LOVE Symposium by Plato. Symposium A Greek discussion or debate

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<ul><li>Slide 1</li></ul> <p>LOVE Symposium by Plato Slide 2 Symposium Slide 3 A Greek discussion or debate Slide 4 Symposium A Greek discussion or debate However, its actually quite casual Slide 5 Symposium A Greek discussion or debate However, its actually quite casual .and fun Slide 6 Symposium A Greek discussion or debate However, its actually quite casual .and fun This is how ancient Greeks liked to party Slide 7 Symposium A Greek discussion or debate However, its actually quite casual .and fun This is how ancient Greeks liked to party .and they did a lot of drinking Slide 8 Agathon Slide 9 A lot of Greek men Slide 10 A lot of drink Slide 11 A lot of Greek men A lot of drink What is the natural topic of conversation? Slide 12 A lot of Greek men A lot of drink What is the natural topic of conversation? LOVE Slide 13 Aristophanes Slide 14 He was an ancient comedian Slide 15 Aristophanes He was an ancient comedian He described there being three sexes: Slide 16 Aristophanes He was an ancient comedian He described there being three sexes: male, Slide 17 Aristophanes He was an ancient comedian He described there being three sexes: male, female, Slide 18 Aristophanes He was an ancient comedian He described there being three sexes: male, female, and an androgenous combination of the two. Slide 19 Aristophanes He was an ancient comedian He described there being three sexes: male, female, and an androgenous combination of the two. He said Zeus split up the androgenous sex with a bolt of lightning. Slide 20 Aristophanes So Aristophanes describes love as the desire for a person to find their other half Slide 21 Aristophanes So Aristophanes describes love as the desire for a person to find their other half To become whole. Slide 22 Phaedrus Slide 23 Love is: Slide 24 Phaedrus Love is: Great and wonderful Slide 25 Phaedrus Love is: Great and wonderful Supreme benefactor of mankind Slide 26 Phaedrus Love is: Great and wonderful Supreme benefactor of mankind Great sense of humour Slide 27 Pausanias Slide 28 Love is: Not singular but dual Slide 29 Pausanias Love is: Not singular but dual Common love when you have common interests Slide 30 Pausanias Love is: Not singular but dual Common love when you have common interests Heavenly love felt by boys during maturation looking for life partnership Slide 31 Pausanias Love is: Heavenly love can be BAD Slide 32 Pausanias Love is: Heavenly love can be BAD (if it leads to sexual desire) Slide 33 Pausanias Love is: Heavenly love can be BAD (if it leads to sexual desire) But, appropriate love is when one person educates another and makes them wise and good. Slide 34 Pausanias Love is: Heavenly love can be BAD (if it leads to sexual desire) But, appropriate love is when one person educates another and makes them wise and good (which may mean trying really hard) Slide 35 Eryximachus (Hes a doctor so his way of knowing is through anything to do with medicine) Slide 36 Eryximachus (Hes a doctor so his way of knowing is through anything to do with medicine) He agrees with Pausanias that love can be good or bad. Slide 37 Eryximachus (Hes a doctor so his way of knowing is through anything to do with medicine) He agrees with Pausanias that love can be good or bad. Like medicine, he believes love is about enhancing the good and depriving the bad. Slide 38 Eryximachus Common love is good but we must not indulge in it too much in case we get sick. Slide 39 Eryximachus Common love is good but we must not indulge in it too much in case we get sick. Therefore, love is good in moderation. Slide 40 Eryximachus Common love is good but we must not indulge in it too much in case we get sick. Therefore, love is good in moderation. Love is the cause of all self-control, happiness and justice. Slide 41 Agathon Slide 42 He comments that all that has been talked about so far is what humans can gain from love. Slide 43 Agathon He comments that all that has been talked about so far is what humans can gain from love (a very shallow and selfish way to look at it). Slide 44 Agathon He comments that all that has been talked about so far is what humans can gain from love (a very shallow and selfish way to look at it). So he suggests that they talk about Love as a God. Slide 45 Agathon Love is young and rules over the other Gods Slide 46 Agathon Love is young and rules over the other Gods, and therefore is peaceful. Slide 47 Agathon Love is young and rules over the other Gods, and therefore is peaceful. Love is: Slide 48 Agathon Love is young and rules over the other Gods, and therefore is peaceful. Love is: Sensitive, Slide 49 Agathon Love is young and rules over the other Gods, and therefore is peaceful. Love is: Sensitive, never forceful, Slide 50 Agathon Love is young and rules over the other Gods, and therefore is peaceful. Love is: Sensitive, never forceful, brave, Slide 51 Agathon Love is young and rules over the other Gods, and therefore is peaceful. Love is: Sensitive, never forceful, brave, He says Love is always moderate because he controls pleasures and desires. Slide 52 Agathon He also says no other God can master their respective expertise without Love. Slide 53 Agathon He also says no other God can master their respective expertise without Love. Love is responsible for: beauty, excellence, wisdom, goodness, etc etc Slide 54 Agathon Agathon is careless and vague about his description, yet everyone applauds and comments on how well spoken and brilliant he is. Slide 55 Socrates Slide 56 In true Socrates style, he is very humbles and suggests he cannot add anything of worth given that they all spoke so well. Slide 57 Socrates In true Socrates style, he is very humbles and suggests he cannot add anything of worth given that they all spoke so well. So he decides to tell a story of when he met a woman called Diatoma (an oracle). Slide 58 Socrates He quickly points of that while the previous speeches were well spoken, they might only impress the ignorant. Slide 59 Socrates He quickly points of that while the previous speeches were well spoken, they might only impress the ignorant. I.e. None of them have come close to describing the TRUTH Slide 60 Socrates Socrates begins questioning. Slide 61 Socrates Socrates begins questioning. Things like: Is Love a love of something? Slide 62 Socrates Socrates begins questioning. Things like: Is Love a love of something? Agathon agrees. Slide 63 Socrates He then gets Agathon to agree that Love must desire that which it has a love of. Slide 64 Socrates He then gets Agathon to agree that Love must desire that which it has a love of. He then points out that you can only desire something you dont have in their possession. Slide 65 Socrates He then gets Agathon to agree that Love must desire that which it has a love of. He then points out that you can only desire something you dont have in their possession. Slide 66 Socrates He goes back to Agathons argument in which he said Love is beautiful and good. Slide 67 Socrates He goes back to Agathons argument in which he said Love is beautiful and good. Which therefore means Love cannot be beautiful or good, since it desires it. Slide 68 Socrates He goes back to Agathons argument in which he said Love is beautiful and good. Which therefore means Love cannot be beautiful or good, since it desires it. Agathon agrees he was wrong. Slide 69 Symposium Slide 70 A major theme of Symposium is that you can only know the TRUTH of something if you can truly define it. Slide 71 Symposium A major theme is also that when you love something, you can love the knowledge of it, Slide 72 Symposium A major theme is also that when you love something, you can love the knowledge of it, i.e. in this case you dont have to love a specific beautiful object, but you can go beyond that and learn to love the idea of beauty. Slide 73 Symposium Another idea about Symposium is that knowledge is like love, Slide 74 Symposium Another idea about Symposium is that knowledge is like love, and Socrates definition of love describes his own relationship with knowledge. Slide 75 Symposium Another idea about Symposium is that knowledge is like love, and Socrates definition of love describes his own relationship with knowledge. It is something that you desire because dont have it. Slide 76 Symposium Another idea about Symposium is that knowledge is like love, and Socrates definition of love describes his own relationship with knowledge. It is something that you desire because dont have it. Slide 77 Symposium This means: If you think you have it, you really dont. The pursuit of knowledge is a life long pursuit. Slide 78 Symposium This means: If you think you have it, you really dont. </p>