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TDP AWG meeting, Los Angeles, 2009-05-07 Matt Fleming slide ‹#› of 27 Major Points to Consider In order to compare reflectors the support has to be included. Hydroformed reflector cost is mostly material. Tooling cost gets lost in this project. An offset is 16% more area. 12m has not been done before. Previous 6m reflectors were 4.8mm thick, 12m will be 3.0mm

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Major Points to Consider. In order to compare reflectors the support has to be included. Hydroformed reflector cost is mostly material. Tooling cost gets lost in this project. An offset is 16% more area. 12m has not been done before. Previous 6m reflectors were 4.8mm thick, 12m will be 3.0mm. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: Major Points to Consider

TDP AWG meeting, Los Angeles, 2009-05-07 Matt Fleming slide ‹#› of 27

Major Points to Consider

In order to compare reflectors the support has to be included.

Hydroformed reflector cost is mostly material.

Tooling cost gets lost in this project.

An offset is 16% more area.

12m has not been done before.

Previous 6m reflectors were 4.8mm thick, 12m will be 3.0mm

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Hat Creek Assy

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SKA Assy

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Direct Unit PriceEasiest to Estimate

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Direct VariablePer Unit

Direct Fixed

Total Units

TotalUnit Cost

DirectUnit Cost

Unit Price

Raw materialIncoming freightDirect LaborConsumablesPackaging

EngineeringToolingProcess development

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Total Unit CostBest for comparison

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TotalUnit Cost

DirectUnit Cost

Indirect Fixed

Total Units

DirectUnit Cost

Unit Price

Facilities, Utilities,Rent, Insurance,Management, Purchasing, Training,Repairs, replacement.

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Unit PriceHard to Estimate

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Margin

TotalUnit Cost

DirectUnit Cost

Unit PriceTotal

Unit Cost

ProfitsProject ProposalsMarketingInvestmentsShareholder dividends

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Okay Assumptions First

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A Peak at Final Results

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Direct Variable CostsSummarize by Stations

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Step 1 Detail by Station

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More Detail by Station

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More Detail by Station

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Summary Direct Variable Costs

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Step 2, Production Rate Needed

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Step 3, Direct Fixed Costs

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Final Results Again

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Reflector & Support

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Dedicated Facilitymatched to production rate

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6 m ATA Primary

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6m JPL Symmetric

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Inspection ATA Secondary

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Test of Flash Projected Targets

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John Andersen & First Shipment

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Surface RMS at 12m ?

Project Diameter Mfg rms Grav rms Wt lbs

ATA 6.1m 29.2m² 0.25mm 0.70mm 1,400

JPL 6.0m 28.3m² 0.20mm 0.27mm

TDP 12.0m 113.1m² 1.50mm 5,814

CART Mk 1 10.0m 78.5m² 1.20mm

CART Mk 2 10.0m 78.5m² 0.54mm 0.86mm

XDM 15.0m 176.7m² 1.80mm

KAT 7 12.0m 113.1m² 1.00mm

ASKAP 12.0m 113.1m² 1.00mm

Mounted with gravity

paint

1/20

Previous 6m reflectors were 4.8mm thick, 12m will be 3.0mmOffsets have less curvature

0.36mm

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6m ATA Early

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Primary 12

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2.4m ATA Early

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Secondary 12

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Primary Reflector CostsJust Beginning to Learn

Project Diameter $ / dish Wt lbs $ / m² $ / lb

ATA -42 6.1m 29.2m² 24,600 1,400 842 17.57

ATA -350 6.1m 29.2m² 13,700 1,400 469 9.79

TDP 12m 113.1m² 29,451 5,814 260 5.07

CART Mk 2 10.0m 78.5m² 50,416 642

ASKAP 12m 113.1m²

KAT7 12m 113.1m²

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ATA -350 reflector original bid $8,300 at 12% total cost.ATA-42 Most recent price is $19,200 at 25% total cost

These are not final confirmed figures.Some of these numbers are guesses.

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Antenna CostsJust Beginning to Learn

Project Diameter $ / ant Wt lbs $ / m² $ / lb

ATA-42 6.1m 29.2m² 78,000 4,500 2,671 17.33

ATA-350 6.1m 29.2m² 66,000 4,500 2,260 14.67

ASCAP-36 12m 113.1m² 200,000 66,140 1,768 3.02

KAT7-80 12m 113.1m² 300,000 42,000 2,653 7.14

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ATA -350 reflector original bid $8,300 at 12% total cost.ATA-42 Most recent price is $19,200 at 25% total cost

These are not final confirmed figures.Some of these numbers are guesses.