleobabble’ is going to change that.”

Alan Feduccia (World authority on birds), Science, “Archaeopteryx: Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms”, 1993

Birds Are Different From Reptiles

“This creates a new problem for those who insist that dinosaurs were ancestors of modern birds. How can a bird hand, for example, with digits two, three and four evolve from a dinosaur hand that has only digits one, two and three? That would be almost impossible.”

Alan Feduccia, (professor and former chair of biology at UNC), The Origin and Evolution of Birds, Yale University Press, 1999, p. 81.

Birds Are Different From Reptiles

“If one views a chicken skeleton and a dinosaur skeleton through binoculars they appear similar, but close and detailed examination reveals many differences. Theropod dinosaurs, for example, had curved, serrated teeth, but the earliest birds had straight, unserrated peg-like teeth. They also had a different method of tooth implantation and replacement.”

Dr. Alan Feduccia, “Scientist Says Ostrich Study Confirms Bird ‘Hands’ Unlike Those Of Dinosaurs”, EurekAlert, 14-Aug-2002.

Archaeopteryx

“And like other birds, both Archaeopteryx's maxilla (upper jaw) and mandible (lower jaw) moved, while in most reptiles, only the mandible moves. Archaeopteryx's brain had a large cerebellum and visual cortex – the same as that found in today’s flying birds.”

David Menton (Ph.D. Cellular Biology) and Carl Wieland (M.D.), “Bird Evolution Flies Out the Window,” Creation Ex Nihilo, 1994.

Reptile to Bird

“It is often speculated that birds evolved from reptiles. However, there are enormous conceptual differences between the two classes of creature…”

Stuart Burgess (Ph.D. Engineering Design, Professor of Combustion Theory, extensive study in the area of design in nature), Hallmarks of Design,2002, p. 47.

Dinosaur to Bird Evolution

• National Geographic Society and the feathered dinosaur “Archaeoraptor” October 15, 1999

Is there any real evidence that dinosaurs evolved into birds?

The story exposed

Bird Fraud

“Red-faced and downhearted, paleontologists are growing convinced that they have been snookered by a bit of fossil fakery from China. The ‘feathered dinosaur’ specimen that they recently unveiled to much fanfare apparently combines the tail of a dinosaur with the body of a bird.”

R. Monastersky, “All mixed up over birds and dinosaurs,” Science News, January 15, 2000

More Bird Mistakes

• 1993 – Mononkykus the “flightless bird” (cover of Time magazine)

Not a bird but a theropodNot a bird but a theropod

1996 – “Feathered Fossil Proves Some Dinosaurs Evolved into Birds” (Science) Sinosauropteryx prima The feathers turned out to be a array of fibersThe feathers turned out to be a array of fibers

1998 – China Protoarchaeopteryx robusta

Microraptor

Caudopteryx

Feathered Deceptions

Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs, 2002

Sinornithosaurus

Evidence, Faith & Deception

BIBLICAL STORY OF DINOSAURS

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. . . Genesis 1:25

THE FOSSIL RECORD SHOWS KINDS!

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BIBLICAL CLAIMS ABOUT DINOSAURS

• Dinosaurs were created after their kind

• Dinosaurs and people lived at the same time!

PROVE IT!

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What evidence is there that dinosaurs lived at the same time as people?

The word “Dinosaurs” wasn’t used until the 1800’s

WHAT WERE THEY CALLED BEFORE THAT?

EXAMINE: DINOSAURS & PEOPLE

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EXAMINE: DINOSAURS & PEOPLE

Many historical accounts of large dinosaur-like creatures

“Africa produces elephants, but it is India that produces the largest, as well as the dragon…”

Pliny, Natural History, 70 AD

THEY WERE CALLED DRAGONS!

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EXAMINE: DINOSAURS & PEOPLE

THAT IS OVER 150 YEARS OF REPORTING ABOUT DRAGONS AS REAL ANIMALS!

“The Phrygian History also states that dragons are born which reach ten paces in length…”

Aelian, De Natura Animalium, 220 AD

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People and Dinosaurs

WHAT ARE THESE?MR

People and Dinosaurs

Ancient drawings called petroglyphs

WHO DREW THEM? PEOPLE!MR

Carlisle Cathedral

Church in Northern England

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Carlisle Cathedral

Carpet

Tomb of Bishop Richard Bell

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Brass Engravings

Long Tail

Long Neck

Hmmm..ENGRAVINGS ARE NOT BONES!

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“On another point, whilst agreeing that the brass is important, I cannot condone the retelling of the tale of ‘dinosaurs’ on it! Indeed, the story does more to discredit the Cathedral and the Christian faith rather than promote them.”

“First, I must explain that the person you met was the Head Verger who is under strict instructions from the Chapter not to allow the removal of the carpet from the Bishop Bell Brass by anyone…”

People and Dinosaurs

DINOSAUR BONES ARE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, OOOOOOOOOLD!

DINOSAUR BONES ARE FOSSILS? RIGHT?

People and Dinosaurs

North Shore of Alaska: many thousands of dinosaur bones lack any significant degree of mineralization. The bones look and feel like old cow bones.

BONES ARE NOT OLD!MR

New Dinosaur Find

A mummified dinosaur carcass found in Montana (duck-billed hadrosaur)

Soft tissues covering 90% of the fossil include muscle, nail material, a beak, and skin were preserved.

Artist Drawing

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“His fossilized skeleton is covered in soft tissue -skin, scales, muscle, foot pads - and even his last meal is in his stomach.”

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news

“Leonardo's stomach contents are so well-preserved that researchers can tell what he had for his last supper; a salad of ferns, conifers, and magnolias. The stomach also contained the pollen of more than 40 different plants.”

MUMMIFIED DINOSAUR

MUMMIES ARE NOT FOSSILS – SOFT TISSUES DISENTEGRATE TO DUST OVER A SHORT TIME!

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Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. . . .

He moveth his tail like a cedar…

His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

He is the chief of the ways of God.

Job 40:15-18

DINOSAURS AND THE BIBLE

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Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.

Job 41:19

DINOSAURS AND THE BIBLE

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Bombardier Beetle

Chemical storage

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DRAGONS/DINOSAURS

• FOSSILS SHOW KINDS – BIBLE

• DINOSAURS & PEOPLE - BIBLE– Historical accounts of

dragons– Pictures on canyon walls– Unfossilized dinosaur bones– Mummified dinosaurs

• BEHEMOTH & LEVIATHIN – BIBLE

EVIDENCE: BIBLE OR EVOLUTION?

• Dinosaurs starved to death • They died from overeating • They were poisoned • They became blind from cataracts and could not

reproduce • Mammals ate their eggs • Other causes include-volcanic dust, poisonous

gases, comets, sunspots, meteorites, mass suicide, constipation, parasites, shrinking brain (and greater stupidity), slipped discs, changes in the composition of air, …

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DINOSAURS?

WHAT ABOUT A METEOR?

The Popular Theory

65 million years ago a meteor destroyed all the dinosaurs

Meteor Impact Theory• Layer of iridium located at

the northern end of Mexico's Yucatan peninsula (Chicxulub)

• Buried a kilometer below ground and dated at 65 million years old

Evaluating The Theory: 2 EvidencesEvaluating The Theory: 2 Evidences

Alleged meteor impact

Evaluating the Evidence

Why did the alleged impact kill off

the dinosaurs while many other

forms of life remained healthy?

Some of the least mobile creatures

(tortoises, snakes, crocodiles) and

the most sensitive to climatic change

(birds, fish) are still with us today.

Plants also survived the cataclysm

in great abundance.

Crocodiles lived and Dinos didn’t?Crocodiles lived and Dinos didn’t?

It is not certain that Chicxulub is an actual impact site. The iridium concentration in the region could have resulted from volcanic processes.

Alternate Scientific TheoryAlternate Scientific Theory

Evaluating the Evidence

Question

If a meteor did not cause the dinosaurs to become extinct 65 million years ago and dinosaurs cannot evolve into birds, what happened to them?

Did they all die in the Genesis Flood?

And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

Genesis 6:20

Dinosaurs were on the Ark and they came off the Ark

WHAT ABOUT NOAH’S ARK?

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People and Dinosaurs

What did people do with dinosaurs?

People ate the dinosaurs

THE END