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9th July 2012, 21:41
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MSNBC: 'Rags To Riches' A Hollywood Myth
Even capitalists can't help exploding their own myths:
http://economywatch.msnbc.msn.com/_n...udyfinds?lite
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9th July 2012, 21:45
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9th July 2012, 22:14
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And in other news, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
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9th July 2012, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Gman And in other news, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
Hey, not everyone knows that the 'rags to riches' belief is a myth. So try not to act so blaseabout it, 'kay?
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9th July 2012, 23:43
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This myth perpetuates much of western society, so I'll have to agree with BoD. This is not anissue to be taking lightly.
But one can hardly blame Hollywood. Filmmakers almost always want a happy ending, so wewon't be seeing films about someone who risks everything, and ends up in the gutter (unlesshe's/she's a baddie)
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9th July 2012, 23:51
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Actually, Gman has a point. I don't think a single user on revleft, except for maybe a few inOI believe in the rags to riches myth. What's interesting, though, is how the article talks aboutan empirical study confirming what many here already believed. However, I would argue thatthere are probably numerous studies already which suggest the same thing.__________________AKA El Vagoneta[FONT=Courier New] This is a website to help you quit smoking[/FONT]http://rananets.blogspot.com/ <Radical News Aggregator beta
10th July 2012, 00:02
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So we must only discuss topics and viewpoints which the demographic of RevLeft agrees with?Cool story, bro.
10th July 2012, 00:10
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Originally Posted by Oyggjaframi So we must only discuss topics and viewpoints which the demographic of RevLeftagrees with?Cool story, bro.
Yeah, that's totally what I was arguing.__________________AKA El Vagoneta[FONT=Courier New] This is a website to help you quit smoking[/FONT]http://rananets.blogspot.com/ <Radical News Aggregator beta
10th July 2012, 00:15
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What's your point of being Captain Obvious, then?
10th July 2012, 00:21
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Originally Posted by Oyggjaframi What's your point of being Captain Obvious, then?
I don't even know what you're trying to say here. Are you asking me what the point of mycomment was?
I guess if that's the case, I was saying that Gman has a point in expressing that this is notreally news to anyone here on revleft. However, there is value in the study as it empiricallyconfirms what many people here already knew or believed.
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10th July 2012, 00:25
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What is the point of pointing out that this is not news?
This is a good occasion for discussing why this myth is so common in Europe and America, sowhy derail it with pointless nitpicking?
10th July 2012, 00:43
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Originally Posted by Oyggjaframi What is the point of pointing out that this is not news?
This is a good occasion for discussing why this myth is so common in Europe andAmerica, so why derail it with pointless nitpicking?
Well, if we are discussing why this myth is so common, doesn't it serve our purpose toconsider those who do not hold such views?
Gman made a valid point. Get over it. It was, to be sure, condescending and not constructivein the way he did it, and I would respect you a lot more if you had actually made thatargument. But you didn't. Instead, you're arguing that we shouldn't even consider the fact thateveryone on revleft already believed this to be true? I find that piece of information quiterelevant to this discussion, but if you are too dense to see why, then obviously you have verylittle to contribute to the discussion in the first place.__________________AKA El Vagoneta[FONT=Courier New] This is a website to help you quit smoking[/FONT]http://rananets.blogspot.com/ <Radical News Aggregator beta
10th July 2012, 00:49
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No, I did not say that we should not consider the fact that most, if not all, users on RevLeft
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agreed with the conclusion.What I was saying, was that it was pointless to point it out, because we all know that already.We have enough problems on these boards by this kind of oneupmanship.
10th July 2012, 00:58
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Originally Posted by Oyggjaframi No, I did not say that we should not consider the fact that most, if not all, users onRevLeft agreed with the conclusion.What I was saying, was that it was pointless to point it out, because we all know thatalready. We have enough problems on these boards by this kind of oneupmanship.
So we're supposed to consider it, but not mention it? You have a really strange way ofdiscussing things. Generally, when discussing things, and bringing up a topic for consideration,it usually is a good idea to mention the topic you want to consider in the discussion. Yourposition is becoming more and more untenable, I'd suggest you abandon ship.__________________AKA El Vagoneta[FONT=Courier New] This is a website to help you quit smoking[/FONT]http://rananets.blogspot.com/ <Radical News Aggregator beta
10th July 2012, 01:20
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Originally Posted by ¿Que? So we're supposed to consider it, but not mention it? You have a really strange way ofdiscussing things. Generally, when discussing things, and bringing up a topic forconsideration, it usually is a good idea to mention the topic you want to consider inthe discussion. Your position is becoming more and more untenable, I'd suggest youabandon ship.
WTF!?! Why is everybody a boss all of a sudden? "Do this, do that; don't do this, don't dothat!"
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Originally Posted by Book O'Dead WTF!?! Why is everybody a boss all of a sudden? "Do this, do that; don't do this, don'tdo that!"
I'm getting sick of seeing and experiencing this noxious authoritarian streak inRevleft!
Who's being authoritarian here? Oyggjaframi and now you are the one's trying to silencediffering opinions. What exactly have I said that is in any way authoritarian?__________________AKA El Vagoneta[FONT=Courier New] This is a website to help you quit smoking[/FONT]http://rananets.blogspot.com/ <Radical News Aggregator beta
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10th July 2012, 01:42
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"Rags to Riches" is part of the capitalist paradigm that is reflected in films made in Hollywood.
Or it's simply capitalist propaganda that is saying "See anybody can become rich"...
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10th July 2012, 02:00
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Originally Posted by ¿Que? Who's being authoritarian here? Oyggjaframi and now you are the one's trying tosilence differing opinions. What exactly have I said that is in any way authoritarian?
You're right. I overreacted. I apologize.
11th July 2012, 14:28
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Originally Posted by ¿Que? Who's being authoritarian here? Oyggjaframi and now you are the one's trying tosilence differing opinions. What exactly have I said that is in any way authoritarian?
For god's sake, man get your head out of your ass.
I'm not trying to "silence" anyone, what I did was pointing out what Gman said was pointless,and you had to come and make a fuzz.
Could we please get on discussing the topic at hand, please?
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