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Forum Lounge Chit-Chat Public Administration Strategy 1 Welcome t o the INDIAN OFFICER Community.  Yo u are current ly vi ew ing our boards as a guest w hich gives you li mited acce ss to view most discussions and access our ot her feat ures. By joini ng our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please,  join our community t oday! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us . User Tag List Publi c A dmini stration Strategy This is a discussion on Public Administration Strategy within theChit-Chat forums, part of the Lounge category; When did I start my preparation for Pub Ad? May 2010. Is coaching required for Pub Ad? Depends totally on you. I did not join any coaching as I felt that this subject could be studied on one's own. I came to this decision after reading Pub Ad for about ...  Twee Twee 0 ser Name  assword  Lo in Remember Me? Register Help Home Blogs News Feed Success Stories Downloads Study Groups Fo rum Hom e FAQ Cal en dar Communi ty Forum Acti ons Qui ck Li nk s Bookmarks  Advanc ed Search Resul ts 1 t o 20 of 48 Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Last 27 Likes Li ke Si gn Up to see what your f riends l ike. Send Thre ad Too l s Di sp l ay 05-21-2012 Publi c Admini stration Strategy When did I start my preparation for Pub Ad? May 2010. Is coaching required for Pub Ad? Dep ends tot ally on you. I did not join any c oaching as I fe lt that this subject could be studied on one's own. I came to this decision after reading Pub Ad for about 2 months bet ween May and June 2010. So it was totally a personal decision and may not be generaliz ed for everyone. My advice: Do your own analysis and decide if you need a coaching or not. Str ategy for Paper 1 Books ref erred: Admini strat ive Thinkers - Prasad & Prasad Public Administration - Polinaidu (quite a good book) Publ ic Adm ini strat ion - Mohit Bhattac har ya (mu st read) Public Administration - Maheshwari (didnt like this book) Nicholas Henry (for certain topics) Notes from Vajiram and Synergy Strategy: I finished paper 1 once by October 2010. Thereafter I focused revising and understanding it better. After UPSC Preliminary Examination , anot her friend and I used to have discussion sessions on each of the topics. This way we finished discussing the ent ir e paper. The discussions were very useful. It is a good way of testing whether one under stands the topic as well as getting new inputs on the topic. We also took previous years' question paper s and disc ussed how we wo uld app roach those questions. Du ring di sc ussions I real ized that there were certain topics that I had not studied in depth. So I took note of those topics and tried to understand them better. It was a constant process of improvisation. At no stage I felt that I am adequately prepared or in com mand of the entire paper. Answer writing: I had joined test series at Vajiram. So, my entire writing practice consisted only of wr iting their tests. Didn't do any any extra writing practice. A lot of people kept saying that one should draw a lot of diagram s in paper. I never thought that was absolutely necessary. In my CSE paper , I drew diagrams only in a couple of questions where I thought a diagram could convey my thoughts bett er than mer e words. For rest, I stuck to using logical and  #1 Points: Level: Lv. Percent: Weekly Activity: Join Date: Location: Posts: Mentioned: Tagged: Quoted: Feb 2012 Delhi 46 7 Post(s) 1 Thread(s) 20 Post(s) IO Activity - Stats 253 5 IO Activity - Bars 87.88% 2.75% neerajsingh This user has no status. I am: ---- Discussions

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When did I start my preparation for Pub Ad?

May 2010.

Is coaching required for Pub Ad?Depends totally on you. I did not join any coaching as I fe ltthat this subject could be studied on one's own. I came to thisdecision after reading Pub Ad for about 2 months between Mayand June 2010. So it was totally a personal decision and may

not be generalized for everyone. My advice: Do your ownanalysis and decide if you need a coaching or not.

Strategy for Paper 1

Books ref erred:

Administrative Thinkers - Prasad & PrasadPublic Administration - Polinaidu (quite a good book)Public Administration - Mohit Bhattacharya (must read)Public Administration - Maheshwari (didnt like this book)Nicholas Henry (for certain topics)Notes from Vajiram and Synergy

Strategy:

I finished paper 1 once by October 2010. Thereafter I focused

revising and understanding it better. After UPSC PreliminaryExamination, another friend and I used to have discussionsessions on each of the topics. This way we finished discussing

the entire paper. The discussions were very useful. It is a goodway of testing whether one understands the topic as well asgetting new inputs on the topic. We also took previous years'question papers and discussed how we would approach thosequestions.

During discussions I realized that there were certain topics thatI had not studied in depth. So I took note of those topics andtried to understand them better. It was a constant process of improvisation. At no stage I felt that I am adequately preparedor in command of the entire paper.

Answer writing:

I had joined test series at Vajiram. So, my entire writingpractice consisted only of writing their tests. Didn't do any any

extra writing practice.

A lot of people kept saying that one should draw a lot of diagrams in paper. I never thought that was absolutelynecessary. In my CSE paper, I drew diagrams only in a couple of questions where I thought a diagram could convey my thoughtsbetter than mere words. For rest, I stuck to using logical and

 

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coherent arguments through words.

Strategy for Paper 2

Books ref erred 

Frankly, there arnt good books available in the market for paper2. Arora and Goyal is decent but it is quite outdated. I referredthe following text for paper 2:Indian Administration - Arora and GoyalReports of the 2nd Administrative Reforms Commission

Some relevant IGNOU material

Notes of Vajiram and Synergy

Here, I must stress the fact that ARC reports form the

backbone of your paper 2 prep. Take that out and your paper 2prep will collapse. It is also useful for citing examples in paper 1answers.

Strategy:

I finished the syllabus from the traditionally recommended booksand internet sources by December 2010. Retrospectively, I cansay that I didnt really learn much in paper 2 during that time.Almost all my learning of paper 2 happened after UPSCPreliminary Examination when I started reading the ARC reports.Those reports are absolutely fantastic and are a high qualitypreparation source for Pub Ad students.

The rest of the strategy was similar to paper 1. After I finished

a report, I and my friend used to discuss that report in depth.Very helpful discussions.

 Answer wr iting:

Joined the Vajiram test series. The test series wasnt great but Ikept taking the tests because that was the only way I gotmyself to revise syllabus on time and get some answer writingpractice.

Wrote simple, to the point answers in the CSE paper.

My Pub Ad marks in CSE 2011:Paper 1 - 184Paper 2 - 167

Total - 351

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thanks for sharing your Strategy . its very sharp and so correct about the arc reports

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Hi Neeraj,

in 2011 a er - 1 and 2, could u ls sa where and how recisel was Mohit Bhattachar a useful?

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W hen d i d I s tar t m y  pr epar at i on f or P ub Ad ? M ay 2 0 10 .

I s c oac hi ng r eq u i red f or P u b Ad ? Depend s t ot al l y on y ou . I d i d not  j oi n any c oachi ng as I f el t t hat t hi s sub  j ec t c oul d be st u d i ed on one' s own. I c ame t o t hi s d eci si on af t er read i ng P u b Ad f or abou t 2 mont hs bet ween May and J u ne 2 0 10 . So i t was t ot al l y a  personal d ec i si on and may not be g eneral i zed f or ev er y one. M y ad v i ce: Do y ou r ow n anal y si s and d ec i d e i f y ou need a c oachi ng or not .

S tr at eg y f or P aper 1 

B ook s ref erred : 

 Ad mi ni st r at i v e Thi nkers - P r asad & P r asad P ubl i c  Ad mi ni st rat i on - Pol i nai d u ( q u i t e a good book  ) P ubl i c  Ad mi ni st rat i on - Mohi t B hat t ac hary a ( mu st read  ) 

P ubl i c  Ad mi ni st rat i on - Maheshw ar i ( d i d nt l ik e t hi s book  ) N i chol as H enr y ( f or c ert ai n t opi cs) 

N ot es f rom V a  j i ram and Sy ner g y 

St rat egy : 

I f i ni shed  paper 1 onc e by Oct ober 20 10 . Thereaf t er I f ocu sed r ev i si ng and u nd erst and i ng i t bet t er. Af t er U nion P ubl i c Serv i c e C ommi ssi on P r el i mi nary Ex ami nat i on, anot her f r i end and I u sed t o hav e d i sc u ssi on sessi ons on eac h of t he t opi c s. Thi s w ay w e f i ni shed d i sc u ssi ng t he ent i re paper. The d i sc u ssions wer e v er y u sef u l . I t i s a g ood way of t est i ng whet her one u nd erst and s t he t opi c as w el l as g et t i ng new i nput s on t he t opi c . W e al so t ook  prev i ous y ears' q uest i on paper s and d i sc u ssed how we wou l d approach t hose q u est ions.

Du r i ng d i scussi ons I real i z ed t hat t her e were cer t ai n t opi c s t hat I had not st u d i ed i n d ept h. So I t ook not e of t hose t opi c s and t r i ed t o u nd er st and t hem bet t er . I t was a c onst ant  process of i mpr ov i sat i on. At no st ag e I f el t t hat I am ad eq u at el y  pr epared or in command of t he ent i re paper .

 Answer wri t i ng : 

I had  j oi ned t est seri es at V a  j i ram. So, my ent i r e w ri t i ng  pr ac t i c e c onsi st ed onl y of wri t i ng t hei r t est s. Di d n' t d o any any ex t ra wr i t i ng  pract i ce.

 A l ot of  peopl e kept say i ng t hat one shou l d d raw a l ot of d i ag rams i n paper. I nev er t hou g ht t hat was absol u t el y 

nec essary . I n my C SE  paper  , I d rew d i ag rams onl y i n a c ou  pl e of q uest i ons w here I t hou g ht a d i ag r am c ou l d c onv ey my t hou g ht s bet t er t han mere word s. F or r est  , I st u ck t o u si ng l og i cal and coher ent ar g u ment s t hroug h w or d s.

S tr at eg y f or P aper 2 

B ook s ref erred 

F rank l y  , t her e ar nt g ood book s av ai l abl e i n t he market f or  paper 2 . Ar or a and G oy al i s d ecent but i t i s qu i t e out d at ed . I r ef erred t he f ol l owi ng t ex t f or paper 2 : I nd i an Ad mi ni st rat i on - Ar or a and G oy al Report s of t he 2 nd  Ad mi ni st r at i v e Ref or ms C ommi ssi on Some rel ev ant I G N OU mat eri al 

N ot es of V a  j i r am and Sy ner g y 

H er e, I mu st st r ess t he f ac t t hat  ARC report s f orm t he backbone of y ou r  paper 2 prep. Tak e t hat ou t and y ou r  paper 2  prep wi l l c ol l apse. I t i s al so usef u l f or c i t i ng ex ampl es i n paper 1 answ er s.

St rat egy : 

I f i ni shed t he sy l l abu s f rom t he t rad i t i onal l y r ecommend ed book s and i nt ernet sou r c es by December 2 0 10.

Ret rospec t i v el y  , I c an say t hat I d i d nt r eal l y l ear n mu c h i n paper 2 d u ring t hat t i me. Al most al l my l earni ng of  paper 2 happened af t er U ni on P u bl i c Ser v i ce C ommi ssi on Prel i mi nary Ex ami nat i on when I st art ed r ead i ng t he 

 ARC r eport s. Those repor t s are absolu t el y f ant ast i c and ar e a hi gh q u al i t y  pr eparat i on source f or P u b Ad st u d ent s.

The rest of t he st rat eg y was si mi l ar t o paper 1. Af t er I f i ni shed a report  , I and my f ri end used t o d i sc u ss t hat r eport i n d ept h. V er y hel  pf u l d i sc u ssi ons.

 Answer wri t i ng : 

J oi ned t he V a  j i r am t est seri es. The t est seri es w asnt g r eat bu t I k ept t ak i ng t he t est s becau se t hat was t he onl y w ay I got my sel f t o r ev i se sy l l abus on t i me and g et some answer w ri t i ng  prac t i c e.

W rot e si mpl e, t o t he poi nt answers i n t he C SE paper .

M y Pu b Ad m arks i n CS E 2 0 11: P aper 1 - 18 4 

P aper 2 - 167 Tot al - 3 5 1 

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Hi,

It is difficult to point out where exactly Mohit Bhattacharya helped in writing the answers. All I know is thatmy understanding of paper 1 improved considerably after reading that book. The book is very well structuredand has a flow in its arguments, which unfortunately many other books available in the market on the

sub ect lack.

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i n 2 0 11 paper - 1 and 2  , cou l d u pl s say wher e and how preci sel y was M ohi t Bhat t achar y a u sef u l ? 

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First hearty congrats for getting such a good rank.

Apologize for posting such a lengthy post. But, pls gimme answers yaar.

1) So from what u said above i can make out that it helps in gaining conceptual clarity. There is nothing inthe text book that one has to quote verbatim to impress the examiner. right? sorry for being this explicit butPubAd has always been a showstopper for me.

2) down's & niskanen model - source?

3) Neither Edward Weiner nor Fred Riggs were able to discuss the process of development - will Mohit help intackling such conceptual questions? Mohit i think has 2 popular books. which one shud we read?

4) importance of quoting from current affairs in paper 1 ? Ex: as in civil servants must be social moralists --

good governance. and other questions. I think there is hardly any text book material here to write except forprinciples of GG. right? we hv to take help of live examples to show how GG is being achieved thru ethical & social change oriented pubad. i think i even brought NPA here which urged for normative pubad. dont know if this is right?

5) For completely theoretical questions, is it necessary or is there a scope to quote from current affairs orARC - 2 reports.Ex: Dror Model. For this question.. my approach was explain the shortcomings of incrementalist model andshow how Dror rectified them and explain this model as per Mohit or some other text book. Right or am Imissing something? What current affairs can we quote for this question.

6) in paper 2, CAG is a prosecutor with a law -- I quoted amendment of 1971 Audit Act in this answer andwhy CAG wants to get it amended. I thought the law that governs it functioning in detail is covered by thisact. Is this right? or is it enuf to just write about CAG's shortcomings as given in financial admin report of 

ARC - 2 - copy, paste?

7) Community policing -- was this picked up from ARC - 2 public order report? I have not read this part of the report. but explained what is community policing in my own words and said that voice of the marginalized

is not being heard by the police because of elite lobby .. blah blah... Obviously, it didnt impress theexaminer!!

8) Punchi commision & potential maturity - i read only its recommendations. gave the recommendations. Isthis right? I didnt read why punchi felt that we hv reached a stage of potential maturity. but gave some

examples like convergence of demands with regard to GST implementation, or union state cooperation incombating LWE (IAP). is this right?

My pathetic score - 121 + 87 less than what i got in first attempt 127 + 128. In my first attempt, for any

question, I just copy pasted the relevant text book material. no current affairs. not much analysis. nothing. i just wrote why & what is the concept as intro, advs or +ves and -ves. conclude.

Thats why I'm little frustrated abt PubAd at this point of time. Some questions just doesnt seem to have adefined scope or framework. Looks like one needs to be a mind reader to know what exactly the examinerneeds from us.

Bottomline : I will be very happy if u can tell me how to impress the examiner. and what shud be the contentfor a question. This will help me in writing & reading only that much which gives me 55% of marks alloted tothe question.

Dont know if this is true but general feel is that PubAd examiners have been very stingy this time.

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H i  ,

I t i s d i f f i cul t t o poi nt ou t wher e ex ac t l y M ohi t Bhat t achar y a hel  ped i n wri t i ng t he answers. Al l I know i s t hat my 

u nd er st and i ng of  paper 1 i mpr ov ed c onsi d erabl y af t er read i ng t hat book . The book i s v ery wel l st ru ct u red and has a f l ow i n i t s ar g u ment s, whi ch unf ort unat el y many ot her book s av ai l abl e i n t he market on t he sub  j ec t l ac k .

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That indeed is a long post. These questions require some thought and a re-look at my notes, books etcwhich I havnt even touched after mains. Hence I will answer those questions in parts.

1) Yes, I think its mainly about conceptual clarity. I dont know if it is expected but I never quoted anythingverbatim from any source. I only explained what their argument is.

2) That question was a bouncer to me. Hadnt read it anywhere. Safely ducked.

3) I didnt attempt this question. But if I were to, I would have pointed out the drawbacks in their models asI see it. A lot of people, including teachers during test series at Vajiram, kept saying that it is important toquote which thinker criticized which thinker on what ground. I usually didnt do that, for the simple reason

that I couldnt exactly remember which thinker criticised which thinker for what reason. Hence, at placeswhere such references were required I provided names of a couple of thinkers and moved on to the generalcriticism of the proposals of the thinker as I saw it. I never believed in the rat race of quoting as manythinkers as possible simply because I know there will be lots of people doing that and they will do a muchbetter job than me because they probably had studied Pub Ad for more time than I did. So I tried to appealto reason and logic rather than quoting names.

I cant recall exactly what I read about these two thinkers in Mohit Bhattacharya but Polinaidu certainly didhave a good section on these two thinkers and their critique.

About Bhattacharya's book: I referred 'New Horizons in Pub Ad'

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1) So f r om what u sai d abov e i c an make ou t t hat i t hel  ps i n g ai ni ng c oncept u al cl ar i t y . There i s not hi ng i n t he t ex t book t hat one has t o q u ot e v erbat i m t o i mpr ess t he ex ami ner . ri g ht ? sor r y f or bei ng t hi s ex  pl i c i t bu t P u bAd has al w ay s been a show st opper f or me.

2  ) d own' s & ni sk anen mod el - sou rce? 

3  ) N ei t her E d ward W ei ner nor F red Ri ggs were abl e t o d i sc u ss t he proc ess of d ev el opment - wi l l Mohi t hel  p i n t ack l i ng suc h c oncept ual q uest i ons? Mohi t i t hi nk has 2 popu l ar books. whi c h one shu d w e read ? 

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Reading through your discussion with @neerajsingh, I am seriously getting this inferiority complex as Irealise that I know absolutely nothing of what you all are talking about? I almost choked on my cof f eereading through that essay you had to write(post #5).

What does it take to talk in such language, pray tell?

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F i r st hear t y cong r at s f or g et t i ng su c h a g ood rank .

 Apol og i ze f or post i ng su c h a l eng t hy  post . B u t  , pl s g i mme answers y aar .

1) So f r om what u sai d abov e i c an make ou t t hat i t hel  ps i n g ai ni ng c oncept u al cl ar i t y . There i s not hi ng i n t he t ex t book t hat one has t o q u ot e v erbat i m t o i mpr ess t he ex ami ner . ri g ht ? sor r y f or bei ng t hi s ex  pl i c i t bu t P u bAd has al w ay s been a show st opper f or me.

2  ) d own' s & ni sk anen mod el - sou rce? 

3  ) N ei t her E d ward W ei ner nor F red Ri ggs were abl e t o d i sc u ss t he proc ess of d ev el opment - wi l l Mohi t hel  p i n t ack l i ng suc h c oncept ual q uest i ons? Mohi t i t hi nk has 2 popu l ar books. whi c h one shu d w e read ? 

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Ha ha ... i didnt uite understand ur uestion but i think the answer is frustration

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I am:Originally Posted by mango_dolly 

Read i ng t hr ou gh y ou r d i scussi on wi t h @ neer a  j si ng h   , I am ser i ousl y g et t i ng t hi s i nf eri or i t y c ompl ex as I r eal i se t hat I k now absol ut el y not hi ng of what y ou al l are t al k i ng about ? I al most c hok ed on my cof f ee r ead i ng t hroug h 

t hat essay y ou had t o wr i t e(  post # 5  ) .

W hat d oes i t t ake t o t al k i n su c h l ang uag e, pray t el l ? 

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I would like to know how u summarised all those books and notes in one place?? for revisiing at the t ime of exam???

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Hi Neeraj,

Will coaching help in concetual clarity for PubAd orself study is enough...

An coachin class for PubAd in Delhi

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Hi,I am also in same boat as you. I really dont know by looking at my score; what is that examiner looks at?

I have got pathetic 97 and 130 in Pub Ad papers. I wrote to the point, did not use much of diagrams.

From my end, I am thinking taking help of Pub. Ad. teacher for getting answers evaluated.

Regards,Gan adhar

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Hi Neeraj sir,Can you please guide how to approach the ARC reports? I mean 'what/what not' to from them...Thanks

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Please also le me know what needs to be studied in 2nd ARC as its too big............

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What was ur score in the last attem t. Have u been to an coachin for PubAd?

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I am:Originally Posted by gangavh 

H i  ,

I am al so in same boat as y ou . I r eal l y d ont know by l ooki ng at my score; what i s t hat ex ami ner l ook s at ? 

I hav e g ot  pat het i c 9 7 and 130 i n P u b Ad  papers. I w r ot e t o t he poi nt  , d i d not u se much of d i ag r ams.

F rom my end  , I am t hi nk i ng t aki ng hel  p of P u b. Ad . t eac her f or g et t i ng answers ev al uat ed .

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@neerajsingh First of all, congrats on your ranking sir!Am very layman to this mains studies, I am going to begin only now. From what you have said, I plan to getbooks exce t Maheshwari. Which book should I start first to et a c larit on what PubAd is all about?

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Hi,

You could start with Polinaidu. I came across this book only late during my preparation but found it to be

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@ neera  j s i ng h  Fi r st of al l  , c ongrat s on y our ranki ng si r ! 

 Am v ery l ay man t o t hi s mai ns st ud i es, I am goi ng t o beg i n onl y now. From what y ou hav e sai d  , I  pl an t o g et book s ex c ept Maheshwari . W hi ch book shoul d I st ar t f i rst t o g et a cl arit y on what P u bAd i s al l abou t ? 

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Chapters in paper 2 and the corresponding ARC reports to be read.Chap 4 - Report 13Chap 6 & 7 - Report 15Chap 8 - Report 10Chap 9 - Report 14Chap 10 - no specific ARC. But once you have read the other reports you will be able to answer questionsfrom this chapter.

Chap 11 & 12 - Report 6chap 13 - report 5

Chap 14 - Report 3 & 4

I read the whole re orts that I have mentioned above. Ver hi h ualit material.

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H i N eera  j si r  ,C an y ou  please g ui d e how t o approac h t he ARC repor t s? I mean ' what  / what not ' t o f r om t hem...Thanks 

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I took a decision not to join coaching after I studied Pub Ad for about 2 months and realized that it can bestudied without any coaching. I cannot suggest if coaching is needed or not. If you are taking CSE in 2013 Iwould suggest spend sometime with first few chapters of paper 1 and thereafter take a decision if you needa coachin or not.

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H i N eera  j  ,W i l l coac hi ng hel  p i n conc et u al c l ari t y f or P u bAd or sel f st u d y i s enoug h... Any coac hi ng c l ass f or PubAd i n Del hi 

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I used to note down important points while reading the books and during discussions. No big st rategy fortakin notes.

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I wou l d l i ke t o k now how u su mmar i sed al l t hose books and not es i n one pl ac e? ? f or rev i si i ng at t he t i me of 

ex am? ?? 

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F i r st hear t y cong r at s f or g et t i ng su c h a g ood rank .

 Apol og i ze f or post i ng su c h a l eng t hy  post . B u t  , pl s g i mme 

answers y aar.

1) So f r om what u sai d abov e i c an make ou t t hat i t hel  ps i n g ai ni ng c onc ept u al cl ari t y . There i s not hing i n t he t ex t book t hat one has t o q uot e v erbat i m t o i mpr ess t he ex ami ner.r i g ht ? sor ry f or bei ng t hi s ex  pl i c i t bu t P u bAd has al way s been a showst opper f or me.

2  ) d own' s & ni sk anen mod el - sou rce? 

3  ) N ei t her E d ward W ei ner nor F red Ri ggs were abl e t o d i sc u ss t he process of d ev el opment - w i l l M ohi t hel  p i n t ack l i ng suc h c oncept ual q uest i ons? Mohi t i t hi nk has 2  popu l ar book s. whi c h one shu d w e read ? 

4) i mpor t anc e of q u ot i ng f rom c u rrent af f ai rs i n paper 1 ? 

E x : as i n ci v i l ser v ant s mu st be soc i al moral i st s -- good g ov er nance. and ot her q u est i ons. I t hi nk t here i s har d l y any 

t ex t book mat er i al here t o wri t e ex c ept f or pri nc i  pl es of G G .r i g ht ? we hv t o t ak e hel  p of l i v e ex ampl es t o show how G G i s 

bei ng achi ev ed t hru et hi c al & soci al chang e ori ent ed  pubad .i t hi nk i ev en brou g ht N PA her e w hi ch urg ed f or nor mat i v e  pubad . d ont k now i f t hi s i s r i g ht ? 

5  ) F or c ompl et el y t heor et i c al q u est i ons, i s i t nec essar y or i s t here a sc ope t o quot e f r om c u rr ent af f ai rs or  ARC - 2 r eport s.E x : Dror M od el . F or t hi s q u est i on.. my approac h w as ex  pl ai n t he short c omi ng s of i ncrement al i st mod el and show how Dror rect i f i ed t hem and ex  pl ai n t hi s mod el as per M ohi t or some ot her t ex t book. Ri g ht or am I mi ssi ng somet hi ng ? W hat c urrent af f ai rs c an we q u ot e f or t hi s q uest i on.

6) i n paper 2  , C  AG i s a pr osecut or w i t h a l aw -- I q u ot ed amend ment of 19 7 1 Au d i t  Act i n t hi s answer and why C  AG 

w ant s t o get i t amend ed . I t hou g ht t he l aw t hat gov er ns i t f u nct i oni ng i n d et ai l i s c ov er ed by t hi s act . I s t hi s ri g ht ? or i s i t enu f t o j u st wr i t e abou t C  AG ' s short c omi ng s as g i v en i n f i nanc i al ad mi n r eport of  ARC - 2 - copy  , past e? 

7  ) C ommuni t y  pol i ci ng -- was t hi s pi cked u  p f rom ARC - 2 

 publ i c or d er report ? I hav e not read t hi s part of t he r eport .but ex  pl ai ned what i s c ommuni t y  pol i ci ng i n my own w or d s 

and sai d t hat v oi c e of t he mar i nal i zed i s not bei n heard b 

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@neerajsingh - waiting for your responses to Q 4 - 8. I'm notlooking for detailed answers. but just the approach and anyexamples u gave. wanted to know where i went wrong. that isall!.

t he pol i ce bec ause of el i t e l obby .. bl ah bl ah... Obv i ou sl y  , i t d i d nt i mpress t he ex ami ner! ! 

8  ) P unchi commi si on & pot ent i al mat u ri t y - i r ead onl y i t s r ecommend at i ons. g av e t he r ec ommend at i ons. I s t hi s ri g ht ? I d i d nt read why  punc hi f el t t hat we hv reac hed a st ag e of  pot ent i al mat uri t y . but g av e some ex ampl es l i k e c onv er g ence of d emand s w i t h r eg ard t o G ST i mpl ement at i on, or u ni on st at e c ooperat i on i n combat i ng LW E ( I  AP). i s t hi s r i g ht ? 

M y  pat het i c score - 12 1 + 8 7 l ess t han what i got i n f i rst at t empt 12 7 + 128 . I n my f i rst at t empt  , f or any q uest i on  , I 

 j u st copy  past ed t he r el ev ant t ex t book mat eri al . no cu rrent af f ai rs. not mu c h anal y si s. not hi ng. i  j u st wrot e w hy & w hat 

i s t he conc ept as i nt ro, ad v s or + v es and -v es. c onc l ud e.

That s why I ' m l i t t l e f ru st rat ed abt Pu bAd at t hi s poi nt of t i me. Some qu est i ons j ust d oesnt seem t o hav e a d ef i ned scope or f ramework. Looks l i k e one need s t o be a mi nd r ead er t o know w hat ex act l y t he ex ami ner need s f rom us.

B ot t omli ne : I wi l l be v er y happy i f u c an t ell me how t o i mpr ess t he ex ami ner . and what shu d be t he c ont ent f or a 

q uest i on. Thi s wi l l hel  p me i n w r i t i ng & r ead i ng onl y t hat much whi c h g i v es me 5 5 % of marks al l ot ed t o t he q uest i on.

Dont know i f t hi s i s t rue bu t g eneral f eel i s t hat P ubAd ex ami ners hav e been v ery st i ng y t hi s t i me.

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