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Article in "Northern Virginia S'"u.."l,., fo r

21 November 1967 Enti t led 1108·TP..ID's Let te r

S t i l l a Puzzle" by Robert S . AL!..E::i and

Paul SCOTT

The attached a r t i c l e refers to"the baf f l ing quest ion th e

FBI i s still t ry ing to answer , concerning Offi·TALD's knowledge o f

Cuban Consul Eusebio AZ[.tUE' s reca l l t o Cuba . ~ J i:muen.do the a r t i c l e

in fers a "mystery" i s involved in OSHALD's knowledge and s t a t e s t h a t

GARRISON hE.s sa id the 08\·TALD l e t t e r i s a very il:!portant pa r t of' h is

investigat:. .on .

Zz11The Repor t of the President ' s Commission on t he Assassinat ion

o f President KENNEDY, , p . 301 through 310, the t:a:tter o f OSHALD's

v i s i t to the Cuban Embassy in :t-!exico City i s de·;;ai.led and inc ludesa descript ion of OSWALD 1 s dealings vTith Cuban Consul Eusebio AZQUE

and a I:l.ember of AZQUE ' s s ta f f , Senora SilviCL Tirado de DURAN,. a

Mexican nat ional who 'vas sympathetic to OSHALD a21d. t r i ed to a s s i s t

him in obtaining a Cuban visa . In order to obta in a vi sa fo r en t ry

in to Cuba it was necessary fo r Offi.TALD to f i r s t obta in a visa to e n t e r

the U. S . S.R. SilviQ:de DURAN t e s t i f i ed t ha t ad:::ittedly exceeding her

r espons ib i l i t i e s , she informal ly telephoned the Russian consula te

with the in tent ion o f doing what she could to fac i l i t a t e i ssuance o f

the Russian visa to OSHAI..D . The Russian Consulate repl ied t h a t it

would take four months to process his appl icat ion and on hear ing t h i s ,.

OS1-TALD created a scene which resul ted in angry . o:!"ds with Consul AZQUE

who came out o f h is off ice . AZQUE to ld OSi·TALD t h a t " i f it were up to

him , h e woul d not give him a vi sa ; " t hat "a person of hi s type was

harming the Cuban Revolution ra ther than helping it . "

The "t-larren Report on p . 310 then reports t ha t CIA advised

th e Commission of the fol lo,dng .

"He surmise t ha t the refer ences in OS.·TAI.D 1 s 9 Nov ember 1963

l e t t e r to a man vrho had since been replaced I!IUSt refer to Cuban Consul

Eusebio A ~ U E , who l e f t Mexico fo r Cuba on peroa.ne!lt t r an s fe r on 18 Novenbe:-1963, four days before the assas s inat ion . A ~ U E cad been in Mexico fo r

18 years and it w-as known as ear ly as September 1963 t h a t AZQUE was to

b e replaced. His replacement did ar r ive in S e p ~ e ~ e r AZQUE T ~ sschedul ed to 1ea·;e in October but did not leave U!!-.i.l 18 November 1963 .

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that Silvia D U E . . : : . . = ~ :::::- sor:1e Soviet off ic is . l might h:=.ve mentioned i t

i f OSHALD c o m : 9 l e . ~ : - . : : i aboilc AZQUE' s al tercat ion •,rith him.

I there is l i t t l e substance to the inference

in ALLEN ana >:oGUTJ:'S column that there is a great eystery aboutOSWALD's knowledge of AZQUE's recal l and referred to the WarrenReport as quoted above.

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Still a Puzzle.•By ROBERT S. ALLEN

and PAUL SCOTT

-F·Y.l:" . . - ~ a r . ; after tlte- ~ s a s - ,.:n:.:. · ) . 1 . Pt·esldent Kennedy.

~ : , e FBI 'is still investi.;atinl' amy:>.:cry i r w o l · : i 1 1 . ~ the c-Jntent:; of

:he :;1,s1 \ettct• i.ce 1-brvcy O S \ \ ~ \ l dw ~ · · J : ~ ~ r , j 1 · e · r ~ : Dallas tra;edy.

n ~ O ! ~ ( " 1 ' € ' € - I > O n d e n c e . i n t ~ r c e o p t e dand read bv the FB f Eef•Jt'e jt <11'·

' rkej at iis drsqn•ion was mail·

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on Xov. 12. 18GJ--or 10 days be·!or th" a.ssaossination.Wt·· rten as d. request for a

Soviet visa. tho:!' :etter containeda p a t ' 1 i . ~ u - . s p h reiP.t·r.ng to the high·

lv s e c ~ t recall of a CUban O:ti·

c:ia:l :n the- :\texico Clo:y embassy

days after Oswald h.:td \isited

r h ~ 1 - e and rearmed to Dallas.1i1e ba.if'.irt: q u ~ t i o n the FBI

is stiH tryin:; tr, a n ~ . w e r ;s:How dict Oswald l'Ylrn ab..;.ut

i h ; ~ oWcial's unannouncerl re.

c a l l ~ .Th!' FBI has c:oocluded ~ 1 u • ir.

: c ~ n a t h l n wou:d ha.\·e ln d 10

t-ome tc- Qsv.-ald !rem cn't" ol rhreoe

sources:(l l An id(;tmant in Cu.ban

Emb:.l$SY ln : J i e x ! ~ City ,,·h; C'On·

tc=.ctcd Oswald after h? returned

to the- u . s ~ 12l the Central ln .

t e W ~ n c e . . \ ~ n c y , ot' {31 the

KGB. the So'liet secret polk-e.Slgni·flcantly. the FBI inquiry

ascertair .ed that CI \ and KGBoperntors -in 1Iexico City learnedof ttre oUidal"Joi recall at approx;m!l.:e'v the same time and only

a \'-"eek b e f o ~ o ~ w a l d wrcte hislf'ttc-:; c:ontaining the foU:,,·ing

parn..,..l'h:"0 [ c.-o.urse the Soviet Embassy

\•·as not at tau:lt. ttrey were, as Is : ~ v u n p t - e " ~ ! ' N l . the CuMn Consul uqs guilty a gross breach

d regula:iorts. I am gtad he ha s

since been rep}aced. ·•' ~ " " " ' .. ..':"'9' ..""'"" ~ t ' s Cir:('r ..........

rMre was a ~ u u t e u l y r.o , ..ay 0••v"-'1 c ~ : u ' d h < = ~ \ " 1 ' ~ h t a i n e t : l .1-'>'!'

inf:rmar"on du:-ir:z his Seo•emh'"r..-isit to ) . T e ~ < \ ' i · : o ·Cit:r. since tht>

secret t-ee'I.U orders rrom H a n t n ~""E're M')' t t < l n - . m l t t ~ U'"ltil <'I rtf'.'"

he had r e t u r n ~ to Dallas. Eventhen there wns ·no publicity andonly a lut ndful o{ pel"50o,s knewabout the ordet"S, one FBI report

state!.D u r i - m : i : t ~ i n v e s r ! ~ t i o n or theK e ~ assassin..r:on. the W a r - ~

re-n Cornmission ilirxted onP inuiry to CIA to Oet!l"rmint" w h ~ r e 0::;wald migilt "ha .. "t" obtai ner-d

fC'. .,ott:on. I t pr-oduced nc-:;::uivt

re . l i s .Tht"' CI. \ "s memorandum to thP

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O' l fi!, . •., th" :\\t::o.nJl .'\rchives,

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. - \ : ~ ~ . : - recei\in.; this reply trom

the CIA. the Warren Corr.mls-

~ ; . n · : : . .s.:J.!f mad!!! no furthe-r jn

quiL·y on Azque reference,

but c e - n ~ e r e d their probe on the

c : i t c u . - n ~ : ancc.s under which the

lt't\€t' was preparl"d and laferr l i . s m v e r ~ .

The c:onunission's inquj.1-ythe Oswa!d letter. most detail:>.

of wNch were but·ied jn the 2F;

voluumes <Jf testimony, ;revealedthat .:\Irs. Ruth Paine, on \Vhosel\"pP.writer th e !inal draft was

made. an d :\I::ui..'l.a Oswald. k.Jvwd ;h e !et1er an.j tts conrems before it was mailed.

)Jrs. Paine testified Oswaldtyped the letter \\."hile spendin;;rhE> ~ · o " v - e m b e r 9 ,..,·eekend at he r

residenc.""e with his \-:,ife. Aft""l' ob- ·st:t·ving the- ~ e t t e r \vhen Oswalrlwas not arowtd. :\Irs. Paine ,said

copied it . 11te eommission·s

l ' C ~ " C t ' d ~ h o w s s i ~ - : > tu..rned the copy

ov-er to the FBI on ~ o v . 23, thect.Jy afier the assassination.

An FB I repJrt on filt- in

Na::•Jnal A r c h i \ ' 1 : ~ ' - ' i . which h < ~ ~ < : .been r e < . ~ n t l y d e c L ; ~ s s i f h ~ d . I V J t e ~that the agency :started its i.1·vestigativn i m m ~ i a t z l y on inter-

cepting- O.•wa!d's letter af\\?1' j:

was mailed on Nov. 12 in Irvin;;.Texas.

At the time. the F"'B[ a ~ n t ~ in\'Cived in the intel'C"!pt cOPied tilt>

tt>Xt o( the lt>tter and put ito ~ w < t l d ' s \ n ! ~ h i n g o n me \\ith anote that one part.lgraph \'edfied

e ~ r H e r infc-:mation on Os\\--.a\d's

:vrexico Cit'' ,·i.sil.' r . 1 ~ rr: te-. pointed out titat 0.:--

"·ald's: mention of ''Com:aO.o;o

Kos·!r." in the letter c<>n!lrmed

a CIA report that he had metw•·t1 Valerity V!adim:rovi.ch K ~stikov, a member the consular

~ t a f f cf ·hC' S o ~ · i f ' ~ E m h ~ - s y . and

or thf' l•)P KGB . fficers in the\\"·."':':':e :-n Hf·rn :sp!it't"C.O:o\\·"11d's '·la.st lett('r·· with it:;

r e ' f c 1 · c n c ~ · to th!" Cubcm Eml:t1ssy

ofncial is also bcin; i n v e s t i g < ~ t e r lbv Odea.ns District Attorney

J,,mcs Gan.iscn.RcCOlTIS in ; ! 1 ~ ; · N : t t i o n F ~ · I .\t··

chi\·e,s hc.o:-e shO\' Garrison's in-

,·r•s!'o;atoM recently combed th e

f i l ~ s tor informati-;n aho)ut thf"

o-"·a 1d !ettr-r nn<l about hO'.Y"

lccH-nPrl of Cor.sul EuS<'bioAl'Quc":; unannoun"ed rrc<lll.

On e \dtn<>:o-.... "h o <l'f."PeR,·ed inre:-M1t W l ' ? k ~ txofon• OnTisorl"s.

;::-rRnd j u r ~ · p r o ~ of the- Kennf"dyp.:; , ..... i n a . t i o n . I:'\., reoortro to a.

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no way OswQ.!d co:..:lJ. h:tve o o t ~ n c d ~ h : s ! n f o r r : - . a ~ ~ o : ~ C:.u:-·i n < ~ l!is Scotembe:- visit to Mexico C1ty, since t::e secret :-ec : ~ l l ::>rders £ro::1 Havann w ~ r e no t tnnsmi tted unHl : . f t ~ rhe h:.d :e!urned to D a ! l ~ s . Even then there ·.vas ::o p:..rrlic!t y a:-:d o ~ l y a har.c!£ul persor.s kr.ew about the orders. one FBr reoo..t states.

Du.:in .,. Hs ln\:cstig;:tio!\ of the Ke:medy o . s s a ~ ! ~ : 1 : i o : 1 . ,th e Warren Cor.tmis:;ion directed one inql!iry to t i : ~ CIAto c l e t e r ~ 1 i n e where Oswald m:ght have obta:ced inrorr.:atio:l. It produced negat!ve resc!t.;. . .

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nave told Oswald t h : l ~ Azqce W : l ~ !O be repbced." : <> _ . :

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Ti:c c . : > : - 7 1 : - d s ~ i o r . ' s inquir/ i:tto Os·s.lld lette:-. most .d ~ t : : . i l s o ( · s ~ i c h were ou:\ed i.rt !he 26 volu.-:-.es cii ~ e s U mo::y, revealed : ~ : ~ . t 4\irs. Ruth Pair.e. o ~ w!:osa tyi)ew!'itert!le finai c ! r . l ~ t was mace, ::.nd ~ I : l : i n : : . O s w ~ l d . knew oiiettcr an d it s cor:tents be:ore ! t wa$ rn:lilecl.

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in the or igmal , dated 9 Novemb e r 19b3, which w as di rec ted to the

Soviet Em bassy in Washington . This l e t t e r i s reproduced below,

exact ly a s typed.

"FROM: L E E H . OSWALD , P . 0 . BOX 6225 , DALLAS, TEXAS

MARINA NICHILA YEVA OSWALD, SOVIET CITIZEN

"Dea r s i r s ;

' ' ,TO: CONSULAR DIVISION

EMBASSY U . S .S . R .

WASIDNGTON , D . C .

NOV . 9, 19 63

"This i s to inform you of recent events s i ncom my meetings

with comrade Kost in in the Emba!:>sy Of the Soviet Union, Mexico

Ci ty, Mexico .

"I was unable to r emain in Mexico indef ini ly because of my

mexican visa res t r ic t ions which was for 15 days only . I could not

t.-1.ke a chance on r eqes ting a new visa unless I used m y rea l name , ,

so I re tured to the United States .

"I had not planned to contact the Soviet embassy in Mexico sc

they were unprepared , had I been able to reach the Soviet Embass•

in Havana as planned, the embassy there would have had t ime to

complete our bus iness .

" Of corse the Soviet embassy was not a t faul t , they wer e , Isay unprepared , the Cuban consula te w as guil ty of a gross brea c

regulations , I am glad he has sinc e been rcp lced . I" The Fed e ra l Bureu of Invest igat ion i s not nov. intt. ;rested

m y act ivi t ie s in lhe progr e ss ive or ganizat ion " F a i r Play F o r C

Commil lec" , of which I was s e c r e t a r - ~ in Nt.;w Or leans (s t a t e I

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s ince I no lon r{e r res id e in lha l sta t e . How evt;;r , th e F .B . I . ha s

visted us here in Dallas , Texas , on November l s l . Ag en t James

P . Hasty warned me that if I engaged in F . P . C .C . activit ie s inTexas the F . B . I . will again tak u an " in te r r es t " in me .

"This agent also "sugges ted" to Marina Nichi layeva that she

could r ema in in lhe United Sta tes under F . B . I . " p r o t e c t i o n ~ ' . that

i s , she could defect f rom lh e Sov ie t Uion , of couse , I and m y wife

strongly pro tes ted thes e tac t ics by the notor ious F .B . I .

"P l ease inform us of the ar r iva l of our Soviet entrance visa 1 s

a s soon a s they come.

"Also , this is to inform you of the bi r th , on Octobe r 20, 1963

of a DAUGHTER , AUDREY MARINA OSWALD in DALLAS, TEXAS,

to m y wife .

"R.especful ly ,

t s J L e eH . Oswald"

NOTE: Mrs . Ruth PA1NE found the following rough draf t of a l e t ter

in the handwriting C?f L ee OSWALD some t ime during the middle

pa r t of November 1963. (The por t ions crossed out in pen a re

a s OSWALD d e le ted them in h is dra f t . )

11Dea r Si r s

"This is to in form you of events s ince my in terview

with com rade Kostin e in the Em bass}r of the Sovie t Union ,

M exico C i ty , Mexico.

11I was unable to r emain in Mexico City ..f>e.Era.tls-e--I

e efl:Bide?eel use less ind efini tely because of m y ~ Mexican

v is a res t r ic t ions which w as for 15 days only . I had a I

could not take a chance on applying fo r an extens ion unless

I used m y r e a l nam e so I re turned to the U . S .

"I and Marina Nicholyeva a re now l iving in Dallas , Texas .

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" The FBI i s not now in teres ted in m y act iv i t ies in the

p r ogress ive organizat ion FPC C of which I was secre t a ry in

P.k.,. O?leaneJ La.. New Orleans , Louis iana s ince I ~ no

longer G O f l : f l e e ~ e d v . ~ t h l ive in that s ta te .

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"l'to'rombor th o Novombar the FB I has vis i led us here

in Texas on Nov. l s t . Agen t of the FBI James P . Hasty

warned me that i f I a t tempt Lo engage in FPCC activi t ies

in Texas the FBI will again take an uinte res tn in me . T he

a ge nt also ••sugges t ed' ' that m y wife could 11 r emain in the

U . S . under FB I pro tection , 11 that i s , she could r o f ~ t : ~ : s e t o

r e t ~ t : ~ : r n to tho d efect f rom the Soviet Union . Of course I

and m y wife s tron gly pro tes ted these tac t ics by th e

nolo r i ous FBI.

11l t wa unfor tun that th o Soviet Embassy v.as '=lftable t o

aid m e in },4.CJcico City bu l:: I had not planned to contact theM exico City Embassy a t a l l so of course th ey were unprepa r ed

for m e . H a d I been ab l e l o reach Havana a s p lanned I could

havo contacted th e S ovie t Embassy there for the cgmplet ion

of v. ould have been ahle t o help m e got th o neces•a.•y

documents I required ass i s t mo would have had t ime to

ass i s t me , but of course the s luip Cuban consule was a t

fault here . I am gl ad he has since been r epl aced by

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R E P I A ~ ~ 1 0 U L DARRIVE ABOUT 9 SEP!Z"IBER · , ; ··" .. . - . ' .... ... ,. .

1963 .um THAT AZCUE WOULD ~ V E MEXICO P E r u W ~ i T I . Y TO RETUB..'f. TO CUBA _!ATE IN. ': .. . .. .. . . ·- .. .. ·-· .. .. .. - :.... ·- .. ... ..

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IN 1--tE:XICO CITY ,.A!ID WHOSE REMA.'tti<S ON TEE R E A C T I O ~ 'tliTRL.'l THZ Dffi.A.SSY AND

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This document is not a CIA document . . It belongs to National Archives

as part of the Warren Commission records, held in National Archives ' s

custody as a f ~ ~ M ~ . f i . l " f o c u m e n t . T < • • • • ~ • • e , - ! ; l l ' osfielrld net eeRsefR H3el f w tlr pabl i c requests f01 ti t is I:IGGiiiiiiQIIt,. btft

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CIA. For this reason i t has been incorporated into OSWALD's 201 file and

should be consulted, as appropriate, when pertinent and parall el information

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d ~ t c d 31 JanuarJ 1964

I would includo in CIJ ! ' lcttr:!' to th("! CIA t!\t! . f o l . ! . o ~ · ~ n ~q\leation3:

1. ·.iC l'C you :.1ble to "..Jncov;:: anythin l!. nbout tht: :J.llca;e:.lm e ~ t 1 r . l 6 bet't;cen Cswald and the Cuban A m l : . ~ < 1 3 5 1 d v ~ \,hl ch ~ asupposed to hnve taken p l ~ c e in an autcmobile o u t s l ~ c t ~ eC u b ~ n ~ ~ b n a o y in Mexico City?

2. De you have a c c e s ~ to the ~ i r e ~ c n by the ~ ~ v i e t!·ic:d can ::Jnbassy to the ~ o v l e t a : : ~ h l n ~ t c n ~ b : l s ~ y I f C ' J .d0, :nn w ~ £1nd ca t i ta c0ntent3?

3. r: . f e: r:::nc-J tJ ~ tc 5 :..:.nd '; c (' · ; c · ~ . - -l c t ~ e . . . . . ·.cult! i t l;c pcso1ble fcl' 'J: J tc .:. -.:c t. hl;! f .l l l :- :pc.J."to f the Ztlexi=::tn p o l l c ~ i n t . • ~ ! " ~ O C : . l tlcn!l of f · ~ . · 1 n J ~ ~ h=-i'

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Conculnr offic1u1 ~ 1 o m Oswald migh t have believed hod beenthe Conaul, transferred or replaced?

12. I f A z q ~ o o ~ nome other C u b ~ n C c n a u l ~ r off1c1alt ~ : a . s ln filot replaced, uc you h"lve :iny inforrL<t ion c:a ho \:.'

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was Manuel Engenio VEGA Perez.

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v i s i t s on 27a ~ d 2 8 ~ ~ ~ ~ e m b e r

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a p p l i c a t i o n ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ r t rans i t .

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BUERGO: I t i s sugges ted t h a t in accordance wi t h what wa sd i scu s sed with Congressman Stokes t h a t th e se s s i on b epro longed u n t i l b p.m. As one more i n d i c a t i o n of t he

Cuban w i l l i n gness to coope r a t e wi th th e wor k o f th e Commit tee ,the Consu l of t he Cuban Embassy in Mexic o w i l l a lso t ak e p a r tin th e ses s io n . Als o p r e s e n t i s Antonio He rnand ez who

acc ompanies Mr . V i l l a .

STOKES: F i r s t I want to r e t u rn t h e s e documents t h a t werehanded over to me t h i s mo rn in g . In th e second p l a c e , we a re

g r a t e f u l to you fo r having brou gh t here the wi t ne ss t h a t wehad r e que s t e d .

BLAKEY : I would l i k e y ou to give your name fo r the r eco rd in g .

AZCUE : Eusebio Azcue.

BLAKEY: How old a re you?

AZCUE: 66 .

BLAKEY : Are you c u r r e n t ly employed by th e government?

AZCUE: I was employed in c o n s t r u c t i o n and now I am r e t i r e d .

BLAKEY: Were you wo r k ing in 1963 ?

AZCU £ : In th e Cuban Embassy in Mex ico .

BLAKEY : In t h i s r e sp ec t, ha d you r ecognized Os wa ld?

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he came t o r e q u e s t a v i s a fo r Cub a .

BLAKEY: We can p resen t to you t h i s document so t h a t y ou w i l l

r ecognize it .

AZCUE : Yej it i s th e d oc ument and it was made

Consu l a t e in Me x ic o C it y.

in the Cuban

BLAKEY: Did h e s i gn the docum en t in y our presence?

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AZCUE: Of c ou r se . I remember him very we l l because whenw ~ w e r e " " b i m p l i c a t e d in th e a c t he r eq u es t ed th e v i s a .

B L ~ Y ' ~ d id he r e que s t t he v i sa?

AZCU : One day be f o r e th e da te o f th e document .

BLAKEY: When d id he go th e second t ime?

•AZCUE: On th e da te o f th e document . He r e que s t e d th e v i s a

and came with a document t h a t acc red i t ed him as be ing in th e

American Communist P a r t y ; he went to th e S ov ie t Union , b u t

wanted th e t r a n s i t v i s a to be in Cuba fo r a week.

BLAKEY: What t ime d id he v i s i t th e Embassy?

AZCUE: He came be tween 10 :00 a .m. and 2 : 00 p.m. We opened

th e Consula te a t 10 :00 a .m. and c lo sed a t 2:00 p.m.

BLAKEY: Did he come with anyone on th efirst

occas ion?

AZCUE: He was a lways a l one .

BLAKEY: Couldn ' t you see if he came wi th someone?

AZCUE: That I don 't know b e c a u s e o f th e l o c a t i o n o f my

o f f i c e . The second t im e he came, he came to br i ng th e photo

and th e document . The photographs had not been brough t th e

first t ime ; he br ough t a document o f h i s wi f e , who was aS ov ie t c i t i z e n ; and he wa s<r e s i de n t in th e S ov ie t Union ,

which I d id not u n d e r s t a n d , bu t I w i l l l a t e r expla in to you.

He asked me how l ong th e v i s a would t a k e . I asked him if

he had f r i en d s in Cuba who would gua r a n t e e him, because int h a t way it c ou ld be speeded up . Wh en t h i s s i t u a t i o n was

s ugge s t e d he began t o ge t u p se t ; he came wi th a book o f

Lenin unde r q is arm and I didn ' t l i k e t h a t ; I unde r s t a nd

t h a t a Communist doesn ' t need a book by Lenin to be a b l e

to exp re ss h is t e n d e n c i e s .

W t h t he v i s a from t he So v i e t Un i on h e c. ,,J d _ be g i v en

th e t r a n s i t v i s a . Tha t t h a t same day o r on th e ne x t day th e

Sov i e t EMbassy c a l l e d me to tell me t h a t th e documents t h a t

he was p r e s e n t i n g ( th e c e r t i f i c a t e o f th e d o c ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 9 f ~ ~ r r i a g ewi th a S ov ie t c i t i z e n ) were r e a l . I asked i f ~ b " ' o u C J . ! ~ : . J ehim th e v i s a and t hey answLed no; t h a t they had to c o n s u l t

wi t h Moscow . I t o ld him t h a t I had to co n su l t Cuba. He

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s a y ing t h a t he had a l r e a d y gone to th e S ov ie t Embassy . He \bel ieve<\ t h a t wi th t h a t I was going to g ive him th e v i s a . I '

t o l d him no , t h a t I needed to c a l l Cuba; t h a t angered him _and he c a l l e d it bur e a uc r a c y ; I go t mad and t o l d him to l e a v e ;

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him th e v i s a . He wanted to go to Cuba, accord ing to what

he s a i d , to see and g e t to know th e Cuban Revolu t ion . Hewanted to be in Cuba two veeks an4 if p o ss ib l e l o n g e r .

name o f my s e c r e t a r y i s S i l v i a Duran , a l t hough she

orced and l o s t her husband ' s l a s t name, bu t i s very

1 known fo r ha v ing had s e r i o u s problems with th e

can a u t h o r i t i e s and was a p r i s o n e r .

ST OKES: Who e l se was p r e s e n t when Oswald v i s i t e d your

embassy th e first t ime?

AZCUE: The s e c r e t a r y , th e c onsu l , M i r a b ~ , whol was t r a n s -

f e r r i n g my e xpe r i e nc e s to to be ab le to l eave him in

my p l a c e .

STOKES: What i s th e name o f the Secre t a ry ?

AZCUE: S i l v i a Duran.

STOKES: Could you tell us the comple te name o f t he c onsu l

who was going to r ep l ace y o u?

AZCUE: I d o n ' t remember th e c omple te name, but I kn o wt h a t h is name i s Miraba l .

STOKES: In any c a s e ,

th e end o f Nove mber .

AZCUE: Here in Cuba.

he was the o ne wh o rep lac e d y o u a t

Wh e re i s he now?

ST OKes: You wer e say ing t h a t th e fir s t time t h a t Os wald

came to your o f f i c e he s howe d you h is d o cum e n ts a n d ~ h e yhad to do with h is membership in th e Co mmunist Par ty ?

AZCUE: Yes, bu t I d i d n ' t ana ly z e them.

STOKES: Were th e s e documents a t s o me t im e a t t ach ed to th e

v i s a r eq u es t s ?

AZCUE: No. That was a form o f i n t r o d u c t i o n .

STOKES:So t h a t t h e r e would be o t h e r d o cuments r e l e va n t t o

the v i s a r eq u es t ?

AZCUE: No, t h a t was th e only one .

STOKES: Would th e re be som e r e c o rd in g o f y o ur c o nv e r s a t i o n

with Oswald?

AZCUE: No . We d i d n ' t use t h i s a t t h a t t ime ; I n e ver u s ed

them. On ly f u l l c onve r s a ton .

STOKES: Can you tell us th e name o f th e So v i e t con s u l wi thwhom you t a lk ed ?

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AZCUE: The consul was a very good f r i e n d o f mine , Pablo Yaskov,

bu t a t t h a t t ime be wasn ' t t h e r e ; in charge o f

r e p l a c i n g him was someone whose name I d o n ' t remember . But

in later c onve r sa t i ons a t th e Embassy with members , p o s s i b l y

with t h i s same cons u l , I was ab le to prove t h a t t h e i r

judgmen t , was what they t hough t - t h a t th e documents o f h iswere c o r r e c t . Both h is and t hos e o f h is wife who r e s i d e d in

th e U. S . I be l i e ve in New York.

STOKES: And on th e second v i s i t to th e embassy , who was

p resen t?

AZCUE: Always the s e c r e t a r y because she was th e one wh or e c e i ve d him.

STOKES: And would th e c o n s u l wh o r e p l a c e d you have beenpr e se n t ?

AZCUE: No, No, I r emember S i l v i a . ~ i r a b a l still w a s n ' t

a t t e n d i n g t o m a t t e r s a t th e c onsu l a t e and in a d d i t i o n , be d id

n o t know Eng l i sh and he wa sn ' t a c t i v e .

STOKES: At some t ime were you in c o n t a c t wi th Mar ina Os wald ?

AZCUE: Who . .. No, No. Never .

STOKES : In th e moments in which Oswald was in your o f f i c e and

you t a lk ed to you remember if be s a i d someth ing to you a bou t

P r e s i d e n t Kennedy?

AZCUE: No , no.p o l i t i c s .

I be l i e ve t h a t t h a t would have been po o r

DODD: Seeing t h a t p h o ~ if you observe it and I r e a l i z e t h a t

we a re going to go back q u i t e a ways . Do you remember if he

wore a s u i t and tie l i k e here? Or a swea te r?

AZCUE: No, no . With a j a c k e t , and I remember th e c o l o r o f

th e j a c k e t , probably someth ing s i m i l a r to t h e s e p a n t s , P r i n c e

o f Gales , j a c k e t and p a n t s . With a tie . In Mexico everyone

wears a tie; th e weath e r i s c oo l .

DODD: At t h a t t i m e , would it be p o ss ib l e to we a r a j a c k e t ?

AZCUE: Yes, I r e member him with a j a c k e t .

DODD: So t h a t he d id no t wear th e c l o t h i n g in t h a t p i c t u r e .

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AZCUE: Yes , o f t h i s very s i z e .

c l e a r , c a r n e t - s i ze pho to .

It was not very p r e c i s e , a

DODD:Does t h i s photo look l i k e th e man who e n t e r e d your

o f f i c e and t a l k e d t o you?becomes

AZCUE: Yes , bu t t ime pass es and o ne an i de a and a f a c e ..

My im pr e s s ion i s t h a t he was t h i n n e r , with a very p r o f i l e d

n o s e , very s t r a i g h t eyebrows , a c o ld l o o k , very p e n e t r a t i n g .

BLAKEY: Could you give us an e s t i m a t e o f h i s h e i g h t ?

AZCUE: (He s t a nds up and s i g n a l s by compar ing with h is ow n h e i g h t )

BLAKEY: How tall a re you?

AZCUE: S ix f e e t one and a h a l f i nc he s .

if he was one metr e 70 or 65 . A s h o r t

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man . Thin .

BLAKEY: How much would he have weighed?

AZCUE: I don ' t know, bu t h is nose was very f i n e , very nar row

s h o u l d e r s , very t h i n .

DODD: H is approximate age?

AZCUE: Abont 35, worn o u t , a worn o u t man. Not a p re t t y f a c ~ ,an e x h a u sfe d f a c e . Some t h i n g 1 i k e a ga ng s t e r , hard .

DODD: Was it a common e xpe r i e nc e fo r an AMerican to go to

th e Embassy t o r eq u e s t a v i sa?

AZCUE: Yes , many came.

DODD:Who wanted to go to th e S o v i e t Union?

AZCUA: No, no. To visit Cuba.

s t r a nge

DODD: But t h i s was a r a t h e r / c a s e ?

AZCUE: Yes, s t r a nge .

DODD:Did you make a s p e c i a l note o n th e s t r a nge ne ss o f t h i s

o c c a s ion?

AZCUE : No, becau se we r e f u sed him th e v i sa . I woul d have made

a n o t a t i o n if I had g iven him th e v i s a to e xp la in th e r e a so ns

why I was g iv ing it to him.

DODD: So t h a t t h e r e was no r eason fo r you to make a s p e c i a l

n o t a t i o n ?

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to abound because wi th c o n t a c t s in Cuba we couldn ' t g r a n t agol.ng

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DODD: Did he l eave an a dd r e s s so t h a t you could in form him if

a t ym e t ime th e v i s a were t o a r r i v e ?

AZCUE: No . He would have left it if he had l e f t on f r i e n d l y

t e r ms , b u t not- howh e l e f t , t h a t i s , I k i c k e d h i m o u t .

DODD: Was t h e r e some pr oc e ss wi th r e s p e c t to th e v i sa r e q u e s t ,

so t h a t th e pr oc e s s t h a t you c o n s u l t , in some moment you wouldr e c e i v e a n o t i f i c a t i o n ?

AZCUE: We would t r a n s m i t it to Cuba; t hen th e i n t e r e s t e d p a r t y

would c a l l and f ind ou t if th e v i sa was coming. We would

c o n s t a n t l y r e c e i ve c a l l s from t hose s e e k ing them; t hey a re th e

ones who were i n t e r e s t e d .

DODD: But he never c a l l e d ? In all b u r e a u c r a t i c pr oc e sse s when

a pr oc e ss o f t h i s t ype i s begun it is supposed t h a t you

w i l l r e c e i v e c a l l s o r not?

AZCUA:. Yes . Our government r e c e i ve d t h i s r e que s t and ne ve r

answered it because it had no r eason to .

DODD: What do you mean t h a t t he y ne ve r answered?

AZCUE: Tha t th e Cuban government ne ve r answered .

. p h y s i c a lDODD: Return1ng t o t he / a ppe a r a nc e o f Oswald. Bes ides th e

e n t r i e s h e r e , d id he have gray h a i r s ?

AZCUE: He was b lond . T h i s photo i s c u r i o u s . I didn ' t fill

out the form myse l f because t h e s e c r e t a r y d id so . She f i l l e dall of t h i s o u t , g () t th e s i g n a t u r e and then we s e n t it

to Cuba.

DODD: But do you remember t h a t t h i s pho to co r responds to th e man

t h a t you saw?

AZCUE: I remember him a s t h i n n e r b u t it i s p o s s i b l e .... pho tos

a re ne ve r . ... I remember him as a very t h i n man and a very hard

e x p r e s s i o n .

fPREYER: A few que s t i ons t o c l a r i f y t h i n g s fo r me. The first

t ime t h a t he went to your Embassy he r e que s t e d a t r a n s i t v i s a

o r was it a v i s a fo r Cuba?

AZCUE: A v i s a fo r Cuba . A v i s a fo r 2 weeks or 15 days . Normal lyth e pe op le a re n o t aware o f th e p r oc e ss f o r a t r a n s i t v i s a .

BREYER: But it was e v i d e n t t h a t it was to cont inue to th e

S o v i e t Union.

AZCUE: Yes .

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I heard him ask how long it would t ake to r e c e i v e th e

v i s a . And you asked him if he knew someone in Cuba

s i n ce it would be f a s t e r ?

AZCUE: Yes .

PREYER: Did you give him some da t e on h o w long it wou ldt ak e if he knew someone in Cuba?

AZCUE: No. I couldn ' t o b l i g a t e myse l f .it vas f a s t e r .

I t o ld him t h a t

PREYER: Then, he left and goes to th e S ov ie t Embassy.

Thr ee o r four b l oc ks . So t h a t i s i s poss i b l e t h a t he had

walked?

AZCUE: Yes, of c ou r se .

PREYER: Shor t l y a f t e r t h a t you go t th e c a l l in the embassy .

AZCUE: No. No . I t i s p ~ s s i b l e t h a t t he in te rv iew v i t ~ t h eSov i e t consu l took a whi l e . What i s mo r e , I be l i e ve t h a t he

v e n t to th e S ov ie t embassy th e same day; it i s p o s s i b l e th e

nex t day or the same day , bu t he ve n t t h e next day wh e n he

c a l l e d me, bu t t h a t was th e nex t day , I b e l i e v e .

PREYER: And th e So v i e t embassy t o ld you t ha t t hey had to

c o n s u l t Mosc ow. That they couldn ' t give a vi sa . Or d id you

tell it to Oswald?

AZCUE: And wh en he v e n t I t o ld him t h a t if the S ov ie t Union

had to con s u l t Moscow I had to co n su l t Havana.

PREYER: Did he ask wha t y o u cou ld fea r?

AZCUE: Yes, t hey a l l a sk , and th e answer i s a lways th e same;it depends on th e f r i e n d s t h a t you have in Cuba who can

a c c e l e r a t e the p r o c e s s .

P r e ye r : At ~ m e moment d id you ask th e S ov ie t Embassy a b o u t

th e t ime t h a t th e process would t ake?

AZCUE: No . That i s t h e i r b u s in es s .

PREYER: I ask you b ecause if it vas a r e l a t i v e l y s h o r tp e r io d o f t ime , it cou ld be t h a t he would wai t the re f to r th e

v i s a .

AZCUE: No. B e s ide s , I see in him th e d e l i b e r a t e pu r pose o f

g e t t i n g th e v i s a from us . He was i n t e r e s t ed in th e v i s a from

u s .

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_ DODD: You d i d n ' t make any copy fo r him o f th e documents t h a t

he pr e se n t e d a s a member o f th e Communist Par ty o f th e U.S.

AZCUE: No. Those documents a re only to show; I c o u l d n ' t

t a k e them away from him. F a c t s a re t aken such as I took

fromth e p as sp o r t .

?BLAKEY: Did you examine th e p as sp o r t - Would you look a t

th e photo in t h e p as sp o r t ?

AZCUE: One always does look bu t what i s o f i n t e r e s t i sth e number.

BLAKEY: Did you n o t i ce t h a t th e person t h a t you saw b e f o r e

was d i f f e r e n t from th e one who was t h e re?

AZCUE: What I noted was th e d i f f e r e n c e between the per son

who went to th e co n su la t e and th e one t h a t k i l l e d Ruby.

They seemed to be d i f f e r e n t pe r sons .

BLAKEY: When you saw th e p a s s p o r t d id you see some d i f f e r e n c e ?

AZCUE:I am not u s u a l l y so a n a l y t i c a l . Besides th e s e c r e t a r y

does t h a t . The d i f f e r e n c e t h a t I noted was between the onewho came to th e co n su la t e and th e man they k i l l e d .

BLAKEY: Mr. Azcue , let me show you th e book o f pho tO:s which i s

an e x h i b i t i o n o f p h o t o ~ . This book c on t a i n s a comple te s e r i e s

o f photo s iha t we would l i k e to have you look a t c a r e f u l l y ,

p age by page . Study th e f aces and tell us if you can r e c ogn iz e

some o f th e pe r s o ns who a re t h e r e . Take your t ime and d o n ' t

look fo r anyone in p a r t i c u l a r ; on ly tell us if y o u r e c ogn i z e

someone .

BUERGO : We can t ak e a r e c e s s whi le col Azcue goes over th e

photo ........s .

BLAKEY: Af t e r 15 m inu te , Mr. Azcue has examined th e pho to

th e

AZCUE: Frank ly , th e i de a t h a t I have of /Oswald t h a t went

to th e ~ s u l a t e does not resemble th e photograph o f th e

dead Oswald. The memory t h a t I have o f Oswald looks l i k e

th e one o f t he pho to . I remember t h a t h is nose was very

f i n e and h is cheekbonese m a c i a ~ d .

This man i n the pho toha s a maximum age o f 30, bu t I remember t h a t th e one who went

to th e c onsu l a t e was some 35 ye a r s o ld . The dead Oswald

I do not recognize as th e Oswald who went to my o f f i c e .

When I saw him in a photo on TV he didn ' t resemble a t all th e

Oswald t h a t went to th e co n su la t e .

I d id n o t r e l a y t h i s . Tha t was something t h a t I d id no t

c a p t u r e when I saw th e pho tos o f when they were k i l l i n gOswald , I canno t gua r a n t e e it b u t it didn ' t look l i k e him.

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c o n s u l a t e , would you re cognize i t ?

AZCUE: I t h i nk so , t h a t I would recognize it , bu t when I saw

t h a t he was mad, it was not th e same impress ion of th e face o f

th e man who they were k i l l i n g . And I r emember t h a t th e New

Or leans a t t o r n e y Jim G a ~ i n s e n sa id t h a t t h e re were two

Oswalds , and t h a t made me t h in k aga in t h a t th e dead man wasno t th e same one wh o had gone to th e o f f i c e .

BLAKEY: P r e s i d e n t Cas t ro gave a speech a f t e r th e a s s a s s i n a t i o n

and sa id t h a t he had had a c o n t a c t wi th th e Cuban Embassy in

Mexico

CONSUL: I remember t h a t I made some s t a t ement s

th e same a s th e ones i am making no w. I t a l k e d abou t t h i swi th th e M i n i s t r y o f Fore ign R e l a t i o n s .

BLAKEY: Did you in form any one e l s e abou t t h i s m a t t e r ?

AZCUE: I had come from Mexico to Havana , I came November 1 8and on th e 22 was th e dea th o f Kennedy and immed ia t e ly I

remembered th e visit o f Oswald to th e c onsu l a t e . They took

a s t a t e m e n t from me and I s a i d e x a c t l y what I have s a i d now.

BLAKEY: Was n o te t aken o f t h a t i n t e r v i e w?

VILLA: It i s p o s s i b l e t h a t it e x i s t s bu t we do no t have

t h a t r e p o r t .

AZCUE: The r e p re s e n t a t i v e o f th e M i n i s t r y o f th e I n t e r i o r

was th e one who he ld th e i n t e r v i e w , Co mmander P i n e i r o .

(Manuel P i n i e r o ) .

BLAKEY: Allow me to r ead a p a r t t h a t a ppe a r s in a bookpubl i shed in th e U . S . :

"A n i n t e rv i ew in Ju ly l9 c 7 with B r i t i s h newsman Comer

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Cast r o s a i d t h a t Oswald had gone tw ic e to th e Cuban

c o n s u l a t e . On both oc c a s i ons he sa id t h a t he wanted to work

fo r us . On th e second oc c a s ion he sa id t h a t he wa n t e d to f r e e

Cuba from I m pe r i a l i s m . Then he sa id t h a t someone shou ld

kill P r e s i d e n t Kennedy and Os wald sa id t h a t he would be

in charge o f t h a t . "

AZCUE: Not e v e ~ o u r Commander in Chief cou ld say t h a t , n o r

c ou ld t h a t person e x i s t . They can only see me.

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The newsman s u g g e s ~ t h a t th e w o ~ s a t t r i b u t e d to Oswald

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I would remember t h a t w el l , b u t t h a t i s o f i n t e r e s tI woul d have noted it, s in ce h ~ a n t e d to work fo r

I would have s e n t t h a t to Cuba.

BLAKEY: Do you speak Russian?

speak Russ ian a t t h a t t im e r

Did someone in the c o n s u l a t e

CONSUL: Probably today many Cubans speak Russ ian , buVat t h a t

t ime inb,3 . , nobody .

BLAKEY: Could you g ive us th e r oute t h a t Oswald would t a k e

to e n t e r your o f f i c e ?

AZCUE: If you want I ' ll make a drawing (he prepares it andex p la in s it.)

BLAKEY: Would he make some c a l l from th e consu la te?

AZCUE: I t could bet h a t t h e S e c r e t a r y a u t ho r i z e d some

c a l lb u t I saw he r two ye a r s l a t e r and she d i d n ' t mention an y th in g .

She was a very good f r i e n d o f mine , and he r husband t o o .

She t o l d me o f h er a dve n t u r e s with th e Mexican government .

She remembered ex ac t l y as I d i d . Exac t ly . Af te r no more t han

two ye a r s we remembered p e r f e c t l y . The Mexican a u t h o r i t i e swanted t o i m p l i c a t e · h e r as a Mexican; she d id no t have

dip lomat ic p r o t e c t i o n ; t hey wanted to imp l i ca t e her and she

defended h e r s e l f , she b i t and k ic ke d and was a pub l i c t h i n g

in th e newspaper. They t r i e d to coerce h e r .

BLAKEY: There a re no co n v ersa t io n s o f you wi t h her a bou t

your memories o f th e pe r s on t h a t you had seen o n TV

and th e one t h a t had been t h e r e .

AZCUE: I don ' t re m ember t h a t d e t a i l . More than anyth ing th e

c onve r sa t i on revolved around th e problems o f her s wi th th e

Mexican a u t h o r i t i es .

CORNEWLL: A ll o f th e v i s i t s o f t h i s ma n we r e c a r r i e d ou t d u r in g

th e work hours o f th e c o n s u l a t e from 1 0 :0 0 a . m. to 2 :00 porn.

AZCUE: Without e xc e p t i ons . Some t e l ephone c a l l i s a l s o po s s i b l e .

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be on Satu rday and SUnday?

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AZCUE : No. Saturday y es , b u t Sunday , no.

CORNWELL: Trying to be c a r e f u l wi th th e da t e s as much as p o s s i b l \Keeping in mind t he p rocedures t h a t a re fo l lowed a t an embassy ,would it have been normal fo r th e s e c r e t a r y to fill ou t th e

v i s a r e q u e s t , even when he d id no t hav e a photo? -

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documents t h a t they must p r e s e n t .

~ V R N W E L L : I f you don ' t have t h o s e documents you do n ot

beg in th e t y p i n g p ro c e s s ?

AZCUE: No. For what?

CORNWELL: To what p o i n t do you rem embe r the occas ion onwhich you argued wi th t h a t man where you t o ld him to l e a v e ,

to g e t o u t fAZCUE:The nex t day f i l l i n g o u t th e v i s a .

CORNWELL: Whenwas i t ?

AZCUE: Po s s i b l y t h e day a f t e r c a l l i n g fo r th e v i s a o r tw o days

later. Because he goes to th e So v i e t Embassy and then

r e t u r n s to th e Cuban Embassy . On th e 27th he f i l l e d o u t th er e q u e s t . On th e 28 th he goes to th e S o v i e t Embassy, on th e

2 9 t h probab ly r e t u r n ed aga in and th e 1 8 th the Sov ie t Embassy

c a l l e d me; th e most p r o b a b l e 1 ' ' i ~ t h a t it \-vaS · l i k e t h a t ,

t h a t is, t h a t would be th e l o g i c a l and reasonab le p ro ces s .

CORNWELL: The Cuban government y e s t e r d a y p r ~ n t e d us w i t h

t h i s doc urn en t . It i s a 1 e t t e r d a t e d 0 c t obe r l 5 , l 96 3 . I t i s

page 1 2 o f th e documents .

AZCUE; I do n ot remember t h i s letter. Well , t h i s i s a r o u t i n e

letter t h a t MINREX sends wi th re g a rd to · v i s a a p p l i c a t i o n s .

(He r e a d s th e l e t t e r )

CORNWELL: Wer e you still in Mexico on t h a t da te?

AZCUE: Yes , o f c o u r s e . Thi s was Comrade Miraba l , th e name

o f th e Consul who had r ep l aced me .

CORNWELL: Do you know if th e letter was addressed to M i ra b a l ?

AZCUE: It i s p o s s ib l e because he wa s o n th e job .

CORNWELL: But you w e r e f t t i l l t h e r e when th e letter was r e c e i v e d ?

AZCUE: Yes, bu t t h a t i s l o g i c a l ; I d on't need th e letter. Ihad a u t h o r i z a t i o n to g i v e a t r a n s i t v i s a wi t h o u t n e c e s s i t y

o f t h i s letter, knowing t h a t th e So v i e t Embassy had g i v e n th e

v i s a . Thi s i s a n o t i f i c a t i o n . Thi s does not have a n r m p l i c a t i \

CORNWELL: If you had had an a d d re s s s fo r Os wald on O c t o b e r 1 5 ,

would you have go t t en in touch wi th him?

AZCUE: No because I am aw a i t i n g th e S o v i e t v i sa .)

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CORNWELL: I f you w i l l aga in loo k a t th e visa a p p l i c a t i o n

see ing th e photo t h a t i s t h e re . How o ld would you gue s s

t h a t t h a t man in th e photo i s ?

AZCUE: 28 or 30. But th e one I remember would be more

than 35 . It i s something t h a t I seem to remember w e l l .I d id not see t h a t photo a f t e r t h a t t ime ; t h i s i s th e

f i r s t t ime t h a t I have seen it a f t e r so many y e a r s andth e memory t h a t I had o f th e one who went to th e ~ s u l a t ei s d i f f e r e n t from t h a t f a c e .

CORNWELL: T b ~ you. I have no more q u es t io n s .

STOKES: Could you give us an i dea o f ho w long Os walds tayed in your o f f i c e th e first t ime?

AZCUE:It i s a sher i t im e . Poss i b l y if t h e re was nobody

10 o r 15 minu tes a l t o g e t h e r because he i s in formed to

br i ng h i s p a s s p o r t , pho to , how long it t ak es , e t c . Thatexchange o f i n f o r m a t i on .

STOKES: So t h a t it woul d t ake 5 to 1 0 minu tes .

AZCUE: On th e second occas ion he was t h e re lo n g e r .

AZCUE : Yes because he has to w a i t , fill ou t th e form,pu t h i s s{gna t u r e , e t c .

STOKES: So how l ong do you t h in k he was t h e re th e s econdt ime?

AZCUE: 15 minu tes maybe o r more; it,,

th e s ec re t a ry .

STOKES : Within your o f f i c e how much t ime would have pa s s e d?

AZCUE: It was a l s o f a s t because with h is r e f e r e n c e to th e

Sovie t Embassy he b e l i ev ed t h a t every th ing would be t aken

ca re o f and I expla ined to him t h a t if th e Sov i e t Embassy

has to co n su l t Moscow I have to co n su l t Havana; it i s b e t t e r

he wai t u n t i l th e Sov i e t v i s a a r r i v e s . Then1 angry be says

to me t h a t t h a t i s bureau cracy , and then I ~ i c k h i ~ ou t .

STOKES: In t o t a l , ho w much t ime would t h a t argument betweenyou have t aken?

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s i b l y with th e s e c r e t a ry u n t i l c a l l i n g me)5 m i nu t e J and with \me no more t han 5 minu tes . what I had t o exp la in to him was

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STOKES: With r e spe c t to th e v i s a ap p l i ca t i o n , it i ssupposed t h a t it i s s igne d by Oswald; t he r e i s a s i g n a t u r e

a t t h e bottom o f th e a p p l i c a t i o n . Whose s i gna t u r e i s t h a t ?

AZCUE: P os s ib ly t h i s s i g n a t u r e i s from here from Havana.Because t h i s one i s o u r s . The s i g n a t u r e i s t h i s one .

The s ig n a tu re i s i l l e g i b l e .

STOKES: We t hough t t h a t you might remember t h a t s i g n a t u r e .

AZCUE: You can see t h e re S. Duran and ano ther l a s t name ... ?

I b e l i ev e t h a t t h a t s i g n a t u re i s from Cuba, it i s i l l e g i b l e

b u t it is n ' t mine; I s ign wi th my l a s t name.

STOKES: On t h i s a p p l i c a t i o n t h e re i s a se c t i on t h a t says

o b se rv a t io n s . Could you r ead t h i s sec t io n so t h a t I can

ask a no the r que s t i on?

AZCUE: They a re th e documents t h a t he pr e se n t s to us : "Ther e que s t e r says he i s a member of t he American Communist P a r t y

and s e c r e t a r y in New Or l ean s o f th e Fa i r Play fo r Cuba and

t h a t be l i v ed in th e Sov i e t Union from October 1959 to

June 19 J 196 2 . Tha t t h e re he mar r ied a Sov ie t c i t i z e n -

he showed a document t h a t shows he i s a member o f th e two

mentioned o r g a n i z a t i o n s , th e Communist Par ty and F a i r Play

and th e marr i age ceremony. He appeared a t the S ov ie t

Embassy o f t h i s c i t y , ask ing t h a t h is v i s a be s e n t to ~th e Cuban Embassy . " This i s c u r i o u s , he th,nl:s_ s t h a t

we a re go ing to give him th e v i s a because he a S ~ $ t h a t git be s e n t to Cuba . We c a l l e d th e Consula te of the S ov i e t

Union and l a t e r they c a l l ed u s . I r e c e ive d t he c o m m u n i ~ ~ ~ 8from th e S ov ie t Consu ! a t e ; un l e s s th e s e c r e t a r y c a l l e d th e ~Embassy, and then th e Embassy c a l l e d me (He c on t i nue s r e a d i n g ) ' '

and they answered us t h a t t he y had to wai t fo r th e a u t h o r i z a ~ ofrom Moscow fo r th e v i s a and t h a t it would t ake abou t 4months . " I r emembered t h a t t he y had to c onsu l t Mosc ow

but no t th e t ime . ~STOKES : With r e s p e c t t o t h i s a p p l i c a t i o n , when th e s e c r e t a ry

wrote it, who d i c t a t e d it to her?

AZCUE: The s e c r e t a r y in h is p r esence .

a re made l a t e r .

STOKES: Who does i t ?

These o b s e r v a t i o n s

AZCUE: Perhaps the s e c r e t a r y because they are th e docum ent s

t h a t he p r e s e n t s and it has no o t h e r o b jec t iv e t ha n to

enumera te . th e documents t h a t he shows ·if t hey can be o f

some use to him .

STOKES: So t h a t none o f t h e i n f o r m a t ion on t h a t a p p l i c a t i o nwas t a ke n by you .

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AZCUE: No. That i s not my j o b ; it i s t h a t s e c r e t a r y ' s .It i s a r o u t i n e m a t t e r and doesn ' t have so much impor tance

fo r th e Consul to t ake ca re o f it .

STOKES: Besides S i l v i a Duran , were t h e re o th e r s e c r e t a r i e sin you o f f i c e and Miraba l ' s?

AZCUe: No, no o t h e r .

STOKES:Doesn ' t th e r eq u es t a l so i n d i c a t e t h a t Oswald wanted

to t r a v e l to Cuba on Sep t . 30?

AZCUE: (Reads) "Proposed d a te o f a r r i v a l lr'l Cuba, Sep t . 3 0 . "

STOKES: Afte r the a s s a s s i n a t i o n o f P r e s i d e n t Kennedy th e

name o f Lee Harvey Oswald became very impor tan t and a s ar e s u l t o f t h i s a t t r a c t e d th e a t t e n t i o n o f your Government to

all o f t h ese f a c t s and it must have been very im por t a n t toyour Government .

AZC UE: F i r s t I went to th e M i n i s t r y o f Fore ign Re l a t i ons

and t a l k e d with Ni lo and Roa . The n t he y c a l l e d th e M i n i s t r y

o f th e I n t e r i o r ; t he y saw th e impor t ance t h a t my s t a t e m e n t s

had .

STOKES: Were t h e r e s t e nog r a phe r s who took notes?

AZCUE: No. My i n t e rv i ew was pe r s ona l wi th Com. P i n e i r o .

STOKES: H a v e / ~ m e m b e r e d if t h e r e may have been a s t en ographe rp resen t?

AZCUE: No, what I am ex p la in in g i s t h a t given th e i m por t a nc e ,Commander Pin e i ro asked me someth ing l i k e 80 q u e s ~ o n s , many

more t han you a re . doing .

S T O K ~ : Did you s i gn some re c o rd o f s t a t e m e n t?

AZCUE: No . No . That was a background s t a t e m e n t . We had c o f f e e

someth ing l i k e t h r ee t im e s .

STOKES: I would l i k e our i n t e r e s t in t a l k i n g with Mr. P i n e i ro

to be t aken i n to accoun t .

DODD: There i s a b lue s tamp t h a t has a da te a t th e b o t t o m

o f th e a p p l i c a t i o n .

AZCUE: It i s very p o s s i b l e t h a t it i s our s because S e p t .

27 t o 0 c t . l 0 a r e 1 3 days , my Co n s u 1 a t e .1 nd T l Jso t h a t t h i s a p p l i i c a t i o n had to l e a ve in th e nex t ~on our plane o f Cubana t h a t ne ve r was more than 3 o r 4 days

o r in o t h e r words I b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s was th e r e c e i p t s tamp

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AZCUE: In Cuba. I had a l read y w r i t t e n down the da t e andit seems s t r a nge t o me. The v a l i s e was be ing picked up and

s e n t to Cuba.

BLAKEY: I have no th ing more to ask ,

AZCUE: Alf red o Miraba l o r I c o u l d have s igned it . But it

w a s n ' t n e c e s s a r y because it was th e stamp o f th e C o n s u l a t e .

BLAKEY: You i n d i c a t e d p r e v i o u s l y t h a t you a l so l e a r n e d a t

one t ime o f th e i n v e s t i g a t i o n s on th e p a r t o f Mr . Ga r r in s on

and t h a t a t t h a t t ime you remembered t h a t th e person c ou l d

n o t have been th e same one . Did you t a l k to someone a t t h a t

t ime ' l

AZCUE: Yes, of c ou r se . I t a l k ed to N i l ~ who was th e Di r e c t o r

o f th e Minis t ry o f th e o f f i c e o f th e M i n i s t e r o f Fore ign

R e l a t i o n s , and wi th Lechuga . He ' s ca l l ed Nilo Otero .

BLAKEY: Did he g e t in touch?

AZCUE: He was go ing to . F i d e l Cas t ro exposed to th e wo rld

t h e s e s i t u a t i o n s t h a t had appeared . F i d e l sa i d a l l o f t h i s

in h is speech . We no l onge r had anyth ing to t a l k a bou t .

BLAKEY : At t h i s t ime no th ing more occur s t o me to ask .

Allow me if o t h e r t hough t s o c c u r to ask you a que s t i on t h r ough

your Government .

STOKES: You r e po r t e d t h a t you t a l ke d with Commander P i n e i r o

and wi th vbo e l s e?

AZCUE: O ff i c i a l l y wi t h th e o f f i c e o f Foreign Re l a t i ons and

wi t h Commande r P i n e i r o . Then I was ab le to repea t the t e x t u a l

v o r t h a t I had spoken . And now I remember p e r f e c t l y .

STOKES : You have s a i d t h e s e t h i n g s in p r iv a t e ' l

AZ CUE: Yes, with companions , ab ove all t h a t they wanted to

blame u s .

BLAKEY: Did you have oc c a s ion to see th e r e p o r t t h a t was done?

AZCUE: I had an i n t e rv i ew and I sa i d th e same t h i ng t h a t I have

s a i d here .

BLAKEY: Allow me to c a l l your a t t e n t i o n to photo 60 o f th ea l b u ~ That f ace i s n o t f a m i l i a r to you ,

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our a p p r e c i a t i on fo r hav ing come to t a lk to us and to

submi t to our i n t e r ro g a t io n .

BUERGO: We too would l i k e to thank you fo r your p a r t i c i p a t i o nand we hope t h a t you can be s a t i s f i e d wi th th e answer s by

Mr. Azcue .

T ran s l a t ed by Deanna Hammo nd

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