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Benjamin Joffe | CEO, Plus Eight Star | 3G Summit, Kunshan | 2009.10 Mobile Social Networks A Giant Fish?

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Presentation for the 3G Summit in Kunshan, China examining the current business cases for mobile SNS - already quite a big fish :-) It was followed by a panel discussion.

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Benjamin Joffe | CEO, Plus Eight Star | 3G Summit, Kunshan | 2009.10

Mobile Social Networks

A Giant Fish?

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ベンジャミン

本杰明

벤자민

Benjamin Joffe

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4 years

1 year

4 years

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Consulting | Startups | Community

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| Plus Eight Star

• “Innovation Arbitrage”• Internet & Mobile Digital strategy

• Best practices from China, Japan & Korea

• Published reports• Inside Cyworld

• Inside Tencent

• Inside Alibaba (upcoming)

• Contact• www.plus8star.com

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References

EUROPE USA

ASIA

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30 events

107 speakers

3,500 members

1,500 companies

Mobile Monday Beijing

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Startups

• Newt Games• Mobile SNS in 2003

• Japan, 3G, GPS

• Too early!

• Cmune• Social Web Games Developer

• First 3D FPS on Facebook!

• #1 Widget on Apple.com

• Virtual Goods

• www.cmune.com

• Looking for funding!

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You are on the wrong panel!

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“Social NetworkingIs Not a Business”

MIT Technology Review(July/August 2008)

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TIME (April 2009)

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How about mobile?

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Questions

1. Is it all so new?

2. Does it make money?

3. What exactly makes money?

4. What are the market catalysts?

5. The way ahead: Panel

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1. Is it all so new?

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ImaHima (Japan)(“are you free now?”)

250,000 users in 2001

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Mogi(Japan, 2003)

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Book | Mobile Social Networking

• Author: Tomi Ahonen

• 50 Case Studies!

– Published: 2009

– 10 EUR / 100 RMB

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It’s not about technology

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XHTML, Flash, Java

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WAP Brower

Chat room

Game

Info: finance,

book, newsMusic player

E-mail

Qzone (blog)

Movie

Source: Inside Tencent Report 2009

www.plus8star.com

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1.Guest book

2.Photo album

3.Friends list

4.Diary

5.Plaza

6.BBS

7.Club

8.’My Cy’ (settings)

About service fees

Find subscribers

Registering for fixed

payment

My picture

Mini hompy

Emotion expression

Cyworld Zone:

Map, Video service

Item shop

Source: www.plus8star.com

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Ad banner

Reminders: new “add to my friends” request;

“new message from a friend”, “new comment on

your diary from a friend”

- Main photo (here: Mixi’s CEO)

- Message box,

- Latest diary entries,

- Write an entry (from PC or mobile)

- My photo album

My favorite friends, “Foot-prints” (who visited

my profile page), Search function

My mixi friends’ list (here: 580 friends)

My communities’ list (here: 70 communities)

My profile / My introductions (what friends

wrote about me)

Invite a friend (using mobile email)

Latest diary entries by my friends

Source: www.plus8star.com

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Go to “my page”

Invite a friend

“New!”

- New avatar items release

- New game (golf game)

- Get new items by inviting friends

- Get Moba Gold by registering to the site

“Let’s play”

- Games: visual and text on the latest game release

- Decoration mail: animated illustration in your emails

“Let’s gather together”

- Visit MGT town

- Read latest diaries

- Search for new friends

- “Circles” (equivalent of communities)

- Q&A “the Questions market, let’s ask!”

Source: www.plus8star.com

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Mobile Game Town

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Source: DeNA

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Source: DeNA

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Business models&

Ecosystems

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Does it make money?

Going back in time

Conference in Washington D.C.

June 2008

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Mobile users 2008 (estimate)

3 mln 50 mln 6 mln 10 mln 10 mln

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Profit 2007 (USD)

(50 mln) 225 mln ~100 mln 35 mln ~60 mln

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Mobile Social Networks in Japan

Company Mixi DeNA GREE

Usage 2/3 mobile 100% mobile 100% mobile

Revenue 2008 $120 mln $320 mln $60 mln

Profit margin 31% 40% 63%

From users 5% 80% 75%

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Mobile Facebook

• 2009.06 | 3 million users?

• 2009.01 | 20 million users

• 2009.09 | 65 million users

• Revenue = 0?

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4. Catalysts

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1High speed & Flat fee

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2Payment systems

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3Girls

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4Companies & Schools!

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Panel Discussion

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Mobile SNS | Panel Discussion

• Panelists

– Yong Wang CEO, DeNA China / TX.cn

– Akio Tanaka Founding Partner, Infinity Ventures

– Richard Robinson Co-Founder & President, Kooky Panda

– Christopher Kahler Founder, Urbian.org

– Eduardo Sciammarella Founder, Protohaus.com

– Stephen Bell Managing Director, Trilogy Ventures

– Shintarou Yamada Founder & CEO, UNOH.inc

• Moderator

– Benjamin Joffe CEO, +8*

Partner, Cmune

Co-Founder, Mobile Monday Beijing

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Topics

1. Introduction1. Mobile SNS and You

2. Mobile SNS Business1. Successes, Barriers, Catalysts

2. Growth, Engagement, Monetization

3. Opportunities1. Concepts

2. Local vs. Foreign

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Conclusion(from Wikipedia)

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Learn more about “Innovation Arbitrage”

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