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Nebraska ProjectsAddressing the Top Ten RAP Issues
Robert C. Rea, P.EAssistant Materials and Research Engineer
Nebraska Department of RoadsFebruary 22, 2012
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
• True• Must manage equally as any different aggregate• Its affects to the mix properties are critical as it is 40 – 50 %
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
• True• Must manage equally as any different aggregate• Its affects to the mix properties are critical as it is 40 – 50 %• Stockpile and manage different RAP in different piles
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
• True• Must manage equally as any different aggregate• Its affects to the mix properties are critical as it is 40 – 50 %• Stockpile and manage different RAP in different piles• Gradations and Binder contents need to be tested
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
• True• Must manage equally as any different aggregate• Its affects to the mix properties are critical as it is 40 – 50 %• Stockpile and manage different RAP in different piles• Gradations and Binder contents need to be tested• Plant and Loader personnel are key to the Management of
the materials
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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10. Too much hassle, one more thing to manage and design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP
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9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP
• Target 3% Air Voids at 7-65-100 Gyrations• VMA is an issue when using ignition oven Gsb
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9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP
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9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP
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9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP
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9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP
Virgin
RAP Ignition Oven
Burn off asphalt
RAP Agg.
Virgin Agg.
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
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8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
• Some Agencies wanted to do this
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8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
• Some Agencies wanted to do this• Test the final Product and make the QC/QA do the work• Many plants meter the dust and even drop some if needed
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8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
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8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
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8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
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8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
Thursday, April 19, 2012
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7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum
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7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum
• Use Newest Dust/Binder Recommendations of 0.6 to 1.6, used to be 0.6 to 1.2
• Another increase with the use of 1% Lime
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7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt
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7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt
d/a 0.6 to 1.6, increased to 0.7 to 1.7 with 1% Lime
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used
• Used to Require this• Costs about $ 50 more per liquid ton• Again puts a restriction when perfectly good mix can use
more RAP
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6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used
• Used to Require this• Costs about $ 50 more per liquid ton• Again puts a restriction when perfectly good mix can use
more RAP• This is always covered when using PG XX-34 Grades
across the board
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it
• YES, RAP IS WORTH A LOT !• Some wanted way too much, and priced out its use
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5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it
• YES, RAP IS WORTH A LOT !• Some wanted way too much, and priced out its use• Don’t forget, hauling, stockpiling, handling etc.
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5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it
• YES, RAP IS WORTH A LOT !• Some wanted way too much, and priced out its use• Don’t forget, hauling, stockpiling, handling etc.• It’s full potential is realized when made available ;
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5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it
• YES, RAP IS WORTH A LOT !• Some wanted way too much, and priced out its use• Don’t forget, hauling, stockpiling, handling etc.• It’s full potential is realized when made available ;• From the project
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5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it
• YES, RAP IS WORTH A LOT !• Some wanted way too much, and priced out its use• Don’t forget, hauling, stockpiling, handling etc.• It’s full potential is realized when made available ;• From the project• Stockpiles stated in the Special Provisions• The unit prices are typically 20 to 25% lower
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
• Generate it from the project whenever possible• Milling provides not only the valuable RAP ;• It is on site, minimal haul
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
• Generate it from the project whenever possible• Milling provides not only the valuable RAP ;• It is on site, minimal haul• It can be tested and properties evaluated prior too
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
• Generate it from the project whenever possible• Milling provides not only the valuable RAP ;• It is on site, minimal haul• It can be tested and properties evaluated prior too• Provides better texture for overlay to bond
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
• Generate it from the project whenever possible• Milling provides not only the valuable RAP ;• It is on site, minimal haul• It can be tested and properties evaluated prior too• Provides better texture for overlay to bond• Removes surface irregularities• Can correct the profile
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
• Removes unwanted hot pour from surface• Provides fresh pulverized millings• Generally makes millings more uniform
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
• Removes unwanted hot pour from surface• Provides fresh pulverized millings• Generally makes millings more uniform• Reduces grade raise, for any guardrail, curb and gutter,
matching into structures, elevation issues etc.
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
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4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’
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ROAD MINING !
Existing Original Base Pavement
Existing Asphalt
Subgrade
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ROAD MINING !
Existing Original Base Pavement
Subgrade
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ROAD MINING !
Existing Original Base Pavement
Subgrade
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ROAD MINING !
Existing Original Base Pavement
Subgrade
Every inch of millings of existing pavement, 24 foot wide, contains
$30,000 to $40,000 of Oil and Aggregate
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
• Need RAP feed system/collar• Grizzly and screening deck• Baghouse and plant need to be checked and see its
capabilities
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
• Need RAP feed system/collar• Grizzly and screening deck• Baghouse and plant need to be checked and see its
capabilities• Something new to some, unknowns
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
• Need RAP feed system/collar• Grizzly and screening deck• Baghouse and plant need to be checked and see its
capabilities• Something new to some, unknowns • Something different• All of our plants typically run between 40 & 50%
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer
• Low temperature binder grades, such as XX-34• Soft base to rejuvenate the aged and oxidized binders• Use Polymer modified as much as you can, polymer loading
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2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer
• Low temperature binder grades, such as XX-34• Soft base to rejuvenate the aged and oxidized binders• Use Polymer modified as much as you can, polymer loading• Much better compaction, not beating the heck out of the mat
and not fracturing aggregate• More dense
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2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer
• No interconnected voids• Better Joint Density and Compaction• More resistant to water damage and aging due to such a
dense matrix
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2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer
• No interconnected voids• Better Joint Density and Compaction• More resistant to water damage and aging due to such a
dense matrix• Compaction at laydown is much better, even with the
polymer modified• SPR is the industries favorite mix to lay
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VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25% 2.50%
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90%
10%Conventional (PG 64-‐28)
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25% 2.50%
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90%
10%Conventional (PG 64-‐28)
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%
50%
50%
High Recycle Conventional (PG 64-‐28)
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25% 2.50%
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90%
10%Conventional (PG 64-‐28)
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%
50%
50%
High Recycle Conventional (PG 64-‐28)
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%
50%
High Recycle Polymer Loading (PG 64-‐34)
VirginRAP
Polymer
2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25%1.25%2.25% 2.50%
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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TOP TEN REASONS RAP IS NOT OPTIMIZED
1. Owner/Specifier limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
2. Stigma of lesser quality, need to Engineer 3. Plant says ‘Can’t Run it’4. Design not optimizing mill and fill strategies or ‘Road Mining’5. RAP not made available or charges too much for it6. Required binder bumps/reductions when higher amounts are used7. Restrictive in the specification, i.e. dust/asphalt maximum8. Limits RAP #200 amounts and rejects the RAP9. Restrictive Voids and VMA and other properties that limit RAP10. Too much hassle, one more thing to Manage and Design for
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1. Owner/Specifyer limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
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1. Owner/Specifyer limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
Whether it is made from…….
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1. Owner/Specifyer limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
New Aluminum
Whether it is made from…….
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1. Owner/Specifyer limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
New Aluminum Recycled Aluminum
Whether it is made from…….
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1. Owner/Specifyer limits use of RAP or says ‘I want the new stuff, not the used stuff ’
New Aluminum Recycled Aluminum
You can’t taste the difference
Whether it is made from…….
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Thank You!
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