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Over? Did You Say Over?

Ryan Sweet, Director of Real-Time Economics,

Moody’s Analytics

April 3, 2019

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Over? Did You Say Over?

Disclaimer:

Economics

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Financial variables

Economic variables

Recession Odds Moved Higher Probability of U.S. recession in 12 mo, %, using only…

Source: Moody’s Analytics

Recessions

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Recessions Are Almost NonexistentStatus as of Jan 2019 data

Sources: Moody’s Analytics

Mid-Expansion

Recession/ At Risk

Late Expansion

Recovery

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84

08 09 10 12 13 14 16 17 18

Expansion Pulls in Prime-Age Workers

Sources: BLS, Moody’s Analytics

Labor force participation rate, %

Prime-age, 25-54 (L)

Total (R)

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90 92 94 96 98 00 02 04 06 08 10 12 14 16 18 20F

West Northeast

Midwest South

New Lows for Regional Joblessness

Sources: BLS, Moody’s Analytics

Unemployment rate, %

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-0.2

-0.1

0.0

0.1

75 79 83 87 91 95 99 03 07 11 15

A Flatter Phillips CurveSlope of the Phillips Curve using 15-yr rolling regressions

Source: Moody’s Analytics

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MinneapolisSan JoseChicago

New York CityPhoenix

DallasDetroit

WashingtonMiami

PhiladelphiaBoston

Los AngelesHouston

AtlantaSeattle

2017Q3

2018Q3

Labor Costs Rise in Many Large Areas

Sources: BLS, Moody’s Analytics

Employment cost index, % change yr ago, NSA

Consolidated metropolitan

statistical areas

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San Francisco New York San Jose Boston Boise Phoenix

2012 2013 2014

2015 2016 2017

Costs Drive Migration Inland

Sources: Census Bureau, IRS, Moody’s Analytics

Net domestic migration per thousand residents, #, 2012 to 2017

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1 Reasons for

Optimism…

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700

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Breakeven level* Actual

Some Wiggle Room for Initial Claims Initial claims for unemployment insurance benefits, ths

Sources: BLS, Moody’s Analytics

*Level consistent with no monthly job growth

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2.00

2.25

2.50

2.75

3.00

3.25

3.50

18 19 20 21

Fed's Dot Plot (Dec-18) Fed's Dot Plot (Mar-19)

Fed funds futures OIS

Fed and Markets On Same Page for 2019Expected path of the fed funds rate, yr-end, %

Sources: Bloomberg L.P., Moody’s Analytics

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2.50

2.75

3.00

19Q1 19Q2 19Q3 19Q4

Baseline forecast

Expected value of the fed funds rate**

**Fed funds rate based

on our subjective odds

of a hike vs. cut

Odds Favor No Hikes Fed funds rate, %, end of qtr

Source: Moody’s Analytics

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-0.1

0.0

0.1

0.2

0.3

GDP Unemployment rate

3 mo 6 mo 12 mo

Making It CountImpact of a Fed pause by duration, ppt, 2020

Source: Moody’s Analytics

(0) (0)

Fed pause occurs in 2019Q1

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Housing Will RespondResidential investment response to a 1 ppt drop in mortgage rates

Sources: Moody’s Analytics

Real, deviation from the baseline, %

X-axis is number of quarters from decline in mortgage rates

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0.5

UnitedStates

China Japan Euro Area World

+ Market reaction

+ Confidence effect

+ Vehicles with retaliation

+ 25% Chinese tariffs with retaliation

Current tariffs

Total

Trump’s Trade War Could End% difference in 2019 GDP with no trade war scenario

Sources: IMF, Moody’s Analytics

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2 …And Concern

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Present conditions Expectations

% difference between positive and negative responses

Source: Moody’s Analytics

Businesses Are Anxious

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Can’t Find the Exit Difference in Real GDP in 2020Q4, No deal vs. May proposal

Source: Moody’s Analytics

Lower by less than half a ppt

Lower by half to one ppt

Lower by more than one ppt

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Leveraged Firms Leverage UpLeveraged loans, $ bil

Sources: IMF, Moody’s

Note: 2018 issuance is YTD annualized

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Trade War Hurts Northwest, South MostPeak % difference in real GDP, trade conflagration vs. no tariff

Sources: BEA, Moody’s Analytics

>-1.2

-1.2 to -2.2

<-2.2

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New Tax Law Hits the Northeast HardestChange in real GDP growth over the next decade due to tax plan

Sources: BEA, JCT, IRS, Moody’s Analytics

Larger GDP gain

Moderate GDP gain

Similar GDPLower GDP

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3 What to Watch

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01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19

Breakeven level* Actual

Some Wiggle Room for Initial Claims Initial claims for unemployment insurance benefits, ths

Sources: BLS, Moody’s Analytics

*Level consistent with no monthly job growth

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Only Some Are Flashing Red

Source: Moody’s Analytics

Indicator Type Tim e to recession, m os Threshold Recession Risk

Hours worked for production workers Leading 1 to 10 year-over-year decline Low

Net % of banks tightening lending standards on C&I Leading 1 to 5 >20% Low

ISM m anufacturing index Leading 3 to 6 43.2 Low

S&P 500 Leading 3 to 9 20% correction Medium

Jobless claim s Leading 4 to 5 >253 Low

Consum er confidence Leading 5 to 10 30 point decline from peak Low

TED spread Leading 7 to 8 >100 basis points Low

Yield curve 10-yr m inus 2-yr Leading 8 to 14 0 Medium

Yield curve 10-yr m inus 3-m o Leading 8 to 15 0 Medium

Housing perm its Leading 10 to 12 year-over-year decline Low

Financial stress index Leading 11 to 15 >1 Low

Unem ploym ent rate-NAIRU Leading 30 to 36 High

Core capital goods orders Coincident 0 year-over-year decline Low

Unem ploym ent rate Coincident 0 Increase of 25-35 basis points Low

Industrial production Coincident 0 year-over-year decline Low

ISM nonm anufacturing index Lagging 1 49 Low

Em ploym ent Lagging 2 to 4 year-over-year decline Low

Real GDP Lagging 3 to 6 <potential growth Low

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Recession

Next Recession

Recession Garnering More Interest U.S. Google search term, 100=peak popularity

Sources: Google Trends, Moody’s Analytics

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