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JOAn B. KROC InsTITuTE FOR PEACE & JusTICE
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JOAn B. KROC DIsTInguIshED LECTuRE sERIEs
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DIsTInguIshED LECTuRERs
al 15, 2003 r edgGl sy, nl cl chhThe Role o the Church in U.S. Foreign Policy
My 8, 2003 Hl cldpd, nl ply rh iThe New Nuclear Danger
o 15, 2003 rhd j. Gldj h cl c sh a
The Role o International Law in Preventing Deadly Conlict
jy 14, 2004 amd Dld k. sgu.s. Dm s
Conlict, Gender and Human Rights: Lessons Learned rom the Field
al 14, 2004 Gl ahy c. Zud s M c (d)
From the Battleield to the Negotiating Table: Preventing Deadly Conlict
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Concept, Context and Process in Peacemaking:The Palestinian-Israeli Experience
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Women, War and Peace: Mobilizing or Security and Justice in the 21st Century
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The Responsibility to Protect: Prescription or a Global Public Domain
Mh 31, 2005 My rFm pd ild d u.n. Hghcmm Hm rgh Human Rights and Ethical Globalization
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Mh 25, 2009 amd j el
Fm u.n. sl evy h sy-Gl D d ud-sy-Gl Hm aArmed Conlict: The Cost to Civilians
o 8, 2009 pl Fmc-d p i Hlh dud n Dy sl evy HDevelopment: Creating Sustainable Justice
nvm 18, 2009 Wllm uy c-d d s Fllw h Hvdng p From the Boardroom to the Border: Negotiating or Sustainable Agreements
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Aid That Works: A 21st Century Vision or U.S. Foreign Assistance
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From Peace Talks to Gender Justice
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Fd – il p rh i Breaking the Cycle o Violent Conlict
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Achieving Justice or Victims o Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity
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Children and Armed Conlict: The International Response
o 27, 2005 H exlly kml MFm pd h rl bw Perspectives into the Conlict in the Democratic Republico the Congo and Contemporary Peacebuilding Eorts
jy 27, 2006 amd chh r. Hllu.s. Dm sU.S. Policy in East Asia and the Paciic
Mh 9, 2006 Wllm F. shlzexv D – amy il usaTainted Legacy: 9/11 and the Ruin o Human Rights
sm 7, 2006 sh ed2003 nl p LIran Awakening: Human Rights, Women and Islam
o 18, 2006 M Mm, alm Vv péz, i sgWomen, War and Peace: The Politics o Peacebuilding
al 12, 2007 th Hl Gh evpd – il c GPreventing Mass Atrocities: Making “Never Again”a Reality
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The Dynamics o Human Rights and the Environment
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A d emgy rl cd h u.n. War, Peace and Climate Change: A Billion Lives in the Balance
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Integrating Security, Development and Human Rights
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BIOgRAPhY OF RADhIKA COOMARAsWAMY
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RF: What is the difference between your work on the ground in Sri Lanka and
what you face looking at Uganda or other countries that are much less de veloped?
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RF: Does the dependence on foreign aid tie into that at all?
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RF: I see the International Criminal Court getting much more active. I read
about it independently investigating violations by leaders, but it seems to be
more adept and able to hit the tribal leaders as opposed to national leaders,
especially tribal leaders who lose. Do you have any comment on that?
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InTERVIEW WITh RADhIKA COOMARAsWAMY
The ollowing is an edited transcript o an interview with Radhika
Coomaraswamy, conducted on May 9, 2011, by Robert Fellmeth,
proessor o public interest law and executive director o the Children’s
Advocacy Institute at the University o San Diego (USD), and Necla Tschirgi,
proessor o practice in human security and peacebuilding at the
Joan B. Kroc School o Peace Studies at USD.
NT: You have done a lot of great human rights work in Sri Lanka. What was it
like moving to the international stage?
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RF: In these citizens’ uprisings in the Middle East, are you finding likely abuses
involving children, for example, by the Qaddafi forces and those opposing him?
What do you do about that?
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RF: Apart from remonstration and letters and citing the various conventions, what
can you threaten those who are doing it to lead them to a different path?
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RF: Would it be better to use ju-jitsu? My mother always taught me that whenever
you want to do something, seriously consider doing the opposite. Would that
technique work if the United Nations, instead of saying, “I’m mad at you, I’m
cutting you off,” would do the opposite?
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NT: How are you trying to bring children in armed conflict issues in alignment
with some of the other normative developments and institutional de velopments
at the United Nations, including the Responsibility to Protect [R2P], the ICC,
gender violence, etc.? What are the mechanisms through which these different
agendas are supporting each other?
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h m h m dlg d d, whh lly
h vl d h l q w.
NT: How do the children and women’s agendas come together, especially on
gender-based violence?
rc: th w mhm h w wh h sy cl m d
h xl vl . W w vy lly gh h’
l xl vl g hld. W yg w gh h
mg x wll m h md xl vl.
NT: How does that work in practice?
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w wm g d d vy h ud n mg
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hld dv h wm dv wh dd wh
wll g vw, d h hy y g mm l m.
RF: I’m wondering about the problem of religious extremism. What kind
of approach can you take if you have a religion that has a group of fanatics
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w wh h l-wg wd M d h wh lvd
l l. b w lwy h h w gd hg, d h y
ld’ mvm l y g l y d.
“...even i there’s tyranny and you resist tyranny,
you are also judged by the nature o your resistance.”
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RF: That’s interesting because one of my early learnings that shocked me was when
I learned that during the American Revolution the revolutionaries did a lot of evil
things: They strung up Tories, they lynched people, they did all sorts of things no
one ever talks about in American history books. Not that the other side didn’t too,
but to them the end justified the means. You have Gandhi, you have Martin Luther
King, saying the “how” is going to be peaceful. We’re not going to hurt anybody.
We’re going to rely essentially on the conscience of the people who have power.
What do you do when the people with power have no conscience?
rc: My h l wh hv w ly vl g y.
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h vl. i’ g mh h wh
g y h lw.
NT: I teach a course here on human security and I’ve noticed in many of the U.N.
documents the words “human security” have disappeared. Is there a reason for
that? Is there still commitment to a human security agenda or has there been some
sort of determination that it is much easier not to create new language?
rc: i h h w mvm hm y, d i h h w
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lvl. th d hg ll vy mh lv wh h u.n. ym,
’ lld hm y.
NT: How are your relations with the Peacebuilding Commission, especially the
Peacebuilding Support Office within the commission?
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w wh hm whl h ld h.
NT: Are you doing anything about Libya?
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w g d, qly.
RF: What four or five things can the United States do to help what the United
Nations is trying to do with regard to the child issue?
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gl hw h h hgh m hld wh
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mh hgh md l.
NT: What are some of the tools you wish you had in your toolbox that you
currently don’t have?
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g h mm vy d vl. W mgd g
h Drc, g w h , h sy
cl ll l.
NT: There are also a lot of mixed results on the sanctions regimes.
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sTuDEnT MEETIng
The ollowing is an edited transcript o a meeting held with graduate
students rom the University o San Diego and high school students rom the
WorldLink Program at the Joan B. Kroc Institute or Peace & Justice,
held on May 9, 2011.
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Q: I’ve been researching the trafficking of girls into the European Union and
child soldiers in Liberia. The new U.N. DDR [Disarmament, Demobilization
and Reintegration] standards propose that DDR strategies should coordinate
with transitional justice mechanisms. To what extent should that apply to
children in terms of rehabilitative redress, and how would such a scheme be
implemented?
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discussed this semester was the Mexican case and the role of gangs. How do you
treat children caught in the crime-conflict nexus?
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workshops. What are some of the negotiat ion techniques you use?
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Q: Being a woman from the sub-continent, does your personal background
serve as a n asset or a lia bility, or does it not have any impact on your work?
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conflict societies where there are child soldiers or children affected by the
conflict, does the United Nations have a definitive policy on what kind of
rehabilitation programs there should be for trauma therapy, or do you leave
that to the country to decide?
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Q: One of our students gave a very interesting presentation a couple of weeks
ago on children born in Iraq after the American invasion and occupation, and
the very devastating health impacts of the American intervention. Are you
covering those issues?
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the United Nations or NGOs. What qualities and skill s do you look for in people
you work with in the field?
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cannot operate in a world without any standards.”
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“As Graça Machel did write in her report, children are a
uniying actor and they, more than any other group, remind us
o our common ethical concerns.”
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DA: Will the new April 2011 anti-trafficking E.U. directive be helpful? How
many member states support your work? Is there a ny support from the Palermo
Protocol for your activities?
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DA: What possible actions are taken against groups who are not responding to
the sanctions or naming and shaming?
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QuEsTIOns AnD AnsWERs
The audience submitted questions that were read by Deputy Director Dee Aker.
DA: Olara Otunnu stood here, toward the end of his time as the first in your
position. What’s different now than it mig ht have been for him?
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DA: The United States has not signed the Convention on the Rights of the
Child. Has there been any change in the last 10 years in the response of the
United States?
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DA: Are there other countries on the list who are not responding?
rc: th m h dd dlly h lg .
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DA: What’s the legal age for a child according to your office?
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DA: Can you give us some more information or elaborate on how the United
Nations has played a role in controlling the LRA in Uganda?
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with the LRA, d h h yg, This man must be in jail; there’s
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DA: Can you provide an update on the efforts to rehabilitate the 3,000 former
Maoist child soldiers back into society in Nepal? Have these efforts been successful?
rc: ply l. Wh w hg h l w mh h h
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“One has to realize that the real lie orce o all our mandates
really comes rom civil society in the country areas. They’re the
ones that irst direct us to what is taking place.”
DA: Can you speak to the nature of civil society consultations done with your
office, and the nature of civil society analysis and advocacy? What role does it play?
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m , ., ’ lly vl y hld’ gh g
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mm h mh y.
DA: How large a staf f do you have to conduct the important work you do? What
is their background and training?
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DA: Can the Security Council name and shame or include on a list a group
whose conflict has not officially been recognized – for example, the recruitment
of children in Mexico by the drug cartels?
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w hy .
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mmd – d w g lly vv Hd
y d h m d w . thy’ hy ll
g dl. thy hv dd y yg hy d’ w g
hm, hy w g h m. s hy hvg m
lm wh hm. W yg hw w dl wh h .
DA: Do you have any information on Burundi?
rc: i w h h m l wg ly, l
x mh g w hd dld ll h . W g ll l
h hld hgh uniceF. sh a m x hld h
g, h sh a w h hd h
bd. thy hv ld. o h hg h i w d h
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l bd gg w, w whg h
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DA: Has the council investigated the recruitment of children in the United
States’ military?
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RELATED REsOuRCEs
Machel, Graça. Impact o Armed Conlict on Children . u.n. chld’ Fd.
1996. www..g/g
Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Children and
Armed Conflict. www..g/hld/l/glh/dx.hml
Otunnu, Olara. “svg chld m h sg W.” L
j b. k i p & j. al 11, 2006. www.dg.d/
d/dm//olmmyw.d
Paris Principles. 2007. www..g/hld/l/_dm/
l/ppl_en.d
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1612 on Children and Armed
Conflict. 2005. www..g/D//_l05.hm
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