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VILLAGE OF RIDGEWOODPLANNING BOARD

MONDAY, JANUARY 29, 2015COMMENCING AT 7:40 P.M.

................................... IN THE MATTER OF : TRANSCRIPT OFPUBLIC HEARING - : PROCEEDINGSLAND USE PLAN ELEMENT OF THE :MASTER PLAN AH-2 , B-3-R, C-R and :C ZONE DISTRICTS : ...................................

B E F O R E:

VILLAGE OF RIDGEWOOD PLANNING BOARDTHERE BEING PRESENT:

CHARLES NALBANTIAN, CHAIRMAN

RICHARD JOEL, VICE CHAIRMAN

PAUL ARONSOHN, MAYOR

SUSAN KNUDSEN, COUNCILWOMAN

NANCY BIGOS, MEMBER

WENDY DOCKRAY, MEMBER

DAVID THURSTON, MEMBER

MICHELE PETERS, MEMBER

ISABELLA ALTANO, MEMBER

KHIDIR ABDALLA, MEMBER

LAURA A. CARUCCI, C.S.R., R.P.R., L.L.C.CERTIFIED COURT REPORTERS

P.O. BOX 505SADDLE BROOK, NJ 07663

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[email protected]

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CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Okay. I've 07:40PM 1

prepared a statement. 07:40PM 2

Again, thank you all for coming. 07:40PM 3

Let me first express my appreciation to 07:40PM 4

the Board of Ed, CBR, and the village, for helping to 07:40PM 5

make the best out of a potentially bad parking 07:41PM 6

situation tonight, and for helping to communicate 07:41PM 7

Dr. Fishbein's arrangement with the First 07:41PM 8

Presbyterian Church to allow us to use one of their 07:41PM 9

parking lots. 07:41PM 10

We came close to cancelling or 07:41PM 11

rescheduling tonight's meeting, but after conferring 07:41PM 12

with CBR and others, a joint decision was made not to 07:41PM 13

reschedule, and here we are. Perhaps it's also a 07:41PM 14

sign that Ridgewood will win tonight's game against 07:41PM 15

St. Anthony's. Many great efforts came together 07:41PM 16

today, and thank you all. 07:41PM 17

Tonight is the first of two nights 07:41PM 18

scheduled for public comment on the matter of the 07:41PM 19

board's consideration to amend the Master Plan 07:41PM 20

regarding multi-family housing. 07:41PM 21

February 3rd is the next meeting, so 07:41PM 22

please note your calendars. 07:41PM 23

We have conducted numerous public 07:41PM 24

meetings and heard expert testimony from various 07:41PM 25

LAURA A. CARUCCI, C.S.R., R.P.R., L.L.C.

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parties over almost 14 months. 07:41PM 1

You might remember that at the start of 07:41PM 2

these hearings in December 2013, we began the process 07:41PM 3

by first hearing general comments from the public. 07:42PM 4

This was a very helpful first step in the process. 07:42PM 5

Then following that, all interested 07:42PM 6

parties to this matter have been entitled and 07:42PM 7

permitted, without exception, to appear individually 07:42PM 8

or with the assistance of legal counsel to present 07:42PM 9

information or for the purpose of asking questions of 07:42PM 10

various fact or expert witnesses who have given 07:42PM 11

testimony since December of 2013. 07:42PM 12

So tonight we begin public comment 07:42PM 13

again. The board has established certain rules of 07:42PM 14

procedure that will be followed, which I will review 07:42PM 15

now and again once more at the beginning of the 07:42PM 16

February 3rd meeting. 07:42PM 17

Upon entering, individuals who wish to 07:42PM 18

speak tonight were asked to sign up for public 07:42PM 19

comment. This list will be used for the order of 07:42PM 20

public comment speaking. If someone intends to make 07:42PM 21

a statement to the board during the public comment 07:42PM 22

period, they must first sign in. When we begin, 07:42PM 23

speakers will be called in the order of the sign-up 07:42PM 24

list, and I'll use that sheet for that sequence. 07:42PM 25


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Please note your number when you sign 07:43PM 1

up, so that you know where you are in the sequence. 07:43PM 2

When your name is called, please move 07:43PM 3

immediately to the microphone, slowly say and spell 07:43PM 4

your name and street address for the record, so that 07:43PM 5

Kim, the transcriber, is able to receive that 07:43PM 6

information. 07:43PM 7

You will also be sworn in at that time, 07:43PM 8

since all comments must be made under oath, and Kim 07:43PM 9

will also do the swearing-in. 07:43PM 10

If you change your mind about speaking 07:43PM 11

when your name is called, just simply say "pass," and 07:43PM 12

then we'll move on to the next speaker. 07:43PM 13

Please note, however, that if you pass, 07:43PM 14

your time may not be donated as extra time to another 07:43PM 15

speaker.07:43PM 16

Each speaker will be given three 07:43PM 17

minutes to speak. The three minutes will begin after 07:43PM 18

the administration of the oath. 07:43PM 19

Michael will be keeping time, will 07:43PM 20

raise his hand when the three minutes are up. 07:43PM 21

You may read a written statement into 07:43PM 22

the record so long as it does not exceed the allotted 07:43PM 23

three minutes. 07:44PM 24

At the conclusion of your time, please 07:44PM 25


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promptly finish your statement and return to your 07:44PM 1

seat. At that point, I'll call the next individual's 07:44PM 2

name in the sequence. We will proceed in this manner 07:44PM 3

until we get through the list. 07:44PM 4

If we don't finish tonight, we'll 07:44PM 5

continue with those people on the list remaining on 07:44PM 6

the 3rd. 07:44PM 7

We will hear each speaker who wishes to 07:44PM 8

make comment only once, in order to give everyone a 07:44PM 9

chance. Three minutes, by the way, is a customary 07:44PM 10

amount of time for comment, and it's consistent with 07:44PM 11

the Village Council hearing. 07:44PM 12

Since CBR is considered to be 07:44PM 13

represented by able counsel, those of you who are 07:44PM 14

named as CBR may proceed with your three minutes, 07:44PM 15

however, this will be when the CBR attorney, Ira 07:44PM 16

Weiner, calls CBR and at that appropriate time. 07:44PM 17

No documents have been submitted by any 07:44PM 18

member of the public since the prior meeting. If 07:44PM 19

anything is submitted tonight, we will need to review 07:45PM 20

it by all counsel and hear any objections before it's 07:45PM 21

presented. 07:45PM 22

Please note that petitions cannot be 07:45PM 23

accepted by the board, nor any written statements by 07:45PM 24

parties not present. 07:45PM 25


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This is important. 07:45PM 1

This is also a rule established by New 07:45PM 2

Jersey case law that all parties seeking to put 07:45PM 3

information before the board must be available for 07:45PM 4

cross examination. 07:45PM 5

It is improper for a board to examine 07:45PM 6

or discuss a petition and consideration of such a 07:45PM 7

document, and it is certainly outside the scope of 07:45PM 8

the board's decision-making process.07:45PM 9

As has been the board's practice, we 07:45PM 10

kindly ask that no one applaud, taunt, boo or 07:45PM 11

interrupt the speaker at the podium. It is his or 07:45PM 12

her only time to speak. 07:45PM 13

We also ask that everyone respect the 07:45PM 14

time limits and promptly end their statements when we 07:45PM 15

indicate that time is up. We will allow all persons 07:45PM 16

to be heard. 07:46PM 17

Please be aware that the board has the 07:46PM 18

right to limit repetitive and irrelevant statements, 07:46PM 19

and we anticipate not leaving anyone short, 07:46PM 20

especially if these procedures are followed. 07:46PM 21

Now is also a good time for me to point 07:46PM 22

out one easily misunderstood procedural aspect of 07:46PM 23

these hearings. 07:46PM 24

Since the Planning Board public hearing 07:46PM 25


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process has procedures which are akin to those used 07:46PM 1

in a court of law, interested party attorneys or the 07:46PM 2

Planning Board attorney may interject with an 07:46PM 3

objection assertion at any time, including periods of 07:46PM 4

public comment. 07:46PM 5

Please know that such objection 07:46PM 6

assertions should not be perceived by the public to 07:46PM 7

be disrespectful or rude, but rather a procedure for 07:46PM 8

allowing attorneys to promptly note objections to the 07:46PM 9

record. 07:46PM 10

Having said all that, I think we're 07:46PM 11

ready to begin the process, and I have the list. If 07:46PM 12

there aren't any questions, we're going to proceed. 07:46PM 13

The first person who is on the list is 07:46PM 14

Mr. Jeff Kahn. 07:47PM 15

Please state your name, spell your name 07:47PM 16

and provide your address.07:47PM 17

MR. KAHN: My name is Jeff Kahn, 07:47PM 18

J-E-F-F K-A-H-N. I live at 10 Maltbie Avenue in 07:47PM 19

Ridgewood. 07:47PM 20

JEFF KAHN, having been duly sworn, testifies as 07:47PM 21

follows: 07:47PM 22

MR. KAHN: I wanted to go first for a 07:47PM 23

specific reason. I've actually spent a lot of time 07:47PM 24

at these meetings. I've listened to what's gone on. 07:47PM 25


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And I actually grew up my entire life in Oradell, 07:47PM 1

which is a town right outside of Ridgewood, and it 07:47PM 2

was a goal of mine to move into Ridgewood and grow a 07:47PM 3

family, specifically because Ridgewood was one of the 07:48PM 4

best communities around in North Bergen. 07:48PM 5

I have to say that I am a proponent for 07:48PM 6

some sort of change. And my life as a business is in 07:48PM 7

mediation, and I think when you mediate things, you 07:48PM 8

have two sides of the story, you have one side where 07:48PM 9

it's against change, one side is for change, and I 07:48PM 10

believe that should be somewhere in the middle. 07:48PM 11

So what I did is that I actually sat 07:48PM 12

down with the developers of The Dayton and The 07:48PM 13

Enclave, and I am for those two developments. I 07:48PM 14

don't think that a little bit of change is bad for 07:48PM 15

Ridgewood. I think Ridgewood could use support, 07:48PM 16

especially during Monday through Thursday. You know, 07:48PM 17

I have an eight-year-old that's at Ridge School. 07:48PM 18

Next year, my five-year-old boy is going to be in 07:49PM 19

kindergarten. And I think it's important that the 07:49PM 20

town grows and prospers. 07:49PM 21

I look back at what other towns are 07:49PM 22

offering their residents, and I think it's time that 07:49PM 23

we look at expanding Ridgewood in an economical way 07:49PM 24

that actually is beneficial for everybody. And I 07:49PM 25


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think, from my personal experience, talking to these 07:49PM 1

developers, is that they're open to compromising to 07:49PM 2

get something done, and I think just saying no 07:49PM 3

constantly is not going to help this town. 07:49PM 4

So thank you. 07:49PM 5

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you, 07:49PM 6

Mr. Kahn. I much appreciate it. 07:49PM 7

MS. PETERS: Mr. Kahn, can I ask you 07:49PM 8

why you are just stating you're in favor of The 07:49PM 9

Dayton and The Enclave and not Chestnut Ridge? 07:49PM 10

MR. KAHN: Just because those are the 07:50PM 11

only people I spoke to, to be quite honest. 07:50PM 12

MS. PETERS: Okay.07:50PM 13

MR. KAHN: You know, I'm not a 07:50PM 14

proponent for everything. Those were the two people 07:50PM 15

that came to me, when I reached out. I reached out 07:50PM 16

to a lot of people. They were very open to speaking 07:50PM 17

to me. That's why. 07:50PM 18

MS. PETERS: Thank you.07:50PM 19

MR. KAHN: You're welcome. 07:50PM 20


Michele. 07:50PM 22

Okay. Next name I have is Mr. Frank 07:50PM 23

Schott. 07:50PM 24

MR. SCHOTT: My name is Francis A. 07:50PM 25


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Schott, S-C-H-O-T-T, 133 Highland Avenue in 07:51PM 1

Ridgewood.07:51PM 2

FRANCIS A. SCHOTT, having been duly sworn, testifies 07:51PM 3

as follows: 07:51PM 4

MR. SCHOTT: Ladies and gentlemen of 07:51PM 5

the Planning Board, almost exactly a year ago, at the 07:51PM 6

second public meeting on the petition for high-rise 07:51PM 7

apartments, the Mayor and the Planning Board Chairman 07:51PM 8

agreed to give the public a chance to express their 07:51PM 9

opinions at that early stage. 07:51PM 10

The result was a 34/0 trashing of the 07:51PM 11

applications. 07:51PM 12

Now, what has happened in the year that 07:51PM 13

has gone by? 07:51PM 14

Basically not much. 07:51PM 15

First and most important, the 07:51PM 16

applicants are still threatening to destroy the 07:51PM 17

small-town atmosphere of the village cherished by 07:51PM 18

most residents by spot zoning for multi-story 07:51PM 19

apartment buildings that would be a dominant factor 07:51PM 20

in the architecture of downtown Ridgewood. 07:51PM 21

Second, the precedent the applicants 07:51PM 22

are seeking to set is precisely that, an undeniable 07:51PM 23

precedent that can be exploited for a petition by any 07:52PM 24

new applicant that can assemble a few acres anywhere 07:52PM 25


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in the village. 07:52PM 1

Third, there's going to be major 07:52PM 2

strains on Ridgewood's infrastructure, if hundreds of 07:52PM 3

apartments and well over 1,000 additional residents 07:52PM 4

are permitted. 07:52PM 5

Ridgewood has the largest school 07:52PM 6

district and the highest percentage of residents in 07:52PM 7

public schools of any north Bergen community. 07:52PM 8

The director of parks and recreation in 07:52PM 9

the village will tell you that other recreation 07:52PM 10

facilities are constantly overbooked and stressed. 07:52PM 11

Additional residents, and not only 07:52PM 12

youngsters, will intensify the strain. 07:52PM 13

The village has justifiably acquired 07:52PM 14

about 20 acres of largely unoccupied land over the 07:52PM 15

past decade, yet remains deficient in open space by 07:52PM 16

state and federal standards. 07:52PM 17

I said not much has happened in this 07:52PM 18

past year of hearings and controversy. What has 07:52PM 19

happened, however, is that the arguments, including 07:52PM 20

the participants, have been exhausted. Time for a 07:52PM 21

compromise. 07:53PM 22

But going from 12 permitted units per 07:53PM 23

acre to 50 is not a compromise, it is a surrender. 07:53PM 24

Let's make a generous offer of settling 07:53PM 25


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for double of permitted density of 24 units per acre. 07:53PM 1

Such an offer would give the owners of the land a 07:53PM 2

fair chance for a return on capital and would give 07:53PM 3

the village a chance to impose appropriate parking 07:53PM 4

spaces, fire lanes, and green areas in garden style 07:53PM 5

developments. 07:53PM 6

Thank you very much. 07:53PM 7

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you, Frank. 07:53PM 8

Next name on the list is AJ Cipriano. 07:54PM 9

MR. CIPRIANO: Thank you for having me. 07:54PM 10

Anthony J. Cipriano, C-I-P-R-I-A-N-O, 07:54PM 11

260 Godwin Avenue, Ridgewood.07:54PM 12

ANTHONY J. CIPRIANO, having been duly sworn, 07:54PM 13

testifies as follows: 07:54PM 14

MR. CIPRIANO: Can I just say that this 07:54PM 15

is a town hero, Frank Schott, and he gave us 07:54PM 16

Citizen's Park. He was one of the drivers behind 07:54PM 17

Citizen's Park. Thank you. 07:54PM 18

Okay. I'll try to be quick. 07:54PM 19

Ladies and gentlemen, Planning Board, 07:54PM 20

the major glaring problem that presents itself is 07:54PM 21

clearly a lack of space: Space for parking, space 07:54PM 22

for recreation. 07:54PM 23

On our planner's sites, 07:55PM 24

external/internal pressures for dense housing. 07:55PM 25


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I look around and all I see are signs 07:55PM 1

to save Ridgewood. 07:55PM 2

Other than the developers' promotional 07:55PM 3

billboards, where is the pressure for walking 07:55PM 4

distance dense housing? 07:55PM 5

When I look at the expressions in the 07:55PM 6

papers, not only our local but nationally, I'm 07:55PM 7

looking at free market forces. 07:55PM 8

And I'd like to quote an article in the 07:55PM 9

Wall Street Journal, page 82, 01-22-15, title of the 07:55PM 10

article, "Many Millenials yearn for Suburban Homes."07:55PM 11

"The majority of them will still want 07:55PM 12

to buy the house out there in the suburbs."07:55PM 13

I'm quoting in the article. 07:55PM 14

"A survey released by the National 07:55PM 15

Association of Home Builders found 66 percent 07:55PM 16

want to live in the suburbs, 24 percent want 07:55PM 17

to live in rural areas" -- that's 07:56PM 18

84 percent -- "10 percent want to live in the 07:56PM 19

city center. 07:56PM 20

"One of the main reasons people want to 07:56PM 21

relocate from the city center is they want to 07:56PM 22

live in more space than they have now. 07:56PM 23

"The preferences of the millenials are 07:56PM 24

important to nearly every U.S. industry 07:56PM 25


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because of their size, 70 to 80 million. 07:56PM 1

"According to David Berson, chief 07:56PM 2

economist with Nationwide Insurance Company, 07:56PM 3

'The preference for the suburbs suggests that 07:56PM 4

future demand will be in the form of single 07:56PM 5

family homes rather than condominiums more 07:56PM 6

prevalent in cities.'" 07:56PM 7

So, to make a long story short, my 07:57PM 8

concern is that when we go and look at the dense 07:57PM 9

housing, this has to be done carefully to prevent 07:57PM 10

conditions of overcrowding that plaque major cities. 07:57PM 11

I lived in New Brunswick. I moved to 07:57PM 12


I do have an observation, a helpful 07:57PM 14

observation, I hope. 07:57PM 15

We really should take a hard look at 07:57PM 16

the Ken Smith property. It's a natural for a three 07:57PM 17

story parking facility, one ground, one above, one 07:57PM 18

below, on the perimeter of both the train station and 07:57PM 19

the CBD. 07:57PM 20

The village should look to a creative 07:57PM 21

way to evenly swap the limited Hudson parking lot, 07:57PM 22

which is really a CBD, okay, for the Ken Smith 07:57PM 23

property. Unlike Hudson, Franklin is wide, provides 07:57PM 24

a wide ingress, so you already have a wide ingress.07:57PM 25


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Okay. I am concluded. Thank you. 07:58PM 1


Mr. Cipriano. 07:58PM 3

Philip Affuso. 07:58PM 4

Please state, spell your name, provide 07:58PM 5

your address.07:58PM 6

MR. AFFUSO: Philip Affuso, 07:58PM 7

A-F-F-U-S-O, residing at 255 Lotte Road, Ridgewood.07:58PM 8

PHILIP AFFUSO, having been duly sworn, testifies as 07:58PM 9

follows: 07:58PM 10

MR. AFFUSO: I'm here this evening to 07:58PM 11

pass some comments on The Dayton development. And, 07:58PM 12

after speaking to someone who has been very involved 07:58PM 13

with this process over the last so many months to 07:58PM 14

years, I have come to the conclusion that many people 07:58PM 15

in the town really want this development to go 07:59PM 16

forward, and apparently one of the stumbling blocks 07:59PM 17

is the density of the development. 07:59PM 18

So far, that problem has not been 07:59PM 19

overcome. It seems like we're at an impasse, and if 07:59PM 20

the development doesn't go through, basically no one 07:59PM 21

is going to benefit. The town won't benefit, the 07:59PM 22

community won't, nor will the owner of the property 07:59PM 23

or the developer. So it is in our best interests to 07:59PM 24

see this development go forward. 07:59PM 25


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If it does go forward, Ridgewood will 07:59PM 1

fulfill a need for rental housing for people such as 07:59PM 2

myself, long-term residents who want to stay in 07:59PM 3


Many long-term residents have left, 07:59PM 5

because they don't want to own a house any longer, 07:59PM 6

they want to rent an apartment, and presently there's 07:59PM 7

very limited opportunity for that in Ridgewood. 08:00PM 8

So this development would fulfill that 08:00PM 9

need. 08:00PM 10

Furthermore, the town desperately needs 08:00PM 11

commercial rateables. This town has very few 08:00PM 12

commercial rateables. And the tax burden in this 08:00PM 13

town, as we all know, is quite heavy, and it's on the 08:00PM 14

backs of homeowners. 08:00PM 15

So this type of development will give 08:00PM 16

us additional commercial rateables, which will enable 08:00PM 17

Ridgewood to remain affordable for middle class 08:00PM 18

families. 08:00PM 19

Over the past several years, as the 08:00PM 20

site has laid fallow, Ridgewood has lost hundreds of 08:00PM 21

thousands of dollars in rateables. 08:00PM 22

And, finally, this development would 08:00PM 23

improve the aesthetic appeal of the neighborhood. 08:00PM 24

Basically the way I see it is that a 08:00PM 25


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compromise should be sought, negotiations should be 08:01PM 1

done between the village and the developers. And we 08:01PM 2

all have to realize that no one is going to get 08:01PM 3

everything they want. The developers are not going 08:01PM 4

to get everything they want, and unfortunately the 08:01PM 5

people of Ridgewood probably won't get everything 08:01PM 6

they want, but as the development goes forward, we 08:01PM 7

are all going to benefit. If it doesn't go forward, 08:01PM 8

none of us will benefit. 08:01PM 9

Finally, I'd like to say the only way 08:01PM 10

these negotiations are going to succeed, if someone 08:01PM 11

in the public sector in this town takes a leadership 08:01PM 12

role and starts the ball rolling. 08:01PM 13

I don't know who that someone is, 08:01PM 14

perhaps it's on this Planning Board, but someone has 08:01PM 15

to step forward and lead this process. 08:01PM 16

Thank you. 08:01PM 17

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you very 08:01PM 18

much, Mr. Affuso.08:01PM 19

MS. PETERS: Mr. Affuso, the same 08:01PM 20

question I asked Mr. Kahn, you only spoke as to The 08:02PM 21

Dayton. Is there any reason you're not naming The 08:02PM 22

Enclave or the other development? 08:02PM 23

MR. AFFUSO: This is the only 08:02PM 24

development I'm familiar with. 08:02PM 25


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MS. PETERS: Okay. Thank you. 08:02PM 1

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Next speaker is 08:02PM 2

Geraldine Mulhern. 08:02PM 3

Please state and spell your name, 08:02PM 4

provide your address.08:02PM 5

MS. MULHERN: Hi. It's Geraldine 08:02PM 6

Mulhern, G-E-R-A-L-D-I-N-E M-U-L-H-E-R-N. And I 08:02PM 7

currently reside at 255 Burnside Place.08:02PM 8

GERALDINE MULHERN, having been duly sworn, testifies 08:02PM 9

as follows:08:02PM 10

MS. MULHERN: Good evening, members of 08:02PM 11

the Planning Board and fellow residents of Ridgewood. 08:02PM 12

I come to you as a fourth generation 08:02PM 13

Ridgewoodian. My grandparents lived here since the 08:02PM 14

'50s. I was born at the Valley Hospital in 1955. 08:03PM 15

And I attended Mount Carmel, Ridge School. I was the 08:03PM 16

first graduating class of Orchard, GW and Ridgewood 08:03PM 17

High School. I lived in all but one school district 08:03PM 18

in my tour of duty, so I'm pretty familiar with 08:03PM 19

Clinton Street and all the other issues that I heard 08:03PM 20

over the years. 08:03PM 21

I have now hit the wall, as my parents 08:03PM 22

did after they raised their six children. I no 08:03PM 23

longer want to be a homeowner. I don't want to 08:03PM 24

maintain a home. I'm a single person. I'm tired of 08:03PM 25


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shoveling and being responsible for things. 08:03PM 1

Having lived in the Oak Street 08:03PM 2

Apartments at one point in time and the Mayflower 08:03PM 3

Apartments, which were lovely, I don't want to live 08:03PM 4

without the luxury, primarily, of on-site in-house 08:03PM 5

laundry. And that is an issue that I'm thinking, 08:03PM 6

gee, how many apartments in Ridgewood really offer 08:03PM 7

that? 08:03PM 8

So I am a proponent of the 08:03PM 9

developments. It would be nice to have more foot 08:04PM 10

traffic in Ridgewood. You know, I used to shop at 08:04PM 11

Sealfon's and I was a gift wrapper at McHugh, so I 08:04PM 12

don't see the foot traffic that I used to see. I 08:04PM 13

don't see what a development, how it would hurt the 08:04PM 14

town. I would hope that people would see that more 08:04PM 15

people in town would be beneficial, and I'm just 08:04PM 16

hopeful that we all can find a solution to this.08:04PM 17



Ms. Mulhern. 08:04PM 20

No. 6, next person is David Slomin. 08:04PM 21

MR. SLOMIN: David Slomin, S-L-O-M-I-N, 08:04PM 22

36 Heights Road. 08:04PM 23

DAVID SLOMIN, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:04PM 24

follows:08:04PM 25


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MR. SLOMIN: I just want to take time 08:04PM 1

to thank everybody up here and everybody at CBR for 08:04PM 2

all your tireless, hard work, but I can't fit that in 08:05PM 3

three minutes, so... 08:05PM 4

There's been a lot of talk, especially 08:05PM 5

in Blais' testimony over the last couple of months, 08:05PM 6

about opportunity here in Ridgewood. And we do have 08:05PM 7

an opportunity right now, but it's not an all or 08:05PM 8

nothing proposition, and it doesn't have to be as 08:05PM 9

massive or dense as is currently requested. You're 08:05PM 10

not required to approve such high density, a 08:05PM 11

quadrupling of our current zoning and more than a 08:05PM 12

doubling of the average density throughout the town. 08:05PM 13

Remember, this request came from 08:05PM 14

developers who are seeking first to maximize profit, 08:05PM 15

not necessarily planning goals. Yet because they 08:05PM 16

threaten that this number, 50 units or 40, something 08:05PM 17

above 40 is what they need to build, we're faced with 08:05PM 18

a change that poses so many risks to Ridgewood, to 08:05PM 19

our schools, our fields, our parking, our services, 08:05PM 20

and the small-town look and feel of this village that 08:05PM 21

we love. 08:05PM 22

Now, I've been in the apartment 08:05PM 23

business for almost 20 years. Virtually all my 08:05PM 24

properties, except the ones in cities, and Ridgewood 08:05PM 25


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is not a city, have densities under 25 units per 08:06PM 1

acre, and we do very well, we're very profitable. We 08:06PM 2

definitely survive at 25 units per acre. 08:06PM 3

So I'm a fan of apartments, and I know 08:06PM 4

something great will get built on these lots and in 08:06PM 5

this zone, because Ridgewood is so valuable a 08:06PM 6

community, but setting zoning at, you know, 20 to 08:06PM 7

25 units an acre, you'll still get great 08:06PM 8

developments, and that's a doubling of what we have 08:06PM 9

now. And that's because apartments are the hottest 08:06PM 10

commodity in real estate today. Nobody's building 08:06PM 11

office and retail the way they used to, the money's 08:06PM 12

in apartments, but it's not up to you, the Planning 08:06PM 13

Board or Ridgewood to maximize developers' profits 08:06PM 14

and owners' property values, it's up to you and all 08:06PM 15

of us to maximize Ridgewood. 08:06PM 16

Developers will always ask for more, 08:06PM 17

often too much, knowing they'll get pushed back. 08:06PM 18

It's time for a bit of pushback. 08:06PM 19

Nobody here that I know of has ever 08:06PM 20

said no. Nobody I worked with on CBR for the last 08:06PM 21

two years says no. We just feel that less is really 08:07PM 22

more for this town. 08:07PM 23

There's some Planning Board members 08:07PM 24

have asked for comps that they can use to get an idea 08:07PM 25


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of what these buildings in Ridgewood will look like. 08:07PM 1

Fair Lawn Promenade, the new 08:07PM 2

development on Route 208, near Nabisco, it's a great 08:07PM 3

example of the size and scope of these new luxury 08:07PM 4

developments. The large building in the back is 104 08:07PM 5

luxury units and is a perfect comp. It's nice 08:07PM 6

looking, it's well built. It's built by one of the 08:07PM 7

same developers that wants to build in Ridgewood, but 08:07PM 8

it's huge. 08:07PM 9

Now, imagine, 3, 4 or 5 of those 08:07PM 10

buildings in downtown Ridgewood. It will completely 08:07PM 11

overwhelm this small-town feel that we have. We can 08:07PM 12

do apartments and we should, but it's massive, 08:07PM 13

imagine 3 or 4, go drive past it. 08:07PM 14

Now, I've been to most of these 08:08PM 15

meetings. I've heard many good reasons to amend the 08:08PM 16

Master Plan to amend development, and I've heard not 08:08PM 17

one good, compelling reason why the density, number 08:08PM 18

of units, and the scale of these developments has to 08:08PM 19

be too high. I believe even Blais himself 08:08PM 20

acknowledged he doesn't have a specific reason why 50 08:08PM 21

is the number. 08:08PM 22

Joe Burgis, the planner for some of the 08:08PM 23

developers here, is interestingly also the village 08:08PM 24

planner for Upper Saddle River. Here in Ridgewood, 08:08PM 25


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he is advocating the extensive high density changes 08:08PM 1

his client is seeking, yet in Upper Saddle River, 08:08PM 2

where Mack-Cali has a large multi-family and 08:08PM 3

commercial proposal, he is surprisingly warning the 08:08PM 4

village to proceed with caution. 08:08PM 5

In a letter to the Upper Saddle River 08:08PM 6

Town Square, he wrote:08:08PM 7

"The responsibility to plan 08:08PM 8

necessitates a long range view of what is in 08:08PM 9

the best interests of the community and its 08:09PM 10

residents. It must involve a comprehensive 08:09PM 11

integrated assessment to ensure that the 08:09PM 12

decisions made do not adversely impact other 08:09PM 13

planning goals of the community." 08:09PM 14

To Joe I say, thank you for that. I 08:09PM 15

hope that in going forward that Joe is true to those 08:09PM 16

words in his work here in Ridgewood. 08:09PM 17

My final paragraph. 08:09PM 18

We need to take Joe's Upper Saddle 08:09PM 19

River advice, not his Ridgewood advocacy, and employ 08:09PM 20

serious standards, caution, and wisdom here. These 08:09PM 21

massive developments don't fit in our constrained 08:09PM 22

downtown. I've heard enough concern and questions 08:09PM 23

from the board at all these meetings to know that 08:09PM 24

there are many similar concerns amongst you. So 08:09PM 25


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please don't do this. 08:09PM 1

Do something fitting, positive, 08:09PM 2

properly studied, and cautious for Ridgewood. That 08:09PM 3

right decision is definitely out there, and I believe 08:09PM 4

falls somewhere in the 20 to 25 units per acre, but 08:09PM 5

it's not this current amendment. 08:09PM 6


CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you. 08:09PM 8

Please hold the applause. 08:09PM 9

You need to follow the rules. Thank 08:10PM 10

you. 08:10PM 11

Jeannette Wiener. 08:10PM 12

MS. WIENER: Jeannette Wiener, 174 08:10PM 13

Union Street, Apt. 2C, W-I-E-N-E-R, 08:10PM 14

J-E-A-N-N-E-T-T-E. 08:10PM 15

JEANETTE WIENER, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:10PM 16

follows: 08:10PM 17

MS. WIENER: I'm a 28-year resident of 08:10PM 18

Ridgewood, and for a long, long time I lived on 08:10PM 19

Brookside Avenue and paid huge taxes; raked and 08:10PM 20

shoveled an acre and a half of property. 08:10PM 21

I'm very, very happy to be in the 08:10PM 22

Schoolhouse Apartments now. Along with many people 08:10PM 23

in my building, we walk everywhere. Many of them eat 08:10PM 24

every single night in the restaurants in Ridgewood. 08:10PM 25


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I feel that we really provide so much 08:10PM 1

more by having this ability to walk all places. In 08:10PM 2

fact, I walked here tonight. So I think the foot 08:11PM 3

traffic will be increased, but not driving traffic. 08:11PM 4

I also support these plans, maybe not 08:11PM 5

the density they're saying. And I agree with many of 08:11PM 6

these people that say someone has to take the lead 08:11PM 7

and get this project going, and maybe not the density 08:11PM 8

that the developers want, but bring it back to a more 08:11PM 9

reasonable number. 08:11PM 10

I also want to say that I'm a member of 08:11PM 11

the Women Gardeners of Ridgewood, like several other 08:11PM 12

women here. The next time you see me, I'll be one of 08:11PM 13

the old ladies working at Van Ness Park, cleaning up 08:11PM 14

the leaves and also planting new things. So I want 08:11PM 15

to stay in Ridgewood, please make it somewhere where 08:11PM 16

we can stay. 08:11PM 17


much, Ms. Weiner. 08:11PM 19

No. 9, it looks like Frank Mason. 08:11PM 20

MR. MASON: I'll pass. Go ahead. 08:12PM 21

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: You'll pass, 08:12PM 22

okay. 08:12PM 23

Next number is 10, Mr. Rurik Halaby. 08:12PM 24

MR. HALABY: Mr. Chairman, three 08:12PM 25


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minutes is three minutes. No clapping is no 08:12PM 1

clapping. 08:12PM 2

RURIK HALABY, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:12PM 3

follows: 08:12PM 4

MR. HALABY: Rurik Halaby, R-U-R-I-K 08:12PM 5

H-A-L-A-B-Y, 374 Evergreen Place, here in Ridgewood, 08:12PM 6

44-year resident. 08:12PM 7

I am here to urge you to vote for the 08:13PM 8

apartments. 08:13PM 9

The Ridgewood Central Business District 08:13PM 10

has been in decline for the past many, many years, 08:13PM 11

and the situation has not been helped with our 08:13PM 12

political system, which is adverse and unable to cope 08:13PM 13

with change. We look back, not forward. We live in 08:13PM 14

memories and not in dreams. 08:13PM 15

Adding apartments to the Central 08:13PM 16

Business District would help make up for the long 08:13PM 17

trend decline in effectiveness of the area. 08:13PM 18

A friend of mine, after walking around 08:13PM 19

Ridgewood, compared our downtown to a certain rundown 08:13PM 20

city in Upstate New York, I won't mention the name 08:13PM 21

because in case someone is from there, and I travel 08:13PM 22

around the Midwest, and I know what the rustbelt 08:13PM 23

looks like. It's beginning to look like the 08:13PM 24

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You can compare Ridgewood to two towns 08:13PM 1

of similar socioeconomic levels, Wellesley, 08:13PM 2

Massachusetts, and Bronxville, New York. Both have 08:14PM 3

downtowns that are far, far more vital than ours, 08:14PM 4

both towns are chockfull of apartment buildings, 08:14PM 5

very, very vital. 08:14PM 6

I have no ax to grind. The people 08:14PM 7

involved in applying for the permits, I only know 08:14PM 8

one, we do not socialize, but I know him well enough 08:14PM 9

to know that he will look after Ridgewood's interest 08:14PM 10

in the Brogan project. Frankly, he is far more 08:14PM 11

likely to do so than some of you with political 08:14PM 12

aspirations. I am sure other developers are just as 08:14PM 13

well-intentioned. 08:14PM 14

And the sadness is that this is the 08:14PM 15

48th meeting on the subject. You seem to do a great 08:14PM 16

job kicking the can down the road. Isn't it time you 08:14PM 17

decide?08:14PM 18

Again, I urge you to vote for the 08:14PM 19

apartments. Think Ridgewood 2025, not Ridgewood 08:14PM 20

1950. 08:14PM 21



Mr. Halaby. 08:15PM 24

I think the next name is Jim Vaughan. 08:15PM 25


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Is that correct? It's hard to read. 08:15PM 1

MR. VAUGHAN: Yes. 08:15PM 2

James Vaughan, V-A-U-G-H-A-N, 99 08:15PM 3

Kenmore in Glen Rock. 08:15PM 4

JAMES VAUGHAN, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:15PM 5

follows: 08:15PM 6

MR. VAUGHAN: My name is Jim Vaughan. 08:15PM 7

I lived in town for over 50 years, and my wife and I 08:15PM 8

lived in town for about 30, and we are an example of 08:15PM 9

the kind of empty-nester that these apartments are 08:15PM 10

designed to be built for that would attract. 08:15PM 11

We all know dozens of people like me 08:15PM 12

who have moved to townhouses and apartments 08:15PM 13

throughout northern New Jersey, each of whom would 08:15PM 14

have loved to have stayed in Ridgewood. There just 08:16PM 15

wasn't a good spot for them. 08:16PM 16

I'm actually completely unfamiliar with 08:16PM 17

the apartments that exist in Ridgewood now. I don't 08:16PM 18

think I've ever set foot in any of them in 50 years. 08:16PM 19

I just don't hear discussion on any of 08:16PM 20

them, other than the ones on Union Street, as being 08:16PM 21

the kind of place that's designed to attract the 08:16PM 22

Ridgewood empty-nester. So I think these apartments 08:16PM 23

would be filled with folks like my wife and I and our 08:16PM 24

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I also think there is another group 08:16PM 1

that would be attracted, and that is the high income 08:16PM 2

younger people. Our kids, they're getting married, 08:16PM 3

they're having kids, and they're staying in the city. 08:16PM 4

When we were making those kinds of 08:16PM 5

decisions, we immediately moved out of New York and 08:16PM 6

moved out of Hoboken. Kids nowadays are staying. 08:16PM 7

They will move out, and if we could attract some of 08:16PM 8

them to come to Ridgewood, that would be a wonderful 08:16PM 9

development. We want to get more than our share of 08:16PM 10

these high income folks who are very interested in 08:17PM 11

school systems. 08:17PM 12

I've seen some of the numbers on the 08:17PM 13

number of school-aged kids that these apartments are 08:17PM 14

going to attract, and they strike me as low. In 08:17PM 15

fact, I hope they are low. These developments would 08:17PM 16

be a wonderful benefit to keeping empty-nesters in 08:17PM 17

town. We would utilize downtown Ridgewood. I hope 08:17PM 18

that our kids and people like us 20 years ago might 08:17PM 19

stop in one of these luxury apartments on the way in 08:17PM 20

our transition to moving into Ridgewood. I think 08:17PM 21

they'd use the school system. 08:17PM 22

The luxury apartments in Ridgewood 08:17PM 23

would be a great development. It would be very 08:17PM 24

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I also think that there's only 08:17PM 1

200 units that are being proposed, 300, give or take 08:17PM 2

50 residents in each one of these. This is actually 08:17PM 3

not that big a deal. This is a small improvement. I 08:17PM 4

think it would be a good one. But if so, it will 08:18PM 5

only be a small adjustment, it will be a beneficial 08:18PM 6

adjustment, and I think it will be good for 08:18PM 7




much, Mr. Vaughan. 08:18PM 11

No. 12 is Tony Damiano.08:18PM 12

MR. DAMIANO: Tony Damiano, 274 S. 08:18PM 13

Broad Street, Ridgewood, D-A-M-I-A-N-O.08:18PM 14

TONY DAMIANO, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:18PM 15

follows: 08:18PM 16

MR. DAMIANO: Thank you for having me 08:18PM 17

tonight. I have taken a back seat on this issue, but 08:18PM 18

I have come forward tonight. 08:18PM 19

I have to say I am in favor of these 08:18PM 20

complexes. I have viewed two out of the three, The 08:18PM 21

Enclave and The Dayton. I think they are very 08:18PM 22

tastefully done. They are not high-rises, they are 08:18PM 23

not unattractive, as some of the apartment complexes 08:19PM 24

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Kind of I've been watching the town 08:19PM 1

over the past couple of years, although I've had my 08:19PM 2

business in town for 15, and it's very disheartening 08:19PM 3

to see good people move out of town, relocate, 08:19PM 4

because they don't have an option to downsize. 08:19PM 5

They're empty-nesters. They don't want to pay the 08:19PM 6

taxes any longer. Maybe they just don't want a 08:19PM 7

multimillion dollar home anymore, someone said 08:19PM 8

tonight the maintenance factor, and yet they love the 08:19PM 9

town. 08:19PM 10

We've lost people, good people, who sat 08:19PM 11

on various boards, committees, good volunteers, 08:19PM 12

because they couldn't find affordable living. 08:19PM 13

Someone said tonight the idea that it 08:19PM 14

might cut back, it will not impact traffic because 08:19PM 15

you're able to walk to work. I love that factor, not 08:19PM 16

only to walk to work, but to get a haircut, to shop, 08:19PM 17

to dine, etc. 08:19PM 18

I don't think it will impact the school 08:20PM 19

system. I don't think these are geared for the 08:20PM 20

young'un. Yes, you know, we will get some young 08:20PM 21

people, but they are not really geared for family 08:20PM 22

living. They are really geared for people who want 08:20PM 23

to downsize. And I would like to see 1 or 2 of them 08:20PM 24

be zoned for 55 and older, which would certainly help 08:20PM 25


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those people in my bracket. But I am in favor of 08:20PM 1

them, and I don't think they will impact the village 08:20PM 2

the way some people think they would. So I'd have to 08:20PM 3

say yes. As long as they're tastefully done and they 08:20PM 4

are moderately sized, I'd have to say I am for them.08:20PM 5



Mr. Damiano. 08:20PM 8

No. 13 is Umit Alptuna. I'm sorry if 08:20PM 9

I'm mispronouncing that. 08:20PM 10

MR. ALPTUNA: That's perfectly fine, 08:20PM 11

nobody can pronounce my name. 08:21PM 12

U-M-I-T, last name is A-L-P-T-U-N-A. I 08:21PM 13

live at 328 Fairmount Road. 08:21PM 14

UMIT ALPTUNA, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:21PM 15

follows: 08:21PM 16

MR. ALPTUNA: I'll keep this brief, 08:21PM 17

because many points made tonight on the speeches are 08:21PM 18

really outstanding. I would say presidential level 08:21PM 19

for some of them. 08:21PM 20

Here are my own structured thoughts. 08:21PM 21

First, I think we should evaluate how 08:21PM 22

we are presenting the argument. If we argue for no 08:21PM 23

change and the developers argue for 200 plus units, 08:21PM 24

we can argue to no end. But this is a zero sum 08:21PM 25


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argument, right? We can go back and forth forever. 08:21PM 1

And it's time to take action. 08:21PM 2

The best course of action, I believe, 08:21PM 3

is compromise. We should aim for no more than 20 to 08:21PM 4

25. We have to face a simple reality that the town 08:21PM 5

will continue to grow. It's just the way it is, as 08:22PM 6

more people come in, and we have an outstanding 08:22PM 7

school system. So I believe it's totally unrealistic 08:22PM 8

to totally dig in our heels, but we should think 08:22PM 9

about responsible growth. 08:22PM 10

We need to consider infrastructure, and 08:22PM 11

that infrastructure today is inadequate, whether it's 08:22PM 12

parking, which I live every day, or potentially the 08:22PM 13

school system. I believe by going to 200 plus units 08:22PM 14

will set this town on a really dangerous trajectory 08:22PM 15

and set a dangerous precedent, so I really call for 08:22PM 16

responsible growth.08:22PM 17

Thanks for hearing me out. 08:22PM 18

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you, Mr. 08:22PM 19

Alptuna. 08:22PM 20

No applause, please. Please do not 08:22PM 21

applause. 08:22PM 22


Jeff Goldberg. 08:22PM 24

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question for you. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but 08:22PM 1

it's so helpful to hear what persons are saying and 08:23PM 2

your thought process, because you're saying about 08:23PM 3

responsible growth and you give a number. So are you 08:23PM 4

asking -- I feel like, you know, Solomon with the 08:23PM 5

child, splitting the child. So who are we 08:23PM 6

determining who gets the units that should be built? 08:23PM 7

They're each looking to make as large a project as 08:23PM 8

possible on the units, but yet we're saying we need 08:23PM 9

responsible growth, we only want, I believe you 08:23PM 10

stated between 20 to 25 units per acre. And is that 08:23PM 11

your general thought as to everyone of these projects 08:23PM 12

that have been introduced? 08:23PM 13

MR. ALPTUNA: Here are my general 08:23PM 14

thoughts.08:23PM 15

What I really worry about, as I said, 08:23PM 16

is really setting a precedent. I don't know how to 08:23PM 17

explain it, but we should try to bookend it. I mean, 08:23PM 18

today the numbers are significantly lower, they're 08:23PM 19

double digits, it's low numbers. We're talking 08:23PM 20

about, you know, three digits. I mean, it's an 08:23PM 21

incredible growth. 08:23PM 22

And I know you mentioned in your 08:23PM 23

comments earlier that there were expert testimonies 08:24PM 24

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unprecedented for our town and it sets a dangerous 08:24PM 1

precedent. It could really change our town forever 08:24PM 2

in a very drastic and irreversible way. And, 08:24PM 3

frankly, I mean I'm sure that these matters will 08:24PM 4

certainly be put forth as the town continues to grow, 08:24PM 5

right, it can certainly be up to considerations at a 08:24PM 6

future date, but I think that there's a big 08:24PM 7

difference between 12, 15, now to 25, 50, and then 08:24PM 8

200 all of a sudden. I think the move is too 08:24PM 9

drastic.08:24PM 10

I'm certainly not an expert, but it 08:24PM 11

doesn't take a leap of imagination to go from the 08:24PM 12

current numbers to what is being proposed. 08:24PM 13

MS. PETERS: Thank you. 08:24PM 14

MAYOR ARONSOHN: Question. Can you 08:24PM 15

clarify what those numbers are? 08:24PM 16

MR. ALPTUNA: I did. 08:24PM 17

MAYOR ARONSOHN: You said 12 to 25?08:24PM 18

MR. ALPTUNA: The current proposal is 08:24PM 19

how many units of density, 200 plus, right? 08:24PM 20

MAYOR ARONSOHN: No. 08:24PM 21

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Density is the 20 08:24PM 22

to 25 that you were speaking about. 08:25PM 23

MR. ALPTUNA: Exactly.08:25PM 24

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know, like if I can make further comments, you know, 08:25PM 1

somebody made the point about, you know, the 08:25PM 2

commercial outcome. 08:25PM 3

I work on Wall Street, and the 08:25PM 4

commercial outcome is very important as the town 08:25PM 5

grows. And I think our town definitely needs more 08:25PM 6

interest from a business perspective, and there's 08:25PM 7

been a lot of businesses that have shut down, there's 08:25PM 8

a lot of turnover downtown, so I agree with many of 08:25PM 9

the comments that were made, but again I call for 08:25PM 10

responsible growth. You know, it's very difficult to 08:25PM 11

dig in our heels again, I think that we're not going 08:25PM 12

to be able to. You know, it's a very strong tide to 08:25PM 13

swim against to basically dig our heels, and 08:25PM 14

basically no one is going to argue against it, it's a 08:25PM 15

zero sum argument, so I'm really calling for a 08:25PM 16

responsible growth. 08:25PM 17


CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you.08:25PM 19

Mr. Goldberg. 08:25PM 20

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Please state and 08:26PM 21

spell your name.08:26PM 22

MR. GOLDBERG: Jeff Goldberg, it's 292 08:26PM 23

Mastin Place in Ridgewood. 08:26PM 24

JEFF GOLDBERG, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:26PM 25


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follows: 08:26PM 1

MR. GOLDBERG: Thank you. 08:26PM 2

Similar to many of the citizens here, I 08:26PM 3

have a concern that it's just too much growth too 08:26PM 4

soon. 08:26PM 5

A lot of the argument is that these 08:26PM 6

developments are going to be for empty-nesters, and 08:26PM 7

there's no proof to that. 08:26PM 8

And you're putting a lot of units 08:26PM 9

online all at once, and I doubt there's that much 08:26PM 10

pent-up demand for empty-nesters. 08:26PM 11

And all of a sudden this massive amount 08:26PM 12

of units are going to be filled, and what's going to 08:26PM 13

happen when it's not empty-nesters who are filling it 08:26PM 14

up? 08:26PM 15

You're going to get school-aged kids in 08:26PM 16

there, probably. 08:26PM 17

So my concern is it's way too big, way 08:26PM 18

too many units all at once, and think about it before 08:27PM 19

you go that big of a change in our town, and just go 08:27PM 20

conservative. And whether it's cutting back the 08:27PM 21

density or just doing one of these developments at a 08:27PM 22

time and seeing if these theories actually hold up, I 08:27PM 23

think that would be the more prudent way to go. 08:27PM 24



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Mr. Goldberg. 08:27PM 2

Tess Giuliani.08:27PM 3

MS. GIULIANI: Tess Giuliani, 08:27PM 4

G-I-U-L-I-A-N-I. 08:27PM 5

174 Union Street, Apt. 2D, Ridgewood.08:27PM 6

TESS GIULIANI, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:27PM 7

follows:08:27PM 8

MS. GIULIANI: Good evening. 08:27PM 9

I've been a resident of Ridgewood for 08:27PM 10

38 years. Thirty-six of these years, I lived in a 08:27PM 11

lovely house on Spring Avenue. I raised my son here. 08:28PM 12

He graduated from the high school in 1993, which 08:28PM 13

makes me an empty-nester for 22 years. 08:28PM 14

It is a privilege to live in Ridgewood. 08:28PM 15

And as a privilege, I believe we owe something to 08:28PM 16

Ridgewood and, therefore, I've been trying to be very 08:28PM 17

civic-minded all of those years. 08:28PM 18

I've been a PTA member, Fillacross 08:28PM 19

(phonetic) mom. I own a design business based in 08:28PM 20

Ridgewood. I've been a member of the Chamber of 08:28PM 21

Commerce, the Friends of the Library. I'm on the 08:28PM 22

board of the Historic Preservation Commission, and 08:28PM 23

the Ridgewood Guild Board. Like you folks up there, 08:28PM 24

I got the volunteer gene. 08:28PM 25


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I'm not speaking for any of these 08:28PM 1

organizations, I'm speaking for myself as a longtime 08:28PM 2

citizen of Ridgewood and an empty-nester who has 08:28PM 3

recently downsized to an apartment in Ridgewood. 08:28PM 4

Now, downsizing and where to move is a 08:28PM 5

hot conversation at the kitchen table with my friends 08:29PM 6

and it has been for a number of years. The thought 08:29PM 7

can be daunting. 08:29PM 8

Ridgewood Community School is now 08:29PM 9

offering a course "Downsizing for Dummies." So half 08:29PM 10

the problem is solved, we can go to the adult 08:29PM 11

education course, but the other question is where to 08:29PM 12

move? And that's a real problem. 08:29PM 13

So I'm going to tell you about my 08:29PM 14

journey. I'm the poster child among my friends for 08:29PM 15

navigating to the next chapter of life. 08:29PM 16

In 2001, eight years after my son 08:29PM 17

graduated, I decided to put my house on the market, 08:29PM 18

find a good apartment in town, and buy a small 08:29PM 19

vacation home. 08:29PM 20

My wish list was small: Downtown 08:29PM 21

location, two bedrooms, two baths, a washer and 08:29PM 22

dryer, central air conditioning, covered parking and 08:29PM 23

an elevator. Those are pretty basic requirements, 08:29PM 24

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After six months of looking, I found 08:29PM 1

only one complex in this town that has that. So I 08:30PM 2

put my name on the list. And when it came up, I went 08:30PM 3

to sign -- the same week that I signed for this, 9/11 08:30PM 4

happened. They were Wall Street people, those living 08:30PM 5

there, they didn't get transferred, I didn't move. I 08:30PM 6

went home, put an addition on my house, stayed 08:30PM 7

11 years and paid more taxes. 08:30PM 8

Two years ago, in 2012, I decided once 08:30PM 9

again it's time for an apartment. The prospects had 08:30PM 10

not changed. There was still only one good complex 08:30PM 11

in town, I live in that one, on Union Street. So I 08:30PM 12

moved. This time I didn't get a two bedroom, I got a 08:30PM 13

one bedroom, but I took it knowing that I'd be first 08:30PM 14

on the list to know when a two bedroom was coming up. 08:30PM 15

This brings me to the issue of density. 08:30PM 16

Clearly, this should be a concern, but, please know, 08:30PM 17

to my knowledge, and I did my homework twice, there 08:30PM 18

are only ten apartments in this town, not complexes, 08:30PM 19

ten apartments that have two bedroom, two bath, air 08:31PM 20

conditioning, washer and dryer, elevator, and covered 08:31PM 21

parking, and there's a very long list for this. 08:31PM 22

I was lucky to find an apartment, but I 08:31PM 23

watched many of my friends move to other towns 08:31PM 24

because they couldn't find them. Their move was 08:31PM 25


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Ridgewood's loss. They were great volunteers, and 08:31PM 1

their towns will now benefit for their generosity and 08:31PM 2

their shopping. 08:31PM 3

When these meetings began 18 months 08:31PM 4

ago, I had a very subjective view concerning building 08:31PM 5

downtown, I wanted upscale apartments for 08:31PM 6

empty-nesters like myself. 08:31PM 7

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Please wrap up.08:31PM 8

MS. GIULIANI: All right. So thank you 08:31PM 9

for all that you've done. 08:31PM 10

And I now have an objective view. I 08:31PM 11

believe we need it downtown. And I'd like to say 08:31PM 12

this from PBS news, I heard this this weekend, every 08:32PM 13

eight seconds a baby-boomer retires, that means 08:32PM 14

10,000 people every day, 4 million people a year. 08:32PM 15

With the advances in health care, we have the largest 08:32PM 16

population we'll ever see. We need a nice place to 08:32PM 17

live, work and volunteer. 08:32PM 18

We may have a difference of opinion 08:32PM 19

here, but we all have two things in common, we all 08:32PM 20

want to live in a nice place, and tomorrow we're all 08:32PM 21

going to be a little older. 08:32PM 22

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you, Ms. 08:32PM 23

Giuliani. 08:32PM 24

MS. DOCKRAY: Can I ask a question? 08:32PM 25


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CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Tess, we have a 08:32PM 1

question for you. 08:32PM 2

MS. DOCKRAY: I think you're the second 08:32PM 3

person, do you live in the Schoolhouse Apartments? 08:32PM 4

MS. GIULIANI: I do. 08:32PM 5

MS. DOCKRAY: Many of those units have 08:32PM 6

balconies and outside space, do they not? 08:32PM 7

MS. GIULIANI: Yes, they do. 08:32PM 8

MS. DOCKRAY: And there's some green 08:32PM 9

space around the buildings in the back. Am I 08:32PM 10

correct?08:32PM 11

MS. GIULIANI: There is a parking lot 08:32PM 12

in the back, and there is nice landscaping in the 08:32PM 13

front, and there is one patio about 30x40 on the 08:32PM 14

second floor and a small one on the third floor. 08:33PM 15

MS. DOCKRAY: And then some of the 08:33PM 16

units have balconies?08:33PM 17

MS. GIULIANI: They do have balconies. 08:33PM 18

MS. DOCKRAY: Okay. That's what I 08:33PM 19

thought. Thank you. 08:33PM 20

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Okay. 08:33PM 21

MS. DOCKRAY: Michele, she's got a 08:33PM 22

question. 08:33PM 23

MS. PETERS: Are balconies important to 08:33PM 24

people? Is outdoor space important to people in the 08:33PM 25


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apartments? 08:33PM 1

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Tess, there's a 08:33PM 2

follow-up question. 08:33PM 3

MS. PETERS: Are balconies important to 08:33PM 4

people? Is outdoor space important to people? 08:33PM 5

MS. GIULIANI: It's very interesting 08:33PM 6

about this outdoor space. 08:33PM 7

MS. PETERS: Yes or no? 08:33PM 8

MS. GIULIANI: I don't know. I don't 08:33PM 9

know, because I have to tell you -- 08:33PM 10

MS. PETERS: That's okay. Thank you 08:33PM 11

very much, because you didn't address it. 08:33PM 12

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: The question is: 08:33PM 13

Are they important to you?08:33PM 14

MS. GIULIANI: To be able to step out? 08:33PM 15

At least with a princess balcony. 08:33PM 16

MS. PETERS: Juliette balcony? 08:33PM 17

MS. GIULIANI: Right. That's right. 08:33PM 18

MS. PETERS: Got you. Thank you. 08:33PM 19

We'll discuss Juliette balconies later. 08:34PM 20

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: I think that No. 08:34PM 21

16 is Kay Griffith.08:34PM 22

Thank you for coming. Please state and 08:34PM 23

spell your name and provide your address.08:34PM 24

MS. GRIFFITH: Kay Griffith, 08:34PM 25


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G-R-I-F-F-I-T-H, K-A-Y, 159 S. Irving Street.08:34PM 1

KAY GRIFFITH, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:34PM 2

follows: 08:34PM 3

MS. GRIFFITH: That's a hard act to 08:34PM 4

follow, Tess Giuliani. 08:34PM 5

Okay. I've lived here for 47 years. I 08:34PM 6

love this town. My husband passed away and I lost my 08:34PM 7

job about four months later, and I was in total 08:34PM 8

turmoil, but one thing I knew, I couldn't move, I had 08:35PM 9

to stay here. 08:35PM 10

I don't need an apartment, because I 08:35PM 11

own a three family house, so I was able to stay. But 08:35PM 12

I think this is the best idea, because I have so many 08:35PM 13

friends that I lost because there was no place in 08:35PM 14

Ridgewood, when their kids all left school, 08:35PM 15

empty-nesters. So I don't think we should go crazy 08:35PM 16

with it, and I think mostly everybody feels the same 08:35PM 17

way, you know, like if there's four up, I don't think 08:35PM 18

four should be built, I think maybe 1 or 2 for the 08:35PM 19

needs. 08:35PM 20

And I do agree with the lady before me 08:35PM 21

that said you need somebody in charge, you know, one 08:35PM 22

person with a knowledge of both sides. 08:35PM 23

And I know the younger generation is 08:35PM 24

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if I was younger, but all I hear is from the 08:35PM 1

superintendent of schools and he said he's not the 08:36PM 2

least bit concerned about that, it's not going to 08:36PM 3

happen, and I believe him, it's not going to happen, 08:36PM 4

the schools are not going to be affected. 08:36PM 5

I don't know anybody who would want to, 08:36PM 6

with two children or three children, move into an 08:36PM 7

apartment and pay a lot of money, when they could be 08:36PM 8

investing in houses. I grew up learning this, don't 08:36PM 9

pay money to a landlord if you can reinvest in your 08:36PM 10

own property. 08:36PM 11

So I hope we put that to rest, because, 08:36PM 12

you know, I hate to see these young parents getting 08:36PM 13

upset over nothing, and knowing if they're doing it 08:36PM 14

because they think, well, we're going to get out once 08:36PM 15

the kids are out of school and I don't care about 08:36PM 16

Ridgewood basically, I don't think they have that 08:36PM 17

motive at all, but I think they're mistaken.08:36PM 18

And that's about it. 08:36PM 19

I'm very optimistic, and I appreciate 08:36PM 20

all the work you guys do. I don't think I could do 08:36PM 21

this on the Planning Board, but thank you. 08:36PM 22


Griffith. 08:37PM 24

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State your name, and spell your name, 08:37PM 1

and provide your address. 08:37PM 2

MR. GRIFFITH: My name is Jim Griffith, 08:37PM 3

G-R-I-F-F-I-T-H, 159 S. Irving.08:37PM 4

JIM GRIFFITH, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:37PM 5

follows: 08:37PM 6

MR. GRIFFITH: Good evening, and thank 08:37PM 7

you for hearing my very humble words. I hope they're 08:37PM 8

humble. 08:37PM 9

I first want to congratulate all of you 08:37PM 10

for the persistence in dealing with this problem. 08:37PM 11

The fact that it took so long is that 08:37PM 12

it's a serious problem, and as you're finding by the 08:37PM 13

people who come before you, they think it's a serious 08:37PM 14

problem. 08:37PM 15

I want to tell you something a little 08:37PM 16

about myself. I moved in here 50 years ago, and I 08:38PM 17

decided I was going to be active. I wasn't going to 08:38PM 18

sit and complain, and I got involved. And, boy, did 08:38PM 19

I find that this town was looking for people like me. 08:38PM 20

And they put me to work quite a bit, and they're 08:38PM 21

still at it. And so I've got over 30 years in with 08:38PM 22

the town, 15 years as a coach, and three years at the 08:38PM 23

county level because they asked. 08:38PM 24

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grow. Pat Mancuso, 40 years or so ago, told me that 08:38PM 1

the founding fathers got it right, we don't have to 08:38PM 2

change anything, what we do is we have to keep it 08:38PM 3

current and up-to-date. And I think that's what 08:38PM 4

you're doing now, and that's the question before you. 08:38PM 5

I think the apartment buildings that 08:38PM 6

are requested to be added are most reasonable, 08:39PM 7

appropriate, and needed. 08:39PM 8

In addition to the other volunteer 08:39PM 9

work, for the last 20 years, I've worked for Habitat 08:39PM 10

for Humanity in Paterson. So when you talk about 08:39PM 11

square foot housing and updates to styles and 08:39PM 12

architectural advancements, I know what you're 08:39PM 13

talking about. If I am scrunched to the lowest 08:39PM 14

possible price to get the most beautiful house on the 08:39PM 15

back streets of Paterson, I know what you're talking 08:39PM 16

about when you want to do what you're doing here. I 08:39PM 17

understand it. And it's about time. And why it 08:39PM 18

hasn't happened sooner, I'm surprised. 08:39PM 19

The thirst for the most modern of 08:39PM 20

appliances is obvious. Do you all have new cars? 08:39PM 21

You like the way the new ones work? Well, you know, 08:39PM 22

there's some people around here love the way the new 08:40PM 23

apartments work and the new architecture that is 08:40PM 24

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improvements over something that's 30 or 40 years 08:40PM 1

old, significant improvements, and that's what a lot 08:40PM 2

of our residents are looking for. 08:40PM 3

I'm also a member of the Hobbyists. 08:40PM 4

Hobbyists is now 450 retired men, and 30 of my 08:40PM 5

brothers live in Mahwah. Now, mind you, they're all 08:40PM 6

retired, 450 men, they're retired, and 30 of them 08:40PM 7

live up in Mahwah. And why do they live there? 08:40PM 8

Because they go up to Mahwah and they have 5 or 6 08:40PM 9

different developments to pick from, and it's all 08:40PM 10

modern, and it's all modern. And when you talk to 08:40PM 11

them, and I do talk to them, I talk to them on a 08:40PM 12

personal basis, there wasn't any here. They did not 08:40PM 13

have an alternative, and they wanted to stay here. 08:40PM 14

They wanted to stay here. 08:41PM 15

So I encourage you now also to help the 08:41PM 16

downtown. We found out in traveling to other 08:41PM 17

communities that if I -- 08:41PM 18

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Mr. Griffith, 08:41PM 19

please wrap up. 08:41PM 20

MR. GRIFFITH: A vital downtown is 08:41PM 21

essential. I think these apartments would add to 08:41PM 22

that. So I encourage you to vote on that. Please 08:41PM 23

use your good judgment on the amount per acre, I 08:41PM 24

can't volunteer in that area, but please, I think 08:41PM 25


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it's a great idea.08:41PM 1

Thank you for working so hard on this 08:41PM 2

issue. Thank you. 08:41PM 3


Mr. Griffith. 08:41PM 5

No. 18 is Ann Denyeau. 08:41PM 6

MS. DENYEAU: I'm Anne, A-N-N-E, 08:42PM 7

Raftery, R-A-F-T-E-R-Y, Denyeau, D-E-N-Y-E-A-U, 72 08:42PM 8

Woodbury Court, Township of Washington.08:42PM 9

ANNE RAFTERY DENYEAU, having been duly sworn, 08:42PM 10

testifies as follows: 08:42PM 11

MS. DENYEAU: I am a former Ridgewood 08:42PM 12

resident. Our family lived in Ridgewood from 08:42PM 13

1982-2013. 08:42PM 14

During those 31 years, our family was 08:42PM 15

very active in the Ridgewood community. For example, 08:42PM 16

I was on the Board of Ed for two terms, president for 08:42PM 17

four. Joe was very active in sports, the usual 08:42PM 18

Ridgewood volunteer things. 08:42PM 19

Like so many families, we initially 08:42PM 20

came to Ridgewood because of its reputation as a good 08:42PM 21

place to raise a family and because of the schools. 08:42PM 22

This ended up being true for our 08:43PM 23

family. 08:43PM 24

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wanted to live in housing which meets my needs now. 08:43PM 1

I am a widow, the children are raised, 08:43PM 2

and I no longer needed, or, frankly, wanted to keep 08:43PM 3

living in and taking care of a house. I was able to 08:43PM 4

sell the house quickly and was ready to move on. 08:43PM 5

My absolute preference was to continue 08:43PM 6

living in Ridgewood. This is my community where I 08:43PM 7

have deep roots. But there was a severe shortage of 08:43PM 8

appropriate rental housing, and I could not find a 08:43PM 9

place. The apartment building I preferred had a 08:43PM 10

two-year waiting list. This was The Schoolhouse. 08:43PM 11

So I ended up moving to Washington 08:43PM 12

Township, even though Ridgewood is where my heart is. 08:43PM 13

I'm very typical of many Ridgewood 08:43PM 14

residents who have reached the same stage of life. I 08:43PM 15

truly believe that Ridgewood should be concerned 08:43PM 16

about keeping this population in Ridgewood. We have 08:43PM 17

long ties here, we have volunteered and managed many 08:43PM 18

of the organizations which are a major part of 08:43PM 19

Ridgewood, and we are not a drain on any services. 08:44PM 20

Housing in downtown Ridgewood makes 08:44PM 21

sense. It will add to the diversity and stability of 08:44PM 22

the Central Business District. Just think about the 08:44PM 23

increased foot traffic instead of cars. 08:44PM 24

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traffic, but I believe housing will burden less 08:44PM 1

traffic than large retail sites, which are already 08:44PM 2

allowed under current zoning. 08:44PM 3

When I think of retail and traffic, I 08:44PM 4

think of Whole Foods, where there are times where 08:44PM 5

someone has to be outside directing traffic. Another 08:44PM 6

facility like that would be allowed under the current 08:44PM 7

zoning, I believe. 08:44PM 8

I remember the traffic on Maple Avenue 08:44PM 9

caused by Sealfon's from shoppers who went in there 08:44PM 10

for a retail transaction. This generated much more 08:44PM 11

in and out traffic than an apartment building where 08:44PM 12

people do not typically make multiple trips in and 08:44PM 13

out, especially when you're not doing all the 08:44PM 14

carpools. Ridgewood has always been known as a 08:44PM 15

young, family-friendly town. I urge you to broaden 08:45PM 16

Ridgewood's reputation to bring a great community to 08:45PM 17

Ridgewood, I urge you to broaden Ridgewood's 08:45PM 18

reputation to being a great community for people of 08:45PM 19

all ages. 08:45PM 20

Please approve zoning which would allow 08:45PM 21

for multi-unit apartments in the downtown area. 08:45PM 22

I also thank you for the amount of time 08:45PM 23

that you have spent on this. I know what a thankless 08:45PM 24

task and job you have. But I ask you to please use 08:45PM 25


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the leadership that needs to be done here and find a 08:45PM 1

way that works for both sides. 08:45PM 2



much, Anne. 08:45PM 5

No. 19 is Felicia Angus. 08:45PM 6

MS. ANGUS: F-E-L-I-C-I-A A-N-G-U-S, 08:45PM 7

82 Fairmount Road. 08:45PM 8

FELICIA ANGUS, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:45PM 9

follows: 08:45PM 10

MS. ANGUS: So I had all good things to 08:46PM 11

say that everybody said before. 08:46PM 12

We've heard how the older empty-nesters 08:46PM 13

want an alternative place to live. But when I went 08:46PM 14

to one of the developers' meetings, he said that it 08:46PM 15

was not profitable to make just an empty-nester 08:46PM 16

building. 08:46PM 17

To me that would be a slam dunk, since 08:46PM 18

there are all these people here who want to live 08:46PM 19

there, but they can't make a profit. So if one 08:46PM 20

developer can't make a profit with a bookend 08:46PM 21

building, how are three going to make that profit? 08:46PM 22

And where do we go from something that's great for 08:46PM 23

the older generation to flooding, and then getting in 08:46PM 24

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infrastructure. 08:46PM 1

My basic suggestion is to build a 08:46PM 2

parking garage and approve one of these proposals, 08:46PM 3

perhaps maybe just one of the zones of the master 08:46PM 4

zone. I don't know why we actually have to attack 08:46PM 5

all the zones at the same time. Go slow and see how 08:46PM 6

it goes, how the town deals with construction 08:47PM 7

disruptions with the affect that the extra folks have 08:47PM 8

on town, on its commerce and infrastructure, both in 08:47PM 9

a positive and negative way. 08:47PM 10

As somebody else had said, anything we 08:47PM 11

do is irreversible, so it's better to go slow than 08:47PM 12

reap unintended consequences. 08:47PM 13

We want to keep Ridgewood vibrant, but 08:47PM 14

there's a fine line between that and lining the 08:47PM 15

pockets of others at the expense of increasing not 08:47PM 16

only homeowners' tax burdens but everything else that 08:47PM 17

could go wrong within the town. 08:47PM 18

As much as you want to think the folks 08:47PM 19

don't want to move out, people my age that are 08:47PM 20

empty-nesters are moving out because the taxes are 08:47PM 21

too high. 08:47PM 22

We're all fit. We're healthy. We're 08:47PM 23

living longer, as is witnessed. We're all living 08:47PM 24

longer than ever before. I still don't mind mowing a 08:47PM 25


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yard, what I mind is the unconscionable taxes that 08:47PM 1

everybody is paying, and I think when you come to the 08:47PM 2

empty-nesters of my generation, that's exactly what 08:47PM 3

they'll tell you first, the taxes are out of control. 08:47PM 4

So before we can okay a change to the 08:48PM 5

town and risk raising the taxes, let's go and do some 08:48PM 6

of the changes, but slowly and in a logical order.08:48PM 7

I would like to just address somebody 08:48PM 8

who mentioned Bronxville before, because he had 08:48PM 9

mentioned it before, so I went and I actually called 08:48PM 10

several of my friends who live in houses in 08:48PM 11

Bronxville, and they said their taxes are out of 08:48PM 12

control. The apartment buildings have flooded the 08:48PM 13

system, and it's just taken them -- just it's been 08:48PM 14

irreversible and out of control. 08:48PM 15

Anyway, here we go. Go slow, but go. 08:48PM 16

MS. PETERS: You stated about the 08:48PM 17

empty-nesters. Could it possibly have been that one 08:48PM 18

of the developers may have commented regarding 55 08:48PM 19

plus, designating that type of age-restricted 08:48PM 20

housing? 08:48PM 21

MS. ANGUS: Yes, but that would be what 08:48PM 22

I assume an empty-nester is. 08:48PM 23

MS. PETERS: Thank you for clarifying. 08:48PM 24



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Angus. 08:48PM 1

Thank you, Michele. 08:48PM 2

No. 20 is Pat Middleton.08:49PM 3

MS. MIDDLETON: Pat Middleton, 08:49PM 4

M-I-D-D-L-E-T-O-N. I live at 128 California Street.08:49PM 5

PAT MIDDLETON, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:49PM 6

follows:08:49PM 7

MS. MIDDLETON: Many people tonight 08:49PM 8

have talked about the housing and the density, and 08:49PM 9

one thing that I just don't want to be overlooked in 08:49PM 10

this process is the need for parking. 08:49PM 11

I love to go for dinner in Ridgewood, 08:49PM 12

but you need to allocate at least 15 minutes to find 08:49PM 13

a parking spot. 08:49PM 14

You talk to the people in the shops or 08:49PM 15

your hairdresser, and it's really hard for them to 08:49PM 16

find parking when they work here during the day. My 08:49PM 17

favorite shoe guy on Oak Street is now offering 08:49PM 18

curbside service, because he says people tell him 08:49PM 19

they don't want to come in after nine in the morning 08:49PM 20

because there's no parking. So I just want to make 08:49PM 21

sure that is not forgotten. 08:49PM 22

For me, the Ken Smith spot would be a 08:49PM 23

good location, but I just wanted to state that.08:50PM 24



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Ms. Middleton. 08:50PM 2

That was the last person who signed up 08:50PM 3

on the first sheet. 08:50PM 4

We have more? 08:50PM 5

Has everybody signed in who wants to 08:50PM 6

speak tonight? 08:50PM 7

We are going to continue also on the 08:50PM 8

3rd of February, if you haven't, to allow folks that 08:50PM 9

couldn't make it tonight to speak as well. 08:50PM 10

What is the time? 08:50PM 11

8:50. 08:50PM 12

Why don't we do a few more, then we'll 08:50PM 13

take a short break. 08:50PM 14

Okay. Tracey Highfill, No. 36. 08:50PM 15

MS. HIGHFILL: Hi. Tracey, 08:50PM 16

T-R-A-C-E-Y, Highfill, H-I-G-H-F-I-L-L. I live at 08:50PM 17

233 Highwood.08:50PM 18

TRACEY HIGHFILL, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:50PM 19

follows:08:50PM 20

MS. HIGHFILL: I moved here 11 years 08:51PM 21

ago, and I read the local paper, I used to read it 08:51PM 22

cover to cover. I can't anymore, I can't stand it, 08:51PM 23

because it's the same articles over and over again, 08:51PM 24

same topics: It's parking and now it's housing.08:51PM 25


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So as I read and I hear about this 08:51PM 1

topic, I had some random thoughts occur and I'd like 08:51PM 2

to share. 08:51PM 3

I think what it boils down to me as an 08:51PM 4

observer, as an outsider who comes in, is that you 08:51PM 5

can't have it both ways. You can't have a high 08:51PM 6

performance school system and recreational sports, 08:51PM 7

and then close the border when people are interested 08:51PM 8

in moving to a good district. 08:52PM 9

After all, I moved here for the schools 08:52PM 10

and so did many of the people in this room, the 08:52PM 11

difference being I bought a house, I didn't come as a 08:52PM 12

renter. 08:52PM 13

You can't make statements about renters 08:52PM 14

with children overwhelming the schools, but not about 08:52PM 15

home sales to large families. One family with 08:52PM 16

multiple children adds to the school population. 08:52PM 17

I know families with six children. I 08:52PM 18

think that's pretty overwhelming, in many ways. You 08:52PM 19

can't fret about the influx of renters with children 08:52PM 20

and not the influx of homeowners with children, 08:52PM 21

that's classism, that's defined as discrimination or 08:52PM 22

prejudice based on social or economic class. 08:52PM 23

After all, some of these families might 08:52PM 24

be moving in to just sample the area, because that's 08:52PM 25


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the way you do it, if you're trying to figure out if 08:52PM 1

it's a place you want to go. 08:52PM 2

So you rent a little while, and then 08:53PM 3

you fall in love, and then you buy a house. 08:53PM 4

And you can't delay for years solutions 08:53PM 5

to parking and traffic, and then complain about 08:53PM 6

pedestrian causalities and a lack of parking. 08:53PM 7

Local shops need customers and 08:53PM 8

customers need parking solutions. The developments 08:53PM 9

provide both. 08:53PM 10

There's more to this village than 08:53PM 11

children's schools and sports, there's a whole other 08:53PM 12

population here that deserves consideration. 08:53PM 13



Highfill. 08:53PM 16

The next person is Scott van den Bosch. 08:53PM 17

MR. van den BOSCH: Scott, S-C-O-T-T, 08:53PM 18

van den Bosch, V-A-N D-E-N B-O-S-C-H, 302 Stevens 08:53PM 19

Avenue in Ridgewood.08:53PM 20

SCOTT van den BOSCH, having been duly sworn, 08:53PM 21

testifies as follows:08:53PM 22

MR. van den BOSCH: I'm very strongly 08:54PM 23

opposed to these development plans as they are. 08:54PM 24

One thing this kind of strikes me, the 08:54PM 25


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experience I had when I wanted to do some 08:54PM 1

modifications to my own house, I had the misfortune 08:54PM 2

of coming before the variance board. I have never 08:54PM 3

been before the criminal justice system, but I really 08:54PM 4

feel I went through it. I wasn't adding any kids to 08:54PM 5

the school system, I wasn't putting existing stress 08:54PM 6

on infrastructure, but I really felt like I was 08:54PM 7

committing a major crime, and I think it only got 08:54PM 8

passed after all my neighbors who are around me stood 08:54PM 9

in favor of it, but I think that their comments were 08:54PM 10

more of an afterthought. 08:54PM 11

So, I mean, I'm just really struck by 08:54PM 12

this, that I had to go through that, and someone who 08:54PM 13

is going to have so many detrimental impacts on the 08:54PM 14

school and in the town overall, and they get serious 08:54PM 15

consideration. There's kind of a vast difference 08:54PM 16

there in the way we're treated. 08:55PM 17

I think Blais' calculations about the 08:55PM 18

school impact are understated. I mean, I'm not a 08:55PM 19

credit analyst, I used to live at 306 Oak Avenue in 08:55PM 20

the Oak Manor Apartments, and there are a lot of kids 08:55PM 21

there. My kids liked living there. Why? Because 08:55PM 22

there's so many kids to play with. That was not 08:55PM 23

included in this calculation, and that's why people 08:55PM 24

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But I think there's other things, the 08:55PM 1

infrastructure, and I feel like I used to live in New 08:55PM 2

York City, I moved here because I wanted to live in a 08:55PM 3

smaller town, I didn't want to live in a city, but I 08:55PM 4

feel increasingly that I am living in a city, not 08:55PM 5

just downtown but in other parts of traffic. There 08:55PM 6

are certain times of day that are kind of "no go 08:55PM 7

zones," because the traffic is too backed up. You 08:55PM 8

see the traffic parking signs or you can't park in 08:55PM 9

places between certain times. I think there's a sign 08:55PM 10

on Linwood Avenue where you can't make a right turn 08:55PM 11

at certain times, you know, so many more no left turn 08:55PM 12

signs. And, again, I think we're not prepared on the 08:56PM 13

impact this has on the infrastructure, and I think 08:56PM 14

Blais pointed out we cannot ask the developers to 08:56PM 15

contribute to that, I think that's what his comment 08:56PM 16

was. 08:56PM 17

Also, this town has major problems with 08:56PM 18

mass transit. And everyone likes to think that 08:56PM 19

everyone is going to use the train, I ride the bus 08:56PM 20

every day an hour and a half commuting, lots of time 08:56PM 21

it's standing-room only, so I suspect this is going 08:56PM 22

to add only more burden to that system, and I don't 08:56PM 23

have a lot of faith New Jersey Transit is going to be 08:56PM 24

more responsive to our need, they haven't been for 08:56PM 25


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many years. 08:56PM 1

You know, I think that a lot of this is 08:56PM 2

really just transfer of wealth and standard of living 08:56PM 3

from the residents to the developers. And I think 08:56PM 4

that the committee has to also decide that this is 08:56PM 5

very much a permanent decision. There's a lifecycle 08:56PM 6

to commercial development. That is something that we 08:56PM 7

saw from Bergen, we saw from the Kmart in Paramus, 08:56PM 8

the commercial sites, they change, they go in and out 08:57PM 9

of fad, but residential units, this will be here, you 08:57PM 10

know, a hundred years from now, 150 years from now, 08:57PM 11

these will probably be all residential units. So 08:57PM 12

it's very much a permanent decision, and I feel the 08:57PM 13

impact is going to be very negative. 08:57PM 14

I feel there's a lot of concern here is 08:57PM 15

that this somehow will fix our downtown problems, but 08:57PM 16

there are very strong forces against our downtown, 08:57PM 17

not only big box retail, but everything is moving 08:57PM 18

online, not just retail and banking. So I think to 08:57PM 19

suddenly put in a few large developments in there is 08:57PM 20

somehow going to have a profound impact when there 08:57PM 21

are strong efforts against it, and we never addressed 08:57PM 22

parking, as many people have said. 08:57PM 23

In conclusion, it seems like there is a 08:57PM 24

common ground here that if these were mandated, if 08:57PM 25


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they dramatically reduced in size and mandated just 08:57PM 1

for the 55 and over, I don't think people would have 08:57PM 2

a problem with it.08:57PM 3

It's very striking that there is room 08:57PM 4

for compromise here, but, you know, I think it has to 08:58PM 5

be for the 55 and over, it has to be enforced, that's 08:58PM 6

an important consideration, and it has to be 08:58PM 7

downsized. 08:58PM 8



No applause, please. 08:58PM 11

Kathryn Schmidt.08:58PM 12

MS. SCHMIDT: Kathryn Schmidt, 08:58PM 13

K-A-T-H-R-Y-N S-C-H-M-I-D-T, 123 S. Irving Street in 08:58PM 14


KATHRYN SCHMIDT, having been duly sworn, testifies as 08:58PM 16

follows:08:58PM 17

MS. SCHMIDT: Thank you for this 08:58PM 18

opportunity to share my point of view. 08:58PM 19

For me, there is still a number of 08:58PM 20

questions that I feel have not been answered, though 08:58PM 21

I'm not seeking those answers tonight. 08:58PM 22

First, I remain concerned that we put 08:58PM 23

the cart before the horse by creating ordinances that 08:58PM 24

drive a Master Plan, rather than the reverse of a 08:58PM 25


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Master Plan driving our ordinances. I'm not sure we 08:58PM 1

can reverse this now, but speeding up a review of our 08:59PM 2

Master Plan could be an option to help us be prepared 08:59PM 3

for what might be the best use of sites going 08:59PM 4

forward. 08:59PM 5

Second, and I'm not even sure this is 08:59PM 6

still on the table, but what is the gap in affordable 08:59PM 7

housing in Ridgewood? The closest I've gotten to an 08:59PM 8

answer on this is that it's a very complicated 08:59PM 9


Whether there's a gap or not would 08:59PM 11

probably not change my opinion on whether to proceed 08:59PM 12

or not, but it would give me additional confidence in 08:59PM 13

the process and a better understanding of all the 08:59PM 14

needs we're trying to address. 08:59PM 15

Third, what are the financial costs and 08:59PM 16

benefits to the village? 08:59PM 17

I'm not referring to school costs, 08:59PM 18

which we've heard quite a bit about, but things like 08:59PM 19

police, fire, sanitation, water, road repair and 08:59PM 20

maintenance? 08:59PM 21

I don't think we heard those numbers. 08:59PM 22

But, also, what could we expect in terms of increased 08:59PM 23

tax revenues and increased buying power that could 08:59PM 24

bring even more vitality to our commercial district?08:59PM 25


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Either side of this equation, expenses 09:00PM 1

or revenues, could be powerful drivers of this 09:00PM 2

decision. 09:00PM 3

And fourth: What is the exit strategy 09:00PM 4

if this doesn't work either because the units don't 09:00PM 5

rent at the luxury prices expected or because we 09:00PM 6

experienced unanticipated negative consequences or 09:00PM 7

because markets change, as they inevitably will, how 09:00PM 8

does the town get out of this, if it ends up being 09:00PM 9

the wrong thing to do in the grand scheme of things? 09:00PM 10

And, last, I really do feel a need to 09:00PM 11

say something else, although this has not really come 09:00PM 12

up much tonight. One of the biggest concerns I've 09:00PM 13

heard raised has been about schools. 09:00PM 14

I have confidence that we have a school 09:00PM 15

system that can flexibly respond as enrollment 09:00PM 16

expands and contracts over time. But, and this is 09:00PM 17

the part I haven't heard much of tonight, I've been 09:00PM 18

very concerned about some conversations I've heard 09:00PM 19

around this topic talking about "those people" coming 09:00PM 20

into our village just to provide their children with 09:00PM 21

a good education. 09:00PM 22

I would suspect that many of us are a 09:00PM 23

product of "those people," whether our parents, 09:01PM 24

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great-great-grandparents, who found a way to provide 09:01PM 1

something better no matter what. 09:01PM 2

I worry that some of our conversations 09:01PM 3

reflect a tone and a bit of harshness that I would 09:01PM 4

not want to see this village associated with, and I 09:01PM 5

urge us all to be cautious in this conversation. 09:01PM 6

But having said all that, I have to 09:01PM 7

admit that in the beginning I was very against the 09:01PM 8

proposed idea of higher density rental housing with 09:01PM 9

height variances and the inevitable changes to the 09:01PM 10

look and feel of downtown. 09:01PM 11

I still have really big concerns about 09:01PM 12

enabling 3 or 4 projects, but I would support going 09:01PM 13

forward with one, maybe two, testing the theory and 09:01PM 14

then using the results as a blueprint for planning 09:01PM 15

others, if appropriate. 09:01PM 16



Schmidt. 09:01PM 19

Okay. We have a dozen more people. 09:01PM 20

It's 9:00. Why don't we take a ten-minute break and 09:01PM 21

resume at ten minutes after nine. 09:01PM 22

(A short recess is held.) 09:01PM 23

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Okay. Ladies and 09:25PM 24

gentlemen, we're going to resume public comment, so 09:25PM 25


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if you wouldn't mind taking your seats. 09:25PM 1

We're going to resume public comment, 09:25PM 2

but before we begin, Michael, will you please call 09:26PM 3

the roll.09:26PM 4

(At this point in the proceeding roll 09:26PM 5

call is taken with Mr. Thurston, Ms. Bigos, 09:26PM 6

Councilwoman Knudsen, Mayor Aronsohn, Chairman 09:26PM 7

Nalbantian, Vice-Chairman Joel, Ms. Dockray, 09:26PM 8

Ms. Peters, Ms. Altano, and Mr. Abdalla 09:26PM 9

present, with Mr. Reilly absent.) 09:26PM 10


Michael.09:26PM 12

Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, we're 09:26PM 13

going to continue until roughly 10:00, maybe a little 09:26PM 14

bit beyond that, depending on where we are with the 09:26PM 15

list. 09:26PM 16

And for those of you who don't have 09:26PM 17

opportunity to speak tonight, I know some of you have 09:26PM 18

come already asking if you could speak on the 3rd. 09:26PM 19

We will continue this process on February 3rd here at 09:26PM 20

the high school, where those people who couldn't make 09:26PM 21

it tonight will have opportunity to make comment, and 09:26PM 22

we'll also have a list for the 3rd. 09:26PM 23

I think the next person who's on the 09:27PM 24

list is John Bonfiglio. 09:27PM 25


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Come forward please, please state your 09:27PM 1

name, spell your name, and provide your address.09:27PM 2


MR. BONFIGLIO: Sure. 09:27PM 4

John Bonfiglio, B-O-N-F-I-G-L-I-O. I 09:27PM 5

live at 237 Waiku Road. 09:27PM 6

JOHN BONFIGLIO, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:27PM 7

follows:09:27PM 8

MR. BONFIGLIO: Thank you for hearing 09:27PM 9

me tonight and thank you for spending all this time. 09:27PM 10

I've been to quite a few meetings, I know you've 09:27PM 11

invested quite a bit of time in this process. 09:27PM 12

I'm a resident in Ridgewood for 16 09:27PM 13

years, which, until tonight, I thought was a very 09:27PM 14

long time. So my perspective is as a resident and 09:27PM 15

also as someone who's active in ownership and 09:27PM 16

management of real estate, including multi-family 09:27PM 17

real estate. And my perspective is also, when I 09:28PM 18

think about this situation, I think like a lot of 09:28PM 19

residents, I believe it's a sad fact that the car 09:28PM 20

dealerships are no longer in Ridgewood, the 09:28PM 21

department stores are gone. And I think, like many 09:28PM 22

residents, we'd like to see redevelopment of those 09:28PM 23

spaces. We want to see a vibrant downtown, but, 09:28PM 24

nevertheless, I'm here to ask you to vote no to the 09:28PM 25


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proposal, at least as originally construed in the 09:28PM 1

Master Plan proposal. 09:28PM 2

So why is that? 09:28PM 3

I think the primary reason I think you 09:28PM 4

should vote no is the density is just too high. 09:28PM 5

As I read in an editorial or op-ed to 09:28PM 6

the Ridgewood News, I think you're starting on a very 09:28PM 7

slippery slope, if you grant very high density to 09:28PM 8

certain parcels. 09:28PM 9

I can tell you, as a real estate 09:28PM 10

professional, many people will look at the parcel 09:28PM 11

next door and say, gee, I'd like to buy a parcel, and 09:28PM 12

if you gave that fellow 50 units per acre, I'd like 09:28PM 13

50 units an acre, and I think you'd have a very 09:28PM 14

difficult legal proposition saying no to that next 09:29PM 15

developer. 09:29PM 16

In addition, I would share with you, 09:29PM 17

having worked in commercial real estate for 25 years, 09:29PM 18

here's a fact, the developers are very resourceful 09:29PM 19

people. They're going to come to you and ask for as 09:29PM 20

many units as they can potentially ask for, and 09:29PM 21

they're trying to do one thing, simply make as much 09:29PM 22

money as they can. 09:29PM 23

I do believe, if you turn them down or 09:29PM 24

reduce the units per acre, they're very resourceful, 09:29PM 25


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they'll build apartments, many with the amenities 09:29PM 1

that many of the retirees here requested, washer and 09:29PM 2

dryer, most notably. 09:29PM 3

So another point I wanted to make, and 09:29PM 4

I heard it several times when I attended several of 09:29PM 5

the meetings, is that building these apartments would 09:29PM 6

be very beneficial for downtown.09:29PM 7

I don't dispute that fact, but I would 09:29PM 8

say the following: 09:29PM 9

The top three issues that you've heard 09:29PM 10

here tonight, you heard it for 50 years in this town. 09:29PM 11

The top issues facing the retailing and downtown are: 09:30PM 12

Parking, parking and parking. So don't confuse 09:30PM 13

yourself in saying, gee, if we build these 09:30PM 14

apartments, retail will somehow be more vibrant. It 09:30PM 15

will not. 09:30PM 16

The solution is in front of you, build 09:30PM 17

significant parking, and retail will be much more 09:30PM 18

vibrant in downtown Ridgewood. 09:30PM 19

So to conclude, I am not against 09:30PM 20

redevelopment, I'm not against multi-family housing, 09:30PM 21

I do think the proposed density should be nowhere 09:30PM 22

near the 50 that's been on the table. 09:30PM 23




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Mr. Bonfiglio. 09:30PM 1

Okay. Robert Kotch.09:30PM 2

MR. KOTCH: Robert Kotch, K-O-T-C-H. I 09:31PM 3

live at 60 N. Hillside Place. 09:31PM 4

ROBERT KOTCH, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:31PM 5

follows:09:31PM 6

MR. KOTCH: I am completely opposed to 09:31PM 7

changes in the Master Plan as proposed. 09:31PM 8

I think people have forgotten that this 09:31PM 9

whole proposal, change in the Master Plan, was 09:31PM 10

initiated by the developers, not by members of the 09:31PM 11

town. 09:31PM 12

I think the developers are well within 09:31PM 13

the right to develop with the Master Plan as it is 09:31PM 14

and the density is fine. 09:31PM 15

I think there's a bigger question here 09:31PM 16

and there's a great moment for the town of Ridgewood 09:31PM 17

to really reaffirm and declare the identity: What 09:31PM 18

are we? 09:31PM 19

We're a small town. And I really think 09:31PM 20

that you have plenty of time, there's no reason to 09:31PM 21

rush in here to satisfy a couple of developers. I 09:31PM 22

think, like the gentleman said before me, there's a 09:32PM 23

slippery slope if you increase this density, it's not 09:32PM 24

just these four proposals, but I think a lot of 09:32PM 25


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people don't realize this is a change in the Master 09:32PM 1

Plan, it's not just a proposal to approve 3 or 4 09:32PM 2

developments. 09:32PM 3

And I just think, everybody knows 09:32PM 4

retail is dead. I'm for redevelopment. I just think 09:32PM 5

it's time to take sometime, do a lot of research, 09:32PM 6

what works in other towns. We are a town of 09:32PM 7

families. And to me, there's got to be more 09:32PM 8

amenities downtown that are commercial that don't 09:32PM 9

increase the population. 09:32PM 10

The population, by the way, you can 09:32PM 11

Google it, has not changed. It changed .09 percent 09:32PM 12

in the last 15 years. It's about 25,000, give or 09:32PM 13

take a thousand, year in and year out. The town is 09:32PM 14

not growing. It never has, I don't know if it ever 09:32PM 15

will. But for me, one has to come up with 09:32PM 16

imaginative commercial enterprises that attract 09:33PM 17

people to downtown as visitors, increase vibrancy, 09:33PM 18

let them spend money. So I think it's in terms of 09:33PM 19

maybe educational schools, dance school, 09:33PM 20

glassblowing, some kind of crafts, artisans, 09:33PM 21

recreation, all those things should be discussed 09:33PM 22

first and what can bring more people downtown to 09:33PM 23

spend money, and then let them get back on the train 09:33PM 24

and go back to Hoboken, Ho-Ho-Kus or wherever they 09:33PM 25


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want to go, but really there's more things to discuss 09:33PM 1

than just satisfying the initiatives of the 09:33PM 2

redevelopers. 09:33PM 3

Thank you very much. 09:33PM 4


Mr. Kotch. 09:33PM 6

Lisa Baney. 09:33PM 7

LISA BANEY, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:33PM 8

follows: 09:33PM 9

MS. BANEY: Hi, Lisa Baney, B-A-N-E-Y. 09:34PM 10

I live at 136 Brookside Avenue. 09:34PM 11

Good evening, friends. 09:34PM 12

Those who have been advocating for the 09:34PM 13

Master Plan amendment tonight have been repeatedly 09:34PM 14

stating an understandable and true premise, one so 09:34PM 15

many in Ridgewood agree with and I would bet that 09:34PM 16

almost everyone in the room would agree with this, 09:34PM 17

that there are so many residents who would like to 09:34PM 18

stay in Ridgewood, live in the Central Business 09:34PM 19

District, use the transit system and enjoy the 09:34PM 20

downtown, which would certainly support the local 09:34PM 21

businesses, and there would be so many good things 09:34PM 22

about that. 09:35PM 23

And, as Tess and other people said, it 09:35PM 24

would honor the history of all the contributions that 09:35PM 25


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people do make in our town throughout so many 09:35PM 1

decades. 09:35PM 2

I honestly don't think anyone here 09:35PM 3

would differ, yes, there should be more apartments. 09:35PM 4

In particular, I understand many here tonight are 09:35PM 5

discussing the need for the high-end apartments for 09:35PM 6

the empty-nesters. 09:35PM 7

The problem is: How many? Has the 09:35PM 8

Planning Board or our Village Planner gone out and 09:35PM 9

quantified the demand in a specific way? 09:35PM 10

Put differently is: I think that those 09:35PM 11

who oppose this particular amendment are in favor of 09:35PM 12

a more moderate foray, a more cautious foray into 09:35PM 13

this desirable direction, but with moderation. 09:35PM 14

There was another big application for a 09:35PM 15

Master Plan amendment in recent years that took up a 09:35PM 16

lot of the village's energy, where I believe the 09:35PM 17

problem was also the degree of development. 09:36PM 18

The part I struggled with so deeply was 09:36PM 19

the premise that the development in that case had to 09:36PM 20

be so large to succeed, and that there was no more 09:36PM 21

moderate way to do it. 09:36PM 22

This is a problem when no one can 09:36PM 23

really discuss the math and the business strategy 09:36PM 24

that underpins the viability and indeed the specific 09:36PM 25


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necessity for a certain degree of change in the 09:36PM 1

Master Plan, in this case allowing this high density. 09:36PM 2

So I ask you as the members of the 09:36PM 3

Planning Board, is this the only way to meet the 09:36PM 4

known, the fact there is current need in town for 09:36PM 5

apartments, is the only way to do it to go to this 09:36PM 6

number of units and to this density? 09:36PM 7

And I want to repeat this, because I 09:36PM 8

really think this is the crux of the whole matter, 09:36PM 9

after hearing so many residents who, you know, we all 09:36PM 10

would love to stay in town, many of us at some point, 09:37PM 11

but do we need to quantify, you know, how many do we 09:37PM 12

need, and do we have to do this all etched in stone 09:37PM 13

in the Master Plan all at once? 09:37PM 14

A lot of the predictions, we should 09:37PM 15

say, and conclusions that have been made that it 09:37PM 16

won't affect the parking, that in fact that the 09:37PM 17

apartments will only need a low amount of parking, 09:37PM 18

maybe one, one and a half, less than two cars per 09:37PM 19

apartment, and that people will mostly walk around 09:37PM 20

town, that they won't need to drive when they get 09:37PM 21

their groceries, to bring their groceries home, or 09:37PM 22

that they won't go to social organizations across 09:37PM 23

town with their many friends of many decades to go to 09:37PM 24

do volunteer work or to perhaps buy some things on a 09:37PM 25


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highway, the idea that they're not going to use their 09:37PM 1

cars. 09:37PM 2

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: It's time. 09:37PM 3

MS. BANEY: I'd like to conclude, I 09:37PM 4

think because we don't know if those conclusions are 09:37PM 5

correct, we don't know exactly what the demand will 09:37PM 6

be in ten years for the units, I think moderation is 09:37PM 7

what everyone is really asking for before any change 09:38PM 8

in the Master Plan. 09:38PM 9



Baney. 09:38PM 12

Ed Sullivan. 09:38PM 13

MR. SULLIVAN: Good evening. I will 09:38PM 14

defer to our current Chamber of Commerce president, 09:38PM 15

Paul Vagianos. He's the current president and a 09:38PM 16

local landlord as well. 09:38PM 17

Mr. Vagianos.09:38PM 18

MR. VAGIANOS: Thanks, Ed.09:38PM 19

PAUL VAGIANOS, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:38PM 20

follows: 09:38PM 21

MR. VAGIANOS: Paul Vagianos, 09:38PM 22

V-A-G-I-A-N-O-S, 280 Rivera Court. 09:38PM 23

Good evening. I own It's Greek to Me 09:39PM 24

Restaurant in town for the past 20 years. I own 09:39PM 25


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commercial property and residential property in town 09:39PM 1

in the Central Business District. I am the current 09:39PM 2

Chamber of Commerce president, and I was shoved up 09:39PM 3

here by two former Chamber of Commerce presidents, 09:39PM 4

and they use the excuse that I'm the current one. 09:39PM 5

I spend a lot of time in the Central 09:39PM 6

Business District, probably as much or more than 09:39PM 7

anybody in this room. I am also, most importantly, a 09:39PM 8

resident of this town, and I have an enormous amount 09:39PM 9

of respect for the people who oppose the Master Plan 09:39PM 10

amendment, because they all want the same thing that 09:39PM 11

we want, they want a great downtown, they want a 09:39PM 12

great town. 09:40PM 13

I personally and on behalf of the 09:40PM 14

chamber support the Master Plan amendment, and I'll 09:40PM 15

tell you why. 09:40PM 16

These properties that we're talking 09:40PM 17

about have been dormant and fallow for years. The 09:40PM 18

developers who are coming in to put up apartments 09:40PM 19

have been pending for a very long time, and whether 09:40PM 20

anyone knows it or not, Ridgewood is known in the 09:40PM 21

development and commercial community as a town you 09:40PM 22

don't go to because the town always says no. Don't 09:40PM 23

go there, don't waste your time, don't do business 09:40PM 24

there, because they'll hold you up forever and then 09:40PM 25


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they'll say no. 09:40PM 1

We speak to people who own chains of 09:40PM 2

stores who don't want to come, and they don't want to 09:40PM 3

come because we always say no. 09:40PM 4

If we want something in our downtown 09:40PM 5

besides nail salons and restaurants, we have to start 09:41PM 6

saying yes. 09:41PM 7

If you say no to these developments, 09:41PM 8

which I personally don't think as a resident are a 09:41PM 9

bad thing, we may all get something we don't want, 09:41PM 10

because they won't remain vacant forever, something 09:41PM 11

is going to come in. And, again, we may like it. 09:41PM 12

This, by itself, won't fix our 09:41PM 13

downtown. 09:41PM 14

The gentleman who just spoke said the 09:41PM 15

three main issues in town are parking, parking and 09:41PM 16

parking. Well, add to that numbers 4, 5 and 6, which 09:41PM 17

are also: Parking, parking and parking. 09:41PM 18

Having said that, this will help. This 09:41PM 19

is a good thing. This is something that will 09:41PM 20

invigorate our downtown. Fixing a downtown is not a 09:41PM 21

one step process, it's more complicated than that. 09:41PM 22

You need parking, you need development, 09:42PM 23

you need developers, you need stores, you need people 09:42PM 24

to come in to try and develop. 09:42PM 25


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No one will come in, if we keep saying 09:42PM 1

no. 09:42PM 2

I own two small apartments in town, a 09:42PM 3

two bedroom and a one bedroom. I've owned them for 09:42PM 4

15 years. For the longest time, they rented for 09:42PM 5

under $1,000 each. In those 15 years, two 09:42PM 6

school-aged children lived there, those two children 09:42PM 7

were mine when we moved there for three months when 09:42PM 8

we renovated our house. Other than that, in those 09:42PM 9

two apartments, for under $1,000 each, and they're 09:42PM 10

very nice apartments, no school-aged children have 09:42PM 11

ever lived there. 09:42PM 12

Finally, in closing, I just want to say 09:42PM 13

that the person who pushed me up here the most was my 09:42PM 14

wife, who said, "You know something about the 09:42PM 15

downtown, please go and tell them what you know. And 09:42PM 16

please, you know some of these developers, see if you 09:43PM 17

can get us an apartment, because I want to get out of 09:43PM 18

this big house." 09:43PM 19

So that's all I have to say tonight. 09:43PM 20

Thank you very much for your time. 09:43PM 21

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you, Paul. 09:43PM 22

Paul, you have a question. 09:43PM 23

MR. VAGIANOS: Oh, yes. 09:43PM 24

MS. PETERS: You literally just led 09:43PM 25


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right into when you said your wife talked to you 09:43PM 1

about getting an apartment. 09:43PM 2

So will you give up one of your two 09:43PM 3

cars if you were to get an apartment? 09:43PM 4

MR. VAGIANOS: I beg your pardon? 09:43PM 5

MS. PETERS: Would you give up one of 09:43PM 6

the two cars, if you get an apartment? 09:43PM 7

You said your wife said I want one of 09:43PM 8

those apartments, will you give up one of those cars, 09:43PM 9

so it means only one car for the two of you? 09:43PM 10

MR. VAGIANOS: I don't know what you're 09:43PM 11

talking about. 09:43PM 12

MS. PETERS: Because not everyone of 09:43PM 13

these developments that have been proposed have room 09:43PM 14

for two cars, there's only like one parking space is 09:43PM 15

allotted for each of the units. 09:43PM 16

MR. VAGIANOS: Perhaps. I don't 09:43PM 17

commute to work, so I might do that. First I've 09:43PM 18

thought of it, but as you mention it, probably. I 09:44PM 19

barely have to drive my car now, so I might. We'll 09:44PM 20

cross that bridge when we come to it. 09:44PM 21

MS. PETERS: But it's a consideration 09:44PM 22

that we take in, because if you have a development 09:44PM 23

that has only the ability to have one car for each 09:44PM 24

apartment and we think, you know, is this whole 09:44PM 25


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development going to be single people? Will they 09:44PM 1

ever have somebody come to visit them? If the person 09:44PM 2

who visits them is not going to be walking there, 09:44PM 3

they're going to have a car in order to get there, 09:44PM 4

where is that car going to be parked? 09:44PM 5

And you started with parking, parking, 09:44PM 6

parking and parking, parking, parking, so then we 09:44PM 7

have to think, we have a development coming into the 09:44PM 8

central business area of which you have one car for 09:44PM 9

an apartment, if there are two people there, that 09:44PM 10

means there are going to be two cars maybe, maybe 09:44PM 11

not, but then if somebody is going to visit them, 09:44PM 12

there's another car that's going to be coming there, 09:44PM 13

and where is that car going to go? 09:45PM 14

So these are considerations that we 09:45PM 15

need to think about with our current, which I do 09:45PM 16

believe is very, very important, is the parking, the 09:45PM 17

lack of parking in our Central Business District.09:45PM 18

MR. VAGIANOS: I couldn't agree with 09:45PM 19

you more, and I don't think that we can allow 09:45PM 20

anything to be built that would place a greater 09:45PM 21

burden on the parking problem; however, there are 09:45PM 22

lots of people who don't need two cars. I think of 09:45PM 23

my children, who each had a car living here. They 09:45PM 24

both live in New York, one in Manhattan, one in 09:45PM 25


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Brooklyn. Their cars are at my house. If anybody 09:45PM 1

needs an extra car, I've got two extras. They don't 09:45PM 2

use cars anymore, they use mass transit. They talk 09:45PM 3

about coming back to Ridgewood one day. The rents 09:45PM 4

even at what the developers are talking about are 09:45PM 5

cheap in comparison. I could see, and I haven't 09:45PM 6

spoken to them about it, but I could see them saying, 09:45PM 7

wait a minute, if I could walk to the train, live in 09:46PM 8

Ridgewood, I can live there, and they probably 09:46PM 9

wouldn't need any cars, they might need one living 09:46PM 10

out here, but they certainly won't need two. 09:46PM 11

So I think that your point is well 09:46PM 12

taken, and I absolutely agree we can't add to the 09:46PM 13

parking burden, it's already overwhelming, but I 09:46PM 14

think that there are lots of people who don't need 09:46PM 15

two cars, and that's really what it will come down 09:46PM 16

to. Everyone does not live like you and I and live 09:46PM 17

now with two cars. 09:46PM 18


much, Paul.09:46PM 20

MR. VAGIANOS: Thank you. 09:46PM 21

MS. PETERS: Thank you. 09:46PM 22

MR. VAGIANOS: My pleasure. 09:46PM 23

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Amy Beirsdorf.09:46PM 24

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B-E-I-R-S-D-O-R-F, 50 S. Murray Avenue.09:47PM 1

AMY BEIRSDORF, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:47PM 2

follows:09:47PM 3

MS. BEIRSDORF: Hi. I'm a third 09:47PM 4

generation Ridgewoodian, and I say that just to let 09:47PM 5

you know how much I care about this town and how 09:47PM 6

invested I am in it. I'm going to start with a quick 09:47PM 7

story. 09:47PM 8

Last Thursday, I found myself in a 09:47PM 9

gridlock situation at the intersection of Maple and 09:47PM 10

Ridgewood Avenue. And this was disturbing to me for 09:47PM 11

two reasons: One is that it was 1:00 on a Thursday 09:47PM 12

in January, so I can't imagine why I sat through 09:47PM 13

three cycles of the light. The second reason it was 09:47PM 14

upsetting is because I was trying to get to my sick 09:47PM 15

child, who is one of over 100 fourth graders at 09:47PM 16

Ridge. 09:47PM 17

So my story makes two points: 09:48PM 18

1. We have a lot of traffic in this 09:48PM 19

town. 09:48PM 20

2. We have a lot of school-aged 09:48PM 21

children in this town. 09:48PM 22

That said, clearly there is some demand 09:48PM 23

for empty-nesting housing, and I'm all for some 09:48PM 24

development to fill that need. However, what I'm not 09:48PM 25


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convinced of is that empty-nesters are going to rent 09:48PM 1

200 to 300 apartments at the rates we're talking 09:48PM 2

about. I find it hard to believe that that's just 09:48PM 3

going to happen. 09:48PM 4

I think there are a lot of other 09:48PM 5

factors in place. They could go one way and we find 09:48PM 6

ourselves overpopulated with people with kids, and we 09:48PM 7

have to figure out something to do about the schools 09:48PM 8

or we find ourself with empty apartments that don't 09:48PM 9

command the rental rates that we're talking about, 09:48PM 10

and I'm not really sure what happens in that case 09:48PM 11

either, we just have a glut of apartments. 09:48PM 12

So what I personally would like to see 09:48PM 13

happen is definitely some development. I think we 09:48PM 14

need to be really smart about it. I think we need to 09:48PM 15

take a step back and look at the whole town, how is 09:49PM 16

anything we do going to impact the traffic, the 09:49PM 17

parking, the schools? If more schoolchildren do 09:49PM 18

come, what are we going to do about it? 09:49PM 19

I'm not saying shut the doors to more 09:49PM 20

schoolkids, but let's have a plan in place, because I 09:49PM 21

don't know where we'd put them right now. 09:49PM 22

But, again, it would be nice to have 09:49PM 23

some empty-nesting stuff. I'm totally not against 09:49PM 24

change, I'm for some development, I just think we 09:49PM 25


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need to be really responsible about it and careful 09:49PM 1

about what we do, and a giant Master Plan change like 09:49PM 2

this just seems like jumping into a big rabbit hole 09:49PM 3

that I don't know how we could get out of, if it 09:49PM 4

doesn't work out the way we want it to. 09:49PM 5



Melinda Carley.09:49PM 8

MS. CARLEY: Hello. My name is Melinda 09:49PM 9

Carley, C-A-R-L-E-Y. I live at 139 Richards Road.09:49PM 10

MELINDA CARLEY, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:49PM 11

follows: 09:49PM 12

MS. CARLEY: I just wanted to quickly 09:50PM 13

address the Chamber of Commerce, the point he made 09:50PM 14

about cars. 09:50PM 15

I moved to the village of a couple of 09:50PM 16

years ago, and I didn't know how to drive. I was 09:50PM 17

born and raised in New York City. I spent all my 09:50PM 18

time there. I had to come kicking and screaming, and 09:50PM 19

discovered I actually fell in love with Ridgewood, 09:50PM 20

but I didn't know how to drive and I had to baby step 09:50PM 21

my way to it. In fact, I have not learned to drive 09:50PM 22

on the highway yet. 09:50PM 23

And let me tell you, you can't function 09:50PM 24

living out here, if you don't know how to drive and 09:50PM 25


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if you're not driving. 09:50PM 1

I tried to buy a house that was 09:50PM 2

walkable to everything. I wanted to still be that 09:51PM 3

pedestrian who wanted to be in the Central Business 09:51PM 4

District, I wanted to continue to have that mindset 09:51PM 5

and occasionally use my car when necessary. 09:51PM 6

I discovered that that was not the 09:51PM 7

reality of living out here. And I challenge anyone 09:51PM 8

who comes up here and says that that is how people 09:51PM 9

will live who move into these complexes to try it for 09:51PM 10

a month, try it for six months, heck, try it for a 09:51PM 11

week, you will find yourself hamstrung. It just 09:51PM 12

isn't the reality of what will happen. 09:51PM 13

I have older parents who are ready to 09:51PM 14

downsize in another location. I would love to have 09:51PM 15

these upscale apartments with a washer, dryer, with 09:51PM 16

the elevator, covered parking, and two bedrooms, 09:51PM 17

bath, I would be the first to sign to move my 09:51PM 18

parents, who, in addition, are serving as surrogate 09:51PM 19

parents to my children, who I adore and want to keep 09:51PM 20

nearby. However, both of my parents would bring 09:51PM 21

their cars and use their cars, and my neighbors would 09:52PM 22

use their cars. And it's just really from somebody 09:52PM 23

who has lived a couple of years out here, not driving 09:52PM 24

at all, baby stepping up to driving locally but not 09:52PM 25


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on the highway, so somebody who literally I drive 09:52PM 1

around Ridgewood and I don't go shopping elsewhere. 09:52PM 2

It's not sustainable, it's just simply not what 09:52PM 3

anyone would do and it's not, as I speak as the 09:52PM 4

demographic, coming from New York City, as a maybe 09:52PM 5

not so young person but with that mentality coming 09:52PM 6

from Brooklyn or Manhattan, moving out, he would pick 09:52PM 7

up his car at his parents' house and start to use 09:52PM 8

them on a regular basis, just like everybody else in 09:52PM 9

town. 09:52PM 10

So I just really wanted to address that 09:52PM 11

point, because if there's one thing that even in 09:52PM 12

media is depicted, it's the people who would rather, 09:52PM 13

you have to pry your dead hands off the steering 09:52PM 14

wheel, and I never understood it until I moved out 09:53PM 15

here, because I didn't grow up driving, we didn't own 09:53PM 16

a car, I couldn't, I didn't feel comfortable 09:53PM 17

borrowing one to learn how to drive, because I didn't 09:53PM 18

want to ding it, but I am to understand the American 09:53PM 19

car culture, and unless you can shift that, that's 09:53PM 20

not going to be a change with these developments. 09:53PM 21

I'll bet you a thousand dollars of my own money, and 09:53PM 22

then you can call me on it. 09:53PM 23

So, anyway, I feel so strongly about it 09:53PM 24

because I lived that transition and change, and it 09:53PM 25


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just isn't true, people need to shop on the highways, 09:53PM 1

people need to visit their friends at various places, 09:53PM 2

they're going to do it. 09:53PM 3

Anyway, that wasn't my main thrust of 09:53PM 4

what I initially wanted to say, but, thank you very 09:53PM 5

much, maybe I can make my other points on 09:53PM 6

February 3rd. I appreciate all of your help. 09:53PM 7

Thanks. 09:53PM 8

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Okay. Ron 09:53PM 9

Simoncini.09:53PM 10

RON SIMONCINI, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:53PM 11

follows: 09:53PM 12

MR. SIMONCINI: Ron Simoncini, 09:54PM 13

S-I-M-O-N-C-I-N-I, 249 Bogart Avenue. 09:54PM 14

I'm a 20-year resident. I am working 09:54PM 15

with one of the developers, John Saraceno, my 09:54PM 16

neighbor and friend for a long time. 09:54PM 17

And I resisted doing that, because 09:54PM 18

working where you sleep is sometimes a really bad 09:54PM 19

idea -- it's actually a worse idea than they say it 09:54PM 20

is, but here we are. 09:54PM 21

So for 30 years, I've been advocating 09:54PM 22

on behalf of developers in situations like this one. 09:54PM 23

I would say probably 150 different situations in 09:54PM 24

about 70 towns. 09:55PM 25


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I have never seen a process like this. 09:55PM 1

And I think we all know that there are a lot of 09:55PM 2

dynamics in Ridgewood that are different than other 09:55PM 3

places. But one of the things that you have to have 09:55PM 4

faith in is the government. You are governing. For 09:55PM 5

people to say, well, you'll have to say yes to other 09:55PM 6

people because you said yes to these people, you know 09:55PM 7

sitting up there, that that's just not true. You are 09:55PM 8

saying yes in a very specific set of circumstances, 09:55PM 9

on properties that have four outmoded uses that will 09:55PM 10

never return, for which the impacts of the building 09:55PM 11

what you could currently build there are worse than 09:55PM 12

anything that will happen for the multi-family. It's 09:55PM 13

been demonstrated again and again by your 09:55PM 14

professionals. 09:55PM 15

I have faith in the government's 09:55PM 16

ability to predict what car parking you need. It a 09:55PM 17

state standard. It's been there for a long time.09:55PM 18

Will people who live in these houses 09:55PM 19

need cars? Of course they will. We all know that. 09:55PM 20

But when the state says here's how many 09:56PM 21

spots you need for certain types of apartments, I 09:56PM 22

have a lot of faith in that, because I've seen it 09:56PM 23

work hundreds of times. I've very seldom seen it not 09:56PM 24

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Is there some slim possibility that 09:56PM 1

some of the projections in modeling you've seen will 09:56PM 2

be somewhat different than has been projected? Of 09:56PM 3

course it is. You're dealing with averages, but the 09:56PM 4

averages that you're dealing with and what's been 09:56PM 5

proposed here are very doable. 09:56PM 6

We have 25,000 residents. We're 09:56PM 7

talking about adding no more than 500 more. We have 09:56PM 8

7,000 children in the school, we're talking about 09:56PM 9

maybe adding 70, when over the last five years we 09:56PM 10

lost 100. 09:56PM 11

So as I look at this on balance, I 09:56PM 12

certainly wouldn't have taken this job if I didn't 09:56PM 13

think the development was right for Ridgewood, 09:56PM 14

because I live here. Anything that's going to happen 09:56PM 15

to the value of my property is going to be a heck of 09:56PM 16

a lot lower or a heck of a lot higher than whatever 09:56PM 17

it is I can make working for John, so I know that 09:56PM 18

there's been some assertions that perhaps this is a 09:56PM 19

paid for testimony. 09:57PM 20

I'm here to say, I want to see this, 09:57PM 21

not because John's my friend, not because John's my 09:57PM 22

client, because I see the downtown sucking wind, 09:57PM 23

because we're not showing the insight in having the 09:57PM 24

courage to govern it the way it should be governed. 09:57PM 25


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It should be that the use that's in demand, which now 09:57PM 1

is housing, that the use that will provide us with 09:57PM 2

the best impacts, which is housing, should be the use 09:57PM 3

that we take. 09:57PM 4

And the issue of is it 22 units, is it 09:57PM 5

52 units, you've had professional advice on that. 09:57PM 6

You've seen the drawings, you've seen the plans, you 09:57PM 7

know that other buildings of the same exact size for 09:57PM 8

other uses can be built there. 09:57PM 9

Let the buildings be built, let the 09:57PM 10

impacts come, and don't let a very small set of very 09:57PM 11

narrow observations sway you from what you know you 09:57PM 12

need to do as a governing body. 09:57PM 13



Mr. Simoncini. 09:57PM 16

Jeff Coster.09:58PM 17

MR. COSTER: Jeff Coster, 505 Upper 09:58PM 18

Boulevard, Ridgewood, C-O-S-T-E-R.09:58PM 19

JEFF COSTER, having been duly sworn, testifies as 09:58PM 20

follows: 09:58PM 21

MR. COSTER: Good evening. 09:58PM 22

I have been a resident of Ridgewood for 09:58PM 23

22 years. Raised two daughters here. My youngest is 09:58PM 24

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We have three generations living in 09:58PM 1

that house. My wife's parents have lived with us. 09:58PM 2

My wife's mother lives with us now, my father-in-law 09:58PM 3

lived with us until he passed. 09:58PM 4

It's been a great place to raise 09:58PM 5

children. 09:58PM 6

And a few people have said it before, 09:58PM 7

it's a very expensive place to live. It's very 09:58PM 8

expensive to live, once your children are out of the 09:58PM 9

school system and you want to downsize, downsize your 09:59PM 10

expenses, if not your living. And currently 09:59PM 11

Ridgewood has no place to stay. So that's I think 09:59PM 12

something that is a significant matter. 09:59PM 13

I think things have changed. Times 09:59PM 14

have changed. There are people, probably people here 09:59PM 15

who are 60s, 70s, 80s, who live in the homes that 09:59PM 16

they lived in when they were in their 30s, 40s, and 09:59PM 17

raised their families, but they bought them at a time 09:59PM 18

when they could afford to keep their house. We 09:59PM 19

bought them at a time, we can't stay, we can't stay 09:59PM 20

in those homes, it's not possible. So it would be 09:59PM 21

nice to have an option for people to stay, if they 09:59PM 22

want. I think it is a fact that people of our 09:59PM 23

generation are going to fly from this community, and 09:59PM 24

that's a shame. 09:59PM 25


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The other thing about I think this 09:59PM 1

process -- not the process -- or the matter at hand, 10:00PM 2

is that times have changed. I've been here 20 years 10:00PM 3

or 22 years, actually, and the downtown was fairly 10:00PM 4

robust when we first moved in here, but for the most 10:00PM 5

part over 20 years, it's been somewhat languishing. 10:00PM 6

And obviously we have properties, and Paul, he called 10:00PM 7

it, he said they are fallow. I don't know if they 10:00PM 8

are fallow yet, but they certainly are underutilized 10:00PM 9

or not utilized. And that can't be good for the 10:00PM 10

neighborhood, it's not good for the neighbors. And 10:00PM 11

the reason for that, I believe, is because times have 10:00PM 12

simply changed. 10:00PM 13

Car dealerships are never coming back 10:00PM 14

to Ridgewood. You're not going to have four dress 10:00PM 15

shops. You're not going to have butcher shops. 10:00PM 16

You're not going to have fish markets. Those places 10:00PM 17

are gone for good, because people don't shop downtown 10:00PM 18

for those things. 10:00PM 19

So I believe that the Planning Board 10:00PM 20

and the Master Plan needs to address the fact that we 10:00PM 21

have properties, we have space that are essentially 10:01PM 22

zoned for uses that will probably never come back, 10:01PM 23

and we have to ask ourselves: How do we make use of 10:01PM 24

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vibrant downtown? 10:01PM 1

I'll give you one story that I think 10:01PM 2

speaks to that issue. 10:01PM 3

My daughter is a senior. She's been 10:01PM 4

shopping for prom dresses. I think she has purchased 10:01PM 5

and returned probably a half a dozen dresses over the 10:01PM 6

course of, you know, the last 3 or 4 months. She has 10:01PM 7

not stepped foot out of the house to buy a dress, to 10:01PM 8

try on a dress, to return a dress. She's done it 10:01PM 9

online. That's a fact of life. 10:01PM 10

Downtown is not coming back the way it 10:01PM 11

used to be, and we need to figure out a way to use 10:01PM 12

it. 10:01PM 13

Thank you.10:01PM 14


Mr. Coster. 10:01PM 16

Brian Abdoo.10:01PM 17

MR. ABDOO: Brian Abdoo, A-B-D-O-O, 308 10:02PM 18

W. Ridgewood Avenue. 10:02PM 19

BRIAN ABDOO, having been duly sworn, testifies as 10:02PM 20

follows: 10:02PM 21

MR. ABDOO: Like many people, I'd like 10:02PM 22

to start by just thanking everybody for all their 10:02PM 23

effort, both on the Planning Board and the citizens, 10:02PM 24

who all have very valid opinions on all sides. 10:02PM 25


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My friends have said, some of whom are 10:02PM 1

in this audience, and I hope they don't laugh now, 10:02PM 2

that I'm a very thorough person. And one of the 10:02PM 3

things I did when I moved out of New York is we 10:02PM 4

looked at 33 different towns. That is a fact. Took 10:02PM 5

us two years. I'm amazed my wife did not divorce me.10:03PM 6

Interesting, some people were talking 10:03PM 7

about Bronxville earlier in the evening. Bronxville 10:03PM 8

was one of the five finalists in the Abdoo family 10:03PM 9

town search. We narrowed it down and obviously I'm 10:03PM 10

here, so we ended up choosing Ridgewood. And we have 10:03PM 11

never looked back, and have been absolutely thrilled 10:03PM 12

with the decision we made since we basically moved 10:03PM 13

here. 10:03PM 14

At the time, there were basically two 10:03PM 15

reasons. 10:03PM 16

No. 1 was the schools. 10:03PM 17

And No. 2 was what we perceived to be 10:03PM 18

the community. 10:03PM 19

In my opinion, this decision that you 10:03PM 20

guys are all tasked with making, which is not an easy 10:03PM 21

one, is about not putting those two things at risk.10:03PM 22

Community, let's talk about that first. 10:03PM 23

My own fear is that the current 10:03PM 24

proposals, which go up to 55 feet high in numerous 10:04PM 25


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sections of downtown and 50 units per acre, when 12 10:04PM 1

are allowed and the average is 22, will change that. 10:04PM 2

I think this is somewhat like Valley 10:04PM 3

Hospital. 10:04PM 4

Valley went on for years, similar to 10:04PM 5

this. 10:04PM 6

Valley was very disruptive, similar to 10:04PM 7

this. 10:04PM 8

But I never met one person in this 10:04PM 9

entire town who did not feel that Valley Hospital 10:04PM 10

should be able to upgrade. The question was: What's 10:04PM 11

the size and scope of it? 10:04PM 12

I feel the exact same thing is here. 10:04PM 13

I've not met one person who thinks that 12 units an 10:04PM 14

acre should stay as the rule. What I do hear is 10:04PM 15

people saying that 50 is too much. So like Valley, I 10:04PM 16

think it's the size and the scope of it you're tasked 10:04PM 17

with dealing with. 10:05PM 18

The schools. I mentioned one of the 10:05PM 19

reasons I moved here is the schools. And I ask you 10:05PM 20

all and everybody, has anyone met anyone who lives in 10:05PM 21

Ridgewood who did not mention the schools as one of 10:05PM 22

the reasons they moved here? I never have. I'm sure 10:05PM 23

that person exists, but I've never met that person. 10:05PM 24

Do you also know anybody who thinks 10:05PM 25


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that adding close to 100 schoolkids to an already 10:05PM 1

taxed school system will be a good thing? I don't. 10:05PM 2

I think that's pretty much common sense. Again, I 10:05PM 3

think your decision is about not messing up two too 10:05PM 4

many important things that exist in this town. 10:05PM 5

Paul earlier talked about parking and 10:05PM 6

John Bonfiglio did, other people did as well. That 10:05PM 7

is the No. 1 issue when we are having things -- I 10:05PM 8

didn't realize we were under time limit, sir -- in 10:05PM 9

the Central Business District, we had a bunch of 10:05PM 10

citizen forums and that was by far most biggest topic 10:06PM 11

to be brought up. 10:06PM 12

Empty-nesters. People who spoke about 10:06PM 13

downsizing and wanting to live in Ridgewood. I would 10:06PM 14

love to stay in Ridgewood when my kids are out of 10:06PM 15

college, I think it would be great. Maybe I'm 10:06PM 16

spoiled, but to me moving from a nice single family 10:06PM 17

home into a one bedroom apartment near a busy train 10:06PM 18

track is not high on my priority list of where I 10:06PM 19

would like to move. 10:06PM 20

So what to do? 10:06PM 21

Some tonight have advocated -- 10:06PM 22

30 seconds -- some tonight have advocated for you to 10:06PM 23

approve one or maybe two of the current proposals. 10:06PM 24

In my mind, I think it would be better if instead you 10:06PM 25


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addressed all of them and did it at a density level 10:06PM 1

that would not change the community or put the 10:06PM 2

schools at risk. 10:06PM 3


Sorry, I didn't realize we were under a 10:07PM 5

limit. 10:07PM 6

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: You did well. 10:07PM 7

Thank you, Mr. Abdoo.10:07PM 8

Okay. Kristine Rusch. 10:07PM 9

MS. RUSCH: Kristine, K-R-I-S-T-I-N-E, 10:07PM 10

Rusch, R-U-S-C-H, 87 California Street.10:07PM 11

KRISTINE RUSCH, having been duly sworn, testifies as 10:07PM 12

follows:10:07PM 13

MS. RUSCH: Good evening, ladies and 10:07PM 14

gentlemen. 10:07PM 15

I also want to thank you for your 10:07PM 16

efforts. I know this is strenuous on everyone, and 10:07PM 17

although it gets stressful and heated at times, I do 10:07PM 18

appreciate everything that you've all done. 10:07PM 19

I drafted a letter after I attended the 10:07PM 20

Planning Board meeting on November 17th. I had 10:07PM 21

intended to send it to the editor at The Ridgewood 10:07PM 22

News, but I didn't get a chance to do it, but I do 10:08PM 23

have it prepared. 10:08PM 24

It basically spoke to listening to 10:08PM 25


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Blais' testimony on November 17th, where I was 10:08PM 1

concerned, because I didn't hear any testimony by 10:08PM 2

Blais as to why the board was even considering an 10:08PM 3

amendment to the Master Plan that didn't mandate an 10:08PM 4

open space component. 10:08PM 5

I believe Mr. Brancheau had testified 10:08PM 6

that the current proposed development did not include 10:08PM 7

any open space component, while according to Ralph 10:08PM 8

Curry, the chairperson of the Ridgewood Open Space 10:08PM 9

Committee, Ridgewood currently does not have enough 10:08PM 10

open space for its residents to adequately serve its 10:08PM 11

residents. 10:08PM 12

Mr. Brancheau did state that he would 10:08PM 13

respond to the will of the people, if it were based 10:08PM 14

on proper planning, not poor planning, I believe were 10:08PM 15

his words. 10:08PM 16

But I was confused, because it was my 10:09PM 17

understanding that Citizens for a Better Ridgewood 10:09PM 18

hired an attorney, Mr. Weiner, Mr. Lamb, and their 10:09PM 19

firm provided the board with a 25 page report which 10:09PM 20

detailed that the most desirable towns in Bergen, 10:09PM 21

towns comparable to Ridgewood, have maintained 10:09PM 22

densities per acre in line with or just slightly 10:09PM 23

higher than Ridgewood's current Master Plan, which 10:09PM 24

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I believe the report included research 10:09PM 1

on 72 municipalities in Bergen and analyzed the regs 10:09PM 2

with regard to residential density. And a basic 10:09PM 3

review of the density limits makes it pretty obvious 10:09PM 4

that the densities being proposed, which again this 10:09PM 5

is ad infinitum at this point, that these densities 10:09PM 6

being proposed are simply too dense for Ridgewood. 10:09PM 7

I believe that the Planning Board has 10:09PM 8

also heard testimony by Brigitte Bogart, the 10:09PM 9

Professional Planner hired by Citizens for a Better 10:09PM 10

Ridgewood, again at the expense of the residents, and 10:09PM 11

she was hired to objectively examine the impact of 10:10PM 12

the proposed development on our village, and she 10:10PM 13

issued an 18 page report to the board and detailed 10:10PM 14

how the proposed amendment would impact our schools, 10:10PM 15

safety, traffic, parking, open space, deficiency, 10:10PM 16

etc. 10:10PM 17

For example, she stated that the 10:10PM 18

proposed Master Plan amendment should be reviewed 10:10PM 19

with respect to the open space and recreational 10:10PM 20

facilities as set forth in the Master Plan documents 10:10PM 21

as well as the Open Space Committee report.10:10PM 22

And she went on to state that given the 10:10PM 23

current lack of facilities, the Planning Board should 10:10PM 24

be considering this issue, and I'm sure it is, and we 10:10PM 25


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hope that you are. 10:10PM 1

Just lastly, and I said this about a 10:10PM 2

year ago, when I first spoke before the board, any 10:10PM 3

amendment to the Master Plan should maintain the 10:10PM 4

spirit of the current Master Plan and all development 10:10PM 5

should proceed at a slow and steady rate. 10:10PM 6

Again, I'm not against any development, 10:11PM 7

I just think that the board should proceed carefully 10:11PM 8

and act judiciously, and keep in mind that you're the 10:11PM 9

stewards of our village and we're relying on you to 10:11PM 10

think of all of the residents when you make your 10:11PM 11

decision. 10:11PM 12


CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Kristine. 10:11PM 14

MS. PRICE: Can I just ask you a 10:11PM 15


You referred to two reports, and I just 10:11PM 17

want to make sure for my notes I have them down 10:11PM 18

correctly. The 18 page report that you referred to 10:11PM 19

was Ms. Bogart's report? 10:11PM 20

MS. RUSCH: Yes. 10:11PM 21

MS. PRICE: And who authored the 25 10:11PM 22

page report?10:11PM 23

MS. RUSCH: I think that was 10:11PM 24

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MS. PRICE: So it was a legal 10:11PM 1

submission?10:11PM 2

MS. RUSCH: Yes, it was. 10:11PM 3

MS. PRICE: I just want to make it 10:11PM 4

clear, because I thought you were talking about 10:11PM 5

Ms. Bogart originally.10:11PM 6

MS. RUSCH: I was speaking of two 10:11PM 7

separate reports that were issued to the board for 10:12PM 8

their consideration. 10:12PM 9

MS. PRICE: Okay. So legal and 10:12PM 10

planning?10:12PM 11

MS. RUSCH: Correct. 10:12PM 12

MS. PRICE: Okay. Thank you. 10:12PM 13

MS. RUSCH: You're welcome. 10:12PM 14


Rusch. 10:12PM 16

MS. RUSCH: You're welcome. 10:12PM 17

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Okay. Thomas 10:12PM 18

Flynn.10:12PM 19

MR. FLYNN: Thomas Flynn, 431 Wastina 10:12PM 20

Terrace, F-L-Y-N-N.10:12PM 21

THOMAS FLYNN, having been duly sworn, testifies as 10:12PM 22

follows:10:12PM 23

MR. FLYNN: I'll be brief. I know it's 10:12PM 24

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listening to people. 10:12PM 1

So a couple of points were brought up 10:12PM 2

that I just want to comment on quickly. 10:13PM 3

We keep hearing, we heard tonight that 10:13PM 4

this is going to be apartments, and these are going 10:13PM 5

to be apartments for retirees. 10:13PM 6

I made a good number of these meetings 10:13PM 7

over the past couple of years. I've heard, and I 10:13PM 8

might be wrong, that the rents we're talking about 10:13PM 9

are about $3,000 a month, I think in one of the 10:13PM 10

buildings, which means if you rent one of these, 10:13PM 11

you're going to pay $36,000 a year. 10:13PM 12

So if you're a senior who's living in 10:13PM 13

this town paying an average tax bill I think of about 10:13PM 14

$15,000, you're going to sell your house and you're 10:13PM 15

going move into an apartment where you're going to 10:13PM 16

pay more than double what your property tax is? I 10:13PM 17

mean, it seems a little hard to believe, quite 10:13PM 18

frankly, but I guess it's possible. 10:13PM 19

You know, the other thing is, and I've 10:13PM 20

heard this over and over again, that the town is 10:13PM 21

dying, the business district is dying. 10:13PM 22

Yet nobody can find a parking space. I 10:13PM 23

don't really understand that. If the town is dying, 10:13PM 24

there should be a lot of parking spaces. I don't 10:13PM 25


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know. Maybe I'm crazy. 10:13PM 1

You know, and the final thing, I grew 10:13PM 2

up in southeast Bergen County. I think the mayor is 10:14PM 3

from southeast Bergen County, he's from Fort Lee, I'm 10:14PM 4

from Palisades Park. And I liked it as a kid, it was 10:14PM 5

a working class neighborhood and people knew their 10:14PM 6

neighbors, and over time it changed dramatically and 10:14PM 7

a big reason that it changed, in my opinion, was the 10:14PM 8

density, the fact that you knew your neighbors less 10:14PM 9

and less. 10:14PM 10

Development was allowed, you know, one 10:14PM 11

family homes became four family homes or three family 10:14PM 12

homes, often not legally, I know that's not the issue 10:14PM 13

here, and over time something was lost in those 10:14PM 14

places. And that's why I left and I think that's why 10:14PM 15

a lot of people left, because that small-town feel, 10:14PM 16

that reason that you moved to a place like Ridgewood, 10:14PM 17

was lost, and that's my primary concern. 10:14PM 18

I don't know what the bottom line is 10:14PM 19

tax-wise or school-wise, I guess you can make an 10:14PM 20

argument either way, but the reason that we moved 10:15PM 21

here is something that we don't want to lose. And 10:15PM 22

that's my main concern and that's my objection to 10:15PM 23

these plans, because when I see the density that 10:15PM 24

you're talking about, I know where I came from, I 10:15PM 25


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know what that led to, and it's unlikely to me that 10:15PM 1

if you relieve on one area that it's going to stay 10:15PM 2

there, it will spread, it will mean a large part of 10:15PM 3

the town, and it will change the town in a way that 10:15PM 4

ultimately I think we will not like. 10:15PM 5

Anyway, thank you very much. 10:15PM 6


Mr. Flynn. 10:15PM 8

So I have a question before we go on, 10:15PM 9

it's about a quarter after ten. We have Mr. Watson, 10:15PM 10

Mr. McCarthy I believe, and Mr. Busley (phonetic) 10:15PM 11

still left on the list. Are all of you available? 10:15PM 12

How many need to speak tonight who are 10:15PM 13

on the list? Let me just ask it that way.10:16PM 14

Mr. McCarthy. 10:16PM 15

Anyone else? 10:16PM 16

So you wouldn't mind if we just took 10:16PM 17

Mr. McCarthy and then deferred to the 3rd for the 10:16PM 18

rest of you on the list? 10:16PM 19

Why don't we do that and then continue 10:16PM 20

on the 3rd. 10:16PM 21

So, Mr. McCarthy, why don't you come 10:16PM 22

forward and provide us with your comments. 10:16PM 23

MR. McCARTHY: James McCarthy, 153 Hope 10:16PM 24

Street, Ridgewood. M-c-C-A-R-T-H-Y.10:16PM 25


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JAMES McCARTHY, having been duly sworn, testifies as 10:16PM 1

follows:10:16PM 2

MR. McCARTHY: Thank you for all of 10:17PM 3

your time on this issue. 10:17PM 4

Where are we right now? 10:17PM 5

We have an unmet need for housing and 10:17PM 6

some underutilized properties. 10:17PM 7

We are debating a proposal which is the 10:17PM 8

functional equivalent of spot zoning, with all the 10:17PM 9

attendant legal challenges and risks of future 10:17PM 10

litigation that that entails. 10:17PM 11

We're here because of the intersection 10:17PM 12

of two things. 10:17PM 13

1. Unusual mechanism for changes to 10:17PM 14

the Master Plan, a mechanism created to consider the 10:17PM 15

hospital and bootstrap for this purpose. 10:17PM 16

More tellingly, the second critical 10:17PM 17

element is the draft ordinance itself. 10:17PM 18

The charge given to Blais enumerated 10:17PM 19

50 units and effectively put the residents on the 10:17PM 20

defensive. The burden of proof has effectively 10:17PM 21

shifted from the developers to the community. 10:17PM 22

There's not a legal judgment, but a practical 10:17PM 23

assessment of the standard negotiating practice. 10:17PM 24

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request and the board's concurrence, that started at 10:17PM 1

the max, and thus we're negotiating down, not up. 10:18PM 2

Unfortunately two other things are also 10:18PM 3

true. 10:18PM 4

We cannot pick 1 or 2, as much as I'd 10:18PM 5

like to, and even more intensely spot zone them than 10:18PM 6

what we're proposing now. 10:18PM 7

And, secondly, once we act, especially 10:18PM 8

in so much volume and so short a period of time, 10:18PM 9

going back is virtually impossible. So where do we 10:18PM 10

go from here? 10:18PM 11

We can choose to do nothing and allow 10:18PM 12

the developers to apply for use variances, as would 10:18PM 13

be normal. Not my preferred outcome. 10:18PM 14

Or two, maybe more productively, we 10:18PM 15

approve an amendment to 22 or 26 units. We add value 10:18PM 16

to the developers' property, it's in keeping with the 10:18PM 17

current character of the village, and we meet the 10:18PM 18

reasonable volume of empty-nester needs. 10:18PM 19

If applicants want higher densities, 10:18PM 20

they can apply for use variances under existing 10:18PM 21

proposals. This will restore the normal burden of 10:18PM 22

proof on the developers to prove the net benefits.10:19PM 23

In the interim, we review the entire 10:19PM 24

Master Plan in its normal cycle and develop an 10:19PM 25


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overall strategic plan incorporating a solution for 10:19PM 1

our most critical need, parking, and a rational 10:19PM 2

long-term assessment of our projected school taxes 10:19PM 3

and infrastructure needs. 10:19PM 4

In summary, we're nationally seven 10:19PM 5

years recovering from a financial crisis. That 10:19PM 6

crisis wasn't caused by unanticipated events, it was 10:19PM 7

caused by a failure of risk management and judgment 10:19PM 8

at the top of those firms. Things got out of hand. 10:19PM 9

Sound risk management dictates that you 10:19PM 10

don't take risks that are large enough to sink the 10:19PM 11

enterprise. 10:19PM 12

The amendment, as drafted currently, is 10:19PM 13

just such an outsized risk. 10:19PM 14

I too have faith in our government, in 10:19PM 15

their ability to act prudently and not recklessly, so 10:19PM 16

my ask is, please go smaller. 10:20PM 17


CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Okay. Before I 10:20PM 19

conclude this evening, I'll just give Mr. Watson one 10:20PM 20

last opportunity if he wants to speak, because we do 10:20PM 21

have another minute, if he's here. 10:20PM 22

MR. WATSON: I'm here. 10:20PM 23

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Would you like to 10:20PM 24

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MR. WATSON: I would. 10:20PM 1

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Why don't you 10:20PM 2

come forward, and then what we'll do is defer to the 10:20PM 3

3rd after Mr. Watson. 10:20PM 4

MS. PETERS: I have one question, it 10:20PM 5

was to Mr. Simoncini, but I want the residents to be 10:20PM 6

able to speak. 10:20PM 7

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Okay. 10:20PM 8

MS. PETERS: Is Mr. Simoncini still 10:20PM 9

here? 10:20PM 10

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Why don't you go 10:20PM 11

ahead and begin. 10:20PM 12

MR. WATSON: My name is Andrew Watson, 10:20PM 13

300 Highland Avenue. 10:21PM 14

ANDREW WATSON, having been duly sworn, testifies as 10:21PM 15

follows:10:21PM 16

MR. WATSON: Good evening. 10:21PM 17

One of the justifications for the 10:21PM 18

development is the revitalization of the Central 10:21PM 19

Business District, but I would argue that the 10:21PM 20

downtown is not struggling, it's vibrant. And while 10:21PM 21

the proposed buildings would help, certainly help the 10:21PM 22

businesses downtown, that help isn't necessarily 10:21PM 23

needed. The downtown is doing quite well. And if we 10:21PM 24

had some parking, it would do even better. 10:21PM 25


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My wife and I have been here for 10:21PM 1

34 years, and I've been talking about parking since I 10:22PM 2

arrived, so hopefully we can do something about that. 10:22PM 3

I grew up in Bronxville and went back 10:22PM 4

for my 50th high school reunion. And while I found 10:22PM 5

that many of the stores had changed, the town is 10:22PM 6

still a small town. They managed to keep it a small 10:22PM 7

town. Businesses change, just like they have here in 10:22PM 8

Ridgewood, things change, but there is a way to 10:22PM 9

maintain the charm and character of Ridgewood. 10:22PM 10

Another justification for the housing 10:22PM 11

is that seniors, empty-nesters like myself, would 10:22PM 12

want to move to one of these units. 10:22PM 13

I think what we need, though, is a 10:22PM 14

survey to be done to find out exactly whether people 10:22PM 15

would want to move by the railroad tracks, to one 10:23PM 16

bedroom or a studio apartment. Most of these units 10:23PM 17

would be studios or one bedrooms. Personally I 10:23PM 18

wouldn't want to move there, but I think it's 10:23PM 19

important that a survey be done, rather than just 10:23PM 20

anecdotal evidence. 10:23PM 21

My main concern is the effect of the 10:23PM 22

visual impact of the buildings on the charm and 10:23PM 23

character of the downtown and its surrounding areas. 10:23PM 24

Looking at the renderings of the 10:23PM 25


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proposed structures, it's clear that their visual 10:23PM 1

impact is not compatible with existing buildings, and 10:23PM 2

why is this? 10:23PM 3

Over two-thirds of existing properties 10:23PM 4

have a floor area ratio of 100 percent or less, yet 10:23PM 5

the proposed amendment would allow ratios of 140 to 10:23PM 6

150 percent. 10:23PM 7

We may want to consider them having a 10:23PM 8

maximum ratio of 100 or even less. 10:24PM 9

The average density of all of the 10:24PM 10

multi-family units around the downtown is about 20. 10:24PM 11

The proposed amendment calls for a max 10:24PM 12

of 30 to 40 units per acre, which would alter the 10:24PM 13

charm of the area. 10:24PM 14

I suggest that the max ratio should be 10:24PM 15

perhaps 20; 25 allowed for affordable housing. 10:24PM 16

Now the average height of the existing 10:24PM 17

buildings in the downtown appears to be about 10:24PM 18

35 feet. The proposed amendment increases the max 10:24PM 19

allowable height from 45 to 50 feet. Again, the 10:24PM 20

proposed amendment is not in keeping with what exists 10:24PM 21

now. I suggest the height be kept at 45. 10:24PM 22

Could I have 30 seconds? 10:25PM 23

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Just finish up.10:25PM 24

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architects have tried to design, their design 10:25PM 1

attempts to mitigate the huge size of these 10:25PM 2

buildings. 10:25PM 3

The problem is that even if you put a 10:25PM 4

black dress on an elephant, you're still seeing a 10:25PM 5

huge animal in front of you. 10:25PM 6


CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Thank you, Mr. 10:25PM 8

Watson. 10:25PM 9

MS. PETERS: Just one question. 10:25PM 10

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Hold on, Mr. 10:25PM 11

Watson. 10:25PM 12

MS. PETERS: Mr. Watson, just before 10:25PM 13

you leave, real quick, you said the height, keep it 10:25PM 14

45-foot. You gave a concession to affordable housing 10:25PM 15

when you spoke about your density ratio. Do you 10:25PM 16

consider any concession for affordable housing as far 10:25PM 17

as height goes? 10:25PM 18

MR. WATSON: Another five feet would be 10:25PM 19

fine. 10:25PM 20

MS. PETERS: So it would be like to 10:25PM 21

50 feet, as we discussed? 10:25PM 22

MR. WATSON: Yes.10:25PM 23

MS. PETERS: Okay. Thank you.10:26PM 24

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MR. SIMONCINI: Still under oath.10:26PM 1

MS. PETERS: Oh, this is a little off 10:26PM 2

point, because I didn't want to take up any 10:26PM 3

residents' time with this. It's because as everyone, 10:26PM 4

I respect very much everyone's participation this 10:26PM 5

evening in speaking, it was greatly appreciated. I 10:26PM 6

know all of us do appreciate your thoughts and the 10:26PM 7

research and the time that's been dedicated. 10:26PM 8

I wanted to just speak about one 10:26PM 9

comment that you made, which was, you never saw a 10:26PM 10

process like this. And I do recognize that you have 10:26PM 11

been working with development and real estate for a 10:26PM 12

great length of time and with a great other 10:26PM 13

municipalities, and I wanted to ask you if it's at 10:26PM 14

all possible, I'm not asking for that to be done 10:26PM 15

tonight, but I think it would be useful to myself if 10:26PM 16

perhaps you could detail why the process you believe 10:26PM 17

is so different that's here as opposed to the process 10:26PM 18

that you see in terms of development in other areas, 10:26PM 19

and you could name where you have done this, where it 10:26PM 20

is a different process, is it more successful, is it 10:27PM 21

less successful? 10:27PM 22

I would love to know if that could be 10:27PM 23

detailed, it could be submitted to Michael, and it 10:27PM 24

could be circulated. 10:27PM 25


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MR. SIMONCINI: You're talking about a 10:27PM 1

very significant amount of work over a long period of 10:27PM 2

time. I'm going to give a general impression, it's 10:27PM 3

all I probably can do. And I would say the reason 10:27PM 4

that I say this process is so different has to do 10:27PM 5

with the nature of the residents, you have a lot of 10:27PM 6

very well-educated, very assertive people here. You 10:27PM 7

have people who are knowledgeable about the political 10:27PM 8

opportunity to obfuscate in a situation like this, to 10:27PM 9

effectively create a situation where they delay, 10:27PM 10

delay, delay, and they're very clever at that, and I 10:27PM 11

think that sophistication level is not normal in most 10:27PM 12

towns. 10:27PM 13

I think that there's been a great deal 10:27PM 14

of sort of, well, Valley got stopped so let's stop 10:27PM 15

this too, and they're completely different things. 10:28PM 16

People can continue to compare them and bring them up 10:28PM 17

and say that the context should be viewed the same, 10:28PM 18

it's a completely different circumstance. 10:28PM 19

So those are the differences that I've 10:28PM 20

seen. I've seen this process flush out. 10:28PM 21

I'll give you an answer from tonight. 10:28PM 22

Standing in the hallway, three different couples 10:28PM 23

walked out who I expected to stand here and oppose 10:28PM 24

the development. And they're people that I know and 10:28PM 25


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we talked a little bit, and I said, "Where are you 10:28PM 1

going?" 10:28PM 2

And they said, "Well, after I heard all 10:28PM 3

the people talk tonight, now I understand what this 10:28PM 4

is really about and I'm not opposed anymore," and I 10:28PM 5

think that this process -- 10:28PM 6

AUDIENCE VOICE: Come on. 10:28PM 7

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Please.10:28PM 8

MR. SIMONCINI: They asked me a 10:28PM 9


AUDIENCE VOICE: What about all this 10:28PM 11

process? People are just as sophisticated. No, ask 10:28PM 12

somebody else to speak about -- no, let me speak. 10:28PM 13

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Please, you're 10:28PM 14

out of order. Let the attorney speak. 10:28PM 15

AUDIENCE VOICE: You're out of order. 10:28PM 16

CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Let's go, Mr. 10:28PM 17

Weiner. 10:29PM 18

MR. WEINER: I don't mind him answering 10:29PM 19

the question, but now we're talking about hearsay, 10:29PM 20

about what somebody said out in the hallway. It's 10:29PM 21

got nothing to do with this.10:29PM 22

MR. SIMONCINI: And I'm explaining it's 10:29PM 23

the nature of the opposition here has been different 10:29PM 24

than I've experienced before. 10:29PM 25


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CHAIRMAN NALBANTIAN: Michele, was your 10:29PM 1

question answered? 10:29PM 2

MS. PETERS: Yes, you answered. 10:29PM 3


Mr. Simoncini. 10:29PM 5

Okay. That concludes tonight's public 10:29PM 6

comment session. Please note that tonight's meeting 10:29PM 7

will be carried until February 3rd, without further 10:29PM 8

notice, so please come back.10:29PM 9

(Whereupon, the meeting is adjourned at 10

10:29 p.m. to be continued on 2/3/15.) 11

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I, KIM O. FURBACHER, License No. 4

XIO1042, a Certified Court Reporter, Registered Merit 5

Reporter, Certified Realtime Court Reporter, and 6

Notary Public of the State of New Jersey, hereby 7

certify that the foregoing is a verbatim record of 8

the testimony provided under oath before any court, 9

referee, board, commission or other body created by 10

statute of the State of New Jersey.11

I am not related to the parties 12

involved in this action; I have no financial 13

interest, nor am I related to an agent of or employed 14

by anyone with a financial interest in the outcome of 15

this action.16

This transcript complies with 17

Regulation 13:43-5.9 of the New Jersey Administrative 18

Code.19

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KIM O. FURBACHER, CRCR, CCR, RMR

License #XIO1042, and Notary Public 23

of New Jersey

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#XIO1042 [1] - 119:23

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$1,000 [2] - 81:6,

81:10

$15,000 [1] - 105:15

$3,000 [1] - 105:10

$36,000 [1] - 105:12

'

'50s [1] - 21:15

'the [1] - 17:4

0

01-22-15 [1] - 16:10

07070 [1] - 2:15

07645 [1] - 2:18

07653-1827 [1] - 2:12

07663 [2] - 1:24, 2:24

07677 [1] - 2:8

09 [1] - 74:12

1

1 [7] - 34:24, 47:19,

85:19, 97:17, 99:8,

108:14, 109:5

1,000 [1] - 14:4

10 [4] - 3:3, 10:19,

16:19, 28:24

10,000 [1] - 44:15

100 [6] - 4:14, 85:16,

92:11, 99:1, 113:5,

113:9

104 [2] - 4:15, 25:5

107 [1] - 4:16

10:00 [1] - 69:14

10:29 [1] - 118:11

11 [2] - 43:8, 59:21

111 [1] - 4:17

114 [1] - 4:11

12 [9] - 2:11, 3:4,

14:23, 33:12, 38:8,

38:18, 98:1, 98:14,

101:25

123 [1] - 65:14

128 [1] - 58:5

13 [1] - 35:9

133 [1] - 13:1

136 [1] - 75:11

139 [1] - 87:10

13:43-5.9 [1] - 119:18

14 [1] - 6:1

140 [1] - 113:6

15 [8] - 3:5, 34:3, 38:8,

49:23, 58:13, 74:13,

81:5, 81:6

150 [3] - 64:11, 90:24,

113:7

153 [1] - 107:24

159 [2] - 47:1, 49:4

16 [2] - 46:22, 70:13

17 [2] - 2:11, 2:15

174 [2] - 27:13, 41:6

17th [2] - 100:21,

101:1

18 [5] - 3:6, 44:4, 52:6,

102:14, 103:19

1827 [1] - 2:11

19 [1] - 55:6

1950 [1] - 30:21

1955 [1] - 21:15

1982-2013 [1] - 52:14

1993 [1] - 41:13

1:00 [1] - 85:12

2

2 [5] - 34:24, 47:19,

85:21, 97:18, 109:5

2/3/15 [1] - 118:11

20 [15] - 14:15, 23:24,

24:7, 27:5, 32:19,

36:4, 37:11, 38:22,

50:10, 58:3, 78:25,

95:3, 95:6, 113:11,

113:16

20-year [1] - 90:15

200 [6] - 33:2, 35:24,

36:14, 38:9, 38:20,

86:2

2001 [1] - 42:17

201-641-1812 [2] -

1:24, 2:24

201-843-0515 [2] -

1:25, 2:25

2012 [1] - 43:9

2013 [2] - 6:3, 6:12

2015 [1] - 1:2

2025 [1] - 30:20

208 [1] - 25:3

21 [1] - 3:7

22 [7] - 3:8, 41:14,

93:5, 93:24, 95:4,

98:2, 109:16

233 [1] - 59:18

237 [1] - 70:6

24 [2] - 15:1, 16:17

249 [1] - 90:14

25 [13] - 24:1, 24:3,

24:8, 27:5, 36:5,

37:11, 38:8, 38:18,

38:23, 71:18,

101:20, 103:22,

113:16

25,000 [2] - 74:13,

92:7

255 [2] - 18:8, 21:8

26 [1] - 109:16

260 [1] - 15:12

27 [1] - 3:9

274 [1] - 33:13

28 [1] - 3:10

28-year [1] - 27:18

280 [1] - 78:23

29 [1] - 1:2

292 [1] - 39:23

2C [1] - 27:14

2D [1] - 41:6

3

3 [5] - 25:10, 25:14,

68:13, 74:2, 96:7

30 [10] - 3:11, 31:9,

49:22, 51:1, 51:5,

51:7, 90:22, 99:23,

113:13, 113:23

300 [3] - 33:2, 86:2,

111:14

301 [1] - 2:15

302 [1] - 61:19

306 [1] - 62:20

308 [1] - 96:18

30s [1] - 94:17

30x40 [1] - 45:14

31 [1] - 52:15

328 [1] - 35:14

33 [2] - 3:12, 97:5

34 [1] - 112:2

34/0 [1] - 13:11

35 [2] - 3:13, 113:19

36 [2] - 22:23, 59:15

374 [1] - 29:6

38 [1] - 41:11

39 [1] - 3:14

3rd [12] - 5:22, 6:17,

8:7, 59:9, 69:19,

69:20, 69:23, 90:7,

107:18, 107:21,

111:4, 118:8

4

4 [7] - 25:10, 25:14,

44:15, 68:13, 74:2,

80:17, 96:7

40 [6] - 3:15, 23:17,

23:18, 50:1, 51:1,

113:13

40s [1] - 94:17

431 [1] - 104:20

44-year [1] - 29:7

45 [2] - 113:20, 113:22

45-foot [1] - 114:15

450 [2] - 51:5, 51:7

46 [1] - 3:16

47 [1] - 47:6

48 [1] - 3:17

48th [1] - 30:16

5

5 [3] - 25:10, 51:9,

80:17

50 [20] - 2:8, 2:18,

14:24, 23:17, 25:21,

31:8, 31:19, 33:3,

38:8, 49:17, 71:13,

71:14, 72:11, 72:23,

85:1, 98:1, 98:16,

108:20, 113:20,

114:22

500 [1] - 92:8

505 [4] - 1:23, 2:15,

2:23, 93:18

50th [1] - 112:5

52 [2] - 3:18, 93:6

55 [6] - 3:19, 34:25,

57:19, 65:2, 65:6,

97:25

57 [1] - 3:20

59 [1] - 3:21

6

6 [3] - 22:21, 51:9,

80:17

60 [1] - 73:4

60s [1] - 94:16

61 [1] - 3:22

65 [1] - 3:23

66 [1] - 16:16

69 [1] - 4:4

7

7,000 [1] - 92:9

7/11/19 [1] - 119:25

70 [3] - 17:1, 90:25,

92:10

70s [1] - 94:16

72 [3] - 4:5, 52:8,

102:2

75 [1] - 4:6

78 [2] - 4:7, 4:8

LAURA A. CARUCCI, C.S.R., R.P.R., L.L.C.201-641-1812

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7:40 [1] - 1:2

8

80 [1] - 17:1

80s [1] - 94:16

82 [2] - 16:10, 55:8

84 [2] - 4:9, 16:19

87 [2] - 4:10, 100:11

8:50 [1] - 59:12

9

9 [1] - 28:20

9/11 [1] - 43:4

90 [1] - 4:11

93 [1] - 4:12

96 [1] - 4:13

99 [1] - 31:3

9:00 [1] - 68:21

A

A-L-P-T-U-N-A [1] -

35:13

Abdalla [1] - 69:9

ABDALLA [1] - 1:19

Abdoo [5] - 4:13,

96:17, 96:18, 97:9,

100:8

ABDOO [4] - 96:18,

96:20, 96:22

ability [4] - 28:2,

82:24, 91:17, 110:16

able [9] - 7:6, 8:14,

34:16, 39:13, 46:15,

47:12, 53:4, 98:11,

111:7

absent [1] - 69:10

absolute [1] - 53:6

absolutely [2] - 84:13,

97:12

accepted [1] - 8:24

according [2] - 17:2,

101:8

acknowledged [1] -

25:21

acquired [1] - 14:14

acre [17] - 14:24, 15:1,

24:2, 24:3, 24:8,

27:5, 27:21, 37:11,

51:24, 71:13, 71:14,

71:25, 98:1, 98:15,

101:23, 101:25,

113:13

acres [2] - 13:25,

14:15

act [4] - 47:4, 103:9,


109:8, 110:16

action [4] - 36:2, 36:3,

119:13, 119:16

active [4] - 49:18,

52:16, 52:18, 70:16

ad [1] - 102:6

add [6] - 51:22, 53:22,

63:23, 80:17, 84:13,

109:16

added [1] - 50:7

adding [5] - 29:16,

62:5, 92:8, 92:10,

99:1

addition [4] - 43:7,

50:9, 71:17, 88:19

additional [4] - 14:4,

14:12, 19:17, 66:13

address [13] - 7:5,

10:17, 18:6, 21:5,

46:12, 46:24, 49:2,

57:8, 66:15, 70:2,

87:14, 89:11, 95:21

addressed [2] - 64:22,

100:1

adds [1] - 60:17

adequately [1] -

101:11

adjourned [1] - 118:10

adjustment [2] - 33:6,

33:7

administration [1] -

7:19

Administrative [1] -

119:18

admit [1] - 68:8

adore [1] - 88:20

adult [1] - 42:11

advancements [1] -

50:13

advances [1] - 44:16

adverse [1] - 29:13

adversely [1] - 26:13

advice [2] - 26:20,

93:6

advocacy [1] - 26:20

advocated [2] - 99:22,

99:23

advocating [3] - 26:1,

75:13, 90:22

aesthetic [1] - 19:24

affect [2] - 56:8, 77:17

affected [1] - 48:5

afford [1] - 94:19

affordable [6] - 19:18,

34:13, 66:7, 113:16,

114:15, 114:17

Affuso [5] - 3:6, 18:4,

18:7, 20:19, 20:20

AFFUSO [5] - 18:7,

18:8, 18:9, 18:11,

20:24

afterthought [1] -

62:11

age [2] - 56:20, 57:20

age-restricted [1] -

57:20

aged [5] - 32:14,

40:16, 81:7, 81:11,

85:21

agent [1] - 119:14

ages [1] - 54:20

ago [9] - 13:6, 32:19,

43:9, 44:5, 49:17,

50:1, 59:22, 87:17,

103:3

agree [7] - 28:6, 39:9,

47:21, 75:16, 75:17,

83:19, 84:13

agreed [1] - 13:9

AH-2 [1] - 1:5

ahead [2] - 28:21,

111:12

aim [1] - 36:4

air [2] - 42:23, 43:20

AJ [1] - 15:9

akin [1] - 10:1

allocate [1] - 58:13

allotted [2] - 7:23,

82:16

allow [7] - 5:9, 9:16,

54:21, 59:9, 83:20,

109:12, 113:6

allowable [1] - 113:20

allowed [5] - 54:3,

54:7, 98:2, 106:11,

113:16

allowing [2] - 10:9,

77:2

allows [1] - 101:25

almost [4] - 6:1, 13:6,

23:24, 75:17

Alptuna [3] - 3:13,

35:9, 36:20

ALPTUNA [7] - 35:11,

35:15, 35:17, 37:14,

38:17, 38:19, 38:24

Altano [1] - 69:9

ALTANO [1] - 1:18

alter [1] - 113:13

alternative [2] - 51:14,

55:14

amazed [1] - 97:6

amend [3] - 5:20,

25:16, 25:17

amendment [16] -

27:6, 75:14, 76:12,

76:16, 79:11, 79:15,

101:4, 102:15,

102:19, 103:4,

109:16, 110:13,

113:6, 113:12,

113:19, 113:21

amenities [2] - 72:1,

74:9

American [1] - 89:19

amount [7] - 8:11,

40:12, 51:24, 54:23,

77:18, 79:9, 116:2

Amy [3] - 4:9, 84:24,

84:25

AMY [1] - 85:2

analyst [1] - 62:20

analyzed [1] - 102:2

ANDREW [1] - 111:15

Andrew [2] - 4:17,

111:13

anecdotal [1] - 112:21

ANGUS [5] - 55:7,

55:9, 55:11, 57:22

Angus [3] - 3:19, 55:6,

58:1

animal [1] - 114:6

Ann [1] - 52:6

Anne [3] - 3:18, 52:7,

55:5

ANNE [2] - 52:7, 52:10

answer [2] - 66:9,

116:22

answered [3] - 65:21,

118:2, 118:3

answering [1] -

117:19

answers [1] - 65:22

ANTHONY [1] - 15:13

Anthony [2] - 3:5,

15:11

Anthony's [1] - 5:16

anticipate [1] - 9:20

anyway [4] - 57:16,

89:24, 90:4, 107:6

apartment [25] -

13:20, 19:7, 23:23,

30:5, 33:24, 42:4,

42:19, 43:10, 43:23,

47:11, 48:8, 50:6,

53:10, 54:12, 57:13,

77:20, 81:18, 82:2,

82:4, 82:7, 82:25,

83:10, 99:18,

105:16, 112:17

Apartments [4] - 22:3,

22:4, 27:23, 45:4

apartments [44] -

13:8, 14:4, 22:7,

24:4, 24:10, 24:13,

25:13, 29:9, 29:16,

30:20, 31:10, 31:13,

31:18, 31:23, 32:14,

32:20, 32:23, 43:19,

43:20, 44:6, 46:1,

50:24, 51:22, 54:22,

62:21, 72:1, 72:6,

72:15, 76:4, 76:6,

77:6, 77:18, 79:19,

81:3, 81:10, 81:11,

82:9, 86:2, 86:9,

86:12, 88:16, 91:22,

105:5, 105:6

appeal [1] - 19:24

appear [1] - 6:8

applaud [1] - 9:11

applause [4] - 27:9,

36:21, 36:22, 65:11

appliances [1] - 50:21

applicant [1] - 13:25

applicants [3] - 13:17,

13:22, 109:20

application [1] - 76:15

applications [1] -

13:12

apply [2] - 109:13,

109:21

applying [1] - 30:8

appreciate [5] - 12:7,

48:20, 90:7, 100:19,

115:7

appreciated [1] -

115:6

appreciation [1] - 5:4

appropriate [5] - 8:17,

15:4, 50:8, 53:9,

68:16

approve [6] - 23:11,

54:21, 56:3, 74:2,

99:24, 109:16

Apt [2] - 27:14, 41:6

architects [1] - 114:1

architectural [1] -

50:13

architecture [2] -

13:21, 50:24

area [8] - 29:18, 51:25,

54:22, 60:25, 83:9,

107:2, 113:5, 113:14

areas [4] - 15:5, 16:18,

112:24, 115:19

argue [5] - 35:23,

35:24, 35:25, 39:15,

111:20

argument [5] - 35:23,

36:1, 39:16, 40:6,

106:21

arguments [1] - 14:20

Aronsohn [1] - 69:7

ARONSOHN [4] -

1:12, 38:15, 38:18,

38:21

arrangement [1] - 5:8

arrived [1] - 112:3

article [3] - 16:9,


121

16:11, 16:14

articles [1] - 59:24

artisans [1] - 74:21

aspect [1] - 9:23

aspirations [1] - 30:13

assemble [1] - 13:25

assertion [1] - 10:4

assertions [2] - 10:7,

92:19

assertive [1] - 116:7

assessment [3] -

26:12, 108:24, 110:3

assistance [1] - 6:9

associated [1] - 68:5

ASSOCIATES [1] -

2:13

association [1] -

16:16

assume [1] - 57:23

AT [1] - 1:2

atmosphere [1] -

13:18

attack [1] - 56:5

attempts [1] - 114:2

attendant [1] - 108:10

attended [3] - 21:16,

72:5, 100:20

attorney [4] - 8:16,

10:3, 101:19, 117:15

attorneys [2] - 10:2,

10:9

attract [5] - 31:11,

31:22, 32:8, 32:15,

74:17

attracted [1] - 32:2

audience [1] - 97:2

AUDIENCE [3] -

117:7, 117:11,

117:16

authored [1] - 103:22

available [2] - 9:4,

107:12

Avenue [14] - 10:19,

13:1, 15:12, 27:20,

41:12, 54:9, 61:20,

62:20, 63:11, 75:11,

85:1, 90:14, 96:19,

111:14

avenue [1] - 85:11

average [5] - 23:13,

98:2, 105:14,

113:10, 113:17

averages [2] - 92:4,

92:5

aware [1] - 9:18

ax [1] - 30:7


B

B-3-R [1] - 1:5

B-A-N-E-Y [1] - 75:10

B-O-N-F-I-G-L-I-O [1]

- 70:5

baby [3] - 44:14,

87:21, 88:25

baby-boomer [1] -

44:14

backed [1] - 63:8

backs [1] - 19:15

bad [4] - 5:6, 11:15,

80:10, 90:19

balance [1] - 92:12

balconies [6] - 45:7,

45:17, 45:18, 45:24,

46:4, 46:20

balcony [2] - 46:16,

46:17

ball [1] - 20:13

Baney [4] - 4:6, 75:7,

75:10, 78:12

BANEY [3] - 75:8,

75:10, 78:4

banking [1] - 64:19

barely [1] - 82:20

based [3] - 41:20,

60:23, 101:14

basic [3] - 42:24, 56:2,

102:3

basis [2] - 51:13, 89:9

bath [2] - 43:20, 88:18

baths [1] - 42:22

BEATTIE [1] - 2:17

beautiful [1] - 50:15

became [1] - 106:12

bedroom [8] - 43:13,

43:14, 43:15, 43:20,

81:4, 99:18, 112:17

bedrooms [3] - 42:22,

88:17, 112:18

beg [1] - 82:5

began [2] - 6:3, 44:4

begin [6] - 6:13, 6:23,

7:18, 10:12, 69:3,

111:12

beginning [3] - 6:16,

29:24, 68:8

behalf [2] - 79:14,

90:23

behind [1] - 15:17

BEING [1] - 1:9

BEIRSDORF [4] -

84:25, 85:1, 85:2,

85:4

Beirsdorf [3] - 4:9,

84:24, 84:25

below [1] - 17:19

beneficial [5] - 11:25,

22:16, 32:25, 33:6,

72:7

benefit [6] - 18:22,

20:8, 20:9, 32:17,

44:2

benefits [2] - 66:17,

109:23

Bergen [7] - 11:5,

14:8, 64:8, 101:21,

102:2, 106:3, 106:4

Berson [1] - 17:2

best [8] - 5:6, 11:5,

18:24, 26:10, 36:3,

47:13, 66:4, 93:3

bet [2] - 75:16, 89:22

Better [1] - 102:10

better [6] - 56:12,

66:14, 68:2, 99:25,

101:18, 111:25

between [5] - 20:2,

37:11, 38:8, 56:15,

63:10

beyond [1] - 69:15

big [10] - 33:4, 38:7,

40:18, 40:20, 64:18,

68:12, 76:15, 81:19,

87:3, 106:8

bigger [1] - 73:16

biggest [2] - 67:13,

99:11

BIGOS [1] - 1:14

Bigos [1] - 69:6

bill [1] - 105:14

billboards [1] - 16:4

bit [9] - 11:15, 24:19,

48:3, 49:21, 66:19,

68:4, 69:15, 70:12,

117:1

black [1] - 114:5

Blais [4] - 25:20,

63:15, 101:3, 108:19

Blais' [3] - 23:6, 62:18,

101:1

blocks [1] - 18:17

blueprint [1] - 68:15

Board [20] - 2:9, 5:5,

9:25, 10:3, 13:6,

13:8, 15:20, 20:15,

21:12, 24:14, 24:24,

48:22, 52:17, 76:9,

77:4, 95:20, 96:24,

100:21, 102:8,

102:24

BOARD [3] - 1:1, 1:9,

2:4

board [17] - 6:14, 6:22,

8:24, 9:4, 9:6, 9:18,

26:24, 41:23, 41:24,

62:3, 101:3, 101:20,

102:14, 103:3,

103:8, 104:8, 119:10

board's [4] - 5:20, 9:9,

9:10, 109:1

boards [1] - 34:12

body [2] - 93:13,

119:10

Bogart [3] - 90:14,

102:9, 104:6

Bogart's [1] - 103:20

boils [1] - 60:4

Bonfiglio [5] - 4:4,

69:25, 70:5, 73:1,

99:7

BONFIGLIO [3] - 70:4,

70:7, 70:9

boo [1] - 9:11

bookend [2] - 37:18,

55:21

boomer [1] - 44:14

bootstrap [1] - 108:16

border [1] - 60:8

born [2] - 21:15, 87:18

borrowing [1] - 89:18

BOSCH [4] - 61:18,

61:19, 61:21, 61:23

Bosch [3] - 3:22,

61:17, 61:19

bottom [1] - 106:19

bought [3] - 60:12,

94:18, 94:20

Boulevard [2] - 2:8,

93:19

box [1] - 64:18

BOX [2] - 1:23, 2:23

Box [1] - 2:11

boy [2] - 11:19, 49:19

bracket [1] - 35:1

Brancheau [2] -

101:6, 101:13

break [2] - 59:14,

68:21

Brian [3] - 4:13, 96:17,

96:18

BRIAN [1] - 96:20

bridge [1] - 82:21

brief [2] - 35:17,

104:24

Brigitte [1] - 102:9

bring [7] - 28:9, 54:17,

66:25, 74:23, 77:22,

88:21, 116:17

brings [1] - 43:16

Broad [1] - 33:14

broaden [2] - 54:16,

54:18

Brogan [1] - 30:11

Bronxville [6] - 30:3,

57:9, 57:12, 97:8,

112:4

BROOK [2] - 1:24,

2:24

Brooklyn [2] - 84:1,

89:7

Brookside [2] - 27:20,

75:11

brothers [1] - 51:6

brought [3] - 50:25,

99:12, 105:2

BRUINOOGE [2] -

2:13, 2:14

Brunswick [1] - 17:12

build [7] - 23:18, 25:8,

56:2, 72:1, 72:14,

72:17, 91:12

builders [1] - 16:16

building [10] - 24:11,

25:5, 27:24, 44:5,

53:10, 54:12, 55:17,

55:22, 72:6, 91:11

buildings [15] - 13:20,

25:1, 25:11, 30:5,

45:10, 50:6, 57:13,

93:8, 93:10, 105:11,

111:22, 112:23,

113:2, 113:18, 114:3

built [9] - 24:5, 25:7,

31:11, 37:7, 47:19,

83:21, 93:9, 93:10

bunch [1] - 99:10

burden [7] - 19:13,

54:1, 63:23, 83:22,

84:14, 108:21,

109:22

burdens [1] - 56:17

Burgis [1] - 25:23

Burnside [1] - 21:8

bus [1] - 63:20

business [10] - 11:7,

23:24, 29:10, 34:3,

39:7, 41:20, 76:24,

79:24, 83:9, 105:22

Business [9] - 29:17,

53:23, 75:19, 79:2,

79:7, 83:18, 88:4,

99:10, 111:20

businesses [4] - 39:8,

75:22, 111:23, 112:8

busley [1] - 107:11

busy [1] - 99:18

butcher [1] - 95:16

buy [7] - 16:13, 42:19,

61:4, 71:12, 77:25,

88:2, 96:8

buying [1] - 66:24

BY [4] - 2:7, 2:10,

2:14, 2:17


122

C

C-A-R-L-E-Y [1] -

87:10

C-O-S-T-E-R [1] -

93:19

C.S.R [2] - 1:22, 2:22

CAFARELLI [1] - 2:4

calculation [1] - 62:24

calculations [1] -

62:18

calendars [1] - 5:23

Cali [1] - 26:3

California [2] - 58:5,

100:11

cancelling [1] - 5:11

cannot [3] - 8:23,

63:15, 109:5

capital [1] - 15:3

car [17] - 70:20, 82:10,

82:20, 82:24, 83:4,

83:5, 83:9, 83:13,

83:14, 83:24, 84:2,

88:6, 89:8, 89:17,

89:20, 91:17, 95:14

care [4] - 44:16, 48:16,

53:4, 85:6

careful [1] - 87:1

carefully [2] - 17:10,

103:8

Carley [3] - 4:10, 87:8,

87:10

CARLEY [3] - 87:9,

87:11, 87:13

Carmel [1] - 21:16

carpools [1] - 54:15

carried [1] - 118:8

cars [20] - 50:21,

53:24, 77:19, 78:2,

82:4, 82:7, 82:9,

82:15, 83:11, 83:23,

84:1, 84:3, 84:10,

84:16, 84:18, 87:15,

88:22, 88:23, 91:20

cart [1] - 65:24

CARUCCI [2] - 1:22,

2:22

case [5] - 9:3, 29:22,

76:20, 77:2, 86:11

causalities [1] - 61:7

caused [3] - 54:10,

110:7, 110:8

caution [2] - 26:5,

26:21

cautious [3] - 27:3,

68:6, 76:13

CBD [2] - 17:20, 17:23

CBR [8] - 5:5, 5:13,

8:13, 8:15, 8:16,


8:17, 23:2, 24:21

CCR [1] - 119:22

center [2] - 16:20,

16:22

Central [10] - 29:10,

29:16, 53:23, 75:19,

79:2, 79:6, 83:18,

88:4, 99:10, 111:19

central [2] - 42:23,

83:9

certain [8] - 6:14,

29:20, 63:7, 63:10,

63:12, 71:9, 77:1,

91:22

certainly [10] - 9:8,

34:25, 38:5, 38:6,

38:11, 75:21, 84:11,

92:13, 95:9, 111:22

CERTIFIED [2] - 1:23,

2:23

Certified [2] - 119:5,

119:6

certify [1] - 119:8

chains [1] - 80:2

Chairman [4] - 13:8,

28:25, 69:7, 69:8

CHAIRMAN [69] -

1:10, 1:11, 5:1, 12:6,

12:21, 15:8, 18:2,

20:18, 21:2, 22:19,

27:8, 28:18, 28:22,

30:23, 33:10, 35:7,

36:19, 38:22, 39:19,

39:21, 41:1, 44:8,

44:23, 45:1, 45:21,

46:2, 46:13, 46:21,

48:23, 51:19, 52:4,

55:4, 57:25, 59:1,

61:15, 65:10, 68:18,

68:24, 69:11, 72:25,

75:5, 78:3, 78:11,

81:22, 84:19, 84:24,

87:7, 90:9, 93:15,

96:15, 100:7,

103:14, 104:15,

104:18, 107:7,

110:19, 110:24,

111:2, 111:8,

111:11, 113:24,

114:8, 114:11,

114:25, 117:8,

117:14, 117:17,

118:1, 118:4

chairperson [1] -

101:9

challenge [1] - 88:8

challenges [1] -

108:10

Chamber [4] - 41:21,

79:3, 79:4, 87:14

chamber [2] - 78:15,

79:15

chance [5] - 8:10,

13:9, 15:3, 15:4,

100:23

change [28] - 7:11,

11:7, 11:10, 11:15,

23:19, 29:14, 35:24,

38:2, 40:20, 50:3,

57:5, 64:9, 66:12,

67:8, 73:10, 74:1,

77:1, 78:8, 86:25,

87:2, 89:21, 89:25,

98:2, 100:2, 107:4,

112:8, 112:9

changed [10] - 43:11,

74:12, 94:14, 94:15,

95:3, 95:13, 106:7,

106:8, 112:6

changes [5] - 26:1,

57:7, 68:10, 73:8,

108:14

chapter [1] - 42:16

character [3] - 109:18,

112:10, 112:24

charge [2] - 47:22,

108:19

CHARLES [1] - 1:10

charm [3] - 112:10,

112:23, 113:14

cheap [1] - 84:6

cherished [1] - 13:18

Chestnut [2] - 2:18,

12:10

chief [1] - 17:2

child [4] - 37:6, 42:15,

85:16

children [19] - 21:23,

48:7, 53:2, 60:15,

60:17, 60:18, 60:20,

60:21, 67:21, 81:7,

81:11, 83:24, 85:22,

88:20, 92:9, 94:6,

94:9

children's [1] - 61:12

chockfull [1] - 30:5

choose [1] - 109:12

choosing [1] - 97:11

Church [1] - 5:9

CIPRIANO [4] - 15:10,

15:11, 15:13, 15:15

Cipriano [4] - 3:5,

15:9, 15:11, 18:3

circulated [1] - 115:25

circumstance [1] -

116:19

circumstances [1] -

91:9

cities [3] - 17:7, 17:11,

23:25

citizen [2] - 42:3,

99:11

citizen's [1] - 15:17

Citizen's [1] - 15:18

citizens [3] - 40:3,

96:24, 101:18

Citizens [1] - 102:10

City [3] - 63:3, 87:18,

89:5

city [7] - 16:20, 16:22,

24:1, 29:21, 32:4,

63:4, 63:5

civic [1] - 41:18

civic-minded [1] -

41:18

clapping [2] - 29:1,

29:2

clarify [1] - 38:16

clarifying [1] - 57:24

class [4] - 19:18,

21:17, 60:23, 106:6

classism [1] - 60:22

cleaning [1] - 28:14

clear [2] - 104:5, 113:1

clearly [3] - 15:22,

43:17, 85:23

clever [1] - 116:11

client [2] - 26:2, 92:23

Clinton [1] - 21:20

close [3] - 5:11, 60:8,

99:1

closest [1] - 66:8

closing [1] - 81:13

coach [1] - 49:23

Code [1] - 119:19

college [1] - 99:16

comfortable [1] -

89:17

coming [13] - 5:3,

43:15, 46:23, 62:3,

67:20, 79:19, 83:8,

83:13, 84:4, 89:5,

89:6, 95:14, 96:11

command [1] - 86:10

COMMENCING [1] -

1:2

comment [15] - 5:19,

6:13, 6:20, 6:21,

6:22, 8:9, 8:11, 10:5,

63:16, 68:25, 69:2,

69:22, 105:3,

115:10, 118:7

commented [1] -

57:19

comments [8] - 6:4,

7:9, 18:12, 37:24,

39:1, 39:10, 62:10,

107:23

Commerce [4] - 41:22,

79:3, 79:4, 87:14

commerce [2] - 56:9,

78:15

commercial [14] -

19:12, 19:13, 19:17,

26:4, 39:3, 39:5,

64:7, 64:9, 66:25,

71:18, 74:9, 74:17,

79:1, 79:22

commission [1] -

119:10

Commission [2] -

41:23, 119:24

Committee [1] -

101:10

committee [2] - 64:5,

102:22

committees [1] -

34:12

committing [1] - 62:8

commodity [1] - 24:11

common [3] - 44:20,

64:25, 99:3

communicate [1] - 5:7

communities [2] -

11:5, 51:18

community [15] -

14:8, 18:23, 24:7,

26:10, 26:14, 52:16,

53:7, 54:17, 54:19,

79:22, 94:24, 97:19,

97:23, 100:2, 108:22

Community [1] - 42:9

commute [1] - 82:18

commuting [1] - 63:21

comp [1] - 25:6

company [1] - 17:3

comparable [1] -

101:22

compare [2] - 30:1,

116:17

compared [1] - 29:20

comparison [1] - 84:6

compatible [1] - 113:2

compelling [1] - 25:18

complain [2] - 49:19,

61:6

completely [5] -

25:11, 31:17, 73:7,

116:16, 116:19

Complex [1] - 2:14

complex [2] - 43:2,

43:11

complexes [4] -

33:21, 33:24, 43:19,

88:10

complicated [2] -

66:9, 80:22

complies [1] - 119:17

component [2] -

101:5, 101:8


123

comprehensive [1] -

26:11

compromise [5] -

14:22, 14:24, 20:1,

36:4, 65:5

compromising [1] -

12:2

comps [1] - 24:25

concern [9] - 17:9,

26:23, 40:4, 40:18,

43:17, 64:15,

106:18, 106:23,

112:22

concerned [5] - 48:3,

53:16, 65:23, 67:19,

101:2

concerning [1] - 44:5

concerns [3] - 26:25,

67:13, 68:12

concession [2] -

114:15, 114:17

conclude [3] - 72:20,

78:4, 110:20

concluded [1] - 18:1

concludes [1] - 118:6

conclusion [3] - 7:25,

18:15, 64:24

conclusions [2] -

77:16, 78:5

concurrence [1] -

109:1

conditioning [2] -

42:23, 43:21

conditions [1] - 17:11

condominiums [1] -

17:6

conducted [1] - 5:24

conferring [1] - 5:12

confidence [2] -

66:13, 67:15

confuse [1] - 72:13

confused [1] - 101:17

congratulate [1] -

49:10

consequences [2] -

56:13, 67:7

conservative [1] -

40:21

consider [4] - 36:11,

108:15, 113:8,

114:17

consideration [7] -

5:20, 9:7, 61:13,

62:16, 65:7, 82:22,

104:9

considerations [2] -

38:6, 83:15

considered [1] - 8:13

considering [2] -

101:3, 102:25


consistent [1] - 8:11

constantly [2] - 12:4,

14:11

constrained [1] -

26:22

construction [1] -

56:7

construed [1] - 71:1

context [1] - 116:18

continue [9] - 8:6,

36:6, 53:6, 59:8,

69:14, 69:20, 88:5,

107:20, 116:17

continued [1] - 118:11

continues [1] - 38:5

contracts [1] - 67:17

contribute [1] - 63:16

contributions [1] -

75:25

control [3] - 57:4,

57:13, 57:15

controversy [1] -

14:19

conversation [2] -

42:6, 68:6

conversations [2] -

67:19, 68:3

convinced [1] - 86:1

cope [1] - 29:13

correct [4] - 31:1,

45:11, 78:6, 104:12

correctly [1] - 103:19

Coster [4] - 4:12,

93:17, 93:18, 96:16

COSTER [3] - 93:18,

93:20, 93:22

costs [2] - 66:16,

66:18

Council [1] - 8:12

Councilwoman [1] -

69:7

COUNCILWOMAN [1]

- 1:13

counsel [3] - 6:9,

8:14, 8:21

Counsel [4] - 2:9,

2:12, 2:16, 2:19

county [1] - 49:24

County [2] - 106:3,

106:4

couple [7] - 23:6,

34:2, 73:22, 87:16,

88:24, 105:2, 105:8

couples [1] - 116:23

courage [1] - 92:25

course [6] - 36:3,

42:10, 42:12, 91:20,

92:4, 96:7

court [4] - 10:2, 52:9,

78:23, 119:9

COURT [2] - 1:23,

2:23

Court [2] - 119:5,

119:6

cover [2] - 59:23

covered [3] - 42:23,

43:21, 88:17

CR [1] - 1:5

crafts [1] - 74:21

crazy [2] - 47:16,

106:1

CRCR [1] - 119:22

create [1] - 116:10

created [2] - 108:15,

119:10

creating [1] - 65:24

creative [1] - 17:21

credit [1] - 62:20

crime [1] - 62:8

criminal [1] - 62:4

crisis [2] - 110:6,

110:7

critical [2] - 108:17,

110:2

cross [2] - 9:5, 82:21

crux [1] - 77:9

culture [1] - 89:20

curbside [1] - 58:19

current [20] - 23:12,

27:6, 38:13, 38:19,

50:4, 54:3, 54:7,

77:5, 78:15, 78:16,

79:2, 79:5, 83:16,

97:24, 99:24, 101:7,

101:24, 102:24,

103:5, 109:18

Curry [1] - 101:9

customary [1] - 8:10

customers [2] - 61:8,

61:9

cut [1] - 34:15

cutting [1] - 40:21

cycle [1] - 109:25

cycles [1] - 85:14

D

D'ARMINIO [1] - 2:6

D-A-M-I-A-N-O [1] -

33:14

Damiano [4] - 3:12,

33:12, 33:13, 35:8

DAMIANO [3] - 33:13,

33:15, 33:17

dance [1] - 74:20

dangerous [3] - 36:15,

36:16, 38:1

date [2] - 38:7, 50:4

daughter [1] - 96:4

daughters [1] - 93:24

daunting [1] - 42:8

David [4] - 3:8, 17:2,

22:21, 22:22

DAVID [2] - 1:16,

22:24

Dayton [5] - 11:13,

12:10, 18:12, 20:22,

33:22

dead [2] - 74:5, 89:14

deal [2] - 33:4, 116:14

dealerships [2] -

70:21, 95:14

dealing [4] - 49:11,

92:4, 92:5, 98:18

deals [1] - 56:7

debating [1] - 108:8

decade [1] - 14:16

decades [2] - 76:2,

77:24

December [2] - 6:3,

6:12

decide [2] - 30:18,

64:5

decided [3] - 42:18,

43:9, 49:18

decision [10] - 5:13,

9:9, 27:4, 64:6,

64:13, 67:3, 97:13,

97:20, 99:4, 103:12

decision-making [1] -

9:9

decisions [2] - 26:13,

32:6

declare [1] - 73:18

decline [2] - 29:11,

29:18

dedicated [1] - 115:8

deep [1] - 53:8

deeply [1] - 76:19

defensive [1] - 108:21

defer [2] - 78:15,

111:3

deferred [1] - 107:18

deficiency [1] - 102:16

deficient [1] - 14:16

defined [1] - 60:22

definitely [4] - 24:3,

27:4, 39:6, 86:14

degree [2] - 76:18,

77:1

delay [4] - 61:5,

116:10, 116:11

demand [6] - 17:5,

40:11, 76:10, 78:6,

85:23, 93:1

demographic [1] -

89:5

demonstrated [1] -

91:14

DEN [1] - 61:19

den [6] - 3:22, 61:17,

61:18, 61:19, 61:21,

61:23

dense [5] - 15:25,

16:5, 17:9, 23:10,

102:7

densities [5] - 24:1,

101:23, 102:5,

102:6, 109:20

density [28] - 15:1,

18:18, 23:11, 23:13,

25:18, 26:1, 28:6,

28:8, 38:20, 38:22,

40:22, 43:16, 58:9,

68:9, 71:5, 71:8,

72:22, 73:15, 73:24,

77:2, 77:7, 100:1,

102:3, 102:4, 106:9,

106:24, 113:10,

114:16

Denyeau [3] - 3:18,

52:6, 52:8

DENYEAU [4] - 52:7,

52:8, 52:10, 52:12

department [1] - 70:22

depicted [1] - 89:13

DESCRIPTION [1] -

4:21

deserves [1] - 61:13

design [3] - 41:20,

114:1

designating [1] -

57:20

designed [2] - 31:11,

31:22

desirable [2] - 76:14,

101:21

desperately [1] -

19:11

destroy [1] - 13:17

detail [1] - 115:17

detailed [3] - 101:21,

102:14, 115:24

determining [1] - 37:7

detrimental [1] - 62:14

develop [3] - 73:14,

80:25, 109:25

developer [3] - 18:24,

55:21, 71:16

developers [27] -

11:13, 12:2, 20:2,

20:4, 23:15, 24:17,

25:8, 25:24, 28:9,

30:13, 35:24, 57:19,

63:15, 64:4, 71:19,

73:11, 73:13, 73:22,

79:19, 80:24, 81:17,

84:5, 90:16, 90:23,

108:22, 109:13,


124

109:23

developers' [4] - 16:3,

24:14, 55:15, 109:17

development [38] -

18:12, 18:16, 18:18,

18:21, 18:25, 19:9,

19:16, 19:23, 20:7,

20:23, 20:25, 22:14,

25:3, 25:17, 32:10,

32:24, 61:24, 64:7,

76:18, 76:20, 79:22,

80:23, 82:23, 83:1,

83:8, 85:25, 86:14,

86:25, 92:14, 101:7,

102:13, 103:5,

103:7, 106:11,

111:19, 115:12,

115:19, 116:25

developments [17] -

11:14, 15:6, 22:10,

24:9, 25:5, 25:19,

26:22, 32:16, 40:7,

40:22, 51:10, 61:9,

64:20, 74:3, 80:8,

82:14, 89:21

dictates [1] - 110:10

differ [1] - 76:4

difference [4] - 38:8,

44:19, 60:12, 62:16

differences [1] -

116:20

different [12] - 51:10,

90:24, 91:3, 92:3,

97:5, 115:18,

115:21, 116:5,

116:16, 116:19,

116:23, 117:24

differently [1] - 76:11

difficult [2] - 39:11,

71:15

dig [3] - 36:9, 39:12,

39:14

digits [2] - 37:20,

37:21

dine [1] - 34:18

ding [1] - 89:19

dinner [1] - 58:12

directing [1] - 54:6

direction [1] - 76:14

director [1] - 14:9

discovered [2] -

87:20, 88:7

discrimination [1] -

60:22

discuss [4] - 9:7,

46:20, 75:1, 76:24

discussed [2] - 74:22,

114:22

discussing [1] - 76:6

discussion [1] - 31:20


disheartening [1] -

34:3

dispute [1] - 72:8

disrespectful [1] -

10:8

disruptions [1] - 56:8

disruptive [1] - 98:7

distance [1] - 16:5

district [6] - 14:7,

21:18, 29:10, 60:9,

66:25, 105:22

District [9] - 29:17,

53:23, 75:20, 79:2,

79:7, 83:18, 88:5,

99:10, 111:20

DISTRICTS [1] - 1:6

disturbing [1] - 85:11

diversity [1] - 53:22

divorce [1] - 97:6

doable [1] - 92:6

Dockray [1] - 69:8

DOCKRAY [8] - 1:15,

44:25, 45:3, 45:6,

45:9, 45:16, 45:19,

45:22

document [1] - 9:8

documents [2] - 8:18,

102:21

dollar [1] - 34:8

dollars [2] - 19:22,

89:22

dominant [1] - 13:20

donated [1] - 7:15

done [13] - 12:3,

17:10, 20:2, 33:23,

35:4, 44:10, 55:1,

96:9, 100:19,

112:15, 112:20,

115:15, 115:20

door [1] - 71:12

doors [1] - 86:20

dormant [1] - 79:18

double [3] - 15:1,

37:20, 105:17

doubling [2] - 23:13,

24:9

doubt [1] - 40:10

down [9] - 11:13,

30:17, 39:8, 60:4,

71:24, 84:16, 97:10,

103:18, 109:2

downsize [5] - 34:5,

34:24, 88:15, 94:10

downsized [2] - 42:4,

65:8

downsizing [3] - 42:5,

42:10, 99:14

downtown [43] -

13:21, 25:11, 26:23,

29:20, 32:18, 39:9,

42:21, 44:6, 44:12,

51:17, 51:21, 53:21,

54:22, 63:6, 64:16,

64:17, 68:11, 70:24,

72:7, 72:12, 72:19,

74:9, 74:18, 74:23,

75:21, 79:12, 80:5,

80:14, 80:21, 81:16,

92:23, 95:4, 95:18,

96:1, 96:11, 98:1,

111:21, 111:23,

111:24, 112:24,

113:11, 113:18

downtowns [1] - 30:4

dozen [2] - 68:20, 96:6

dozens [1] - 31:12

Dr [1] - 5:8

draft [2] - 108:18,

108:25

drafted [2] - 100:20,

110:13

drain [1] - 53:20

dramatically [2] -

65:1, 106:7

drastic [2] - 38:3,

38:10

drawings [1] - 93:7

dreams [1] - 29:15

dress [5] - 95:15,

96:8, 96:9, 114:5

dresses [2] - 96:5,

96:6

drive [10] - 25:14,

65:25, 77:21, 82:20,

87:17, 87:21, 87:22,

87:25, 89:1, 89:18

drivers [2] - 15:17,

67:2

driving [6] - 28:4,

66:1, 88:1, 88:24,

88:25, 89:16

dryer [4] - 42:23,

43:21, 72:3, 88:16

duly [34] - 10:21, 13:3,

15:13, 18:9, 21:9,

22:24, 27:16, 29:3,

31:5, 33:15, 35:15,

39:25, 41:7, 47:2,

49:5, 52:10, 55:9,

58:6, 59:19, 61:21,

65:16, 70:7, 73:5,

75:8, 78:20, 85:2,

87:11, 90:11, 93:20,

96:20, 100:12,

104:22, 108:1,

111:15

dummies [1] - 42:10

dunk [1] - 55:18

during [4] - 6:22,

11:17, 52:15, 58:17

duty [1] - 21:19

dying [3] - 105:22,

105:24

dynamics [1] - 91:3

E

early [1] - 13:10

easily [1] - 9:23

easy [1] - 97:21

eat [1] - 27:24

economic [1] - 60:23

economical [1] -

11:24

economist [1] - 17:3

ed [1] - 71:6

Ed [5] - 4:7, 5:5,

52:17, 78:13, 78:19

editor [1] - 100:22

editorial [1] - 71:6

educated [1] - 116:7

education [2] - 42:12,

67:22

educational [1] -

74:20

effect [1] - 112:22

effectively [3] -

108:20, 108:21,

116:10

effectiveness [1] -

29:18

effort [1] - 96:24

efforts [3] - 5:16,

64:22, 100:17

eight [3] - 11:18,

42:17, 44:14

eight-year-old [1] -

11:18

either [4] - 67:1, 67:5,

86:12, 106:21

element [1] - 108:18

ELEMENT [1] - 1:5

elephant [1] - 114:5

elevator [3] - 42:24,

43:21, 88:17

elsewhere [1] - 89:2

employ [1] - 26:20

employed [1] - 119:14

empty [25] - 31:10,

31:23, 32:17, 34:6,

40:7, 40:11, 40:14,

41:14, 42:3, 44:7,

47:16, 55:13, 55:16,

56:21, 57:3, 57:18,

57:23, 76:7, 85:24,

86:1, 86:9, 86:24,

99:13, 109:19,

112:12

empty-nester [7] -

31:10, 31:23, 41:14,

42:3, 55:16, 57:23,

109:19

empty-nesters [15] -

32:17, 34:6, 40:7,

40:11, 40:14, 44:7,

47:16, 55:13, 56:21,

57:3, 57:18, 76:7,

86:1, 99:13, 112:12

empty-nesting [2] -

85:24, 86:24

enable [1] - 19:17

enabling [1] - 68:13

Enclave [4] - 11:14,

12:10, 20:23, 33:22

encourage [2] - 51:16,

51:23

end [3] - 9:15, 35:25,

76:6

ended [3] - 52:23,

53:12, 97:11

ends [1] - 67:9

energy [1] - 76:17

enforced [1] - 65:6

enjoy [1] - 75:20

enormous [1] - 79:9

enrollment [1] - 67:16

ensure [1] - 26:12

entails [1] - 108:11

entering [1] - 6:18

enterprise [1] - 110:12

enterprises [1] - 74:17

entire [3] - 11:1,

98:10, 109:24

entitled [1] - 6:7

enumerated [1] -

108:19

equation [1] - 67:1

equivalent [1] - 108:9

especially [5] - 9:21,

11:17, 23:5, 54:14,

109:8

ESQUIRE [5] - 2:7,

2:7, 2:10, 2:14, 2:17

essential [1] - 51:22

essentially [1] - 95:22

established [2] - 6:14,

9:2

estate [6] - 24:11,

70:17, 70:18, 71:10,

71:18, 115:12

etc [2] - 34:18, 102:17

etched [1] - 77:13

evaluate [1] - 35:22

evening [13] - 18:11,

21:11, 41:9, 49:7,

75:12, 78:14, 78:24,

93:22, 97:8, 100:14,

110:20, 111:17,

115:6


125

evenly [1] - 17:22

events [1] - 110:7

Evergreen [1] - 29:6

everywhere [1] -

27:24

EVID [1] - 4:21

evidence [1] - 112:21

exact [2] - 93:8, 98:13

exactly [5] - 13:6,

38:24, 57:3, 78:6,

112:15

examination [1] - 9:5

examine [2] - 9:6,

102:12

example [4] - 25:4,

31:9, 52:16, 102:18

exceed [1] - 7:23

except [1] - 23:25

exception [1] - 6:8

excuse [1] - 79:5

exhausted [1] - 14:21

EXHIBITS [1] - 4:20

exhibits [1] - 4:22

exist [3] - 31:18,

33:25, 99:5

existing [5] - 62:6,

109:21, 113:2,

113:4, 113:17

exists [2] - 98:24,

113:21

exit [1] - 67:4

expanding [1] - 11:24

expands [1] - 67:17

expect [1] - 66:23

expected [2] - 67:6,

116:24

expense [2] - 56:16,

102:11

expenses [2] - 67:1,

94:11

expensive [2] - 94:8,

94:9

experience [2] - 12:1,

62:1

experienced [2] -

67:7, 117:25

expert [5] - 5:25, 6:11,

37:24, 38:11, 38:25

Expires [1] - 119:24

explain [1] - 37:18

explaining [1] -

117:23

exploited [1] - 13:24

express [2] - 5:4, 13:9

expressions [1] - 16:6

extensive [1] - 26:1

external/internal [1] -

15:25

extra [3] - 7:15, 56:8,


84:2

extras [1] - 84:2

F

F-L-Y-N-N [1] - 104:21

face [1] - 36:5

faced [1] - 23:18

facilities [3] - 14:11,

102:21, 102:24

facility [2] - 17:18,

54:7

facing [1] - 72:12

fact [15] - 6:11, 28:3,

32:16, 49:12, 70:20,

71:19, 72:8, 77:5,

77:17, 87:22, 94:23,

95:21, 96:10, 97:5,

106:9

factor [3] - 13:20,

34:9, 34:16

factors [1] - 86:6

fad [1] - 64:10

failure [1] - 110:8

fair [1] - 15:3

Fair [1] - 25:2

fairly [1] - 95:4

Fairmount [2] - 35:14,

55:8

faith [5] - 63:24, 91:5,

91:16, 91:23, 110:15

fall [1] - 61:4

fallow [4] - 19:21,

79:18, 95:8, 95:9

falls [1] - 27:5

familiar [2] - 20:25,

21:19

families [7] - 19:19,

52:20, 60:16, 60:18,

60:24, 74:8, 94:18

family [21] - 5:21,

11:4, 17:6, 26:3,

34:22, 47:12, 52:13,

52:15, 52:22, 52:24,

54:16, 60:16, 70:17,

72:21, 91:13, 97:9,

99:17, 106:12,

113:11

family-friendly [1] -

54:16

fan [1] - 24:4

far [6] - 18:19, 30:4,

30:11, 99:11, 114:17

father [1] - 94:3

father-in-law [1] - 94:3

fathers [1] - 50:2

favor [5] - 12:9, 33:20,

35:1, 62:10, 76:12

favorite [1] - 58:18

FAX [2] - 1:25, 2:25

fear [1] - 97:24

February [6] - 5:22,

6:17, 59:9, 69:20,

90:7, 118:8

federal [1] - 14:17

feet [5] - 97:25,

113:19, 113:20,

114:19, 114:22

Felicia [2] - 3:19, 55:6

FELICIA [2] - 55:7,

55:9

fell [1] - 87:20

fellow [2] - 21:12,

71:13

felt [1] - 62:7

few [6] - 13:25, 19:12,

59:13, 64:20, 70:11,

94:7

fields [1] - 23:20

figure [3] - 61:1, 86:8,

96:12

fill [1] - 85:25

Fillacross [1] - 41:19

filled [2] - 31:24, 40:13

filling [1] - 40:14

final [2] - 26:18, 106:2

finalists [1] - 97:9

finally [3] - 19:23,

20:10, 81:13

financial [4] - 66:16,

110:6, 119:13,

119:15

fine [4] - 35:11, 56:15,

73:15, 114:20

finish [3] - 8:1, 8:5,

113:24

fire [2] - 15:5, 66:20

firm [2] - 101:20,

103:25

firms [1] - 110:9

first [23] - 5:4, 5:8,

5:18, 6:4, 6:5, 6:23,

10:14, 10:23, 13:16,

21:17, 23:15, 35:22,

43:14, 49:10, 57:4,

59:4, 65:23, 74:23,

82:18, 88:18, 95:5,

97:23, 103:3

fish [1] - 95:17

Fishbein's [1] - 5:8

fit [3] - 23:3, 26:22,

56:23

fitting [1] - 27:2

five [4] - 11:19, 92:10,

97:9, 114:19

five-year-old [1] -

11:19

fix [2] - 64:16, 80:13

fixing [1] - 80:21

flexibly [1] - 67:16

flooded [1] - 57:13

flooding [1] - 55:24

floor [3] - 45:15, 113:5

flush [1] - 116:21

fly [1] - 94:24

Flynn [4] - 4:15,

104:19, 104:20,

107:8

FLYNN [3] - 104:20,

104:22, 104:24

folks [6] - 31:24,

32:11, 41:24, 56:8,

56:19, 59:9

follow [3] - 27:10,

46:3, 47:5

follow-up [1] - 46:3

followed [2] - 6:15,

9:21

following [2] - 6:6,

72:9

follows [34] - 10:22,

13:4, 15:14, 18:10,

21:10, 22:25, 27:17,

29:4, 31:6, 33:16,

35:16, 40:1, 41:8,

47:3, 49:6, 52:11,

55:10, 58:7, 59:20,

61:22, 65:17, 70:8,

73:6, 75:9, 78:21,

85:3, 87:12, 90:12,

93:21, 96:21,

100:13, 104:23,

108:2, 111:16

Foods [1] - 54:5

foot [7] - 22:10, 22:13,

28:3, 31:19, 50:12,

53:24, 96:8

foray [2] - 76:13

forces [2] - 16:8,

64:17

foregoing [1] - 119:8

forever [4] - 36:1,

38:2, 79:25, 80:11

forgotten [2] - 58:22,

73:9

form [1] - 17:5

former [2] - 52:12,

79:4

Fort [1] - 106:4

forth [3] - 36:1, 38:5,

102:21

forums [1] - 99:11

forward [14] - 18:17,

18:25, 19:1, 20:7,

20:8, 20:16, 26:16,

29:14, 33:19, 66:5,

68:14, 70:1, 107:23,

111:3

founding [1] - 50:2

four [8] - 47:8, 47:18,

47:19, 52:18, 73:25,

91:10, 95:15, 106:12

fourth [3] - 21:13,

67:4, 85:16

FRANCIS [1] - 13:3

Francis [2] - 3:4,

12:25

frank [2] - 15:8, 28:20

Frank [2] - 12:23,

15:16

Franklin [1] - 17:24

frankly [5] - 30:11,

37:25, 38:4, 53:3,

105:19

free [1] - 16:8

fret [1] - 60:20

fried [1] - 104:25

friend [3] - 29:19,

90:17, 92:22

friendly [1] - 54:16

friends [10] - 41:22,

42:6, 42:15, 43:24,

47:14, 57:11, 75:12,

77:24, 90:2, 97:1

front [3] - 45:14,

72:17, 114:6

fulfill [2] - 19:2, 19:9

function [1] - 87:24

functional [1] - 108:9

FURBACHER [2] -

119:4, 119:22

furthermore [1] -

19:11

future [3] - 17:5, 38:7,

108:10

G

G-I-U-L-I-A-N-I [1] -

41:5

GAIL [1] - 2:7

game [1] - 5:15

gap [2] - 66:7, 66:11

garage [1] - 56:3

garden [1] - 15:5

gardeners [1] - 28:12

geared [3] - 34:20,

34:22, 34:23

gee [3] - 22:7, 71:12,

72:14

gene [1] - 41:25

general [4] - 6:4,

37:12, 37:14, 116:3

generated [1] - 54:11

generation [6] - 21:13,

47:24, 55:24, 57:3,

85:5, 94:24

generations [1] - 94:1


126

generosity [1] - 44:2

generous [1] - 14:25

gentleman [2] - 73:23,

80:15

gentlemen [5] - 13:5,

15:20, 68:25, 69:13,

100:15

GERALDINE [2] -

21:7, 21:9

Geraldine [3] - 3:7,

21:3, 21:6

giant [1] - 87:2

gift [1] - 22:12

GIULIANI [12] - 41:4,

41:7, 41:9, 44:9,

45:5, 45:8, 45:12,

45:18, 46:6, 46:9,

46:15, 46:18

Giuliani [5] - 3:15,

41:3, 41:4, 44:24,

47:5

given [4] - 6:11, 7:17,

102:23, 108:19

glaring [1] - 15:21

glassblowing [1] -

74:21

Glen [1] - 31:4

glut [1] - 86:12

goal [1] - 11:3

goals [2] - 23:16,

26:14

Godwin [1] - 15:12

GOLDBERG [3] -

39:23, 39:25, 40:2

Goldberg [5] - 3:14,

36:24, 39:20, 39:23,

41:2

Google [1] - 74:12

govern [1] - 92:25

governed [1] - 92:25

governing [2] - 91:5,

93:13

government [2] - 91:5,

110:15

government's [1] -

91:16

graders [1] - 85:16

graduated [2] - 41:13,

42:18

graduating [2] -

21:17, 93:25

grand [1] - 67:10

grandparents [4] -

21:14, 67:25, 68:1

grant [1] - 71:8

great [22] - 5:16, 24:5,

24:8, 25:3, 30:16,

32:24, 44:1, 52:1,

54:17, 54:19, 55:23,

67:25, 68:1, 73:17,


79:12, 79:13, 94:5,

99:16, 115:13,

116:14

great-grandparents

[1] - 67:25

great-great-

grandparents [1] -

68:1

greater [1] - 83:21

greatly [1] - 115:6

Greek [1] - 78:24

green [2] - 15:5, 45:9

grew [4] - 11:1, 48:9,

106:2, 112:4

gridlock [1] - 85:10

GRIFFITH [9] - 46:25,

47:1, 47:2, 47:4,

49:3, 49:4, 49:5,

49:7, 51:21

Griffith [9] - 3:16,

3:17, 46:22, 46:25,

48:24, 48:25, 49:3,

51:19, 52:5

grind [1] - 30:7

groceries [2] - 77:22

ground [2] - 17:18,

64:25

group [1] - 32:1

grow [5] - 11:3, 36:6,

38:5, 50:1, 89:16

growing [1] - 74:15

grows [2] - 11:21,

39:6

growth [8] - 36:10,

36:17, 37:4, 37:10,

37:22, 39:11, 39:17,

40:4

guess [2] - 105:19,

106:20

guild [1] - 41:24

guy [1] - 58:18

guys [2] - 48:21, 97:21

GW [1] - 21:17

H

H-I-G-H-F-I-L-L [1] -

59:17

Habitat [1] - 50:10

haircut [1] - 34:17

hairdresser [1] - 58:16

Halaby [4] - 3:10,

28:24, 29:5, 30:24

HALABY [4] - 28:25,

29:3, 29:5, 29:6

half [5] - 27:21, 42:10,

63:21, 77:19, 96:6

hallway [2] - 116:23,

117:21

hamstrung [1] - 88:12

hand [3] - 7:21, 95:2,

110:9

hands [1] - 89:14

happy [1] - 27:22

hard [8] - 17:16, 23:3,

31:1, 47:4, 52:2,

58:16, 86:3, 105:18

harshness [1] - 68:4

hate [1] - 48:13

health [1] - 44:16

healthy [1] - 56:23

hear [9] - 8:8, 8:21,

31:20, 37:2, 48:1,

53:25, 60:1, 98:15,

101:2

heard [21] - 5:25, 9:17,

21:20, 25:16, 25:17,

26:23, 44:13, 55:13,

66:19, 66:22, 67:14,

67:18, 67:19, 72:5,

72:10, 72:11, 102:9,

105:4, 105:8,

105:21, 117:3

HEARING [1] - 1:4

hearing [8] - 6:4, 8:12,

9:25, 36:18, 49:8,

70:9, 77:10, 105:4

hearings [3] - 6:3,

9:24, 14:19

hearsay [1] - 117:20

heart [1] - 53:13

heated [1] - 100:18

heavy [1] - 19:14

heck [3] - 88:11,

92:16, 92:17

heels [3] - 36:9, 39:12,

39:14

height [6] - 68:10,

113:17, 113:20,

113:22, 114:14,

114:18

Heights [1] - 22:23

held [1] - 68:23

hello [1] - 87:9

help [10] - 12:4, 29:17,

34:25, 51:16, 66:3,

80:19, 90:7, 111:22,

111:23

helped [1] - 29:12

helpful [3] - 6:5,

17:14, 37:2

helping [2] - 5:5, 5:7

hereby [1] - 119:7

hero [1] - 15:16

hi [4] - 21:6, 59:16,

75:10, 85:4

high [19] - 13:7, 23:11,

25:20, 26:1, 32:2,

32:11, 33:23, 41:13,

56:22, 60:6, 69:21,

71:5, 71:8, 76:6,

77:2, 93:25, 97:25,

99:19, 112:5

High [1] - 21:18

high-end [1] - 76:6

high-rise [1] - 13:7

high-rises [1] - 33:23

higher [4] - 68:9,

92:17, 101:24,

109:20

highest [1] - 14:7

Highfill [4] - 3:21,

59:15, 59:17, 61:16

HIGHFILL [3] - 59:16,

59:19, 59:21

Highland [2] - 13:1,

111:14

highway [3] - 78:1,

87:23, 89:1

highways [1] - 90:1

highwood [1] - 59:18

Hillside [1] - 73:4

himself [1] - 25:20

hired [3] - 101:19,

102:10, 102:12

Historic [1] - 41:23

history [1] - 75:25

hit [1] - 21:22

Ho [2] - 74:25

Ho-Ho-Kus [1] - 74:25

hobbyists [2] - 51:4,

51:5

Hoboken [2] - 32:7,

74:25

hold [4] - 27:9, 40:23,

79:25, 114:11

hole [1] - 87:3

home [8] - 16:16,

21:25, 34:8, 42:20,

43:7, 60:16, 77:22,

99:18

homeowner [1] -

21:24

homeowners [2] -

19:15, 60:21

homeowners' [1] -

56:17

homes [7] - 16:11,

17:6, 94:16, 94:21,

106:12, 106:13

homework [1] - 43:18

honest [1] - 12:12

honestly [1] - 76:3

honor [1] - 75:25

Hope [1] - 107:24

hope [9] - 17:15,

22:15, 26:16, 32:16,

32:18, 48:12, 49:8,

97:2, 103:1

hopeful [1] - 22:17

hopefully [1] - 112:3

horse [1] - 65:24

hospital [1] - 108:16

Hospital [3] - 21:15,

98:4, 98:10

hot [1] - 42:6

hottest [1] - 24:10

hour [1] - 63:21

house [22] - 16:13,

19:6, 22:5, 41:12,

42:18, 43:7, 47:12,

50:15, 53:4, 53:5,

60:12, 61:4, 62:2,

81:9, 81:19, 84:1,

88:2, 89:8, 94:2,

94:19, 96:8, 105:15

houses [3] - 48:9,

57:11, 91:19

housing [24] - 5:21,

15:25, 16:5, 17:10,

19:2, 50:12, 53:1,

53:9, 53:21, 54:1,

57:21, 58:9, 59:25,

66:8, 68:9, 72:21,

85:24, 93:2, 93:3,

108:6, 112:11,

113:16, 114:15,

114:17

Hudson [2] - 17:22,

17:24

huge [4] - 25:9, 27:20,

114:2, 114:6

Humanity [1] - 50:11

humble [2] - 49:8,

49:9

hundred [1] - 64:11

hundreds [3] - 14:3,

19:21, 91:24

hurt [1] - 22:14

husband [1] - 47:7

I

ID [1] - 4:21

idea [8] - 24:25, 34:14,

47:13, 52:1, 68:9,

78:1, 90:20

identity [1] - 73:18

imagination [1] -

38:12

imaginative [1] -

74:17

imagine [3] - 25:10,

25:14, 85:13

immediately [2] - 7:4,

32:6

impact [13] - 26:13,

34:15, 34:19, 35:2,


127

62:19, 63:14, 64:14,

64:21, 86:17,

102:12, 102:15,

112:23, 113:2

impacts [4] - 62:14,

91:11, 93:3, 93:11

impasse [1] - 18:20

important [14] - 9:1,

11:20, 13:16, 16:25,

39:5, 45:24, 45:25,

46:4, 46:5, 46:14,

65:7, 83:17, 99:5,

112:20

importantly [1] - 79:8

impose [1] - 15:4

impossible [1] -

109:10

impression [1] - 116:3

improper [1] - 9:6

improve [1] - 19:24

improvement [1] -

33:4

improvements [2] -

51:1, 51:2

IN [1] - 1:4

in-house [1] - 22:5

inadequate [1] - 36:12

include [1] - 101:7

included [2] - 62:24,

102:1

including [3] - 10:4,

14:20, 70:17

income [2] - 32:2,

32:11

incorporating [1] -

110:1

increase [3] - 73:24,

74:10, 74:18

increased [5] - 28:4,

53:24, 53:25, 66:23,

66:24

increases [1] - 113:19

increasing [1] - 56:16

increasingly [1] - 63:5

incredible [1] - 37:22

indeed [1] - 76:25

indicate [1] - 9:16

individual's [1] - 8:2

individually [1] - 6:8

individuals [1] - 6:18

industry [1] - 16:25

inevitable [1] - 68:10

inevitably [1] - 67:8

infinitum [1] - 102:6

influx [2] - 60:20,

60:21

information [3] - 6:10,

7:7, 9:4

infrastructure [9] -

14:3, 36:11, 36:12,


56:1, 56:9, 62:7,

63:2, 63:14, 110:4

ingress [2] - 17:25

initiated [1] - 73:11

initiatives [1] - 75:2

insight [1] - 92:24

instead [2] - 53:24,

99:25

insurance [1] - 17:3

integrated [1] - 26:12

intended [1] - 100:22

intends [1] - 6:21

intensely [1] - 109:6

intensify [1] - 14:13

intentioned [1] - 30:14

interest [4] - 30:10,

39:7, 119:14, 119:15

interested [4] - 6:6,

10:2, 32:11, 60:8

Interested [3] - 2:12,

2:16, 2:19

interesting [2] - 46:6,

97:7

interestingly [1] -

25:24

interests [2] - 18:24,

26:10

interim [1] - 109:24

interject [1] - 10:3

interrupt [2] - 9:12,

37:1

intersection [2] -

85:10, 108:12

introduced [1] - 37:13

invested [2] - 70:12,

85:7

investing [1] - 48:9

invigorate [1] - 80:21

involve [1] - 26:11

involved [4] - 18:13,

30:8, 49:19, 119:13

Ira [1] - 8:16

IRA [1] - 2:17

irrelevant [1] - 9:19

irreversible [3] - 38:3,

56:12, 57:15

Irving [3] - 47:1, 49:4,

65:14

ISABELLA [1] - 1:18

issue [10] - 22:6,

33:18, 43:16, 52:3,

93:5, 96:3, 99:8,

102:25, 106:13,

108:4

issued [2] - 102:14,

104:8

issues [4] - 21:20,

72:10, 72:12, 80:16

itself [3] - 15:21,

80:13, 108:18

J

J-E-A-N-N-E-T-T-E [1]

- 27:15

JAMES [2] - 31:5,

108:1

James [4] - 3:11, 4:16,

31:3, 107:24

January [1] - 85:13

JANUARY [1] - 1:2

JAWORSKI [1] - 2:10

JEANETTE [1] - 27:16

Jeanette [1] - 3:9

Jeannette [2] - 27:12,

27:13

JEFF [4] - 10:19,

10:21, 39:25, 93:20

Jeff [9] - 3:3, 3:14,

4:12, 10:15, 10:18,

36:24, 39:23, 93:17,

93:18

Jersey [11] - 2:8, 2:12,

2:15, 2:18, 9:3,

31:14, 63:24, 119:7,

119:11, 119:18,

119:23

JIM [1] - 49:5

Jim [5] - 3:17, 30:25,

31:7, 48:25, 49:3

job [4] - 30:17, 47:8,

54:25, 92:13

Joe [4] - 25:23, 26:15,

26:16, 52:18

Joe's [1] - 26:19

JOEL [1] - 1:11

Joel [1] - 69:8

John [6] - 4:4, 69:25,

70:5, 90:16, 92:18,

99:7

JOHN [1] - 70:7

John's [2] - 92:22

joint [1] - 5:13

Journal [1] - 16:10

journey [1] - 42:15

judgment [3] - 51:24,

108:23, 110:8

judiciously [1] - 103:9

Juliette [2] - 46:17,

46:20

jumping [1] - 87:3

justice [1] - 62:4

justifiably [1] - 14:14

justification [1] -

112:11

justifications [1] -

111:18

K

K-A-H-N [1] - 10:19

K-O-T-C-H [1] - 73:3

Kahn [6] - 3:3, 10:15,

10:18, 12:7, 12:8,

20:21

KAHN [6] - 10:18,

10:21, 10:23, 12:11,

12:14, 12:20

KATHRYN [3] - 2:7,

65:14, 65:16

Kathryn [3] - 3:23,

65:12, 65:13

KAY [2] - 47:1, 47:2

Kay [3] - 3:16, 46:22,

46:25

keep [11] - 35:17,

50:3, 53:3, 56:14,

81:1, 88:20, 94:19,

103:9, 105:4, 112:7,

114:14

keeping [5] - 7:20,

32:17, 53:17,

109:17, 113:21

Ken [3] - 17:17, 17:23,

58:23

Kenmore [1] - 31:4

kept [1] - 113:22

KHIDIR [1] - 1:19

kicking [2] - 30:17,

87:19

kid [1] - 106:5

kids [14] - 32:3, 32:4,

32:7, 32:14, 32:19,

40:16, 47:15, 48:16,

62:5, 62:21, 62:22,

62:23, 86:7, 99:15

KIM [2] - 119:4, 119:22

Kim [2] - 7:6, 7:9

kind [7] - 31:10, 31:22,

34:1, 61:25, 62:16,

63:7, 74:21

kindergarten [1] -

11:20

kindly [1] - 9:11

kinds [1] - 32:5

kitchen [1] - 42:6

Kmart [1] - 64:8

knowing [3] - 24:18,

43:14, 48:14

knowledge [2] -

43:18, 47:23

knowledgeable [1] -

116:8

known [3] - 54:15,

77:5, 79:21

knows [2] - 74:4,

79:21

KNUDSEN [1] - 1:13

Knudsen [1] - 69:7

KOTCH [3] - 73:3,

73:5, 73:7

Kotch [4] - 4:5, 73:2,

73:3, 75:6

KRISTINE [2] -

100:10, 100:12

Kristine [4] - 4:14,

100:9, 100:10,

103:14

Kus [1] - 74:25

L

L.L.C [2] - 1:22, 2:22

lack [4] - 15:22, 61:7,

83:18, 102:24

ladies [6] - 13:5,

15:20, 28:14, 68:24,

69:13, 100:14

lady [1] - 47:21

laid [1] - 19:21

Lake [1] - 2:8

lamb [1] - 101:19

land [2] - 14:15, 15:2

LAND [1] - 1:5

landlord [2] - 48:10,

78:17

landscaping [1] -

45:13

lanes [1] - 15:5

languishing [1] - 95:6

large [9] - 25:5, 26:3,

37:8, 54:2, 60:16,

64:20, 76:21, 107:3,

110:11

largely [1] - 14:15

largest [2] - 14:6,

44:16

last [12] - 18:14, 23:6,

24:21, 35:13, 50:10,

59:3, 67:11, 74:13,

85:9, 92:10, 96:7,

110:21

lastly [1] - 103:2

late [1] - 104:25

laugh [1] - 97:2

laundry [1] - 22:6

LAURA [2] - 1:22, 2:22

LauraACaruccillc@

gmail.com [2] - 1:25,

2:25

law [4] - 9:3, 10:2,

94:3, 103:25

Lawn [1] - 25:2

lead [2] - 20:16, 28:7

leadership [2] - 20:12,

55:1


128

leap [1] - 38:12

learn [1] - 89:18

learned [1] - 87:22

learning [1] - 48:9

least [4] - 46:16, 48:3,

58:13, 71:1

leave [1] - 114:14

leaves [1] - 28:15

leaving [1] - 9:20

led [2] - 81:25, 107:1

Lee [1] - 106:4

left [6] - 19:5, 47:15,

63:12, 106:15,

106:16, 107:12

legal [6] - 6:9, 71:15,

104:1, 104:10,

108:10, 108:23

legally [1] - 106:13

length [1] - 115:13

less [8] - 24:22, 54:1,

77:19, 106:9,

106:10, 113:5,

113:9, 115:22

letter [2] - 26:6,

100:20

level [4] - 35:19,

49:24, 100:1, 116:12

levels [1] - 30:2

library [1] - 41:22

License [2] - 119:4,

119:23

LIEBMAN [1] - 2:10

life [6] - 11:1, 11:7,

42:16, 52:25, 53:15,

96:10

lifecycle [1] - 64:6

light [1] - 85:14

likely [1] - 30:12

limit [3] - 9:19, 99:9,

100:6

limited [2] - 17:22,

19:8

limits [2] - 9:15, 102:4

line [3] - 56:15,

101:23, 106:19

lining [1] - 56:15

Linwood [1] - 63:11

LISA [1] - 75:8

Lisa [3] - 4:6, 75:7,

75:10

list [19] - 6:20, 6:25,

8:4, 8:6, 10:12,

10:14, 15:9, 42:21,

43:3, 43:15, 43:22,

53:11, 69:16, 69:23,

69:25, 99:19,

107:12, 107:14,

107:19

listened [1] - 10:25

listening [2] - 100:25,


105:1

literally [2] - 81:25,

89:1

litigation [1] - 108:11

live [45] - 10:19, 16:17,

16:18, 16:19, 16:23,

22:4, 29:14, 35:14,

36:13, 41:15, 43:12,

44:18, 44:21, 45:4,

51:6, 51:8, 53:1,

55:14, 55:19, 57:11,

58:5, 59:17, 62:20,

62:25, 63:2, 63:3,

63:4, 70:6, 73:4,

75:11, 75:19, 83:25,

84:8, 84:9, 84:17,

87:10, 88:10, 91:19,

92:15, 94:8, 94:9,

94:16, 99:14

lived [17] - 17:12,

21:14, 21:18, 22:2,

27:19, 31:8, 31:9,

41:11, 47:6, 52:13,

81:7, 81:12, 88:24,

89:25, 94:2, 94:4,

94:17

lives [2] - 94:3, 98:21

living [17] - 34:13,

34:23, 43:5, 53:4,

53:7, 56:24, 62:22,

63:5, 64:3, 83:24,

84:10, 87:25, 88:8,

94:1, 94:11, 105:13

LLC [1] - 2:17

LLP [1] - 2:10

local [5] - 16:7, 59:22,

61:8, 75:21, 78:17

locally [1] - 88:25

location [3] - 42:22,

58:24, 88:15

logical [1] - 57:7

long-term [3] - 19:3,

19:5, 110:3

longest [1] - 81:5

longtime [1] - 42:2

look [16] - 11:22,

11:24, 16:1, 16:6,

17:9, 17:16, 17:21,

23:21, 25:1, 29:14,

29:24, 30:10, 68:11,

71:11, 86:16, 92:12

looked [2] - 97:5,

97:12

looking [7] - 16:8,

25:7, 37:8, 43:1,

49:20, 51:3, 112:25

looks [2] - 28:20,

29:24

lose [1] - 106:22

loss [1] - 44:1

lost [7] - 19:21, 34:11,

47:7, 47:14, 92:11,

106:14, 106:18

Lotte [1] - 18:8

love [12] - 23:22, 34:9,

34:16, 47:7, 50:23,

58:12, 61:4, 77:11,

87:20, 88:15, 99:15,

115:23

loved [1] - 31:15

lovely [2] - 22:4, 41:12

low [4] - 32:15, 32:16,

37:20, 77:18

lower [2] - 37:19,

92:17

lowest [1] - 50:14

lucky [1] - 43:23

luxury [6] - 22:5, 25:4,

25:6, 32:20, 32:23,

67:6

M

M-c-C-A-R-T-H-Y [1] -

107:25

M-I-D-D-L-E-T-O-N [1]

- 58:5

M-U-L-H-E-R-N [1] -

21:7

Mack [1] - 26:3

Mack-Cali [1] - 26:3

Mahwah [3] - 51:6,

51:8, 51:9

main [5] - 16:21,

80:16, 90:4, 106:23,

112:22

maintain [3] - 21:25,

103:4, 112:10

maintained [1] -

101:22

maintenance [2] -

34:9, 66:21

major [6] - 14:2,

15:21, 17:11, 53:19,

62:8, 63:18

majority [1] - 16:12

Maltbie [1] - 10:19

managed [2] - 53:18,

112:7

management [3] -

70:17, 110:8, 110:10

Mancuso [1] - 50:1

mandate [1] - 101:4

mandated [2] - 64:25,

65:1

Manhattan [2] - 83:25,

89:7

manner [1] - 8:3

Manor [1] - 62:21

maple [1] - 85:10

Maple [1] - 54:9

marked [1] - 4:22

market [2] - 16:8,

42:18

markets [2] - 67:8,

95:17

married [1] - 32:3

mason [1] - 28:20

MASON [1] - 28:21

mass [2] - 63:19, 84:3

Massachusetts [1] -

30:3

massive [4] - 23:10,

25:13, 26:22, 40:12

MASTER [1] - 1:5

Master [27] - 5:20,

25:17, 65:25, 66:1,

66:3, 71:2, 73:8,

73:10, 73:14, 74:1,

75:14, 76:16, 77:2,

77:14, 78:9, 79:10,

79:15, 87:2, 95:21,

101:4, 101:24,

102:19, 102:21,

103:4, 103:5,

108:15, 109:25

master [1] - 56:4

Mastin [1] - 39:24

math [1] - 76:24

MATTER [1] - 1:4

matter [6] - 5:19, 6:7,

68:2, 77:9, 94:13,

95:2

matters [1] - 38:4

max [4] - 109:2,

113:12, 113:15,

113:19

maximize [3] - 23:15,

24:14, 24:16

maximum [1] - 113:9

Mayflower [1] - 22:3

Mayor [1] - 69:7

mayor [2] - 13:8,

106:3

MAYOR [4] - 1:12,

38:15, 38:18, 38:21

mayor's [1] - 108:25

McCarthy [9] - 4:16,

107:11, 107:15,

107:18, 107:22,

107:24, 108:1, 108:3

McHugh [1] - 22:12

Meadowlands [1] -

2:14

mean [7] - 37:18,

37:21, 38:4, 62:12,

62:19, 105:18, 107:3

means [4] - 44:14,

82:10, 83:11, 105:11

mechanism [2] -

108:14, 108:15

media [1] - 89:13

mediate [1] - 11:8

mediation [1] - 11:8

MEESE [1] - 2:6

meet [2] - 77:4, 109:18

meeting [9] - 5:12,

5:22, 6:17, 8:19,

13:7, 30:16, 100:21,

118:7, 118:10

meetings [9] - 5:25,

10:25, 25:16, 26:24,

44:4, 55:15, 70:11,

72:6, 105:7

meets [1] - 53:1

Melinda [3] - 4:10,

87:8, 87:9

MELINDA [1] - 87:11

member [5] - 8:19,

28:11, 41:19, 41:21,

51:4

MEMBER [6] - 1:14,

1:15, 1:16, 1:17,

1:18, 1:19

members [4] - 21:11,

24:24, 73:11, 77:3

memories [1] - 29:15

men [2] - 51:5, 51:7

mentality [1] - 89:6

mention [3] - 29:21,

82:19, 98:22

mentioned [4] - 37:23,

57:9, 57:10, 98:19

Merit [1] - 119:5

messing [1] - 99:4

met [4] - 98:9, 98:14,

98:21, 98:24

Michael [4] - 7:20,

69:3, 69:12, 115:24

MICHAEL [1] - 2:4

Michele [4] - 12:22,

45:22, 58:2, 118:1

MICHELE [1] - 1:17

microphone [1] - 7:4

middle [2] - 11:11,

19:18

Middleton [4] - 3:20,

58:3, 58:4, 59:2

MIDDLETON [3] -

58:4, 58:6, 58:8

Midwest [1] - 29:23

might [9] - 6:2, 32:19,

34:15, 60:24, 66:4,

82:18, 82:20, 84:10,

105:9

millenials [2] - 16:11,

16:24

million [2] - 17:1,

44:15


129

mind [9] - 7:11, 51:6,

56:25, 57:1, 69:1,

99:25, 103:9,

107:17, 117:19

minded [1] - 41:18

mindset [1] - 88:5

mine [3] - 11:3, 29:19,

81:8

minute [3] - 68:21,

84:8, 110:22

minutes [11] - 7:18,

7:21, 7:24, 8:10,

8:15, 23:4, 29:1,

58:13, 68:22

misfortune [1] - 62:2

mispronouncing [1] -

35:10

mistaken [1] - 48:18

misunderstood [1] -

9:23

mitigate [1] - 114:2

modeling [1] - 92:2

moderate [2] - 76:13,

76:22

moderately [1] - 35:5

moderation [2] -

76:14, 78:7

modern [3] - 50:20,

51:11

modifications [1] -

62:2

mom [1] - 41:20

moment [1] - 73:17

MONDAY [1] - 1:2

Monday [1] - 11:17

money [6] - 48:8,

48:10, 71:23, 74:19,

74:24, 89:22

money's [1] - 24:12

month [2] - 88:11,

105:10

months [9] - 6:1,

18:14, 23:6, 43:1,

44:4, 47:8, 81:8,

88:11, 96:7

Montvale [1] - 2:18

morning [1] - 58:20

most [15] - 13:16,

13:19, 25:15, 50:7,

50:15, 50:20, 72:3,

79:8, 81:14, 95:5,

99:11, 101:21,

110:2, 112:17,

116:12

mostly [2] - 47:17,

77:20

mother [1] - 94:3

motive [1] - 48:18

Mount [1] - 21:16

move [22] - 7:3, 7:13,


11:3, 32:8, 34:4,

38:9, 42:5, 42:13,

43:6, 43:24, 43:25,

47:9, 48:7, 53:5,

56:20, 88:10, 88:18,

99:20, 105:16,

112:13, 112:16,

112:19

moved [19] - 17:12,

31:13, 32:6, 32:7,

43:13, 49:17, 59:21,

60:10, 63:3, 81:8,

87:16, 89:15, 95:5,

97:4, 97:13, 98:20,

98:23, 106:17,

106:21

moving [8] - 32:21,

53:12, 56:21, 60:9,

60:25, 64:18, 89:7,

99:17

mowing [1] - 56:25

MR [69] - 10:18, 10:23,

12:11, 12:14, 12:20,

12:25, 13:5, 15:10,

15:15, 18:7, 18:11,

20:24, 22:22, 23:1,

28:21, 28:25, 29:5,

31:2, 31:7, 33:13,

33:17, 35:11, 35:17,

37:14, 38:17, 38:19,

38:24, 39:23, 40:2,

49:3, 49:7, 51:21,

61:18, 61:23, 70:4,

70:9, 73:3, 73:7,

78:14, 78:19, 78:22,

81:24, 82:5, 82:11,

82:17, 83:19, 84:21,

84:23, 90:13, 93:18,

93:22, 96:18, 96:22,

104:20, 104:24,

107:24, 108:3,

110:23, 111:1,

111:13, 111:17,

113:25, 114:19,

114:23, 115:1,

116:1, 117:9,

117:19, 117:23

MS [84] - 12:8, 12:13,

12:19, 20:20, 21:1,

21:6, 21:11, 27:13,

27:18, 36:25, 38:14,

41:4, 41:9, 44:9,

44:25, 45:3, 45:5,

45:6, 45:8, 45:9,

45:12, 45:16, 45:18,

45:19, 45:22, 45:24,

46:4, 46:6, 46:8,

46:9, 46:11, 46:15,

46:17, 46:18, 46:19,

46:25, 47:4, 52:7,

52:12, 55:7, 55:11,

57:17, 57:22, 57:24,

58:4, 58:8, 59:16,

59:21, 65:13, 65:18,

75:10, 78:4, 81:25,

82:6, 82:13, 82:22,

84:22, 84:25, 85:4,

87:9, 87:13, 100:10,

100:14, 103:15,

103:21, 103:22,

103:24, 104:1,

104:3, 104:4, 104:7,

104:10, 104:12,

104:13, 104:14,

104:17, 111:5,

111:9, 114:10,

114:13, 114:21,

114:24, 115:2, 118:3

Mulhern [4] - 3:7,

21:3, 21:7, 22:20

MULHERN [3] - 21:6,

21:9, 21:11

multi [8] - 5:21, 13:19,

26:3, 54:22, 70:17,

72:21, 91:13, 113:11

multi-family [6] - 5:21,

26:3, 70:17, 72:21,

91:13, 113:11

multi-story [1] - 13:19

multi-unit [1] - 54:22

multimillion [1] - 34:8

multiple [2] - 54:13,

60:17

municipalities [2] -

102:2, 115:14

Murray [1] - 85:1

must [4] - 6:23, 7:9,

9:4, 26:11

N

Nabisco [1] - 25:3

nail [1] - 80:6

Nalbantian [1] - 69:8

NALBANTIAN [68] -

1:10, 5:1, 12:6,

12:21, 15:8, 18:2,

20:18, 21:2, 22:19,

27:8, 28:18, 28:22,

30:23, 33:10, 35:7,

36:19, 38:22, 39:19,

39:21, 41:1, 44:8,

44:23, 45:1, 45:21,

46:2, 46:13, 46:21,

48:23, 51:19, 52:4,

55:4, 57:25, 59:1,

61:15, 65:10, 68:18,

68:24, 69:11, 72:25,

75:5, 78:3, 78:11,

81:22, 84:19, 84:24,

87:7, 90:9, 93:15,

96:15, 100:7,

103:14, 104:15,

104:18, 107:7,

110:19, 110:24,

111:2, 111:8,

111:11, 113:24,

114:8, 114:11,

114:25, 117:8,

117:14, 117:17,

118:1, 118:4

name [28] - 7:3, 7:5,

7:12, 8:3, 10:16,

10:18, 12:23, 12:25,

15:9, 18:5, 21:4,

29:21, 30:25, 31:7,

35:12, 35:13, 39:22,

43:3, 46:24, 49:1,

49:3, 70:2, 87:9,

111:13, 115:20

named [1] - 8:15

naming [1] - 20:22

NANCY [1] - 1:14

narrow [1] - 93:12

narrowed [1] - 97:10

national [1] - 16:15

nationally [2] - 16:7,

110:5

nationwide [1] - 17:3

natural [1] - 17:17

nature [2] - 116:6,

117:24

navigating [1] - 42:16

near [3] - 25:3, 72:23,

99:18

nearby [1] - 88:21

nearly [1] - 16:25

necessarily [2] -

23:16, 111:23

necessary [1] - 88:6

necessitates [1] - 26:9

necessity [1] - 77:1

need [50] - 8:20, 19:2,

19:10, 23:18, 26:19,

27:10, 36:11, 37:9,

44:12, 44:17, 47:11,

47:22, 58:11, 58:13,

61:8, 61:9, 63:25,

67:11, 76:6, 77:5,

77:12, 77:13, 77:18,

77:21, 80:23, 80:24,

83:16, 83:23, 84:10,

84:11, 84:15, 85:25,

86:15, 87:1, 90:1,

90:2, 91:17, 91:20,

91:22, 93:13, 96:12,

107:13, 108:6,

110:2, 112:14

needed [3] - 50:8,

53:3, 111:24

needs [10] - 19:11,

39:6, 47:20, 53:1,

55:1, 66:15, 84:2,

95:21, 109:19, 110:4

negative [3] - 56:10,

64:14, 67:7

negotiating [2] -

108:24, 109:2

negotiations [2] -

20:1, 20:11

neighbor [1] - 90:17

neighborhood [3] -

19:24, 95:11, 106:6

neighbors [5] - 62:9,

88:22, 95:11, 106:7,

106:9

Ness [1] - 28:14

nester [7] - 31:10,

31:23, 41:14, 42:3,

55:16, 57:23, 109:19

nesters [15] - 32:17,

34:6, 40:7, 40:11,

40:14, 44:7, 47:16,

55:13, 56:21, 57:3,

57:18, 76:7, 86:1,

99:13, 112:12

nesting [2] - 85:24,

86:24

net [1] - 109:23

never [13] - 62:3,

64:22, 74:15, 89:15,

91:1, 91:11, 95:14,

95:23, 97:12, 98:9,

98:23, 98:24, 115:10

nevertheless [1] -

70:25

new [8] - 13:25, 25:2,

25:4, 28:15, 50:21,

50:22, 50:23, 50:24

New [20] - 2:8, 2:12,

2:15, 2:18, 9:2,

17:12, 29:21, 30:3,

31:14, 32:6, 63:2,

63:24, 83:25, 87:18,

89:5, 97:4, 119:7,

119:11, 119:18,

119:23

news [1] - 44:13

News [2] - 71:7,

100:23

next [16] - 5:22, 7:13,

8:2, 11:19, 12:23,

15:9, 21:2, 22:21,

28:13, 28:24, 30:25,

42:16, 61:17, 69:24,

71:12, 71:15

nice [9] - 22:10, 25:6,

44:17, 44:21, 45:13,

81:11, 86:23, 94:22,

99:17


130

night [1] - 27:25

nights [1] - 5:18

nine [2] - 58:20, 68:22

NJ [2] - 1:24, 2:24

NO [1] - 4:21

nobody [4] - 24:20,

24:21, 35:12, 105:23

nobody's [1] - 24:11

none [1] - 20:9

normal [4] - 109:14,

109:22, 109:25,

116:12

north [1] - 14:8

North [3] - 2:11, 2:15,

11:5

northern [1] - 31:14

notably [1] - 72:3

Notary [2] - 119:7,

119:23

note [6] - 5:23, 7:1,

7:14, 8:23, 10:9,

118:7

notes [1] - 103:18

nothing [4] - 23:9,

48:14, 109:12,

117:22

notice [1] - 118:9

November [2] -

100:21, 101:1

nowadays [1] - 32:7

nowhere [1] - 72:22

number [12] - 7:1,

23:17, 25:18, 25:22,

28:10, 28:24, 32:14,

37:4, 42:7, 65:20,

77:7, 105:7

numbers [7] - 32:13,

37:19, 37:20, 38:13,

38:16, 66:22, 80:17

numerous [2] - 5:24,

97:25

O

Oak [3] - 22:2, 58:18,

62:20

oak [1] - 62:21

oath [4] - 7:9, 7:19,

115:1, 119:9

obfuscate [1] - 116:9

objection [3] - 10:4,

10:6, 106:23

objections [2] - 8:21,

10:9

objective [1] - 44:11

objectively [1] -

102:12

observation [2] -

17:14, 17:15


observations [1] -

93:12

observer [1] - 60:5

obvious [2] - 50:21,

102:4

obviously [2] - 95:7,

97:10

occasionally [1] - 88:6

occur [1] - 60:2

OF [5] - 1:1, 1:4, 1:5,

1:9

offer [3] - 14:25, 15:2,

22:7

offering [3] - 11:23,

42:10, 58:18

office [1] - 24:12

Office [1] - 2:14

often [2] - 24:18,

106:13

old [4] - 11:18, 11:19,

28:14, 51:2

older [5] - 34:25,

44:22, 55:13, 55:24,

88:14

on-site [1] - 22:5

once [9] - 6:16, 8:9,

40:10, 40:19, 43:9,

48:15, 77:14, 94:9,

109:8

one [94] - 5:9, 9:11,

9:23, 11:4, 11:9,

11:10, 15:17, 17:18,

18:17, 18:21, 20:3,

21:18, 22:3, 25:7,

25:18, 28:13, 30:9,

32:20, 33:3, 33:5,

39:15, 40:22, 43:2,

43:11, 43:12, 43:14,

45:14, 45:15, 47:9,

47:22, 55:15, 55:20,

56:3, 56:4, 57:18,

58:10, 60:16, 61:25,

67:13, 68:14, 71:22,

74:16, 75:15, 76:23,

77:19, 79:5, 80:22,

81:1, 81:4, 82:3,

82:6, 82:8, 82:9,

82:10, 82:15, 82:24,

83:9, 83:25, 84:4,

84:10, 85:12, 85:16,

86:6, 89:12, 89:18,

90:16, 90:23, 91:4,

96:2, 97:3, 97:9,

97:22, 98:9, 98:14,

98:19, 98:22, 99:18,

99:24, 105:10,

105:11, 106:11,

107:2, 110:20,

111:5, 111:18,

112:13, 112:16,

112:18, 114:10,

115:9

One [1] - 16:21

ones [3] - 23:25,

31:21, 50:22

online [3] - 40:10,

64:19, 96:10

op [1] - 71:6

op-ed [1] - 71:6

Open [1] - 101:9

open [9] - 12:2, 12:17,

14:16, 101:5, 101:8,

101:11, 102:16,

102:20, 102:22

opinion [4] - 44:19,

66:12, 97:20, 106:8

opinions [2] - 13:10,

96:25

opportunity [8] - 19:8,

23:7, 23:8, 65:19,

69:18, 69:22,

110:21, 116:9

oppose [3] - 76:12,

79:10, 116:24

opposed [4] - 61:24,

73:7, 115:18, 117:5

opposition [1] -

117:24

optimistic [1] - 48:20

option [3] - 34:5, 66:3,

94:22

Oradell [1] - 11:1

orchard [1] - 21:17

order [7] - 6:20, 6:24,

8:9, 57:7, 83:4,

117:15, 117:16

ordinance [2] -

108:18, 108:25

ordinances [2] -

65:24, 66:1

organizations [3] -

42:2, 53:19, 77:23

originally [2] - 71:1,

104:6

ourself [1] - 86:9

ourselves [2] - 86:7,

95:24

outcome [4] - 39:3,

39:5, 109:14, 119:15

outdoor [3] - 45:25,

46:5, 46:7

outmoded [1] - 91:10

outside [4] - 9:8, 11:2,

45:7, 54:6

outsider [1] - 60:5

outsized [1] - 110:14

outstanding [2] -

35:19, 36:7

overall [2] - 62:15,

110:1

overbooked [1] -

14:11

overcome [1] - 18:20

overcrowding [1] -

17:11

overlooked [1] - 58:10

overpopulated [1] -

86:7

overwhelm [1] - 25:12

overwhelming [3] -

60:15, 60:19, 84:14

owe [1] - 41:16

own [13] - 19:6, 35:21,

41:20, 47:12, 48:11,

62:2, 78:24, 78:25,

80:2, 81:3, 89:16,

89:22, 97:24

owned [1] - 81:4

owner [1] - 18:23

owners [1] - 15:2

owners' [1] - 24:15

ownership [1] - 70:16

P

P.C [1] - 2:6

p.m [1] - 118:11

P.M [1] - 1:2

P.O [3] - 1:23, 2:11,

2:23

PADOVANO [1] - 2:17

page [5] - 16:10,

101:20, 102:14,

103:19, 103:23

PAGE [2] - 3:2, 4:3

paid [3] - 27:20, 43:8,

92:20

Palisades [1] - 106:5

pals [1] - 31:25

paper [1] - 59:22

papers [1] - 16:7

paragraph [1] - 26:18

Paramus [2] - 2:12,

64:8

parcel [2] - 71:11,

71:12

parcels [1] - 71:9

pardon [1] - 82:5

parents [8] - 21:22,

48:13, 67:24, 88:14,

88:19, 88:20, 88:21,

94:2

parents' [1] - 89:8

park [3] - 15:17,

28:14, 63:9

Park [2] - 15:18, 106:5

parked [1] - 83:5

parking [56] - 5:6,

5:10, 15:4, 15:22,

17:18, 17:22, 23:20,

36:13, 42:23, 43:22,

45:12, 56:3, 58:11,

58:14, 58:17, 58:21,

59:25, 61:6, 61:7,

61:9, 63:9, 64:23,

72:13, 72:18, 77:17,

77:18, 80:16, 80:17,

80:18, 80:23, 82:15,

83:6, 83:7, 83:17,

83:18, 83:22, 84:14,

86:18, 88:17, 91:17,

99:6, 102:16,

105:23, 105:25,

110:2, 111:25, 112:2

parks [1] - 14:9

part [5] - 53:19, 67:18,

76:19, 95:6, 107:3

participants [1] -

14:21

participation [1] -

115:5

particular [2] - 76:5,

76:12

parties [5] - 6:1, 6:7,

8:25, 9:3, 119:12

Parties [3] - 2:12,

2:16, 2:19

parts [1] - 63:6

party [1] - 10:2

pass [5] - 7:12, 7:14,

18:12, 28:21, 28:22

passed [3] - 47:7,

62:9, 94:4

past [8] - 14:16, 14:19,

19:20, 25:14, 29:11,

34:2, 78:25, 105:8

Pat [4] - 3:20, 50:1,

58:3, 58:4

PAT [1] - 58:6

Paterson [2] - 50:11,

50:16

patio [1] - 45:14

PAUL [2] - 1:12, 78:20

Paul [8] - 4:8, 78:16,

78:22, 81:22, 81:23,

84:20, 95:7, 99:6

pay [5] - 34:6, 48:8,

48:10, 105:12,

105:17

paying [2] - 57:2,

105:14

PBS [1] - 44:13

pedestrian [2] - 61:7,

88:4

pending [1] - 79:20

pent [1] - 40:11

pent-up [1] - 40:11

people [97] - 8:6,

12:12, 12:15, 12:17,


131

16:21, 18:15, 19:2,

20:6, 22:15, 22:16,

27:23, 28:7, 30:7,

31:12, 32:3, 32:19,

34:4, 34:11, 34:22,

34:23, 35:1, 35:3,

36:7, 43:5, 44:15,

45:25, 46:5, 49:14,

49:20, 50:23, 54:13,

54:19, 55:19, 56:20,

58:8, 58:15, 58:19,

60:8, 60:11, 62:24,

64:23, 65:2, 67:20,

67:24, 68:20, 69:21,

71:11, 71:20, 73:9,

74:1, 74:18, 74:23,

75:24, 76:1, 77:20,

79:10, 80:2, 80:24,

83:1, 83:10, 83:23,

84:15, 86:7, 88:9,

89:13, 90:1, 90:2,

91:6, 91:7, 91:19,

94:7, 94:15, 94:22,

94:23, 95:18, 96:22,

97:7, 98:16, 99:7,

99:13, 101:14,

105:1, 106:6,

106:16, 112:15,

116:7, 116:8,

116:17, 116:25,

117:4, 117:12

per [14] - 14:23, 15:1,

24:1, 24:3, 27:5,

37:11, 51:24, 71:13,

71:25, 77:19, 98:1,

101:23, 101:25,

113:13

perceived [2] - 10:7,

97:18

percent [7] - 16:16,

16:17, 16:19, 74:12,

113:5, 113:7

percentage [1] - 14:7

perfect [1] - 25:6

perfectly [1] - 35:11

performance [1] -

60:7

perhaps [8] - 5:14,

20:15, 56:4, 77:25,

82:17, 92:19,

113:16, 115:17

perimeter [1] - 17:19

period [3] - 6:23,

109:9, 116:2

periods [1] - 10:4

permanent [2] - 64:6,

64:13

permits [1] - 30:8

permitted [4] - 6:8,

14:5, 14:23, 15:1


persistence [1] -

49:11

person [16] - 10:14,

21:25, 22:21, 45:4,

47:23, 59:3, 61:17,

69:24, 81:14, 83:2,

89:6, 97:3, 98:9,

98:14, 98:24

personal [2] - 12:1,

51:13

personally [4] - 79:14,

80:9, 86:13, 112:18

persons [2] - 9:16,

37:2

perspective [3] - 39:7,

70:15, 70:18

Peters [1] - 69:9

PETERS [29] - 1:17,

12:8, 12:13, 12:19,

20:20, 21:1, 36:25,

38:14, 45:24, 46:4,

46:8, 46:11, 46:17,

46:19, 57:17, 57:24,

81:25, 82:6, 82:13,

82:22, 84:22, 111:5,

111:9, 114:10,

114:13, 114:21,

114:24, 115:2, 118:3

petition [3] - 9:7, 13:7,

13:24

petitions [1] - 8:23

PHILIP [1] - 18:9

Philip [3] - 3:6, 18:4,

18:7

phonetic [2] - 41:20,

107:11

pick [3] - 51:10, 89:7,

109:5

place [16] - 31:22,

39:24, 44:17, 44:21,

47:14, 52:22, 53:10,

55:14, 61:2, 83:21,

86:6, 86:21, 94:5,

94:8, 94:12, 106:17

Place [3] - 21:8, 29:6,

73:4

places [6] - 28:2,

63:10, 90:2, 91:4,

95:17, 106:15

Plan [27] - 5:20, 25:17,

65:25, 66:1, 66:3,

71:2, 73:8, 73:10,

73:14, 74:2, 75:14,

76:16, 77:2, 77:14,

78:9, 79:10, 79:15,

87:2, 95:21, 101:4,

101:24, 102:19,

102:21, 103:4,

103:5, 108:15,

109:25

plan [3] - 26:8, 86:21,

110:1

PLAN [2] - 1:5, 1:5

Planner [2] - 76:9,

102:10

planner [2] - 25:23,

25:25

planner's [1] - 15:24

PLANNING [2] - 1:1,

1:9

planning [6] - 23:16,

26:14, 68:15,

101:15, 104:11

Planning [18] - 2:9,

9:25, 10:3, 13:6,

13:8, 15:20, 20:15,

21:12, 24:13, 24:24,

48:22, 76:9, 77:4,

95:20, 96:24,

100:21, 102:8,

102:24

plans [4] - 28:5, 61:24,

93:7, 106:24

planting [1] - 28:15

plaque [1] - 17:11

play [1] - 62:23

pleasure [1] - 84:23

plenty [1] - 73:21

plus [4] - 35:24, 36:14,

38:20, 57:20

pockets [1] - 56:16

podium [1] - 9:12

point [13] - 8:2, 9:22,

22:3, 39:2, 65:19,

69:5, 72:4, 77:11,

84:12, 87:14, 89:12,

102:6, 115:3

pointed [1] - 63:15

points [4] - 35:18,

85:18, 90:6, 105:2

police [1] - 66:20

political [3] - 29:13,

30:12, 116:8

poor [1] - 101:15

population [6] - 44:17,

53:17, 60:17, 61:13,

74:10, 74:11

poses [1] - 23:19

positive [2] - 27:2,

56:10

possibility [1] - 92:1

possible [5] - 37:9,

50:15, 94:21,

105:19, 115:15

possibly [1] - 57:18

poster [1] - 42:15

potentially [3] - 5:6,

36:13, 71:21

power [1] - 66:24

powerful [1] - 67:2

practical [1] - 108:23

practice [2] - 9:10,

108:24

precedent [5] - 13:22,

13:24, 36:16, 37:17,

38:2

precisely [1] - 13:23

predict [1] - 91:17

predictions [1] - 77:15

preference [2] - 17:4,

53:6

preferences [1] -

16:24

preferred [2] - 53:10,

109:14

prejudice [1] - 60:23

premise [2] - 75:15,

76:20

prepared [4] - 5:2,

63:13, 66:3, 100:24

Presbyterian [1] - 5:9

present [3] - 6:9, 8:25,

69:10

PRESENT [1] - 1:9

presented [1] - 8:22

presenting [1] - 35:23

presently [1] - 19:7

presents [1] - 15:21

Preservation [1] -

41:23

president [4] - 52:17,

78:15, 78:16, 79:3

presidential [1] -

35:19

presidents [1] - 79:4

pressure [1] - 16:4

pressures [1] - 15:25

pretty [5] - 21:19,

42:24, 60:19, 99:3,

102:4

prevalent [1] - 17:7

prevent [1] - 17:10

PRICE [8] - 2:6, 2:7,

103:15, 103:22,

104:1, 104:4,

104:10, 104:13

price [1] - 50:15

prices [1] - 67:6

primarily [1] - 22:5

primary [2] - 71:4,

106:18

princess [1] - 46:16

priority [1] - 99:19

privilege [2] - 41:15,

41:16

problem [13] - 15:21,

18:19, 42:11, 42:13,

49:11, 49:13, 49:15,

65:3, 76:8, 76:18,

76:23, 83:22, 114:4

problems [2] - 63:18,

64:16

procedural [1] - 9:23

procedure [2] - 6:15,

10:8

procedures [2] - 9:21,

10:1

proceed [7] - 8:3,

8:15, 10:13, 26:5,

66:12, 103:6, 103:8

proceeding [1] - 69:5

PROCEEDINGS [1] -

1:4

process [24] - 6:3, 6:5,

9:9, 10:1, 10:12,

18:14, 20:16, 37:3,

58:11, 66:14, 69:20,

70:12, 80:22, 91:1,

95:2, 115:11,

115:17, 115:18,

115:21, 116:5,

116:21, 117:6,

117:12

product [1] - 67:24

productively [1] -

109:15

Professional [1] -

102:10

professional [2] -

71:11, 93:6

professionals [1] -

91:15

profit [4] - 23:15,

55:20, 55:21, 55:22

profitable [2] - 24:2,

55:16

profits [1] - 24:14

profound [1] - 64:21

project [3] - 28:8,

30:11, 37:8

projected [2] - 92:3,

110:3

projections [1] - 92:2

projects [2] - 37:12,

68:13

prom [1] - 96:5

Promenade [1] - 25:2

promotional [1] - 16:3

promptly [3] - 8:1,

9:15, 10:9

pronounce [1] - 35:12

proof [3] - 40:8,

108:21, 109:23

proper [1] - 101:15

properly [1] - 27:3

properties [7] - 23:25,

79:17, 91:10, 95:7,

95:22, 108:7, 113:4

property [11] - 17:17,

17:24, 18:23, 24:15,


132

27:21, 48:11, 79:1,

92:16, 105:17,

109:17

proponent [3] - 11:6,

12:15, 22:9

proposal [7] - 26:4,

38:19, 71:1, 71:2,

73:10, 74:2, 108:8

proposals [5] - 56:3,

73:25, 97:25, 99:24,

109:22

proposed [19] - 33:2,

38:13, 68:9, 72:22,

73:8, 82:14, 92:6,

101:7, 102:5, 102:7,

102:13, 102:15,

102:19, 111:22,

113:1, 113:6,

113:12, 113:19,

113:21

proposing [1] - 109:7

proposition [2] - 23:9,

71:15

prospects [1] - 43:10

prospers [1] - 11:21

prove [1] - 109:23

provide [12] - 10:17,

18:5, 21:5, 28:1,

46:24, 49:2, 61:10,

67:21, 68:1, 70:2,

93:2, 107:23

provided [2] - 101:20,

119:9

provides [1] - 17:24

prudent [1] - 40:24

prudently [1] - 110:16

pry [1] - 89:14

PTA [1] - 41:19

Public [2] - 119:7,

119:23

public [18] - 5:19,

5:24, 6:4, 6:13, 6:19,

6:21, 6:22, 8:19,

9:25, 10:5, 10:7,

13:7, 13:9, 14:8,

20:12, 68:25, 69:2,

118:6

PUBLIC [1] - 1:4

purchased [1] - 96:5

purpose [2] - 6:10,

108:16

pushback [1] - 24:19

pushed [2] - 24:18,

81:14

put [15] - 9:3, 38:5,

42:18, 43:3, 43:7,

48:12, 49:21, 64:20,

65:23, 76:11, 79:19,

86:22, 100:2,

108:20, 114:4


putting [3] - 40:9,

62:6, 97:22

Q

quadrupling [1] -

23:12

quantified [1] - 76:10

quantify [1] - 77:12

quarter [1] - 107:10

questions [4] - 6:10,

10:13, 26:23, 65:21

quick [3] - 15:19, 85:7,

114:14

quickly [3] - 53:5,

87:13, 105:3

quite [8] - 12:12,

19:14, 49:21, 66:19,

70:11, 70:12,

105:18, 111:24

quote [1] - 16:9

quoting [1] - 16:14

R

R.P.R [2] - 1:22, 2:22

rabbit [1] - 87:3

RAFTERY [2] - 52:8,

52:10

Raftery [2] - 3:18, 52:8

railroad [1] - 112:16

raise [3] - 7:21, 52:22,

94:5

raised [7] - 21:23,

41:12, 53:2, 67:14,

87:18, 93:24, 94:18

raising [1] - 57:6

raked [1] - 27:20

Ralph [1] - 101:8

random [1] - 60:2

range [1] - 26:9

rate [1] - 103:6

rateables [4] - 19:12,

19:13, 19:17, 19:22

rates [2] - 86:2, 86:10

rather [5] - 10:8, 17:6,

65:25, 89:13, 112:20

ratio [4] - 113:5,

113:9, 113:15,

114:16

rational [1] - 110:2

ratios [1] - 113:6

RAZIN [1] - 2:7

reached [3] - 12:16,

53:15

read [6] - 7:22, 31:1,

59:22, 60:1, 71:6

ready [3] - 10:12, 53:5,

88:14

reaffirm [1] - 73:18

real [8] - 24:11, 42:13,

70:17, 70:18, 71:10,

71:18, 114:14,

115:12

reality [3] - 36:5, 88:8,

88:13

realize [4] - 20:3, 74:1,

99:9, 100:5

really [41] - 17:16,

17:23, 18:16, 22:7,

24:22, 28:1, 34:22,

34:23, 35:19, 36:15,

36:16, 37:16, 37:17,

37:25, 38:2, 39:16,

47:25, 55:25, 58:16,

62:4, 62:7, 62:12,

64:3, 67:11, 67:12,

68:12, 73:18, 73:20,

75:1, 76:24, 77:9,

78:8, 84:16, 86:11,

86:15, 87:1, 88:23,

89:11, 90:19,

105:24, 117:5

Realtime [1] - 119:6

reap [1] - 56:13

reason [12] - 10:24,

20:22, 25:18, 25:21,

71:4, 73:21, 85:14,

95:12, 106:8,

106:17, 106:21,

116:4

reasonable [3] -

28:10, 50:7, 109:19

reasons [6] - 16:21,

25:16, 85:12, 97:16,

98:20, 98:23

receive [1] - 7:6

recent [1] - 76:16

recently [1] - 42:4

recess [1] - 68:23

recklessly [1] - 110:16

recognize [1] - 115:11

record [4] - 7:5, 7:23,

10:10, 119:8

recovering [1] - 110:6

recreation [4] - 14:9,

14:10, 15:23, 74:22

recreational [2] - 60:7,

102:20

redevelopers [1] -

75:3

redevelopment [3] -

70:23, 72:21, 74:5

reduce [1] - 71:25

reduced [1] - 65:1

referee [1] - 119:10

referred [2] - 103:17,

103:19

referring [1] - 66:18

reflect [1] - 68:4

regard [1] - 102:3

regarding [2] - 5:21,

57:19

Registered [1] - 119:5

regs [1] - 102:2

regular [1] - 89:9

regulation [1] - 119:18

Reilly [1] - 69:10

reinvest [1] - 48:10

related [2] - 119:12,

119:14

released [1] - 16:15

relieve [1] - 107:2

relocate [2] - 16:22,

34:4

relying [1] - 103:10

remain [3] - 19:18,

65:23, 80:11

remaining [1] - 8:6

remains [1] - 14:16

remember [3] - 6:2,

23:14, 54:9

renderings [1] -

112:25

renovated [1] - 81:9

rent [5] - 19:7, 61:3,

67:6, 86:1, 105:11

rental [4] - 19:2, 53:9,

68:9, 86:10

rented [1] - 81:5

renter [1] - 60:13

renters [2] - 60:14,

60:20

rents [2] - 84:4, 105:9

repair [1] - 66:20

repeat [1] - 77:8

repeatedly [1] - 75:14

repetitive [1] - 9:19

report [7] - 101:20,

102:1, 102:14,

102:22, 103:19,

103:20, 103:23

Reporter [3] - 119:5,

119:6

REPORTERS [2] -

1:23, 2:23

reports [2] - 103:17,

104:8

represented [1] - 8:14

reputation [3] - 52:21,

54:17, 54:19

request [2] - 23:14,

109:1

requested [3] - 23:10,

50:7, 72:2

required [1] - 23:11

requirements [1] -

42:24

reschedule [1] - 5:14

rescheduling [1] -

5:12

research [3] - 74:6,

102:1, 115:8

reside [1] - 21:8

resident [10] - 27:18,

29:7, 41:10, 52:13,

70:13, 70:15, 79:9,

80:9, 90:15, 93:23

residential [4] - 64:10,

64:12, 79:1, 102:3

residents [25] - 11:23,

13:19, 14:4, 14:7,

14:12, 19:3, 19:5,

21:12, 26:11, 33:3,

51:3, 53:15, 64:4,

70:20, 70:23, 75:18,

77:10, 92:7, 101:11,

101:12, 102:11,

103:11, 108:20,

111:6, 116:6

residents' [1] - 115:4

residing [1] - 18:8

resisted [1] - 90:18

resourceful [2] -

71:19, 71:25

respect [4] - 9:14,

79:10, 102:20, 115:5

respond [2] - 67:16,

101:14

responsibility [1] -

26:8

responsible [8] - 22:1,

36:10, 36:17, 37:4,

37:10, 39:11, 39:17,

87:1

responsive [1] - 63:25

rest [3] - 48:12, 55:25,

107:19

restaurant [1] - 78:25

restaurants [2] -

27:25, 80:6

restore [1] - 109:22

restricted [1] - 57:20

result [1] - 13:11

results [1] - 68:15

resume [3] - 68:22,

68:25, 69:2

retail [9] - 24:12, 54:2,

54:4, 54:11, 64:18,

64:19, 72:15, 72:18,

74:5

retailing [1] - 72:12

retired [3] - 51:5, 51:7

retirees [2] - 72:2,

105:6

retires [1] - 44:14

return [4] - 8:1, 15:3,


133

91:11, 96:9

returned [1] - 96:6

reunion [1] - 112:5

revenues [2] - 66:24,

67:2

reverse [2] - 65:25,

66:2

review [5] - 6:15, 8:20,

66:2, 102:4, 109:24

reviewed [1] - 102:19

revitalization [1] -

111:19

RICHARD [1] - 1:11

Richards [1] - 87:10

ride [1] - 63:20

Ridge [5] - 2:18,

11:18, 12:10, 21:16,

85:17

Ridgewood [124] -

5:15, 10:20, 11:2,

11:3, 11:4, 11:16,

11:24, 13:2, 13:21,

14:6, 15:12, 16:2,

17:13, 18:8, 19:1,

19:4, 19:8, 19:18,

19:21, 20:6, 21:12,

21:17, 22:7, 22:11,

23:7, 23:19, 23:25,

24:6, 24:14, 24:16,

25:1, 25:8, 25:11,

25:25, 26:17, 26:20,

27:3, 27:19, 27:25,

28:12, 28:16, 29:6,

29:10, 29:20, 30:1,

30:20, 31:15, 31:18,

31:23, 32:9, 32:18,

32:21, 32:23, 33:8,

33:14, 39:24, 41:6,

41:10, 41:15, 41:17,

41:21, 41:24, 42:3,

42:4, 42:9, 47:15,

48:17, 52:12, 52:13,

52:16, 52:19, 52:21,

53:7, 53:13, 53:14,

53:16, 53:17, 53:20,

53:21, 54:15, 54:18,

56:14, 58:12, 61:20,

62:25, 65:15, 66:8,

70:13, 70:21, 71:7,

72:19, 73:17, 75:16,

75:19, 79:21, 84:4,

84:9, 85:11, 87:20,

89:2, 91:3, 92:14,

93:19, 93:23, 94:12,

95:15, 96:19, 97:11,

98:22, 99:14, 99:15,

100:22, 101:9,

101:10, 101:18,

101:22, 102:7,

102:11, 106:17,


107:25, 112:9,

112:10

RIDGEWOOD [2] -

1:1, 1:9

Ridgewood's [6] -

14:3, 30:10, 44:1,

54:17, 54:18, 101:24

Ridgewoodian [2] -

21:14, 85:5

rise [1] - 13:7

rises [1] - 33:23

risk [6] - 57:6, 97:22,

100:3, 110:8,

110:10, 110:14

risks [3] - 23:19,

108:10, 110:11

River [4] - 25:25, 26:2,

26:6, 26:20

Rivera [1] - 78:23

RMR [1] - 119:22

road [3] - 18:8, 30:17,

66:20

Road [6] - 2:18, 22:23,

35:14, 55:8, 70:6,

87:10

Robert [3] - 4:5, 73:2,

73:3

ROBERT [1] - 73:5

robust [1] - 95:5

Rock [1] - 31:4

role [1] - 20:13

roll [2] - 69:4, 69:5

rolling [1] - 20:13

RON [1] - 90:11

Ron [3] - 4:11, 90:9,

90:13

room [6] - 60:11,

63:22, 65:4, 75:17,

79:8, 82:14

roots [1] - 53:8

roughly [1] - 69:14

Route [3] - 2:11, 2:15,

25:3

rude [1] - 10:8

rule [2] - 9:2, 98:15

rules [2] - 6:14, 27:10

rundown [1] - 29:20

rural [1] - 16:18

RURIK [2] - 29:3, 29:5

Rurik [3] - 3:10, 28:24,

29:5

RUSCH [11] - 100:10,

100:11, 100:12,

100:14, 103:21,

103:24, 104:3,

104:7, 104:12,

104:14, 104:17

Rusch [4] - 4:14,

100:9, 100:11,

104:16

rush [1] - 73:22

rustbelt [2] - 29:23,

29:25

Rutherford [1] - 2:15

S

sad [1] - 70:20

Saddle [4] - 25:25,

26:2, 26:6, 26:19

SADDLE [2] - 1:24,

2:24

sadness [1] - 30:15

safety [1] - 102:16

sales [1] - 60:16

salons [1] - 80:6

sample [1] - 60:25

sanitation [1] - 66:20

Saraceno [1] - 90:16

sat [3] - 11:12, 34:11,

85:13

satisfy [1] - 73:22

satisfying [1] - 75:2

save [1] - 16:2

saw [3] - 64:8, 115:10

scale [1] - 25:19

scheduled [1] - 5:19

scheme [1] - 67:10

Schmidt [4] - 3:23,

65:12, 65:13, 68:19

SCHMIDT [4] - 65:13,

65:14, 65:16, 65:18

school [31] - 14:6,

21:18, 32:12, 32:14,

32:22, 34:19, 36:8,

36:14, 40:16, 41:13,

47:15, 48:16, 60:7,

60:17, 62:6, 62:15,

62:19, 66:18, 67:15,

69:21, 74:20, 81:7,

81:11, 85:21, 92:9,

93:25, 94:10, 99:2,

106:20, 110:3, 112:5

School [4] - 11:18,

21:16, 21:18, 42:9

school-aged [5] -

32:14, 40:16, 81:7,

81:11, 85:21

school-wise [1] -

106:20

schoolchildren [1] -

86:18

Schoolhouse [2] -

27:23, 45:4

schoolhouse [1] -

53:11

schoolkids [2] -

86:21, 99:1

schools [19] - 14:8,

23:20, 47:25, 48:2,

48:5, 52:22, 60:10,

60:15, 61:12, 67:14,

74:20, 86:8, 86:18,

97:17, 98:19, 98:20,

98:22, 100:3, 102:15

SCHOTT [4] - 12:25,

13:1, 13:3, 13:5

Schott [4] - 3:4, 12:24,

13:1, 15:16

scope [4] - 9:8, 25:4,

98:12, 98:17

Scott [3] - 3:22, 61:17,

61:18

SCOTT [2] - 61:18,

61:21

screaming [1] - 87:19

scrunched [1] - 50:14

Sealfon's [2] - 22:12,

54:10

search [1] - 97:10

seat [2] - 8:2, 33:18

seats [1] - 69:1

second [7] - 13:7,

13:22, 45:3, 45:15,

66:6, 85:14, 108:17

secondly [1] - 109:8

seconds [3] - 44:14,

99:23, 113:23

SECRETARY [1] - 2:4

sections [1] - 98:1

sector [1] - 20:12

see [25] - 16:1, 18:25,

19:25, 22:13, 22:14,

22:15, 28:13, 34:4,

34:24, 44:17, 48:13,

56:6, 63:9, 68:5,

70:23, 70:24, 81:17,

84:6, 84:7, 86:13,

92:21, 92:23,

106:24, 115:19

seeing [2] - 40:23,

114:5

seeking [5] - 9:3,

13:23, 23:15, 26:2,

65:22

seem [1] - 30:16

seldom [1] - 91:24

sell [2] - 53:5, 105:15

send [1] - 100:22

senior [2] - 96:4,

105:13

seniors [1] - 112:12

sense [2] - 53:22, 99:3

separate [1] - 104:8

sequence [3] - 6:25,

7:2, 8:3

serious [4] - 26:21,

49:13, 49:14, 62:15

serve [1] - 101:11

service [1] - 58:19

services [2] - 23:20,

53:20

serving [1] - 88:19

session [1] - 118:7

set [7] - 13:23, 31:19,

36:15, 36:16, 91:9,

93:11, 102:21

sets [1] - 38:1

setting [2] - 24:7,

37:17

settling [1] - 14:25

seven [1] - 110:5

several [5] - 19:20,

28:12, 57:11, 72:5

severe [1] - 53:8

shame [1] - 94:25

share [4] - 32:10,

60:3, 65:19, 71:17

sheet [2] - 6:25, 59:4

shift [1] - 89:20

shifted [1] - 108:22

shoe [1] - 58:18

shop [4] - 22:11,

34:17, 90:1, 95:18

shoppers [1] - 54:10

shopping [3] - 44:3,

89:2, 96:5

shops [4] - 58:15,

61:8, 95:16

short [5] - 9:20, 17:8,

59:14, 68:23, 109:9

shortage [1] - 53:8

shoved [1] - 79:3

shoveled [1] - 27:21

shoveling [1] - 22:1

showing [1] - 92:24

SHULMAN [1] - 2:6

shut [2] - 39:8, 86:20

sick [1] - 85:15

side [3] - 11:9, 11:10,

67:1

sides [4] - 11:9, 47:23,

55:2, 96:25

sign [8] - 5:15, 6:19,

6:23, 6:24, 7:1, 43:4,

63:10, 88:18

sign-up [1] - 6:24

signed [3] - 43:4,

59:3, 59:6

significant [5] - 50:25,

51:2, 72:18, 94:13,

116:2

significantly [1] -

37:19

signs [3] - 16:1, 63:9,

63:13

similar [5] - 26:25,

30:2, 40:3, 98:5,

98:7


134

SIMONCINI [7] -

90:11, 90:13, 90:14,

115:1, 116:1, 117:9,

117:23

Simoncini [8] - 4:11,

90:10, 90:13, 93:16,

111:6, 111:9,

114:25, 118:5

simple [1] - 36:5

simply [5] - 7:12,

71:22, 89:3, 95:13,

102:7

single [5] - 17:5,

21:25, 27:25, 83:1,

99:17

sink [1] - 110:11

sit [1] - 49:19

site [2] - 19:21, 22:5

sites [4] - 15:24, 54:2,

64:9, 66:4

sitting [1] - 91:8

situation [6] - 5:7,

29:12, 70:19, 85:10,

116:9, 116:10

situations [2] - 90:23,

90:24

six [5] - 21:23, 41:11,

43:1, 60:18, 88:11

size [7] - 17:1, 25:4,

65:1, 93:8, 98:12,

98:17, 114:2

sized [1] - 35:5

slam [1] - 55:18

sleep [1] - 90:19

slightly [1] - 101:23

slim [1] - 92:1

slippery [2] - 71:8,

73:24

Slomin [3] - 3:8,

22:21, 22:22

SLOMIN [4] - 22:22,

22:24, 23:1

slope [2] - 71:8, 73:24

slow [4] - 56:6, 56:12,

57:16, 103:6

slowly [2] - 7:4, 57:7

small [14] - 13:18,

23:21, 25:12, 33:4,

33:6, 42:19, 42:21,

45:15, 73:20, 81:3,

93:11, 106:16, 112:7

small-town [4] -

13:18, 23:21, 25:12,

106:16

smaller [2] - 63:4,

110:17

smart [1] - 86:15

Smith [3] - 17:17,

17:23, 58:23

so.. [1] - 23:4


social [2] - 60:23,

77:23

socialize [1] - 30:9

socioeconomic [1] -

30:2

Solomon [1] - 37:5

solution [3] - 22:17,

72:17, 110:1

solutions [2] - 61:5,

61:9

solved [1] - 42:11

someone [12] - 6:21,

18:13, 20:11, 20:14,

20:15, 28:7, 29:22,

34:8, 34:14, 54:6,

62:13, 70:16

sometime [1] - 74:6

sometimes [1] - 90:19

somewhat [3] - 92:3,

95:6, 98:3

somewhere [3] -

11:11, 27:5, 28:16

son [2] - 41:12, 42:17

soon [1] - 40:5

sooner [1] - 50:19

sophisticated [1] -

117:12

sophistication [1] -

116:12

sorry [4] - 35:9, 36:25,

37:1, 100:5

sort [2] - 11:7, 116:15

sought [1] - 20:1

sound [1] - 110:10

southeast [2] - 106:3,

106:4

space [19] - 14:16,

15:22, 16:23, 45:7,

45:10, 45:25, 46:5,

46:7, 82:15, 95:22,

101:5, 101:8,

101:11, 102:16,

102:20, 102:22,

105:23

Space [1] - 101:9

spaces [4] - 15:5,

70:24, 95:25, 105:25

speaker [6] - 7:13,

7:16, 7:17, 8:8, 9:12,

21:2

SPEAKER [2] - 3:2,

4:3

speakers [1] - 6:24

speaking [9] - 6:21,

7:11, 12:17, 18:13,

38:23, 42:1, 42:2,

104:7, 115:6

speaks [1] - 96:3

specific [5] - 10:24,

25:21, 76:10, 76:25,

91:9

specifically [1] - 11:4

speeches [1] - 35:18

speeding [1] - 66:2

spell [8] - 7:4, 10:16,

18:5, 21:4, 39:22,

46:24, 49:1, 70:2

spend [3] - 74:19,

74:24, 79:6

spending [1] - 70:10

spent [3] - 10:24,

54:24, 87:18

spirit [1] - 103:5

splitting [1] - 37:6

spoiled [1] - 99:17

spoken [1] - 84:7

sports [3] - 52:18,

60:7, 61:12

spot [6] - 13:19,

31:16, 58:14, 58:23,

108:9, 109:6

spots [1] - 91:22

spread [1] - 107:3

Spring [1] - 41:12

square [2] - 26:7,

50:12

St [1] - 5:16

stability [1] - 53:22

stage [3] - 13:10,

52:25, 53:15

stand [2] - 59:23,

116:24

standard [3] - 64:3,

91:18, 108:24

standards [2] - 14:17,

26:21

standing [2] - 63:22,

116:23

standing-room [1] -

63:22

start [5] - 6:2, 80:6,

85:7, 89:8, 96:23

started [2] - 83:6,

109:1

starting [1] - 71:7

starts [1] - 20:13

State [2] - 119:7,

119:11

state [13] - 10:16,

14:17, 18:5, 21:4,

39:21, 46:23, 49:1,

58:24, 70:1, 91:18,

91:21, 101:13,

102:23

statement [4] - 5:2,

6:22, 7:22, 8:1

statements [4] - 8:24,

9:15, 9:19, 60:14

stating [2] - 12:9,

75:15

station [1] - 17:19

statute [1] - 119:11

stay [16] - 19:3, 28:16,

28:17, 47:10, 47:12,

51:14, 51:15, 75:19,

77:11, 94:12, 94:20,

94:22, 98:15, 99:15,

107:2

stayed [2] - 31:15,

43:7

staying [2] - 32:4, 32:7

steady [1] - 103:6

steering [1] - 89:14

step [6] - 6:5, 20:16,

46:15, 80:22, 86:16,

87:21

stepped [1] - 96:8

stepping [1] - 88:25

Stevens [1] - 61:19

stewards [1] - 103:10

still [15] - 13:17,

16:12, 24:8, 43:11,

49:22, 56:25, 65:20,

66:7, 68:12, 88:3,

107:12, 111:9,

112:7, 114:5, 115:1

stone [1] - 77:13

stood [1] - 62:9

stop [2] - 32:20,

116:15

stopped [1] - 116:15

stores [4] - 70:22,

80:3, 80:24, 112:6

story [7] - 11:9, 13:19,

17:8, 17:18, 85:8,

85:18, 96:2

strain [1] - 14:13

strains [1] - 14:3

strategic [1] - 110:1

strategy [2] - 67:4,

76:24

street [1] - 7:5

Street [16] - 16:10,

21:20, 22:2, 27:14,

31:21, 33:14, 39:4,

41:6, 43:5, 43:12,

47:1, 58:5, 58:18,

65:14, 100:11,

107:25

streets [1] - 50:16

strenuous [1] - 100:17

stress [1] - 62:6

stressed [1] - 14:11

stressful [1] - 100:18

strike [1] - 32:15

strikes [1] - 61:25

striking [1] - 65:4

strong [3] - 39:13,

64:17, 64:22

strongly [2] - 61:23,

89:24

struck [1] - 62:12

structured [1] - 35:21

structures [1] - 113:1

struggled [1] - 76:19

struggling [1] -

111:21

studied [1] - 27:3

studio [1] - 112:17

studios [1] - 112:18

stuff [1] - 86:24

stumbling [1] - 18:17

style [1] - 15:5

styles [1] - 50:12

subject [1] - 30:16

subjective [1] - 44:5

submission [1] -

104:2

submitted [3] - 8:18,

8:20, 115:24

suburban [1] - 16:11

suburbs [3] - 16:13,

16:17, 17:4

succeed [2] - 20:11,

76:21

successful [2] -

115:21, 115:22

sucking [1] - 92:23

sudden [2] - 38:9,

40:12

suddenly [1] - 64:20

suggest [2] - 113:15,

113:22

suggestion [1] - 56:2

suggests [1] - 17:4

Suite [1] - 2:15

SULLIVAN [1] - 78:14

Sullivan [2] - 4:7,

78:13

sum [2] - 35:25, 39:16

summary [1] - 110:5

superintendent [1] -

48:2

support [6] - 11:16,

28:5, 68:13, 75:21,

79:15, 95:25

surprised [1] - 50:19

surprisingly [1] - 26:4

surrender [1] - 14:24

surrogate [1] - 88:19

surrounding [1] -

112:24

survey [3] - 16:15,

112:15, 112:20

survive [1] - 24:3

SUSAN [1] - 1:13

suspect [2] - 63:22,

67:23

sustainable [1] - 89:3


135

swap [1] - 17:22

sway [1] - 93:12

swearing [1] - 7:10

swearing-in [1] - 7:10

swim [1] - 39:14

sworn [35] - 7:8,

10:21, 13:3, 15:13,

18:9, 21:9, 22:24,

27:16, 29:3, 31:5,

33:15, 35:15, 39:25,

41:7, 47:2, 49:5,

52:10, 55:9, 58:6,

59:19, 61:21, 65:16,

70:7, 73:5, 75:8,

78:20, 85:2, 87:11,

90:11, 93:20, 96:20,

100:12, 104:22,

108:1, 111:15

system [14] - 29:13,

32:22, 34:20, 36:8,

36:14, 57:14, 60:7,

62:4, 62:6, 63:23,

67:16, 75:20, 94:10,

99:2

systems [1] - 32:12

T

table [3] - 42:6, 66:7,

72:23

task [1] - 54:25

tasked [2] - 97:21,

98:17

tastefully [2] - 33:23,

35:4

taunt [1] - 9:11

tax [6] - 19:13, 56:17,

66:24, 105:14,

105:17, 106:20

tax-wise [1] - 106:20

taxed [1] - 99:2

taxes [9] - 27:20, 34:7,

43:8, 56:21, 57:1,

57:4, 57:6, 57:12,

110:3

taxing [1] - 55:25

tellingly [1] - 108:17

ten [6] - 43:19, 43:20,

68:21, 68:22, 78:7,

107:10

ten-minute [1] - 68:21

term [3] - 19:3, 19:5,

110:3

terms [4] - 52:17,

66:23, 74:19, 115:19

terrace [1] - 104:21

TESS [1] - 41:7

Tess [7] - 3:15, 41:3,

41:4, 45:1, 46:2,


47:5, 75:24

testified [1] - 101:6

testifies [34] - 10:21,

13:3, 15:14, 18:9,

21:9, 22:24, 27:16,

29:3, 31:5, 33:15,

35:15, 39:25, 41:7,

47:2, 49:5, 52:11,

55:9, 58:6, 59:19,

61:22, 65:16, 70:7,

73:5, 75:8, 78:20,

85:2, 87:11, 90:11,

93:20, 96:20,

100:12, 104:22,

108:1, 111:15

testimonies [1] -

37:24

testimony [8] - 5:25,

6:12, 23:6, 92:20,

101:1, 101:2, 102:9,

119:9

testing [1] - 68:14

thanking [1] - 96:23

thankless [1] - 54:24

THE [2] - 1:4, 1:5

theories [1] - 40:23

theory [1] - 68:14

THERE [1] - 1:9

therefore [1] - 41:17

thinking [1] - 22:6

thinks [2] - 98:14,

98:25

third [4] - 14:2, 45:15,

66:16, 85:4

thirds [1] - 113:4

thirst [1] - 50:20

thirty [1] - 41:11

thirty-six [1] - 41:11

THOMAS [3] - 2:10,

2:14, 104:22

Thomas [3] - 4:15,

104:18, 104:20

thorough [1] - 97:3

thoughts [4] - 35:21,

37:15, 60:2, 115:7

thousand [2] - 74:14,

89:22

thousands [1] - 19:22

threaten [1] - 23:17

threatening [1] -

13:17

three [23] - 7:17, 7:18,

7:21, 7:24, 8:10,

8:15, 17:17, 23:4,

28:25, 29:1, 33:21,

37:21, 47:12, 48:7,

49:23, 55:22, 72:10,

80:16, 81:8, 85:14,

94:1, 106:12, 116:23

thrilled [1] - 97:12

throughout [3] -

23:13, 31:14, 76:1

thrust [1] - 90:4

Thursday [3] - 11:17,

85:9, 85:12

THURSTON [1] - 1:16

Thurston [1] - 69:6

Tice [1] - 2:8

tide [1] - 39:13

ties [1] - 53:18

tired [1] - 21:25

tireless [1] - 23:3

title [1] - 16:10

today [4] - 5:17, 24:11,

36:12, 37:19

together [1] - 5:16

tomorrow [1] - 44:21

tone [1] - 68:4

tonight [34] - 5:7,

5:18, 6:13, 6:19, 8:5,

8:20, 28:3, 33:18,

33:19, 34:9, 34:14,

35:18, 58:8, 59:7,

59:10, 65:22, 67:13,

67:18, 69:18, 69:22,

70:10, 70:14, 72:11,

75:14, 76:5, 81:20,

99:22, 99:23, 105:4,

107:13, 110:25,

115:16, 116:22,

117:4

tonight's [4] - 5:12,

5:15, 118:6, 118:7

TONY [1] - 33:15

Tony [3] - 3:12, 33:12,

33:13

took [5] - 43:14,

49:12, 76:16, 97:5,

107:17

top [3] - 72:10, 72:12,

110:9

topic [3] - 60:2, 67:20,

99:11

topics [1] - 59:25

total [1] - 47:8

totally [3] - 36:8, 36:9,

86:24

tour [1] - 21:19

town [87] - 11:2,

11:21, 12:4, 13:18,

15:16, 18:16, 18:22,

19:11, 19:12, 19:14,

20:12, 22:15, 22:16,

23:13, 23:21, 24:23,

25:12, 26:7, 31:8,

31:9, 32:18, 34:1,

34:3, 34:4, 34:10,

36:5, 36:15, 38:1,

38:2, 38:5, 39:5,

39:6, 40:20, 42:19,

43:2, 43:12, 43:19,

47:7, 49:20, 49:23,

49:25, 54:16, 56:7,

56:9, 56:18, 57:6,

62:15, 63:4, 63:18,

67:9, 72:11, 73:12,

73:17, 73:20, 74:7,

74:14, 76:1, 77:5,

77:11, 77:21, 77:24,

78:25, 79:1, 79:9,

79:13, 79:22, 79:23,

80:16, 81:3, 85:6,

85:20, 85:22, 86:16,

89:10, 95:25, 97:10,

98:10, 99:5, 105:14,

105:21, 105:24,

106:16, 107:4,

112:6, 112:7, 112:8

townhouses [1] -

31:13

towns [11] - 11:22,

30:1, 30:5, 43:24,

44:2, 74:7, 90:25,

97:5, 101:21,

101:22, 116:13

Township [1] - 53:13

township [1] - 52:9

TRACEY [2] - 59:17,

59:19

Tracey [3] - 3:21,

59:15, 59:16

track [1] - 99:19

tracks [1] - 112:16

traffic [19] - 22:11,

22:13, 28:4, 34:15,

53:24, 54:1, 54:2,

54:4, 54:6, 54:9,

54:12, 61:6, 63:6,

63:8, 63:9, 85:19,

86:17, 102:16

train [5] - 17:19,

63:20, 74:24, 84:8,

99:18

trajectory [1] - 36:15

transaction [1] - 54:11

transcriber [1] - 7:6

transcript [1] - 119:17

TRANSCRIPT [1] - 1:4

transfer [1] - 64:3

transferred [1] - 43:6

transit [3] - 63:19,

75:20, 84:3

Transit [1] - 63:24

transition [2] - 32:21,

89:25

trashing [1] - 13:11

travel [1] - 29:22

traveling [1] - 51:17

treated [1] - 62:17

trend [1] - 29:18

tried [2] - 88:2, 114:1

trips [1] - 54:13

true [6] - 26:16, 52:23,

75:15, 90:1, 91:8,

109:4

truly [1] - 53:16

try [7] - 15:19, 37:18,

80:25, 88:10, 88:11,

96:9

trying [5] - 41:17,

61:1, 66:15, 71:22,

85:15

turmoil [1] - 47:9

turn [3] - 63:11, 63:12,

71:24

turnover [1] - 39:9

twice [1] - 43:18

two [52] - 5:18, 11:9,

11:14, 12:15, 24:22,

30:1, 33:21, 42:22,

43:9, 43:13, 43:15,

43:20, 44:20, 48:7,

52:17, 53:11, 68:14,

77:19, 79:4, 81:3,

81:4, 81:6, 81:7,

81:10, 82:3, 82:7,

82:10, 82:15, 83:10,

83:11, 83:23, 84:2,

84:11, 84:16, 84:18,

85:12, 85:18, 88:17,

93:24, 97:6, 97:15,

97:22, 99:4, 99:24,

103:17, 104:7,

108:13, 109:3,

109:15, 113:4

two-thirds [1] - 113:4

two-year [1] - 53:11

type [2] - 19:16, 57:20

types [1] - 91:22

typical [1] - 53:14

typically [1] - 54:13

U

U.S [1] - 16:25

ultimately [1] - 107:5

UMIT [2] - 35:13,

35:15

Umit [2] - 3:13, 35:9

unable [1] - 29:13

unanticipated [2] -

67:7, 110:7

unattractive [1] -

33:24

unconscionable [1] -

57:1

undeniable [1] - 13:23

under [11] - 7:9, 24:1,

54:3, 54:7, 81:6,


136

81:10, 99:9, 100:5,

109:21, 115:1, 119:9

underpins [1] - 76:25

understandable [1] -

75:15

understated [1] -

62:19

understood [1] -

89:15

underutilized [2] -

95:9, 108:7

unfamiliar [1] - 31:17

unfortunately [2] -

20:5, 109:3

unintended [1] - 56:13

Union [4] - 27:14,

31:21, 41:6, 43:12

unit [1] - 54:22

units [42] - 14:23,

15:1, 23:17, 24:1,

24:3, 24:8, 25:6,

25:19, 27:5, 33:2,

35:24, 36:14, 37:7,

37:9, 37:11, 38:20,

40:9, 40:13, 40:19,

45:6, 45:17, 64:10,

64:12, 67:5, 71:13,

71:14, 71:21, 71:25,

77:7, 78:7, 82:16,

93:5, 93:6, 98:1,

98:14, 101:25,

108:20, 109:16,

112:13, 112:17,

113:11, 113:13

unless [1] - 89:20

unlike [1] - 17:24

unlikely [1] - 107:1

unmet [1] - 108:6

unoccupied [1] -

14:15

unprecedented [1] -

38:1

unrealistic [1] - 36:8

unusual [1] - 108:14

up [59] - 6:19, 6:24,

7:2, 7:21, 9:16, 11:1,

23:2, 24:13, 24:15,

28:14, 29:17, 38:6,

40:11, 40:15, 40:23,

41:24, 43:3, 43:15,

44:8, 46:3, 47:18,

48:9, 50:4, 51:8,

51:9, 51:20, 52:23,

53:12, 59:3, 63:8,

66:2, 67:9, 67:13,

74:16, 76:16, 79:3,

79:19, 79:25, 81:14,

82:3, 82:6, 82:9,

88:9, 88:25, 89:8,

89:16, 91:8, 97:11,


97:25, 99:4, 99:12,

104:25, 105:2,

106:3, 109:2, 112:4,

113:24, 115:3,

116:17

up-to-date [1] - 50:4

updates [1] - 50:12

upgrade [1] - 98:11

Upper [5] - 25:25,

26:2, 26:6, 26:19,

93:18

upscale [2] - 44:6,

88:16

upset [1] - 48:14

upsetting [1] - 85:15

Upstate [1] - 29:21

urge [5] - 29:8, 30:19,

54:16, 54:18, 68:6

USE [1] - 1:5

useful [1] - 115:16

uses [3] - 91:10, 93:9,

95:23

usual [1] - 52:18

utilize [1] - 32:18

utilized [1] - 95:10

V

vacant [1] - 80:11

vacation [1] - 42:20

VAGIANOS [11] -

78:19, 78:20, 78:22,

78:23, 81:24, 82:5,

82:11, 82:17, 83:19,

84:21, 84:23

Vagianos [4] - 4:8,

78:16, 78:18, 78:22

valid [1] - 96:25

Valley [7] - 21:15,

98:3, 98:5, 98:7,

98:10, 98:16, 116:15

valuable [1] - 24:6

value [2] - 92:16,

109:16

values [1] - 24:15

Van [1] - 28:14

van [6] - 3:22, 61:17,

61:18, 61:19, 61:21,

61:23

VAN [1] - 61:19

variance [1] - 62:3

variances [3] - 68:10,

109:13, 109:21

various [4] - 5:25,

6:11, 34:12, 90:2

vast [1] - 62:16

Vaughan [5] - 3:11,

30:25, 31:3, 31:7,

33:11

VAUGHAN [4] - 31:2,

31:3, 31:5, 31:7

verbatim [1] - 119:8

viability [1] - 76:25

vibrancy [1] - 74:18

vibrant [6] - 56:14,

70:24, 72:15, 72:19,

96:1, 111:21

Vice [1] - 69:8

VICE [1] - 1:11

Vice-Chairman [1] -

69:8

view [4] - 26:9, 44:5,

44:11, 65:19

viewed [2] - 33:21,

116:18

Village [2] - 8:12, 76:9

VILLAGE [2] - 1:1, 1:9

village [20] - 5:5,

13:18, 14:1, 14:10,

14:14, 15:4, 17:21,

20:2, 23:21, 25:24,

26:5, 35:2, 61:11,

66:17, 67:21, 68:5,

87:16, 102:13,

103:10, 109:18

village's [1] - 76:17

virtually [2] - 23:24,

109:10

visit [3] - 83:2, 83:12,

90:2

visitors [1] - 74:18

visits [1] - 83:3

visual [2] - 112:23,

113:1

vital [3] - 30:4, 30:6,

51:21

vitality [1] - 66:25

VOICE [3] - 117:7,

117:11, 117:16

volume [2] - 109:9,

109:19

volunteer [6] - 41:25,

44:18, 50:9, 51:25,

52:19, 77:25

volunteered [1] -

53:18

volunteers [2] - 34:12,

44:1

vote [5] - 29:8, 30:19,

51:23, 70:25, 71:5

W

Waiku [1] - 70:6

wait [1] - 84:8

waiting [1] - 53:11

walk [6] - 27:24, 28:2,

34:16, 34:17, 77:20,

84:8

walkable [1] - 88:3

walked [2] - 28:3,

116:24

walking [3] - 16:4,

29:19, 83:3

wall [1] - 21:22

Wall [3] - 16:10, 39:4,

43:5

wants [3] - 25:8, 59:6,

110:21

warning [1] - 26:4

washer [4] - 42:22,

43:21, 72:2, 88:16

Washington [2] -

52:9, 53:12

waste [1] - 79:24

Wastina [1] - 104:20

watched [1] - 43:24

watching [2] - 34:1,

49:25

water [1] - 66:20

WATSON [8] - 110:23,

111:1, 111:13,

111:15, 111:17,

113:25, 114:19,

114:23

Watson [8] - 4:17,

107:10, 110:20,

111:4, 111:13,

114:9, 114:12,

114:13

ways [2] - 60:6, 60:19

wealth [1] - 64:3

week [2] - 43:4, 88:12

weekend [1] - 44:13

WEINER [2] - 2:17,

117:19

Weiner [4] - 8:17,

28:19, 101:19,

117:18

Weiner's [1] - 103:25

welcome [3] - 12:20,

104:14, 104:17

well-educated [1] -

116:7

well-intentioned [1] -

30:14

Wellesley [1] - 30:2

WELLS [2] - 2:10,

2:10

WENDY [1] - 1:15

wheel [1] - 89:15

whole [5] - 61:12,

73:10, 77:9, 82:25,

86:16

Whole [1] - 54:5

wide [3] - 17:24, 17:25

widow [1] - 53:2

WIENER [4] - 27:13,

27:14, 27:16, 27:18

Wiener [3] - 3:9,

27:12, 27:13

wife [7] - 31:8, 31:24,

81:15, 82:1, 82:8,

97:6, 112:1

wife's [2] - 94:2, 94:3

win [1] - 5:15

wind [1] - 92:23

wisdom [1] - 26:21

wise [2] - 106:20

wish [2] - 6:18, 42:21

wishes [1] - 8:8

witnessed [1] - 56:24

witnesses [1] - 6:11

women [2] - 28:12,

28:13

wonderful [3] - 32:9,

32:17, 49:25

Woodbury [1] - 52:9

Woodcliff [1] - 2:8

words [3] - 26:17,

49:8, 101:16

works [2] - 55:2, 74:7

worried [1] - 47:25

worry [2] - 37:16, 68:3

worse [2] - 90:20,

91:12

wrap [2] - 44:8, 51:20

wrapper [1] - 22:12

written [2] - 7:22, 8:24

wrote [1] - 26:7

X

XIO1042 [1] - 119:5

Y

yard [1] - 57:1

year [13] - 11:18,

11:19, 13:6, 13:13,

14:19, 44:15, 53:11,

74:14, 93:25, 103:3,

105:12

yearn [1] - 16:11

years [55] - 18:15,

19:20, 21:21, 23:24,

24:22, 29:11, 31:8,

31:19, 32:19, 34:2,

41:11, 41:14, 41:18,

42:7, 42:17, 43:8,

43:9, 47:6, 49:17,

49:22, 49:23, 50:1,

50:10, 51:1, 52:15,

59:21, 61:5, 64:1,

64:11, 70:14, 71:18,

72:11, 74:13, 76:16,


137

78:7, 78:25, 79:18,

81:5, 81:6, 87:17,

88:24, 90:22, 92:10,

93:24, 95:3, 95:4,

95:6, 97:6, 98:5,

105:8, 110:6, 112:2

York [8] - 29:21, 30:3,

32:6, 63:3, 83:25,

87:18, 89:5, 97:4

young [4] - 34:21,

48:13, 54:16, 89:6

young'un [1] - 34:21

younger [3] - 32:3,

47:24, 48:1

youngest [1] - 93:24

youngsters [1] - 14:13

yourself [2] - 72:14,

88:12

Z

zero [2] - 35:25, 39:16

zone [3] - 24:6, 56:5,

109:6

ZONE [1] - 1:6

zoned [2] - 34:25,

95:23

zones [3] - 56:4, 56:6,

63:8

zoning [7] - 13:19,

23:12, 24:7, 54:3,

54:8, 54:21, 108:9

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