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Dr Bill Deagle - Prognosis for Planet Earth - Part 3Vista, California, September 2008

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Bill Deagle (BD): The key idea is this: You need to have a doing inthe spirit before you have a knowing. In other words, you need tocontact the Higher Self to say why... I m a human-being not a

human-doing.In other words, you need to be where you re supposed to be. You needto be in the position where you re supposed to be, and then the thingsjust unfold.Bill Ryan (BR): Yes.BD: And this is why all these things have happened to me. And peoplesay it s impossible that all these things could happen to one person.I say: Well, it happens because I hear and do. Literally.As you know, the sister of Moses went before the council of the people


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back in the ancient times and said, you know: Are we an ear, and notonly prophets?And the voice of god spoke through the pillar of fire and said: Thereis not a man on Earth, hand to hand, eye to eye, mouth to mouth, whodoes not speak as another man speaks to his brother.That s the kind of relationship I have with God. I literally can talkand hear him instantly, [snaps fingers] like that.Kerry Cassidy (KC): Mm hm.BD: But people need to know I m not any better than anyone else, butI am... If you knew my whole history, you d say: Why is this mancalled to do this?I m called to do this because I ve seen the face of evil. I ve seen itnot only in myself, I ve seen it in others. I have chosen light, notto be a follower of darkness.I ve had numerous opportunities. I ve had an opportunity to become aBreve Brother, a Knight of Malta, as early as this year, earlier thisyear. I ve had all kinds of threats. I ve had the Pindar come directlyto me to say, you know, to be his replacement as the CEO of Earth,Inc. and the Druidic Council.And there s a lot of high-level Masons say: Well, I haven t even heardof that. Because they think they re the ascended ones. They have noidea what they re serving.BR: Hm.BD: They have no idea. They need to repent right now. And, as I say,

if we can pray -- and this is something we have to do. And the mostpowerful thing we have is, I call it fore-give. The word foregivemeans to create.To foregive means we need to pray for George Soros, who is behind theBlackstone Group and 9/11, and the current derivatives crises that sbringing the world down to a world and regional banks, and trade zones

that are going to cause the death of millions and set the groundworkafoot for a pandemic.Because when starvation occurs, the population gets weakened, and it sthe perfect groundwork, or cover, for a pandemic which they ve alreadyweaponized.BR: Has that already been released? Or not released?

BD: There are several avenues by which it can happen. Back in... Howlong ago is it now? Gee... back in about 1995 I was praying and I wastold by the angel that I was supposed to go to Europe. And I said:Well, where? And the Lord said: You re going to go to Zurich.And I said: Well, I don t know anybody in Zurich. So I had somefriends that were Canadians, that actually were in Halifax, NovaScotia, at the time and they had gone back to Austria, to LakeConstance.And I said: Well, I ll contact them... the Santoses. I said, you know:You guys know Zurich? [They said]: Oh, yeah. We lived there are awhile

and we love it.So I started going through and googling, you know, checking out

things, trying to find out which organization. The Lord said: You resupposed to contact these people here at Human Life International. SoI speak to God, literally, and he tells me.So I contact them. I call this guy and he calls me back from Zurich.And in a very German accent he says: Wonderful! We d love to have youcome over and speak to our board.So we arranged tickets. We go and visit our friends in Austria, and we

go over to Zurich. And I told them what I was told, you know --literally told -- to tell them about was the cybernetic super-soldier


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program, human genetic engineering, and the chimeric monstrositiesthey re making in underground facilities. And to speak againstabortion and euthanasia, and selective abortions which are... 93% ofthe abortions on Earth are female.BR: Hm.BD: OK? And so, after two and a half hours of me speaking to a boardof scientists -- giant boardroom, you know, 24 doctors and scientists,

whatever, the International Board of HLI -- they said: Now you sitdown, doctor. We give you things.And they went into another room and brought this stack, about a footof documents. I said: Well, what is this? They said: You stay here.And they gave me some more water and whatever, and they lectured to me

for two hours.And they had documents there of the weaponization of the avian flu,smuggled out of the World Health Organization in Basel. Actualdocuments. OK? That they had got gene bioengines, and they hadactually resurrected the corpses of people that died of the H1N1 backin 1918, that they were paid for by the Rothschilds... All this stuff!

I m totally in shock! I mean, these guys are telling me this stuff.I m thinking: Why am I in Zurich?

And after they finished that, which was about 6 inches, then they gaveme documents, that they had these plasmid vaccines that were injectedevery month. And they were drawing blood from women in sub-SaharanAfrica, testing to see if they create antibodies against humanchorionic gonadotropin to sterilize them.And I had another 4 inches of documents that showed that AIDS wascompletely weaponized by cross-genetically engineering the Visna virus

with other viruses. They gave me the actual documents!So I m sitting there kind of freaked out, you know, wondering... Andof course we went to dinner afterward with these doctors. And theysaid: Now you bring all this I brought it all back with me, of

course -- to North America.But the thing is, back in... You see how God puts me in all thesepositions. Back in 1974 I had finished a year of medical school andsomeone tried to recruit me from a U.S. government agency to take ayear off medical school and go to Uganda for a special virus project.Because I had worked...Before I went into medicine, I was working on my honors degree and Ifinished my Ph.D. research project in 5 months, although I didn twrite the thesis, for Dr. Robert Brown, who was one of the doctorsworking on the T-virus project in Bethesda. So I was already abio-weaponeer. OK?KC: Mm hm.BR: And you turned that down?

BD: I turned it down. I told them there was no way I was going to doit. But I had recalled this from 74 to 1997 when they gave me allthose documents, and here it was...I was also the whistle-blower that blew the whistle that the Factor-8that was used for hemophiliacs... I was the main whistle-blower forthe Canadian government and those lawsuits that got all those doctors,

that they were getting it and combining all these Factor-8s...Because I had a pile of hemophiliacs when I was practicing in Calgarythat were dying of AIDS, specifically because they gave them


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purposely-contaminated Factor-8.BR: Yes.BD: OK? And all these things, all my experiences from my life, werelaid out so that I would be what I am now, a beaten piece of steellike a Samurai sword...KC: Hm.BD: ...hardened enough for the truth and willing to tell the peoplethe truth, to tell people that you need to make the right decisions.You cannot believe your pastor, your rabbi, your Buddhist master, your

ascended masters, your ET contactees. You need to contact your Self,the spirit of the Most High God.You need to analyze what s going on in foreign policy and money. Forexample, money, as Socrates says, only means exchange. Why are wewilling to do spending cuts that will starve people? Why are we goingto bail out 700 billion dollars to banksters that are gambling on thefuture, that re going to guarantee that we re going to have a crashand the death of civilization?BR: Hm.BD: Why? And they know that starvation leads to war, pestilence, andthe crash of civilization. And it s very fragile. And they repurposely bringing this about.This is the start... This phase right now, with the collapse of thebanks, this is the start toward world government, world bank, regional

currencies, chipping the population. And they re ready, probably bynext year.I ve already calculated, and have been told by my sources, bothnatural and classified, as well as supernatural, there s about a 30%chance of an avian pandemic this year, and a 70% chance next year, and

100% chance the year after.BR: When you say this year, you mean in the next 12 months?BD: No, between now and the end of December [2008].BR: Really? OK.BD: That s very disturbing. OK? But we re talking about going up to70%, which means next year we have a very grave possibility of a

thermonuclear attack at least on the Bashear reactor and 450 targets.And a counter-response which is going to release a radiation cloud and

cut off the world to the Strait of Hormuz.And I was taken in 1988 -- one of my very first visions -- I was taken

up high above Saudi Arabia, in the spirit, and I actually looked down.

And I looked and I could see the carrier groups all assembling.And this was 1988, twenty years ago. And I looked down, and the angeltold me, he says: Watch this place. Because this is where it will allstart -- the Strait of Hormuz.BR: And how close are we to that now?

BD: We are so close we can feel the breath of the dragon. People need

to pull back... And none of these people that call themselvescandidates for president that are in the two leading parties are safe.

Neither one.Obama is backed by Zbigniew Brzezinski, that wrote The GrandChessboard, that was the head of the Security Council, that was one of

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to directly confront, with thermonuclear and other weapons, Russia.OK?

BR: Yes. Yep.BD: We have Joe Biden, who released this information just in the last

two weeks. This guy is very clever but very evil. And he s directlyinvolved with the cover-up of the Israeli Purdue OxyContin scam, where

there s a Purdue Pharma plant in Israel distributing billions ofdollars of illegal OxyContin in America. And we have the proof of it.OK? This is not conjecture.BR: Yep.BD: Then we ve got McCain, who spent five and a half years under thecontrol of a Russian mind-control scientist, the top Russianmind-control scientist. And I heard him on the debate. And actually Ithink he won the debate against Obama, because Obama, if he s notreading a teleprompter, is not that smart.McCain was sharper and he showed more presidential... But McCain isdetermined that he s going to invade -- as well as Obama -- he s goingto invade Pakistan and get to the Waziristani nukes. He s going toexpand NATO directly on the back doorstep of the Russians. It s goingto piss off the Russians. And the Russians have got some very, verynasty weapons.BR: Yes, and they re pissed off already.

BD: They re very pissed off, and they personally don t want to dothis. They d much rather negotiate and get richer. Right?BR: Sure.BD: The Russians are not interested in this. But the people behindthe American government, the Satanic Luciferian Reptilians, they reabsolutely determined to bring this agenda toward a final culmination,

a thermonuclear war. OK? They re determined to do it.KC: That s with Russia.BD: And they re pulling Russia... As it says in Ezekiel 38 and 39: Ishall pull you with hooks in your jaw. Oh Rosh, chief prince Gog ofMeshech, Tubal and Rosh.And you know what that is? Gog is the name of a Hebrew man. Rosh:

Russia. Meshech: Moscow. Tubal: Tublosk. This is Russia. They ve armedto the teeth all these nations.They ve got the S-300 anti-aircraft system; they ve got the Yakontzhypersonic cruise missile; they ve got EMP weapons; and they ve armedto the teeth Syria and Iran; and they are building the largestoutside-of-Russia naval base right now in Syria.BR: Yes. And they re poking the Bear with a sharp stick.BD: They re poking the Bear with a sharp stick. So, what we ve got todo is, people need to get in a panic here. It s not a matter of votingfor Palin and McCain, or voting for Obama. Either alternativeguarantees a thermonuclear war.BR: Yeah. Is this election going to happen to schedule, or couldsomething happen to it?

BD: It really doesn t matter. It doesn t matter. Even if it s delayed6 months, you know, it doesn t matter if McCain gets in there andPalin.The thing that I m particularly concerned about is... Someone likeMcCain, if he lives long enough, which I m very concerned about,because he s had a third recurrence of a melanoma. He s had alymphatic spread. And I know a lot of... I do consulting, helpingpeople integrate with treatments for cancer all around the world.Unless he s getting some of the new classified anti-cancer therapieswith some of the people that I know in Europe or elsewhere -- like Dr.


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Tulio Simoncini and Dr. Munoz in Tijuana, and other places, where youget IPT and so on -- he s a dead man.This cancer or another cancer is going to come back and kill him, andhe ll probably die in his term. And we re not talking about a 30%chance. We re probably talking 80% chance in the first two years ofhis term, if he does become president, that President Palin will takeover.BR: With what consequences?BD: Well, President Palin doesn t, I don t think, have the... To meshe s pro-life which is positive for a lot of Christian rights. [Ed.Note: the political right] She s going to drag a lot of votes thatway. But in terms of her ability to have a rational judgment, with the

extreme religious background that she has, is going to be verydisturbing.Now, I m for the pro-life issue and I m for the fact she s gotspirituality. But when you have religion and it s clouded that Israelcan do no wrong? That s frickin dangerous.BR: Yes. She says that Iraq is God s war.BD: Right. And that s really dangerous. And you can t say Israel cando no wrong when the whole nation of Israel is Sabbatian LuciferianSatanist Jews. OK? Who do not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac andJacob, and have nothing to do with she thinks...

And they laugh at her and think that this Christian fool is going toback us no matter what, and allow us to attack Iran.BR: Yeah. And she s playing straight into their hands.BD: Right. She s playing right into their hands. And, of course,they re using her as a card to manipulate. And on the other hand,we ve got Obama and there s a trail of strange things going on behindhim.KC: And you know this because...BD: I ve got so many contacts you would not believe it. I can t...I ve spent a lot of time on the... Obama is a, if you want to call it,messianic figure.KC: Mm hm.BD: This is a very dangerous man. In fact, of all of the options we

have, Obama is the most dangerous of all of them.BR: OK. So that s the most-worst version.BD: He s the most-worst version. Even Biden would be better. Bidenmight actually have a clue, even though he s a bit of a criminal.BR: Yeah.KC: But our understanding is that Biden probably won t make it tothe...BR: Is it possible that Hillary could be back on the ticket?BD: It s possible. It s possible.BR: Have you heard that?BD: The thing is that Hillary, other than Obama, is the most scaryindividual I ve ever met. She is very brilliant, incredibly evil, andher family, the Rodhams, have been Luciferian Satanists for hundreds,

if not thousands, of years. She has a lot of stuff attached to her.BR: So what s the way out of all that crap?BD: The way out of it is to just get the population woke up, to prayfor the leaders, to get the people woke up. If we just get a tinyminority of the body of mankind to wake up to the truth of this...Whether they think they re atheists or agnostics or Jews orChristians, they ve got to stop being Armageddonites. They ve got tostop being Sabbatian Jews. They ve got to stop being religious,thinking: Oh well, it s just karma being worked out, in theirBuddhism. Right?


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They ve got to stop all that foolishness and pick up their septre andsay: We craft the future. We re going to determine whether or notmankind is going to survive what s coming. And they ve got to startmaking decisions.They ve got to start saying: Hey, we re not going to participate witha country that s going to have a thermonuclear war with Iran. We renot going to...You know, as Carlin said: If you vote for one of these blankey-blankguys or this blankey-blank guy, you can t complain when either one ofthem starts a thermonuclear war.KC: OK. But actually people are left with that choice.BD: They aren t. They can actually... The thing is that I think weneed to transcend politics. We need to transcend religion.We need to stop thinking that if we make the right decision on theright leader we ve solved the problem. The transformation is not atthe leadership level of the White House.KC: Absolutely.BD: It s not even at the capitol building of the state. It s not evenat the town council. It s in us. We have to decide that we re nolonger going to participate in these things. We re not going toparticipate in churches or pastors or politicians doing these things.We re not going to participate in a financial collapse that s going tostarve millions, and start a pandemic. We re not going to participatein doing those things that...

KC: OK. Well, but nuts and bolts and on a spiritual level, theirchoice is clear, I would say.BD: Yeah. But they have to make hard decisions. See, those decisionsare so hard that most people don t want to swallow that. So they wantto either attack me or any other messenger giving this message.KC: Sure.BD: They don t want to make the tough choices to say: Hey, I m notgoing to participate with what they re planning on doing. I m going tomake certain that I m not going to vote.I ll give you an example. What happens if nobody went out to vote?What if everybody said: Hey, we know both these guys, either party, is

going to support the 700-billion dollar bailout.

Because, you know, in the next two weeks, long before the election,they re going to sign this damn thing. And if they sign it, theyguarantee the -- you could call it the controlled demolition of theeconomy of the world, and the de-evolution to the mark of the beast,which is coming. You know?I ve walked personally through the array, and either party is going toguarantee that. Now, whether it s Obama and his messianic vision, orit s McCain and Sarah Palin with her Armageddonite vision, it doesn tmatter. The devil will move forward like a snake pushing itself on its

own belly.KC: OK. We ve also gotten information about October [2008]. And I msure you ve heard Half Past Human.

BD: Yes, I can tell you what... Yeah.BR: We have thirteen different, actually fourteen now, differentdata-points, lined up in October...BD: Yeah. Well, you re correct. Somewhere between the 7th and 15th ofOctober. And I get the same feeling.BR: Right.BD: A lot of the time I don t know... Like I ll go to bed at night,wake up in cold sweats, get visions...KC: Yes.BD: ...see, you know, people crying. I see starvation. I see


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privation. I see darkness, a lot of very bad visions, very jumbled up,

and I can t tell you what it is specifically. But I can tell you whatmakes sense to me if I just take my intellectual viewpoint.BR: Yes.BD: I think we re going to have a financial crash.BR: OK.BD: I think the financial crash is going to be so severe and sopainful that the grocery store shelves are going to be completelyempty in the very, very near future. I mean, it could only last formaybe a few weeks, but it s going to frighten people so badly, that nomatter what the government presents to them -- in terms of worldgovernment, regional currency, the Amero, whatever -- they re going totake it.And then, when they can go back to buying their latte, and go to themovie theater, and put gas in their car at a reasonable price, they regoing to say: Thank God we ve got this.KC: Right.BD: But I can tell you right now, what I see is empty shelves.BR: And martial law.BD: And martial law. Remember now, martial law will be almost like atheater. It ll be on... They brought back an entire division. I postedup the article on Clay and Iron, and the dates. So if you go toClayandIron.com, I posted up that article.

They brought an entire division back to America to be permanentlystationed for civil defense inside the United States. That s 650,000battle-hardened troops, with heavy artillery and weapons, that llcontrol the civilian population. They don t need to be in their homecountry.The media that s on that screen there [television], I callSatan-vision. OK? In that box. What they need to do is they need tofrighten people into accepting whatever the agenda is.BR: Yep.BD: So they need a thing like the Katrina thing in one or anothercity or two or three cities. Maybe they need an event like... They vebeen working on this idea of blowing up dirty bombs or nukes in two or

three cities.BR: If...BD: I ve got the long and short list.BR: Yeah.BD: On both the long and the short list -- and I happen to be livingvery near to one of those. The very top of both lists is Los Angeles.KC: Yes.

BD: They re number one.KC: I think so, too.BD: Chicago, Detroit, all those three cities are on both long andshort lists. OK?BR: It feels to us that there is a violent event coming up.

BD: Yes, there is a very violent event coming up. And I see afinancial collapse, and I see, at the very latest by next year, athermonuclear explosion in a U.S. city, one or more cities, and civilwar in America. OK?And then a period of false peace after that. And a period of, youknow, them setting up this temple thing and kind of scaring the crapout of the population of the planet.BR: Yep.BD: And then I see this time period of 1230, literally marked off.Because, remember now, this is a religious ceremony. You see, the


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Bible isn t just a thing for the Jews or for the Christians. It s aLuciferic ceremony.BR: Yeah.BD: And they re marching through this as a clock, as an anti-type towhat they see happening. So that the globalists and the Illuminati use

this almost as a religious ceremony to kind of snub the face of theCreator of the universe. And say: No, we re God. So that s why thistimepiece is being marched on in Israel.BR: Hm.BD: OK? And when people grasp that... The reason why I m goingcalling you up today is because I don t know who he s, but there isanother witness. OK? He s the Witness of Yehudah, the witness ofJudah. He s a Torah Jew who does know this.And the greatest prophecy that was ever given by Yeshua Ha Masaich wasThe Prodigal Son, that the Ephraim, which is the 10 tribes, would behauled away, scattered over the Earth by the Assyrians, and that theywould return, and they would bring on their shoulders, literally theability to know how to protect the Jews on Earth.Because the holocaust is coming, Jews. You ve got to know that thereis a holocaust coming to kill every Jew on Earth, Sabbatian or not.And the reason is they have to expunge the Earth of any knowledge of a

Creator God. It doesn t matter if you re a Buddhist, or you re a

native Hopi or whatever. They ve got to get rid of them becausethere s a portion of truth that was given specifically by the Creatorto the Jews that other peoples did not receive in fullness.Just like there s a Bible code in the Bible. Why is that code in theBible? Why is it not in some Hopi things, or some tablets from someother civilization? It was there because it was set up as anobject-lesson to ask of the entirety of mankind: How will you dealwith Israel?How do you deal with it? As it says in Jeremiah, you know: There willbe a firepot burning all the nations around it. They re literallysetting a detonator to blow up the Earth.BR: Hm.BD: And they have weapons that can. They ve got anti-matter weapons

that can turn the Earth into shards, like, you know, like one of theseplanets that died in the ancient conflicts that they talk about, thatwas destroyed and created the asteroid belt between Mars and Earth.BR: Yes.BD: OK?BR: Oh, yeah.BD: They have those weapons now. They have things that you just can timagine that can be done that could blow the Earth, literally, intotiny fragments.BR: Mm hm.BD: OK? But whether we ll survive is not a geopolitical thing of whowe vote for or whether or not we re going to kind of will our minds.

Like, you know, some of the people figure if we just will it, it s allgoing to happen.It s going to require some painful decisions on our part to say: Hey,we re going to march in every city capital of every city. We re goingto march in every church to throw down their dogma -- which is theiram-god. They re not God.They have to hear the Voice of the Creator, whatever religion theyare, whatever spirituality, whatever agnosticism. If they don t,they re not going to survive, because this Earth is marked forjudgment. It s the end of the road. And if they don t turn back now...


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And that means all those ones who are called as prophets, of everyrace and tongue and people, you need to come out with a grand chorusand sing the song, as it says in the Bible, the Song of Moses. Youneed to sing the song of humanity that is a spiritual body that knowsthese things. We intuitively know it.When I talked to John Boncore, whose name is Splitting the Sky, who sa Mohawk prophecy-giver -- and he said this on air just this week.He said there was a prophecy given, you know, untold centuries ago,that a great, a young Mohawk would come and give a prophetic warningto the peoples of Earth.Well, he has, better than any other person, better than Phil Berg, oranyone else that I ve heard, put the financial trail of blood-moneybehind 9/11 together.People need to grasp this, that if we don t get back in touch withspirit instead of religion, we re going to all die, killing each otherfor religion.KC: Mm hm.BD: And for different financial agendas. Or we re going to save theplanet because of carbon dioxide, which is a lie. You know, we repolluting ourselves to death, so we won t even be able to reproducetwo generations from now.And it s all by design. It s designed that even if we didn t have apestilence or nuclear war, or whatever, that life on this planet is

soon going to die. We are a dying planet.If you re visiting here as an archeologist from another distant timeand another space to visit Earth, you d say: These people aresuicidal. They kill their prophets, just like it says in the Bible,you know, between the brazen laborer and the holy of holies.I m called to speak as Moses and as Elijah, to blow the trumpet, whichI ve done on my show. And God has given me a voice to speak to themand warn them. We are at the time of The End. And that s why my otherwebsite s called clay and iron.They need to know: Come out of Babylon, which means come out ofconfusion. Come out of religion. Come back in relationship.Stop believing lies. And the first lie is what you are. You re not abiological machine. You re not an advanced piece of slime that s

evolved. You re an infinite being that has the right to choose to havelife and to live it abundantly for thousands of years, literally, youknow, and have contact with advanced civilizations, and to survive,and to thrive.But if you don t choose life today... Just like Moses, when he set thepeoples between Mount Ebal and Mount Gerizim, we as a civilizationwill die.BR: Now, stepping back into the Black-Ops world, you will know thatwe ve been contacted by time-traveling future humans with a message.BD: Right.BR: And it d be interesting to hear your take on this. But ourunderstanding is that there are alternative timelines. Not all of them

are catastrophic.BD: Right.BR: We do have choices.BD: Sure we do.BR: It s not a done deal.BD: Oh, absolutely.BR: And what do you know of those contacts, those messages, and whatopportunities we have, and how those messages have been acted upon bythe people who ve received them?


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BD: Firstly, the way I would answer that is that the universe isstranger than even they can imagine. In other words, when you redealing with people... Let s say that we have posited that there arealternative timelines, and these people have traveled back frommultiple timelines.If we think of the -- I call it the universe as a One-I-Voice, inother words, there is a unification of All-That-Is because what theuniverse is, is not energy portrayed through advanced equations in acybernetic world. It is literally the passage of spirit through amontage of images.And when you start to understand that, there is only one. In otherwords, there is not... There are maybe multiple possible futures. . .BR: Mm hm.BD: But there is only ONE real future.BR: OK.BD: OK?BR: Right.BD: But we do have a choice because... I say we foregive. We actually

are creating whichever timeline we are going get, whichever rail weare going to get on.BR: Yes.BD: Otherwise, it would be purposeless to even have human beingsbecause we d just be automatons because the future is already set in

stone and whatever is going to happen will happen.BR: Exactly. Yep.BR: And we aren t. We are actually in the image of the Creator. Weare actually the, if you want to call it, the incarnation of the I AMthat said: Let there be light in the universe, as human beings in this

world.And there s other beings of other types that are across the cosmosthat are incarnations of the same I AM. And they ve come to theknowledge that they are and have that responsibility to be, in asense, midwives to Earth in the birthing-room of this civilization.KC: Yes.BD: We re literally in the birthing-room now.

BR: Yes. But, what do you know, and what have you heard, of thosemessages from future humans who presumably are altruistically tryingto help in some way? Because they re looking back through their ownhistory saying, you know: Don t do that stuff because this happened tous. Or some other message. What do you know about this?BD: You have to use a great deal of discernment. Because one of thethings about alternative timelines, in terms of an actual being coming

back from a timeline, is you have to think: Is this inserted ideas?Because the very nature of the universe is that there is one timelinethat you follow. There may be alternatives that you have a choice of.But you have to use discernment.You ve got to remember that, in a sense, we live in a matrix. We live

in a cybernetic world that, to a great extent, is the manifestation of

a higher dimensional reality of being that transcends our physicalbody.For example, I try to tell people this repeatedly, is that your mind,i.e., which is equal to your soul, is not physical. It doesn t existon this plane. So when people talk about psychic phenomena anddoppelgangers and other things, what they re really referring to issomething that s just the very nature of what we are.Our physical mind doesn t exist on this level. OK? The physical mind


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is just a chemical computer. It s a bunch of neurons connected; thatyou re connected to nuclei, and our eyes and our physical senses.But our physical brain is not what we are. It s connected through thecord of the living waters to our physical brain. And so, if we don tunderstand what kind of a being we are, we won t make correctdecisions.So part of this idea of timelines, or even incarnation... For exampleif you talk to people about incarnation, they ll say: Well, 40% of theincarnations are supposedly from the future.BR: Hm... Yes. Yes.BD: Or even non-human beings. OK?BR: Yep.BD: But the way I tell the people is, I say: Maybe you re just kindof picking up, almost like a radio tuned into a certain frequency,certain object-lessons or spiritual things so that you can understandsomething you re supposed to learn or remember in this lifetime.In other words, you re not becoming... Does that make sense?BR: Mm hm.BD: So that s why I see this as being a misinterpretation of it. OK?So this idea that there is alternative timelines, I think is adeception, a very, very significant deception. Because it says thatthe world is a mechanistic Cartesian world that s created byenergetics and we re just kind of like leaves that are pushed along byenergy, space, and time, and we really don t have any choices to our

future.In fact, we actually ARE the Gods of this world. But I m not talkingabout replacement of the Creator God. I mean hearing the voice anddoing the will. And that s a very different thing. So, in other words,reality is created on this energetic plane by spirit. It s not theother way around.BR: Of course.BD: And that s the problem we re in. So, when you hear people sayingthat they ve had physical contact, the deception is very, verypowerful.We re right here now with mankind, as is said in the Eschaton thattranscends time and space, to make a decision for life, whether thiscivilization is going to survive what s coming or it s going to be

annihilated.And we re very close to that, and we can see the object-lesson ofIsrael as the final crux. Just look at the foreign policy and look atthe financial policy. Look at all of these things.The two groups that are running the world right now, that are running-- literally driving it into the ground -- are the Teutonic Knights;the Hansiatic League. Right? That believes that their bloodline isdescended from Yeshua Ha Masaich.And all the kings and queens of Europe and all the czars of Russia,the Caesars, believe their bloodline is descended from Jesus Christand King David. Why? That s bizarre! Why? But it s the truth.You can talk to Jordan Maxwell and others and find it out, MichaelTsarion and others. Why? Why? Why would that be?

And then the other group are the Sabbatians. Right? The Sabbatians are

basically Satanists. These are, you know... Even though, you know,they ll say: Well, we re communists -- the Israelis -- because theyhad the Russians there at the inception of the Israeli state. They renot. They believe they re God. There is no God.They re trying to say, just like Bill Maher and his movie Religulous.You know, obviously he s a Kabbalist. He believes in the Kabbalah. Andthe highest level of the Kabbalah... If you go deep into Masonry, orentirely, you go right back to the Temple of Solomon. They re


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completely... They all look Jewish, but they re not. They re Satanic.They go right back to Atlantis and before.BR: Hm.BD: These were adopted into it and invaded into it at the time ofSolomon. That s why they ll say they ll elevate Solomon, and thatSolomon was a great leader. No. He allowed the body of the truth ofancient Israel to be infected by this monstrosity.BR: Mm hm. Getting back to what you were saying about the reality, or

otherwise, of these alternative timelines, what I hear you saying is,it s almost like an intellectual trick, because it doesn t reallycount.BD: Right.BR: What s in front of us is what s in front of us, and that s ourreal responsibility.BD: Right.BR: And anything else... It s almost like it s not relevant whetherit s real or not, because it depends on what you mean by real.BD: Right.BR: And the really, real situation is here and now.BD: Exactly.BR: And that s the only thing that matters.BD: Yes, and also it might give you a false decision-tree to baseyour ideas on and therefore steer you in a direction of wasted

intention.BR: I understand.BD: That s the first thing. Wasting action. And wasted effort. Forexample, people think there s going to be a difference if we electMcCain/Palin or Obama/Biden. I don t think it makes a difference. Itmight make a difference if you had somebody like Cynthia McKinney orChuck Baldwin. But how likely is it they d be elected president?BR: Yeah. It s not going to happen.BD: It s not going to happen. The problem is, Cynthia McKinney is ablack woman. She s brilliant; she s tough. She s calling for a 9/11investigation. This woman would make an absolutely amazing president.OK? But how likely is it for her to get in there?And the problem is they may also come with baggage, what we call

environmental baggage, which is, we ve got to reduce the world soxygen/carbon dioxide. That s crazy! It s not science. OK?I was an oceanographer. I did work with Greenpeace. Carbon dioxide iswhat makes the plants, including the phytoplankton in the upper 10metres of the benthic layer of the oceans produce all the oxygen. Andour oxygen level now is down from what it was in ancient Mesozoic era,

from 30%, down to what it is now.So you know, I think what it is, we have to stop looking for anexternal messiah where all these so-called great religions... Like for

example, Mr. Ahmadinejad thinks he s going to see the Imam-Mahdi, orthe Christians think they re going to see a messiah...

KC: Right.BD: ...come in the clouds, you know whether... Which is ridiculous.BR: And there are a bunch of people who think the ETs will save us.BD: Right. They think the ETs... You see, this ET save us stuff iscrazy stuff, too.BR: Right.BD: The fact is, what s going to save us is us. You know, it s likethe inverse of Pogo s statement there, you know: I ve seen the enemyand the enemy is us. I ve seen the messiah and the messiah is us.BR: Very good.


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BD: I hope this kind of gets people to kind of drop their oldparadigms and I hope I get them to, you know, like Marshall McKluen,tune in and drop out. In other words, drop out of false lies,whether it s politics or religion or thinking these other things aresolutions. Become personally responsible. Become public and interactwith other people.Don t think that, by default, if you don t say anything about ityou re not responsible for the death of 15- to 32-million Iranians anda radiation cloud that circulates the planet and destroys your ownhealth.KC: Right.BD: The sins of omission are greater than the sins of commission. And

the sins of silence are greater than the sins of action.BR: Yes.KC: Yes. I second that. And this is where we ask for everyone to take

part.BR: And it s all got something to do with you.BD: Right. Absolutely. I hope it transforms some hearts. As YeshuaHa Masaich Jesus said: The message of the kingdom is now, whichmeans, it s now, as soon as you attend to shemah, to hear and do thewill of the Creator God of the universe and not to think that you canset external commandments and create peace on Earth. What you ll do is

you ll create pieces of Earth. [laughter]BR: Is there any final sound-byte that you... Is there anything thatyou haven t said that you want to leave these people with right now?Because this is the chance.BD: Well, what I would say is, firstly, prepare for a series ofspasms and disasters.BR: When you say prepare, you mean physically and logisticallyprepare?BD: Spiritually prepare first. But physically prepare. Have your food

and water, have your civil defense. We have a whole series of civildefense things. I m actually working with Gordon Peterson in HomelandSecurity to stop aircraft bringing in pandemic viruses.

Prepare to have things to protect yourself from pandemic avian flu,which we have on our website, nutrimedical.com. Prepare yourself to be

home-quarantined for anywhere from six weeks to two months or more.BR: Anywhere in the world? Or here in America?BD: Anywhere. Anywhere on the planet. Be prepared for food shortageson a massive scale, starting as early as this fall. Be prepared toknow how to have... in other words, I don t tell people to join themilitia. I tell people to start shooting clubs.I believe that we need to exert our Second Amendment right, not sothat we can go out and start shooting fellow Americans, but we canprotect ourselves if things get out of hand.I worked with federal agents at the Federal Center in Denver and they

did simulations and actually were stockpiling pallets of gold bullion,

gold coins, and bales of heroine to interact with gangs; so thatbetween 4 and 12 days after a state of national civil emergency, likenuclear war, they could trade with the gangs that would control everycity.BR: When was that, Bill, that you encountered that?BD: That was in 1997.BR: But that s all still in force.BD: Oh yes, all those things. Their COG [Continuity of Government]


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which was set up by George Bush, Sr., made it even more serious. Sothat COG plan, and all those things, have been done going back, likeover grades, going back since Eisenhower.BR: OK.BD: They ve been doing this for a long time. And it s not just inAmerica. You have to understand, these plans are replicated in oneform or another in Canada, in Britain, in Australia, in Africannations, in China. They have policies.There s over 4,000 underground facilities around the world alone. Andin America, two giant facilities besides the little ones, that are amile-and-a-half to four miles down.I mean, they ve been going crazy. And most of the illegal money isdrug money coming from the illegal sale of heroine and cocaine,OxyContin, Ecstasy, etc., three-quarters of a trillion dollars intoweird projects.BR: Yeah.BD: And again, they re addicted to this. They re addicted to moneythat isn t under the scrutiny of the Congress or Senate. And I don tthink, if either party is elected, they re going to steer us away fromthis.We have to get away from thinking the political system is going tosolve this. It s not. Or the religious, you know. A lot of peoplethink if they just go pray a whole lot in church, whatever church they

belong to? They re crazy.BR: Yep.BD: They need to start taking action. We mean action to the street,to their neighbors and they need to say: Hey, I don t want toparticipate in the winding down of civilization.BR: Yep.BD: Because they need to see that this is the first stage here. Thisis the devolution of the economy. And the next stage after thedevolution of the economy and a release of a pandemic or martial law-- and it won t just be in America -- is the hard-chipping of thepopulation, forced vaccination, pandemic, and the hard kill s going tostart.BR: Mm hm.

BD: And I m talking about hard kill, where they re going to try tokill 90% of human beings on the planet with either pandemics, injected

viruses, lethal weapons systems or whatever, or starvation justbecause of economic chaos. And people say: Oh no. They wouldn t dothat.I have contacts inside the Canadian and U.S. government that havesaid, if there is a total breakdown of society for 30 days, half thepopulation in Canada and the same in the States would be dead.BR: Yep. From violence.BD: Not from a pandemic. From violence.BR: Yeah. Yep. People will do it themselves. Yeah.BD: The violence will be... Just take a city, like, let s say you had

a city like Los Angeles and you took out 20 blocks with a 10-kilotonnuclear weapon, with a population kill of let s say 200,000. AndCalifornia devolved into a state where there s no trucks goinganywhere with any food. And this is a place where it s a breadbasket.This state would be a seething caldron of death, and half thepopulation would probably be dead within 30 days. Just because of theroving gangs shooting each other up, and trying to grab food that wasleft and getting trucks and whatever.KC: Right.BR: Yes.


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BD: It would be insane. It would make Road Warrior look like a party.

And people say: Oh no, it couldn t get that bad. I said: The guys whotold me were special forces that worked at the Federal Center thattold me this. And they shocked me back in 97 when they told me thisstuff.BR: Yeah. And all of this is being modeled as well.BD: Yeah. So I tell people they ve got to start preparing fordisaster. And then we ll come back out of that. Because when theybring it out, the next thing is: Oh, that wasn t too bad. It was onlytwo weeks of martial law. Or six weeks.BR: Yes. That s just to get people acclimatized to the idea.BD: Just like Katrina, you know. We let the people in Katrina nowlive in trailers that would ruin their health or they have homes thatare still loaded with mold that are killing them. Right?Or, we let them federalize parts of the country. That s totallyagainst the Constitution. Right? They re still federalizing. The cityof Detroit s federalized, the city of New Orleans. This is a violationof Federal and State law. What are they doing?They re eventually going to federalize the whole country becausethey ve been, grade by grade, running martial law and admiralty lawparallel with the Constitution.And eventually they re just going to get rid of that, in George Bush,Jr. s terms: That GD piece of paper.

They re just going to throw it away and say: Guess what guys. We vegot enough executive orders; we ve got enough Blackwater Securityworldwide -- which are the Rothschilds private army. Right? -- Andwe re going to take you on.BR: Yep.BD: OK? So people need to grasp that. And they need to be preparedfor things. And they need to be able to stand up. And if they don tstand up, well...BR: Is it possible that some of the white hats in Intel and themilitary will stand up themselves?BD: They are already. I ve already got contacts who ve told me. LikeWilliam Fallon, you know, was public. He said: Not on my watch willyou start a war against Iran. They fired him.

KC: Yes.BD: They put two people of Jewish descent in there that are willingto take orders, that are willing to attack Iran.BR: Sure.BD: Twice in the last year-and-a-half, these Israelis tried to godowntown. The last time was around June 24th when the Americangovernment allowed 100 Israeli jets to do air maneuvers, and a wargame over Iraqi airspace.And the Russians detected it with their satellite-based imaging, andstarted to scramble, transfer codes -- for the launch codes -- fortheir submarine-launched nuclear missiles, and their Bear bombersheading toward North America. People don t know. We were moments awayfrom a thermonuclear war in June.

BR: We heard about that.BD: I mean, most people say: Oh, that doesn t happen. You people arecrazy. I say: Well, I ve got contacts. I went back weeks later andverified it from my sources.BR: Yep.BD: And so people say: Oh, that can t happen. You ve just got areally good imagination. I said: I wish. I mean, this is a damnednightmare.BR: Yeah.BD: And it s really happening. But I m brave enough to say it because


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I know there s no alternative. If I don t speak out against this...You can t move far enough away. You can t move to the south island ofNew Zealand and think you re going to be safe. Or Paraguay. There isnowhere on this planet you can move away from this without iteventually taking you if you don t stand up to this evil.So if I have any messages: Prepare for disaster. Speak out now because

you re going to be silenced very shortly.And believe me, they won t be able to silence your blood-curdlingscreams as you re hauled away in a Black-Op truck in the middle of thenight, or a railcar with the shackles grinding into your ankles andyour wrists, as you re screaming because you know you re going away tothe death chambers. OK?This really is getting prepared. They re getting prepared. They veshipped in the plastic coffins. They ve got the railcars. They ve gotthe incineration stations all ready. They ve got everything ready.People say: Oh, it doesn t exist. I say: Well, my condolences to youbecause if you want to attack me and say that I m a crackerjackbecause I give all these spiritual and other things, you re going tosuffer and then you re going to die. And you re not just going to diea physical death, you re going to die a spiritual death.BR: Yep. And one of the reasons why you die a spiritual death isbecause you never stood up when you could have done.BD: Right. The greatest sins are the sins of silence in the face of

evil.BR: Yes. We second that.KC: Absolutely. We absolutely second that. Thank you very much.BR: Bill, thank you so much.

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