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Quran proves Jesus Died

The Bible says that Jesus died for our Sins«. Isaiah 53:5 But He (Christ) was pierced for our

transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace

was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.,« The Bible tells us Christ was put to

death for our mistakes and for our sins. By this sacrifice of pure and sinless blood we are

made righteous with a Holy and Perfect God.

Matthew 27:35 And when they had crucified Him, they divided up His garments among

themselves, casting lots;««. Again the Bible confirms that Jesus was put to Death.

John 19:18 There they crucified Him, and with Him two other men, one on either side, and

Jesus in between;««. Again here and in numerous other passages, the Bible confirms that

Jesus was put to Death.

The Qur¶an confirms that Jesus was killed by God«.

SuraAali-Imran 3:55 (Pickthall) (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am

gathering Thee and causing Thee to ascend unto Me««. The Arabic word used here is muta-

waffiika which means "cause you to die" So the Qur'an confirms that God put Christ to

Death and then raised him with his body to himself. Jesus body was not buried to decay and

become dust, but instead was raised straight into God¶s presence in heaven.

SuraMaa-idah 5:117(Pickthall) I spake unto them «.and when thou tookestme, ««.The

Arabic word used here is tawaffay-tanii which means "to kill someone or cause someone to

die" So here again we see that the Qur'an confirms that God put Jesus Christ to Death and

then took him up (with his body) to heaven. This Faultless (sinless) one was put to death.

He did not go to anywhere else like other prophets have, to "Barzakh" which is a temporary

place, until the day of resurrection, No! Jesus went straight into God¶s presence in Heaven,with His body.

The Bible tells us that God Himself is a Guardian over it««.

Matthew 5:18 "For truly I (God) say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the

smallest letter or stroke shall pass away«« Here and in other passages, God tells us that

nothing in the Bible will change or pass away, no! not even the smallest dot or punctuation

mark. No human being can change God¶s word if God is protecting it. There is no better

protector than God.

The Qur¶an confirms that God is a Guardian over the Bible««.

SuraMaaidah 5:48 (Pickthall) And unto thee We revealed the Scripture with truth,

confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher (Guardian) over it«.SuraHaa-Miim-Al-Sijdah 41:42 Falsehood (or changes) cannot come at it from before it or

behind it. (It is) a revelation from the Wise, the Owner of Praise (God)«..

Sura Al-Hijr 15:9 Lo! We even We, reveal the reminder and Lo! We verily (truly) are its

Guardian«« Here and in other passages, God tells us He alone, not man, is the Guardian of

all Holy Scripture. Since God is the Guardian no one can alter or change any words of the

Bible, which is His Holy Scripture that He gave to Moses and all the other prophets.



Hard to argue with agreement?

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Quran confirms Torah and Gospel but attacks Talmud and Trini

byThebigmo » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:34 am

Does the Koran say Torah and Gospel corrupted?

Some people have said that the Koran says that the Torah and Gospel are corrupted and its no longer a

book of guidance. They say "Islam" says so. Some Muslims even have said that anyone who still follows

these scriptures is no longer a believer but a disbeliever and will go to hell. Indeed some Sunni/Shia

scholars claim that any follower of islam who does not believe that the Jews and Christians are infidels is

an infidel himself! However when asked to provide their evidence from the Koran they are mute and

confused. This is because what they say and the Koran are complete opposites. Lets look at the Koran

and what it say:

Let the People of the Gospel judge by what God hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the

light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel. (Surah 5, Maida, verse 47)

But why do they come to thee for decision, when they have (their own) Torah before them?- Therein is

the (plain) command of God; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) people

of faith. (Surah 5, Maida, verse 43)

Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? But what is the reward for

those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life? - And on the Day of Judgment they shall

be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For God is not unmindful of what ye do. (Surah 2, Baqara,

verse 85)



Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the

Gospel and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord...." (Surah 5, Al Ma'idah, verse 68)

If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from

their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on

the right course: But many of them follow a course that is evil. (Surah 5, Maida, verse 69)

Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth. (Surah 7, A'raf,

verse 159)

2.41 And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to

reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone.

2.89 And when there comes to them a Book from God, confirming what is with them,- although from of

old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they

(should) have recognized, they refuse to believe in it but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith.

2.91 When it is said to them, Believe in what God Hath sent down, they say, We believe in what was

sent down to us: yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: Why

then have ye slain the prophets of Allah in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?

Here the Koran clearly states the Koran confirms what is with them, meaning the scriptures of the Jews

and Christians. Clearly this is not stating scriptures of the past but what they have possession of at the

time the Koran was revealed. These scriptures are identical in every way to the scriptures these religions

still have today known as the Old Testament and New Testament or the Bible as some call it. As I did my

research about this subject some time ago I was looking for where this evidence of the tampering andcorruption of the Bible is mentioned in the Koran as claimed by the Sunni/Shia sectarianist. How can

God say the previous scriptures are corrupted then order them to follow them? It even attacks those

who refuse to follow it and says its a path to salvation and mentions them in an equal footing as the

Koran.



To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in

safety: so judge between them by what God hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging

from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way.

If God had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He

hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to God; it is He that will show you

the truth of the matters in which ye dispute; Surah 5 Verse 48

It even uses the previous scripture as evidence for the validity of the Koran:

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those

who read the Scripture (that) was before thee... (Surah 10, Jonah, verse 94)

Muslims who follow Sunni/Shia Islam say these verses are concerning the originals. But these scriptures

have not changed since the days of the prophet. In fact they are the way they are today long before the

prophet. So what scriptures was the Koran talking about other than the current Bible? They then point

to this verse as evidence of the corruption and tampering of the previous scriptures(ie the Bible).

2.79 Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from God," to

traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they

make thereby.

This is then used to support the tampering of the scriptures. However upon close examination, I see

they failed to look at the verse before it and after it.

2.78 And there are among them il literates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires,

and they do nothing but conjecture.

So the Koran is saying those poeple were making things up but never said the Book itself has been

tampered since those people never knew the book and the follow up verses brings light to a religious

scripture followed by the Judaic faith thats not the Old Testament.



2.80 And they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days:" Say: "Have ye taken a

promise from God, for He never breaks His promise? or is it that ye say of God what ye do not know?"

This is not in the Torah but its refering to the Talmud. The supposed "oral" traditions the Rabbis say was

passed down to them. The Talmud are the collections of the traditions of the so called Pharisees talked

about in the Gospel who were fierce opponents of Jesus the Messiah.

The Rabbinic tradition arose from the Pharisaic tradition after the destruction of the Second Temple in

AD 70. In general, it moved away from traditional Judaism's emphasis on an earthly future for Israel

toward the concept of reward in the life to come.[4] Gehinom (Gehenna), according to rabbinic

literature, is a place or state where the wicked are temporarily punished after death. Gehenna is

sometimes translated as "hell", but the Christian view of hell differs from the Jewish view of Gehenna.

Most sinners are said to suffer in Gehenna no longer than twelve months.Those who are too wicked toreach paradise are sometimes said to be punished forever.[5] Other accounts reject the idea that a

merciful God would punish anyone forever,[6] in which case those too wicked for purification are

destroyed (see annihilationism)

Gehenna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also in the Talmud:

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

The Koran condemned this:

3.75. Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with a hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it

back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless thou constantly stoodest

demanding, because, they say, "there is no call on us (to keep faith) with these ignorant (Pagans)." but

they tell a lie against God, and (well) they know it.

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and

governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino

edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam

the hairdresser," had love with many men.



4.156 Quran

That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;

The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in

fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the

Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark

chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord's pointed condemnation of the

Mishnah.

Also:

The Schindler's List Quote

The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a restricts the duty to save life to saving

only Jewish lives.

The book on Hebrew censorship, written by Jews themselves (Hesronot Ha-shas), notes that some

Talmud texts use the universalist phrase:

"Whoever destroys the life of a single human being...it is as if he had destroyed an entire world; and

whoever preserves the life of a single human being ...it is as if he had preserved an entire world."

However, Hesronot Ha-shas points out that these are not the authentic words of the original Talmud.

In other words, the preceding universalist rendering is not the authentic text of the Talmud and thus, for

example, this universalist version which Steven Spielberg in his famous movie, Schindler's List attributed

to the Talmud (and which became the motto of the movie on posters and in advertisements), is a hoax

and constitutes propaganda intended to give a humanistic gloss to a Talmud which is, in its essence,

racist and chauvinist hate literature.



In the authentic, original Talmud text it states that "whoever preserves a single soul of Israel, it is as if he

had preserved an entire world" (emphasis supplied). The authentic Talmud text sanctions only the

saving of Jewish lives.

The Koran tells us about this and condemns this:

5.32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be

for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any

one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to

them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in

the land

"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other

Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his

execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even

mentioned.

"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite seriously--such as the notorious

ToldotYeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very

name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...

The koran tells us:

4.157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of God.;- but

they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ

therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety theykilled him not:-

The Talmud then say:



Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be

punished there for all generations.

Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the

world to come.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

The koran responds by:

And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain)

desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a

doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. The

Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught

(To stand) upon." Yet they study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not;

but God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment. 2.111-113

Non-Jewish property belongs to the Jew who uses it first - (BabbaBathra 54b)

If two Jews have deceived a Non-Jew, they have to split the profit - (Choschen Ham 183,7)

Every Jew is allowed to use lies and perjury to bring a Non-Jew to ruin - (Babha Kama 113a)

The Jew is allowed to practice usury on the Non-Jew - (Talmud IV/2/70b)

The koran then says:

4.160. For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) good and wholesome

which had been lawful for them;- in that they hindered many from God's Way;-



4.161. That they took usury, though they were forbidden; and that they devoured men's substance

wrongfully;- we have prepared for those among them who reject faith a grievous punishment.

Note: The Torah forbids the Jews from the devouring of Usury ("neshek").See the Old Testament Ex. 22:

25;

Le. 25: 36-37; De. 23:19-20; Ne. 5: 7/10; Ps. 15: 5; Pr. 28:8

The Koran then says:

4.162. But those among them who are well-grounded in knowledge, and the believers, believe in what

hath been revealed to thee and what was revealed before thee: And (especially) those who establishregular prayer and practise regular charity and believe in God and in the Last Day: To them shall We

soon give a great reward.

Truth About the Talmud: Judaism's Holiest Book

As for the Gospel

Jesus is reported to have said he that hath seen me hath seen the Father and I am in the Father, and

the Father in me (John 14:9-10); but in the same passage he shortly goes on to add: At that day ye

shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. (John 14:20) Again, while Jesus does

proclaim I and my Father are one (John 10:30), he also prays for his followers, that they all may be

one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us. (John 17:21) Whatever

the nature of the oneness Jesus is claiming exists between God and himself, it is apparently something

that is supposed to hold between God and all Christians in which case it can hardly be the relation of

numerical identity.

Likewise, in the two New Testament passages where Jesus is said to have regarded himself as equal

with God John 5:18 and Philippians 2:6 the Greek word translated equal is isos, which means on

the same level or of the same rank, never identical. The claim that Jesus was God did not become

Christian orthodoxy until the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE. The orthodox reading of these passages seems



Clearly this has no basis in the Gospel, the Koran reiterates this:

People of the Book, do not go beyond the bounds in your religion, and say nought as to God but the

Truth. The messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only the messenger of God, and his word that he committed

to Mary, and a spirit originating from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not 'Three'.

Refrain, better is for you. God is only one God. Glory be to him-that He should have a son! To Him

belongs all that is in the Heavens and in the Earth; God suffices for a guardian. (4.171)

"And they say, The All-Merciful has taken unto Himself a son. You have indeed advanced something

hideous. As if the skies are about to burst, the earth to split asunder and its mountain to fall down in the

utter ruin for that they have attributed to the All-merciful a son; and behaves not the All-merciful to

take a son. None there in the heavens and earth but comes to the All-Merciful as a servant" (Maryam

19:88-93)

There is nothing, absolutely nothing about corruption or tampering of previous scriptures. The Koran

states that the Talmud is NOT the word of God and says the Christian priests are NOT following the

Gospel but indeed they hide and conceal and take things out of context and following vain desires:

"They (i.e. Jews and Christians) changed words from their contexts and forgot a good part of the

message given to them, and you will continue to find them -except a few among them- bent on new

deceits" (5:13)

There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (as they read) you would think

it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, 'That is from God,' but it is not from

God: It is they who tell a lie against God and (well) they know it! (3,78)

The Koran came to Confirm and not abrogate the previous scriptures as the Sunni/Shia sects claim. And

like Jesus it condemned the Talmudic traditions. The Islamic sects created the exact type of oral

traditions that they believe "explains" the Koran and indeed abrogates it. These oral traditions were

compiled by Muslim jurist two centuries after Muhammad and these traditions dominate the teachings

of these sects.



The Koran is here to support and confirm the previous scriptures. A reminder to many not to abandon

the scriptures and follow men. The scriptures must be read as a WHOLE and not in isolation.

Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? But what is the reward for

those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life? - And on the Day of Judgment they shall

be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For God is not unmindful of what ye do. ( 2,85)

"Say: We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham,

and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that

which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto

Him we have surrendered. " 2:136

"The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do)

believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make

no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy

forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. " 2:285

{4:152}

"And those who believe in Allah and His messengers and do not make a distinction between any of

them-- Allah will grant them their rewards; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

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The Quaran confirms todays bible:

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http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/bible_authentic2.htm

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