Lets learn together Part 2(June 2009 till September 2009)

June 2009

behnam June 1st 2009 Dear Friends, I've missed you terribly. It is difficult for me to open this site at my office. I don't know why. Also, my computer that I used to use at home stopped working two days ago! I think it is old and tired(lol). Dear Maryam, thank you for your long writing. I enjoyed reading it. Thank you for some good advice. Your writing is closed somehow. I mean, there is no topic in it. I don't know what I should write as an answer. Please make it possible for me to write to you. Please don't close it. You can do it easily just by asking some questions and making some comments. Please give me some excuses to write to you Thanks. (lol) Dear Marina, so many thanks for your great writing. I really enjoyed reading it. I will answer it in the future. This is just to let you know that I have read it, and I have enjoyed reading it. Thanksssss(lol). Dear Nana, I have answered your writing about strong cow! Please try to find it. I don't know in which page it is. I just know that I prefer to be strong, but not a strong cow! By the way, strong bull is better, isn't it?(loool) Dear Andrew, where are you my friend? I hope to read more from you soon. Dear Cathy, I've missed you and your writings. Please keep on writing and make this thread a nice place to be in. Dear Mohsen,thank you for sharing your great thoughts with us. You are always helpful for me. I hope to hear more from you. I have to leave. I have no time to name all friends. Please forgive me. I hope to hear more from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 1 June, 2009

nanazhong June 1st 2009

dear Behnam, Thank you for your so detail answer,i can learn more from it. I'm so exciting because one of my friend whose i lost touch with two years ago keep touch with me again.I can't how to explain my feeling?As a result i think about some problems: 1.what's your best friend in your different period,the classmates in your primary school or middle school,university;the colleague in you job;the friends you know in other way. 2.how many years between you with the friend you know the longest time? 3.Have you regret that you lose touch with one of you friend? Best regards NANA JUNE 2,2009

nanazhong June 1st 2009 dear Cathy , Thank you for your watermelon.I also ate a watermelon yesterday(i dig it by a spoon).In my city the price of water melon is so cheap,1.6/kilo.I like the summer because i can eat many kind of fruit in Guangdong,such as apple,pear,grape,peach,durian?Mangosteen?litchi,and so on.Is it many kind of fruit in Beijing you can eat? Happy children days! NANA Jan 1,2009

behnam June 2nd 2009 Dear Marina, How are you my close friend? I hope everything is ok with you. I don't know how I should thank you for writing that wonderful friendly writing! Thank you very much indeed. It is time to have a look at your writing again and then write something as an answer. Actually, what I am writing isn't worth considering as an answer to your lovely writing. I'll just write something, in order to make you sure that Behnam does care about his

friends and their writings. Women are really fussy. They shop all day but they bring nothing to home! They try a lot of clothes, but they buy nothing. That is too loose! This is bright. That is dark. This is large. That is small. It doesn't suit me. It doesn't match with my bag. I look awful in it. It doesn't fit me, etc. These are some common sentences that you can hear in all shopping centres in all over the world. It doesn't matter that someone is from China or England. People are the same! Thank goodness that Marina has brought something to home with herself! (loool) What kind of noise do they make? I don't know. Some of them roar, some of them bark, some of them make a sound like a goat, some of them make sound like birds. To be berief, they make many kinds of sounds. It is as many as the number of animals. hahahah (looooooooooool). Joking aside, you know the sounds that boys make. Please let us know some of them. (loool). I make noise like a cock, and then I gather women around myself. (looooooooooooooooooooooool) hahaha... You are definitely right. Universities are one of the best places to make different noise, because there are many boys and girls in them. There are many excuses to make noise. By the way, according to the curve I explained in my last writing, it is a good and proper time to make noise and to find partner, then to make nest, and then to lay.(looooool) There is a witty question which is forgotten to be asked yet. I have been at universities for more than 12 years, but I ... Oh my God, what is wrong with me? (loool) Books have got personality. Some of them speak with us. Some of them say; "Come and read me!". On the other hand, some books make us hate them. They often say;" Get away!"(loool) What chikens do? It's clear. They just listen and wait for their turns.(loool) They are so humble in this situation! About Microwave, I got what you wanted to point out. That is true. It is about intefereing. If some noise interferes with signals, it stops us from getting correct information and good connection. In the world of human beings, it often happens. That is true that some noise interfere with real signals. We should try to produce the proper signal, and at the same time we should use special devices to reduce the noise on the output signals of our detectores. (loool) It's difficult, but possible! I'm not confusing at all. All your writing is as clear as a bright day. Thank you for using some good sentences. Thank you for saying some possitive things about me. Thank you for your kindness. Thank you for your possitive thoughts.

Thank you for reading. I hope to hear more from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 2 June, 2009

behnam June 2nd 2009 Dear Mohsen, How life is going with you? I hope you are happy and healthy. Thank you for writing in this thread. That is very nice of you to visit this site and our thread regularly. Dear Mohsen, to tell you the truth, I didn't get the text. In other words, I understood the text, but I didn't get your point. Could you please let me know what it means? About sitting with someone and eating or drinking something with someone I should say that I don't care. I dislike to sound selfish or proud, but I think, sitting with some famous people won't make us strong and famous. We have to make ourself important just by doing some important deeds. I always think to myself; "Behnam, you have been fan of someone or something for years, what have you gained? Is there anyone who supports you?" I know, it is very strange to think as I think, but it is a fact. It is a fact that speaking about some important people won't make us important. It is a fact that sitting with some important people won't make us important. It is a fact that.... I don't want to write about importance and who is important. It is really a long story. It is so philosophical. Some people know that when such and such person(famous one) gets to sleep and when gets up! A friend of mine knows that how many cups of coffee such and such person(famous singer) drinks during a day. What is the use of such knowledge? My father supports a football team in a crazy way. I don't know why he cares about that team. I often say to him; "Dad, if you cared about your degree in Mathematics, as much as you care about football and those silly players, you were a professor in it, and you could give a new theory in the world of Mathematics." He often looks at me in a way that a wise man looks at a stupid person and says; "Well, you Behnam, It is your turn! You do it instead of me and don't bother me!" Anyway, I gave you an alive example from my own family to let you know that taking photo with someone, being fan of someone, supporting someone in a silly or madly way, etc is not good. I believe, that man should take photo with Mohsen. That man should pay for sitting with Mohsen, etc. In this sentences, that man and Mohsen are two imaginary people.

Oh my dearest friend Mohsen, sorry to sound like a teacher or writing in a fatherly way. I hope you won't get upset. By the way, Mohsen, I am familiar with your thoughts. I just took this topic as an opportunity, or maybe as an excuse, to write something. Please forgive me for sounding like a strict friend. I hope to hear more from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 2 June, 2009

behnam June 3rd 2009 Dear Nana, How are you keepig? I hope you are fine. You have got a special personality. You often come late, but with full hands. I mean, you bring many useful things with yourself. Imagine there is a man who has got a wife and some children. He is on a business trip, and he is late. His family are worried about him. Finally he comes, but brings many things with himself to his family.(LOL) What you have brought to us? Well, you are not able to bring us some food or some presents. You have brought us some things that are much better than those stuff. Food and other stuff has got a very short life. We eat somethig, it's finished. There are some things which are everlasting! Kidness, love, etc are some examples, but I'm not looking at this angle, although there is no doubt about your kidness. All I am saying is making people think about some important issues! Yes, dear Nana, you made me think about my life and my friends. You made me review my life from the past until now. I won't answer your questions, because the answers are private somehow. I hope you forgive me. Friends are like books; they should be a few but useful! By the way, friendship has got many levels. All people are our friends from some points of view, but the levels of friendship are different. Everything is interesting and favourite when it is new, but friend is interesting and favourite when s/he is an old friend. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." A friend is helpful even though s/he is not near you physically. You have got his/her good impression on yourself, emotionally from a distance. You feel alive when you think of him/her. I believe, it is one the laws of the world that we are alive when our hearts beat quickly thinking of some human beings. In the world of friendship it happens regularly. For example, my heart is beating quickly now.(loooool)

I ho to hear m ope more from y soon. you All the best, Beh hnam, 3 June, 2009

Marina1 Jun 3rd 2009 M ne 9 Hel Behnam, llo ank much for you great wr ur riting , your points and your answe It's very nice ers. y Tha you so m to meet someon understand what I m m ne mean and wr it in a d rite different way and make it more y e clea That's be ar. ecause of yo knowled and und our dge derstanding me :) , so I so pleas for g I'm sed your answers. Dea Behnam, clothes hav changed ! in cave men time , the worn dre ar ve ey esses which are mad from leav , they were short an cover jus few parts from their bodies, then in de ves nd st n othe times eve er erything was changed , it was sham on a wom to mak he legs or hands s me man ke r app pear , now w returned to the cave men time fr clothes point of vie (LOL), we from s ew ever rything is al llowed to be appeared !!!! e The are lots o points in our current life have d ere of developed , but on the o other hand I think we a returnin to past st by step, even some laws which are used by some kind of are ng tep h y ds peop but wha a pity!!! Cave man w doing some actions because h wasn't knowing, ple, at was s he but now some p people are d doing some actions eve if they kn en now!!! ar t his woke up with great smil , in fact th h le his Dea Behnam, I've a great morning th day , I w mor rning will af ffect on all my day :) , so don't think that I'm serious and in a bad m d mood beca ause of my w writing toda , but I just saw a ter ay rrible movie , its name " a date wit e th dark kness " and I didn't like it. d e ar r mputer" :) , p please tell H that HE should be ok , HIM E e Dea Behnam , about your " Mr. comp and HE must have a brigh faced and a beautification oper d htd ration . and if HE didn' make 't that , we are go t oing to mak his upside down and make HIM a live amm ke e d M munition and put d HIM in house a M arrest , noth hing more (L (LOOOOOO OOOOOOO OOL). ar for our give pic Dea Behnam, thank you f reading my writing , and it's yo turn to g us a top , so thin deeply de friend , we want a fresh one :) . nk ear w f I'm very much l looking forw ward to hea aring from y as soon as you can you n. Mar rina. 206 6 behnam June 3 2009 3rd

Dear Cathy, How are you? I hope all is well with you. So many thanks for offering of watermelon! Watermelon is a fruit that everyone likes it. I thought a lot (I tried to take my friend's advice. She is your friend too. Hahaha) about what I shall write to Cathy. There wasn't any particular topic. Finally, I found poor watermelon a good excuse to write about. Writing about watermelon! So funny, isn't it? (looool) Have you ever seen the tree of walnut? Have you ever eaten walnut? You know that the tree of walnut is very large. It is a kind of tall tree. However, the fruit itself is small. Without exaggerating, the fruit is too small (nothing) in comparison with the tree. A funny man saw the tree of walnut. He said; "Oh my God! When the tree of walnut is extremely large, what should we say about the tree of watermelon? How big is it?" (loool) Watermelon is a cold fruit. We should be careful with its bad effects. At night it is so dangerous for some children. (loool) I am only joking. Although I am joking, there is an important point in every joke. The point of my joke is that it is much better for Behnam to write without thinking!!!(loooooooool) Whenever he thinks about a topic, he ruins that topic and spoils himself.(loool) Okay. It is time to be just a little bit serious.(lol) Dear Cathy, you don't write as before. What has happened? Does your boyfriend prevent you from writing, or the lack of time is the main reason for being so late and brief in writing? If your boyfriend prevents you, he is right, but if the lack of time bans us from reading your great writings, just let me know. You know, I'll send you some time, because it is summer. Teachers and students are usually free in summers, so that there is a lot of free time in my country during the summer. (loooooooooool). Thank you for reading. I hope not to sound rude. Please forgive me for making any mistakes. I hope to read more from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 3 June, 2009

Cathy Li June 3rd 2009

Dear Behnam, Thanks for your great friendship and your attention. I'm pretty good and enjoying every minute of early summer. Unluckily, I'm neither a teacher nor a student, but I am working in an educational consultants institute which offers services to teachers and students, so when teachers and students are enjoying the leisure time, we usually devote maximum attention to work. I'm eager to and longing for writting more to you and dear friends here every day. However, poor Cathy, she fails to do that. Cathy writes here as before Less words, strong feeling Small walnut, big tree bears big watermelon, friends eat If dear Behnam holds the same friendship to Cathy, if all friends love Cathy as before, I can give up small walnut and big watermelon. I'm here only for you this moment, coz I'm destined to live and to love friends. Who can sing without fear? Friends Who can warm your tired heart? Friends Who can always be your side? Friends I don't know why God creat this special word "Friends". When Friday ends, Friends are still be here, and always be everywhere.

Cathy

Cathy Li June 3rd 2009 Dear Nana, A million thanks for your kindness and care on me. I can easily taste fruits you listed. You are just like a special fruit which can moisten my heart. I've been more certain that how fond of each other the sisters are in real life.

Love you Cathy

Cathy Li June 3rd 2009 Dear Maryam, Tell me, do you like eating grapes? I'm just gazing at the round "Rosy Grapes" which are like a strings of purple beads. I hope you won't be upset if I descirbe you as "Rosy Grapes", coz You are a strings of pearls to me. Every bead can move me strongly and let me enjoy different tastes of life. I miss you strongly, Baby. Hope you are living in the balance of life in the new city. Cathy

Cathy Li June 3rd 2009 Dear Marina, You can clearly see that fruits are so popular among friends from the above writings. Which kind of fruits do you prefer? I get close to you and clearly see a bowl of cherries on the table beside you. The cherry trees blossomed early this year. Now, the cherries are quite ripe and let people feel the passion of youth. I love this kind of passion. It makes life full of tastes of love. Take time to love, it's a joy of life. Cathy

mary June 4th 2009 Hi Marina, How are you? How's life? I hope you are in a good mood and enjoy your time the best.

As I told you before, now I am at home, in front of my computer and writing to you. It feels really great. Thanks a lot for having sympathy with me. But it's not completely my case. Let's forget it. I think I complained about it a lot. As a matter of fact, I love cooking, but for sure I can not be a cooker! :) If I try my best and practice, I will be a good cook. Thank you for offering me to cook for me. By the way do you like to eat out or at home? and why do you prefer it? Who do like to eat out with? I hope you get a good job as you wish very soon. Thank you a lot for keep on writing to me and make friendship keep going. I hope to read more from you. Best wishes, Maryam

mary June 4th 2009 Hi Cathy, How are you my lovely friend? I hope wherevr you are and whatever you do, be healthy, happy and successful. Thanks a lot for your hositality. You are so kind towards friends. About grapes, for sure, I likke eating them. They are juicy and sweet and sometimes kind of sour. I really like them. Don't worry dear. I like the way that you describe things. Feel free and write whatever you like. I truly enjoy reading them. You are so special and it's clear in your writings. Thank you for your beautiful description. Always be happy, always wear a smile not because life is full of reasons to smile, but because your sweet smile itself is a reason for many others to smile. All the best, Maryam

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nanazhong J n June 4th 200 09 dear Behnam, I'm so happy w when i read your so long letter.At th same tim am sad that i can't write y g he me,i so lo letter to you becau my word is limited ong o use ds d.When i can write lette longer than n er long ger? As f as you a concerne far are ed,friendshi has got m ip many levels.How many levels in yo our heart?What's th basis for judgment,t he r time,interes sting?(If you think these are prive,y u e you can't answer m in public) me ) Hav a good w ve weekend NAN NA Jan 4,2009

metzean June 4th 2009 m Dea Behnam, ar Hop you have a bright da and feel happy, than for writi your ma pe e ay h nks ing assage for me. m Peop need to feel like a winner , wh they are complimen ople w hen e nted, they ge a warm fu et fuzzy, mag gical inside. This is imp . portant for p people to re eceive recog gnition .Som people do not me d go b beyond and above their duty even when they k r know it will help others because they l s, t thin nobody w recogniz their effo Their att nk will ze ort. titude is "ev if I do th ven hing, nobod is dy goin to notice anyway. ng e r acher in university, but he never re eceives reco ognition For example Behnam is a diligent tea by faculty or un f niversity dir rector. He may think th they und m hat derestimate his abilities a bad s, feel ling comes i inside of Be ehnam and h will prob he bably stop w working if he find better job. e r ersity praise Behnam i a way tha shows the receive es in at ey On other hand if the unive ognition abo how Beh out hnam acts i his job, B in Behnam will be more se l erious and reco indu ustrious for his perform mance. For example the can arra ey ange a cerem mony for Be ehnam and during cer d remony Behn is given a certifica gift or p nam ate, plague by a celebrity e.g. the

minister of education , his hard working would be appreciated .It would motivated Behnam to work better than past and feel happy inside. This is what celebrities do on ceremony and people recognize the feats of elite performers like behnam. Who are the celebrities? In my opinion the genuine celebrities are scientists, national champions who defend against enemies and people who devoted their life for humanity. But unfortunately some people like actors in cinema , soccer players are recognized as celebrities for average people of society. Because the can effect on the feeling of this people. I know that you do not watch T.V. there is Korean serial film on T.V which is call 'Jumong Saga" .In this movie there is an actress called SU-SA-Now. I have heard that a boy from Khoramabad ( a city in Iran) who eagerly watched this movie ,fell in love with SU-SA-Now and asked his father to send a letter to SU-SA-Now and ask her for marriage. But his father do not show any feed back to his boy and after few weeks the boy committed suicide.you see how actress effect on his feeling . Their Behnam , The invitation for dinner with Obama is just a cheating letter. The writer wants to get 5$ or 10$ from people and some nave people pay the money and never receive the invitation for dinner. I postet it here for LOL . Always be happy, Mohsen 207

behnam June 6th 2009 Dear Cathy, You cannot imagine how happy I was when I saw your writing. You cannot believe how I felt when I read it. Thank you for writing in this thread. You make this thread a warm place to be in. You make the atmosphere of this thread friendly. Your way of writing is special. Thank you for your close friendship which smells like big watermelon and small walnut. Please keep on writing. I think it is time to write about our countries. I am supposed to write about Iran, and you are supposed to write about China. I know that China is a big country. Iran is so tiny in comparison with China. When a country is big (Wide & vast) it is very difficult to write about it, due to the fact that there are different people with different ideas and cultures.

It is the same in Iran. I mean, there are different people with different cultures in Iran. Cultures vary from province to province. I am eager to know some things about marriage or wedding ceremony in China. I hope to read more from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 6 June, 2009

behnam June 6th 2009 Dear Marina, How are you? I hope you are fine. I will answer you soon. All the best, Behnam, 6 June, 2009

behnam June 6th 2009 Dear Mohsen & Nana, How are you? I hope you are fine. I will answer you soon. All the best, Behnam, 6 June, 2009

asal June 6th 2009 Hi.i am asal.i have been reading your writing.they are so interesting the more I read,the more they attract me.i?m not good in writing but I do my best although I need your help. Asa I see,you are very kind and helpful that I rarely could and can find this characteristicamong other people. You can consider it as a gift that GODgave you. As I told you,I read some of your writing and liketo tell you my feeling about some of you if it doesnot hesitate you. Cathy li:I like the way you write,the way you express your feeling. They are realy enjoyable and I love them.i think you see the world with thei details and can use them,describe them with your words,ofcourse with your nice feeling.

Bhnam:I think you were the first one who could gather other member with his encouraging words.you like to help people and this shows you are realy good teacher .i think you see world so seriously.your words praise me for writting although I know there is a long way to improve my writing but I am sure if everybody wants and practice,it will make the climb easier.you are so logical and I think you are a good person that are dependable. Andrew;dear old man,it is not easy to know you well but it seems you like to make others smile and also you are a helpful man. They are only my feeling by reading your words and hope you do not mind. I like to hear and read from you soon. Best regards asal

asal June 7th 2009 hi everyone i like to be friend with you but it seems nobody wants to read it.i can be a good friend you can see it

behnam June 7th 2009 Dear Asal, So many thanks for putting message on this site, in this thread. Welcome to this thread. Thank you once again for saying some positive things about me. Yes, you are absolutely right. I often take life so seriously. I like to take it easy, but I cannot. I don't know what is wrong with me. I believe, someone is human being when they help other people. Anyway, that is very kind of you to consider me a helpful person. I am not exaggerating- but, your English is great. You writing is wonderful. How did you learn English? What level are you at? I am so happy that you usually follow our writings. That is very nice of you. Would you possibly introduce yourself to us? Could you please write about yourself? This thread belongs to you. Please try your best to make this thread a nice place to be in. Thank you for joining us. Please share something with us. So sorry for the delay in replying. I am looking forward to hearing more from you very soon.

All the best, Beh hnam, 7 June, 2009

mary June 8 2009 m 8th Hi B Behnam, How are you m friend? I hope you a well and enjoying yo time. w my are d our I'm terribly sor for answ rry wering late. y know, t you that day wh I was at home(Sari and hich t i) wered to M Marina and C Cathy, I turn the com ned mputer off be efore answe ering your writing w answ and doing othe things. Bu unfortuna d er ut ately, I coul ldn't turn it on later. I d don't know exactly e wha the proble was. Any at em yway, sorry for being s late. y so We have a sayi ing, "The en njoyment wh is in forgiveness is not in reve hich s enge." (Loo ooL) You wanted me to give you an excuse for writing Ok, now if you want, you can an u e u g. f nswer the f following q questions? If yo could int ou terview with God, what would you choose to k h t u know about And why? t? ? Whi favor wo ich ould you as him? sk By t way, you wrote that my writing was closed I don't kn who clo the u g d. now osed it. (LoL And L) if it was closed you could knocked at the door of it. Did you do that? (L d, d t f u (LooooL) I go what you wanted to t me. Alth ot tell hough my wr riting is not very good, I try my be to t , est writ it that wa te ay. I kn you will tell me after a long tim just this short letter My answe is, "It's sh but now l me r! er hort swe eet." (Loooo oooL) I did mean to offend you or make y upset. I j wanted to play som jokes wit dn't o u you just d me th wor I hope n to bothe you. rds. not er I loo forward to reading f ok from you as soon as yo can. s ou Best wishes, Mar ryam

metzean June 8th 2009 m Dea friends, ar s ematical cha allenge, and it's been s d said that: This is a mathe If yo ou're an eng gineer (or h history majo , you sho or) ould be able to solve e it in (under) thr minutes if you're a architect, in three ho n ree s, an , ours; if

you're a doctor, in six hours; if you're an accountant, in three months and if you're a lawyer, probably never. if you're good at math or logical problems, solve this challenge and the answer is the password to open the spreadsheet to which you can add your name to the hall of fame. What is the missing number in this logical series? 1, 2, 6, 42, 1806, ____??? All the best, Mohsen

behnam June 8th 2009 Dear Maryam, How life is going in Tehran? I hope everything is going well with you. The weather is changing from time to time! It is spring, but we often have four seasons on just one day! How come? Well, as you can see, these days it smells like spring in the mornings, cool and nice. At noons, it is like summer, hot and dry. In the afternoons, it looks like autumn, windy and leaves are flying in the dusty sky! In the evenings, it is like winter, could and feeling less! I strongly believe that women are like the weather of spring! They are very changeable! Men cannot make a plan, because they cannot rely on their actions and sayings! (LOOOL)! Men should know that it is not good to count on women sayings. They often say different things. They tell us something in the morning, after half an hour or less, they will forget what have said before. They have got a very good memory to keep all bad things from the far past until now, but they don't keep their promises. They have not got a steady friendship with a positive fixed slope. Their feelings and thoughts fluctuate between minus and plus infinity! This is a strange habit of them!(LOOOL) Their beliefs, ideas and feelings change as quickly as the weather of spring. Dear Maryam, that paragraph is a common idea of me. Please take it easy. I just remembered it right know. I hope you don't take them personally. They are not meant to criticize any one person in particular. About your question I should say that it is a witty one. I haven't thought about it. I maybe asked about managing the whole world. How could you manage these creatures, plants, etc? What kind of feelings have you got when you know that you are the only boss of the entire universe? I maybe asked about women's strange behaviours! (looooooooool joking) How do you feel when you know that there is no the start and the end point?

How has closed it? Well, the writer! Don't you believe so? (loool) Dear Maryam, do not worry about making me upset, annoyed, angry, and so on. Just write what you want to. It is very good to be polite to people, and to be considerate, but sometimes, it prevents us from being ourselves. I reckon, we should be polite to people as long as it works. In some cases, being polite means being stupid. Being polite is one thing, but worrying about other people's feelings is other things. I think, it is not good to be so obsessed with people's feelings. According to this way of thinking, you are free to make jokes, to play jokes on words, even on me. I'll never get upset. Sometimes, I pretend to get upset, just to take more attention from someone, or to have emotional blackmail. (looooooool) What a brave man Behnam is! Who has the nerve to tell people such a fact???!!!! (loooooooooool) It is a fact in the world of human beings. Please write regularly. I hope to hear more from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 8 June, 2009

jackerrol June 8th 2009 hello benham i am jack from philippines. just new to this site, learning good command of english makes everybody a citizen of the world. i joined to have many friends all over the world and to learn better english. Good afternoon to both of you benham and hossain. jack 208

behnam June 8th 2009 Dear Mohsen, So many thanks for your great message and nice question. I found an answer for it, but I'm not sure whether my answer is true or false. I don't mean to boast, but I found it as soon as I saw the question. It only took one minute, or even less than one minute for me to solve it. I hope my answer is true. If so, what are you going to give me az a prize? (looool)

1 1*1+1=2 2*2+2=6 6*6+6=42 42*42+42=1809 1806*1806+1806=3263442 So, I think the answer is "3263442". Am I right? About your last writing, I completely agree with you. Thank you for writing in this thread. Please keep on writing. Please don't leave this thread. I hope to hear more from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 8 June, 2009

behnam June 8th 2009 Hello Jack, Thank you very much for putting message in this thread. Welcome to this thread. That is very kind of you to choose this thread for sharing some things with people and making friends with them. It seems that your English is rather good. I am a learner myself. I have been learning English for years. I really love it. For me, living without English and Physics is impossible. If I get married, I will have got three wives, Physics, English, and that person. (loool) Oh my God! How will I manage that hardship and bad situation? It will be a very chalenging thing. (loool) God help me when they feel jealous of each other! Hahaha... You should know that women's jealousy has got two sides. It's like fire. It makes life warm, but sometimes it burns all things.(loool) It is a man's art to manage the temperature, so that the life is always warm and friendly. It's really an art! (loool) Could you possibly introduce yourself? Thank you for joining us. Please do not hesitate to write me. By the way, I guess you have just visited the first page of this thread. I hope you will open the last pages to visit the new messages. All the best, Behnam, 8 June, 2009

behnam June 8th 2009 Sorry Mohsen, 42*42+42=1806. It was just a typing mistake. Best Regards, Behnam, 8 June, 2009

behnam June 8th 2009 Dear Idiom999, Thank you so much for putting message in this thread. Welcome to this powerful site. Do you know that the runner of this site is a kind English teacher? I am a teacher, but not kind. I am a strict teacher instead! By the way, I teach Physics rather than English.(loool) When it comes to considering English language, I'm a beginner. I hope our friendship would help us with improving our English skills. Of course, we can learn together. There is no limitations and restrictions. Just try to share something with me and my friends. There are many people in this thread from different parts of the world. They are so friendly. We would learn a lot through friendship. Would you possibly introduce yourself? Could you please write a little bit about yourself? Thank you for joining us. Please do not hesitate to write in this thread. I hope to read more from you. All the best, Behnam, 8 June, 2009

nanazhong June 8th 2009 dear Behnam, I think you answer for Mohson is right becase the same as me.I think Moshson will give a sweet kiss to you for prize :) best regards NANA JUNE 8,2009

nanazhong June 8th 2009 dear Cathy Thank you for your writing.How lucky i have a chinese sister as you! Do you belive in fortune?Do you think everthing is decided by someone?I do.Just like i can know you,Behnam Mohsen and so on in this way.This project is a little strange.Anyway i am happy i can know you. Do you belive something can give luck to you?My friend is so lucky since he bought a house.He is promoted and gain a lot of money,have a girlfriend. GOOD LUCK ANAN JUNE 8,2009

behnam June 8th 2009 Dear Nana, How are you? I hope you are healthy, happy, glad and fine. How can we write long? Well, it is so easy. Just put letters together to make words, combine words to make sentences, join sentences together to form paragraphs, and ultimately combine paragraphs to form a text. You see, it is very easy. Hahaha... LooooL. I'm only joking. Your writing is really good. You always make sense. If you try to explain something about your country to us, you will use many sentences, because it is not possible to explain something without writing some sentences about it. For instance, describe 'The World Biggest Ancient Wall' which is in China. You should know that most of us never have been to China, so we know a little about it. We have seen some photos of it, or maybe, some different stories. Now, try to give us a feeling of being in China, over that wall. Imagine that you are going to describe the wall to some children. It confines you to use some special simple sentences, everyday language, and plain English. If you try, you can. I believe, it isn't a matter of ability or something like that to write a long test; it is a matter of time instead. For ladies time is very important. They don't like spending time on writing. They prefer to spend a lot of time on wearing make-up, cooking some delicious food(If they can! Modern ladies often hate cooking, because they believe that cooking is not an interesting thing!(loool))

A friend of us has written that "quality is better than quantity". (I'm not sure about using the same words). According to their belief, it is not an important thing to write long, but meaningful or sweet. So, I suggest you following their strategy and policy! Don't worry about the length of your text, because we are not going to weigh it!(loool). I know that you are confused with my writing. I have to write more to make it clear, but I am in a hurry. I have to leave soon. As a hint I should say that I have made some sarcastic remarks in my writing.(looool). Only joking. About the levels of friendship and heart... To be frank, I didn't understand what you mean. Would you please make it clear? Please keep on writing, and keep our friendship going. I hope to read some long texts from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 8 June, 2009

behnam June 8th 2009 WOW! Dear Nana, we are writing at the same time. Oh my God! Heart talks to heart! It is about 20:20 In Iran, what time is it in your city? With regards, Behnam, 8 june, 2009

Mohamad June 9th 2009 Dear friends, Behnam,Mohsen Maryam,Marina, Nana,cathy,Andrew,and?.(ladies and gentlemen) How do you do my intelligent and kind brother and sister salam to you all. I can write just these words, 1.salam (Hello) 2.I hope you are in good health, and 3.I am so sorry I am here and I am reading your writing everyday, I lost my password and didn?t open my reply box, so I registered again. Experience show that reading your writing helps me promote a motivity attitude toward life and toward communication , so thank you for being such a good friends to me and making my times with the best words you write. With special thanks, Araghi, 9,June,2009

behnam June 9th 2009 Hello dear Mr Araghi, How are you my old friend? "Hardasan Kishi? Niya bizi tak ghoidin?" I hope you are in a good mood, enjoying your beautiful life, trying to achieve your golas, following success, making the world a good place to be in. Thank you for putting message in this thread. Welcome! You have lost your password! It means that you have forgotten it! Oh my God! It means that you haven't used it for ages, at least you haven't written for ages! Why? What have we done to deserve this punishment? Why have you punished us with your continuous long silence? Please have a mercy on your friends. We really need to feel your presence! Thank you for putting message. I had been missed you terribly. I became so glad when I saw your message. Please try to write regularly. Your writing is great. Please share something with us. Your thoughts are great. Don't keep them as a secret. Please keep on writing in this thread. I hope to see more writings from you. All the best, Behnam, 9 June, 2009 209 Cathy Li June 9th 2009 Dear Behnam, Thanks for your nice words which lets me much happier. Thanks for your close attention which lets me keep on writing on hard days. Thanks for your great friendship which always touches my heart. Dear friend, I found you favor me a big watermelon-a big topic about marriage and wedding ceremony in China. It's hard for me to digest, and all I can do is just to enjoy a tiny slice of it. Different regions have different customs in China. But one thing is similar that the people should abide by monogamy. Following the traditional customs, the male always affords a house ready for the marriage. However, nowadays, the young people bear great pressure on how to live a life. It's not easy for one to buy a house in big cities. I personally think the modern marriage in some big cities, such as Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guangzhou, is very simple. The young lovers will choose the way which suits for their situation to get married, irrespective of the traditional way.

I can't tell the difference clearly, but I can promise that I will definitely invite you to attend my wedding ceremony in near future. I think by this way you will enjoy more. I'm looking forward to sharing your views. Cathy

Cathy Li June 9th 2009 Dear Maryam, Welcome home! With a big hug, welcome you back. From your writing to Marina, I got to know that you were at home and enjoyed cooking some nice dishes. I firmly believe that you must be a good cook, coz you always do things seriously and diligently. Even thought I am poor in cooking more delicious food, I love cooking much. I used to cook some special food to invite some good friends over for dinner, but recently it's hard for me to balance the time. Cooking can help me remove the troubles away and let me relaxed. I plan to cook some food this weekend and enjoy it with couple of friends. So, enjoy yourself and cook much, good luck will follow soon. Good luck to you, my girl. Cathy

Cathy Li June 9th 2009 Dear Nana, I believe fortune will follow our friendship. I believe God has bestowed all attributes to our human beings, and that's the best luck to all of us, and that's why we can embrace each other and immerse in this warm place. Sometimes, when I meet some people at the first sight by chance, I just feel that I have been so familiar with them. That's kind of predestination, I personally think, and I take it as sort of predestination. Some people also think that love can only be found by accident and not through seeking, but we know that the true luck is we cherish and fully enjoy all we had. I am enjoying our great friendship. I love wearing amethyst bracelet, coz amethyst always brings good luck to me. Is there

any ornaments special to you? I am sure good luck will be doubled by sharing. Good luck to you Cathy

behnam June 10th 2009 Dear Cathy, How things ar going with you? I hope everything is going well with you. I hope everything is going according to what you wish! I hope the future comes according to what you expect. Thank you very very much for writing something about the marriage in China. Dear Cathy, as you know, I'm not an intelligent clever sharp man. I cannot understad things easily. You should write about something, like marriage in China, in a simple way. Let's suppose that there is girl, and her name is "Z". There is also a boy, his name is "X". Now, countinue writing about their lives. Follow their lives until graveyard! I mean, write a short story about them. Another thing about your country which is very interesting for me is the number of girls in comparison with the number of boys. According to statistics, there is only one girl for four boys! We have heard that couples in China are not allowed to have more than one child. On the other hand, almost all families, prefer having boy to having girl. I don't want to speak about the reasons of it, surely traditional way of thinking is one of them. Families often like to have someone as an inheritor who is a male. Well, nowadays, it is so easy for couples to know what is the sex of the baby before giving birth to it. I am not sure, but they can become aware of the sex of babies in the womb after two weeks. When they find out that the baby is a girl, they abort it. I mean they stop growing before being complete. Abortion is maybe forbidden, I don't know. However, some families will finally find a way to abort the famles babies. They will try their best to have a boy. I have also heard that nowadays it is possible to make decision about the sex of the baby that you are going to have it in the future. Oh my God. Some people advise couples on how to give birth to whatever you want; boy or girl. SO FUNNY(LOOOL). What do you want? A girl. OK. You should do this and that. Hahahaha... Anyway, they; not all people, but the majority of couples, prefer boys to girls. The question is this: What will happen in the future for boys who cannot find partners?

Will your government import females from other countries? It seems funny at the first glance, but it is a fact. Facts are often hidden among other things. Facts are not easily caught by ordinary people! Anyway, what is the solution? I hope to read my answers very soon. All the best, Behnam, 10 June, 2009

asal June 10th 2009 Hi Behnam, How are you my friend? I hope you are well and enjoying your time. I am so glad to write in this thread.i know ,because of lacking in English knowledge that I have, it made my writing not clear to understand.but I do my best and will be realy happy if you tell me about my mistakes if you have enough time and donot mind. I am studying in an english institute but I have been taking part in this class less than two years. I have teaching at home and some institute math and physics. My sister encourages me to continue my education.i like to receive my M.S in iran and for P.H.D in another country. I know azari,too but not as much as you know as a native. I am looking forward to reading about you. Best regards, Asal

asal June 10th 2009 Hi Behnam, How are you my friend? I hope you are well and enjoying your time. I am so glad to write in this thread.i know ,because of lacking in English knowledge that I have, it made my writing not clear to understand.but I do my best and will be realy happy if you tell me about my mistakes if you have enough time and donot mind. I am studying in an english institute but I have been taking part in this class less than two years. I have teaching at home and some institute math and physics. My sister encourages me to continue my education.i like to receive my M.S in iran and for P.H.D in another country. I know azari,too but not as much as you know as a native.

I am looking forward to reading about you. Best regards, Asal

asal June 10th 2009 Hi Dear Maryam Thank you for studying this writting I am Asal a new member of this site.as I have read ,you are so kind and optimistic,and I like to have a friend like you .i had lived in your city (sari)for four years.i like mazandran.because of my father?s job I have lived in different cities. I like the way you write and think . when I read your writing, I feel that my close friend is near me. She lives in another city far from me.i hope I donot bother you with my writting.it is my e.mail address:(yasi.asal6@gmail.com) I like to hear from you soon. Best regards, Asal

asal June 10th 2009 Hi Dear Cathy li Thank you for studying this writting I am Asal a new member of this site. I would appreciate the way you express your feeling. They are realy enjoyable and I love them.i think you see the world with its details and can use them,describe them with your words,ofcourse with your nice feeling. it is my e.mail address:(yasi.asal6@gmail.com) I like to hear from you soon. Best regards, Asal

asal June 10th 2009 Hi Dear Marina Thank you for studying this writting I am Asal a new member of this site.you are so sweet person. I like arab people.i hope we be the best friend. it is my e.mail

address:(yasi.asal6@gmail.com) I like to hear from you soon. Best regards, Asal

asal June 10th 2009 Hi Andrew Thank you for studying this writting I am Asal a new member of this site. I like to communicate with you and other member.as I read it seems you like to make others smile and also you are a helpful man.I hope I donot bother you with my writting. I like to hear from you soon. Best regards, Asal 210

lotus3008 June 10th 2009 Hey, Behanm. Your questions and your thought are very recommendable here. I think you are a man relish of thinking. Now let me tell you the idal i think. Yean, you are right. It is un-balanceable in the number boys comparation with girls these year. But one thing you should know is that the thinking prefer to have a B-baby is very few now, escepcially in City like Beijing, ShangHai or ShenZhen. Maybe ten years ago the thought is natural as the integrated development, include cultrue and economic or level of people's life is very slow. But now, you know, the economic of China can have a challenge with America. Another thinkg is that the rate of man to female is about 119:100, but not 4:1. O(?_?)O ??~ If i will have a baby later, i like he (she) wharever she is girl or boy, she is my honey, also my parent and family. So, do not worry about it or fell confuse about it althougn there will over 5 million can not find the other patner.

Wish what i said will be helpful to you. By the way, I work in a India Company in ShangHai now. Glad to have a discussion with you. Best Regards Shawn X

behnam June 10th 2009 Hi Asal, How are you keeping? I hope you are happy and healthy. It was very nice to read your writings. It put me in a good mood. Now, I am happy because an energetic friend has come to this humble thread. Your English is great. Your writing skills are very good. Please devote a little of your time and energy to writing in this thread, to sharing some things with us. Since I'm a learner myself, I'm not able to correct your writings. My knowledge about English is not good enough to correct someone's mistakes. I firmly believe that correcting people's mistakes is not a good policy. At least, it'll never work in this place. My learning strategy is based on writing without worring about making mistakes. Whenever I've made a mistake, I learnt something from it. Let me give you an example: If you read my last writing to Cathy, you will find a big mistake in it. It is full of mistakes, but one of them is very big!(LOOOL) I am sure that you and all my friends have noticed it. It is a grammatical error actually. Just look at this structure "suggest someone doing something!" Is it a grammatical sentence? Of course, not! There is no such structure as it in the English language. It must be "suggest doing something", or "suggest someone do something". Well, I've made this mistake, but I'm not worried about it, because I have learnt from it the true structures of using "suggest" and "recommend". I'd seen those structures in different dictionaries for many times, but it was useless! Here, we learn through writing and reading. It is very nice making friends with a person who is interested in English, able to understand Azeri language, likes Physics, teaches Physics and Maths, and intends to continue studying in order to receive M.S and Ph.D degrees. Oh my God! We have got many things in common!

I am still in the dark, because you didn't tell us about yourself. Would you please introduce yourself? At least, let us know what is your gender, and how old you are? I hope to read more from you as soon as you can. All the best, Behnam, 10 June, 2009

behnam June 10th 2009 Dear Shawn X, So many thanks for responding to my last writing to my dear friend, Cathy. It is very kind of you. First of all, it should be mentioned that I wasn't criticising. I respect all people, all cultures, all countries, and all religions. It was just a question. I hope you didn't get upset with me and by my words. You are absolutely right. Nowadays, people's beliefs and attitudes have changed. It is the same in all parts of the world. In my country, females are respectable. They are treated with respect. A point should be made that women have always been treated with respect in my country. It isn't my own idea, that is what the history shows. The ratio of females to males is 119:100??? How come? That's great. Because of many reasons, the rate of females to males in all countries is more than 1, but it seems that the reverse is true in China!!! How come? Why? China is the most populated country in the world. It has got a population of more than 1.4 billion. Let's play with numbers and make a calculation(lool): The number of men=1400000000/(119+100)*119=760730593 The number of women=1400000000/(119+100)*100=639269406 The difference between those two numbers=760730593-639269406=121461187!!! Oh my God! A huge number of men who haven't got partner. This number is about 1.7 times more than the population(all females and males) of my country, Iran! There is no doubt that China is a very wide and vast country. In compariosn with it, Iran is so tiny. By the way, it is powerful as well. Dear Shawn X, I am not sure about those numbers. Also, I am not sure about the ration of single males to single females which was 4:1. I think this ration is based on facts if we consider only single people.

I believe, all countries are facing with such serious problems and challenging facts. Thank you for reading this writing Shawn X. I hope you won't get upset with my words. I needed an excuse to write something in this thread. At this time, China and the number of single females and males was a good excuse to write about and to play a joke on my dear friend, Cathy. Your English is great. Please do not hesitate to write in this thread, and to share something with us. All the best, Behnam, 11 June, 2009

lotus3008 June 11th 2009 Dear Behnam, I am glad for your reply and discussing with this topic. I think you have misconstrued my words. Like you, I really respect you and your thought, even i am inspire by your passion that you are so interested in China's problem. OK, let's continue the discussion. Maybe you have a wrong reference to my words: "The ratio of females to males is 119:100??? How come?" I said it is male:female about 119:100. And this is the statistic in 2005, sorry i have not declared of this. I have search the rate carefully agian, but no one can give me the exact result of rate. Even we have the data of rate, You know, it is still not accurate as so many reasons, such as the area, period and so on. In fact, the rate is not the peoblem, the main thing is that there is the true that China will have increasingly more men than women of reproductive age for a long time. China will have too many men for a generation to come. I think there are 3 measures to alleviate the current situation. One is that China will still hold the policy, one family one child. And another is to spread propaganda in everywhere of china: girl is also the successor and inheritor. And the third, sex?selective abortion accounts for almost all the excess males now, so it is forbidden in every hospital. Thanks for your care and interest about China's population problem. Most chinese, include me, have not thought this for a long time for many years. But many friends aroud me, know or un-know them, have the same idea that we love our next

era no matter they are girls or boy. Can you tell me something interesting about you and your country ? I know nothing about your culture. Thanks. Shawn X

Thanks for your reply , Dear Winnie. What is your job, would you mind tell us. Thanks.

lauri June 11th 2009 Hey y'all, I joined this group tonight because I couldn't sleep and wanted to do something to entertain my mind. English is my first language but I enjoy learning about other places in the world. I'm female and 18 years old. I graduated from high school (secondary school) in May and college begins in August. You all write English very well. I took spanish as a second language in school and it is difficult to learn a new language. I'm not fluent yet but I'm happy I did it because my parents let me go to Mexico on holiday. And I will continue learning spanish in college. Behnam, I read that you are a teacher. I want to be a history teacher once I finish school. Can you answer a question in your next reply? Khadijah, Muhammad's first wife, was a merchant and was independant. I don't understand why, in some strict Islamic places, women don't have equality. Peace, Lauri

asal June 11th 2009 Hi lauri how are you .i am so glad to know you. i hope to be a good friend with you.

best regards, asal

winnie li June 11th 2009 Dear Shawn X, Thanks to remember me You can not image how excited and happy am i to join here. I am from Guangdong China,work in apparel trade,American company.Have you ever gone to Guangdong? Dear all. Good evening.it is 10PM in China. I am a new menber here. let us learning english and share with our mind freely in this forums. I think u are all well in english,would mind teach me ? Best regards, Winnie

nanazhong June 11th 2009 dear Cathy, I'm exiting when i read your thread everytime."predestination",this word is perfect,which i cann't express this meaning,you do. As you are concerned,you believe in falling in love at first sight?For me,I am suspicious of it.Though we may have a special feeling with the person at the first sight,it is just feeling not love.We are not crazy.Do you agree with me?One of my friend don't agree with me,she says love is a feeling,you should believe your heart. Tomorrow is Friday near to weekend.I am becoming happy again.The same to you. NANA June 11,2009

nanazhong June 11th 2009 dear Winnie & Lauri, Welcome to the longest thread in this forums.welcome to our family.You will love here because we have "the thread's father---Behnam".He can treat you as his

children.?HAHA.....,When Behnam see it,his moustache will be tilted.Don't misunderstand,our Behnam is a very very handsome man) Let's learn together!! NANA June 11,2009

samor June 12th 2009 Hi Lauri, your question draw my attention and i would like to answer you ,sorry Behname i can't be patience untill i see your reply, i got this article from the website http://english.islamway.com/ also there are alot of articles belong to women and family you see them if you wanna to know more about the postion of woman in islam. http://english.islamway.com/bindex.php?section=all_article&topicid=40

Women in Islam: Oppression or Liberation?

For centuries, Muslim women in all corners of the world have been aware of the liberation that is achieved by adhering to the concept of hijab. Current world events have once again brought the issue of women?s liberation in Islam to the forefront of people?s minds. Can a Woman Who Adheres to Hijab Be Liberated? Can a religion that considers morality to be a part of faith clearly define the equality of men and women and their rights and responsibilities? The answer is a resounding ?yes.? In a day and age when the basic tenets of Islam are being questioned by Muslim and nonMuslim alike, we must be cautious when evaluating Islam. The general picture that is painted by the media is biased and unsubstantiated. The impression that some Muslims give to the world is often not a true reflection of the religion, one that is the completion of all religions. Islam, the religion for all people in all places and times, which takes the equality of men and women very seriously. It sees the liberation of women as essential and considers modesty, good character, and manners to

be the way to achieve such liberation. Too often, the image of a covered woman is used to represent what much of the world views as oppression. Her very existence is described in terms that convey ignorance and unhappiness. Words like ?beaten,? ?repressed? and ?oppressed? are bandied about by the Western media in a desperate attempt to convince the readers that women in Islam have no rights. Descriptive and intrinsically oppressive terms such as ?shrouded? and ?shackled? are used to portray an image of women who have no minds and who are the slaves or possessions of their husbands and fathers. In the 19th century, T. E. Lawrence described women in Arabia as ?death taking a walk,? and from that time forward, the true status of women in Islam has been shrouded by misunderstanding. The truth about women and Islam is far from this melodramatic portrayal. Over 1,400 years ago, Islam raised the status of women from a position of oppression to one of liberation and equality. In an era when women were considered possessions, Islam restored women to a position of dignity. In order to gain a true insight into the real and lasting liberation that Islam guarantees women, we must first examine the concept of liberation as viewed by the West. In Western countries where liberation encompasses unlimited freedom, many women are actually finding themselves living lives that are unsatisfying and meaningless. In their quest for liberation, they have abandoned the ideals of morality and stability and found themselves in marriages and families that bear little resemblance to real life. What is liberating about working all day and coming home at night to the housework? What is liberating about having babies who, at six weeks old can be deposited in childcare centers to learn their behavior and morality from strangers? Girls as young as 6 years old have been diagnosed with eating disorders, teenage pregnancy is rampant, and women who choose to stay at home to raise their families are viewed as old fashioned or unemployable. Women in the West are liberated: liberated to the point that they are no longer free to choose the life that is natural for them. They are free only to choose from the selection of consumer goods offered to them by their masters. The so-called liberated women of the West have become slaves. Slaves to the economic system, slaves to the fashion and beauty industries, and slaves to a society that views them as brainless machines, taught to look desirable, earn money, and shop. Even the career woman who has managed to push her way through the glass ceiling is a slave to the consumer society, which requires her to reside in a spacious house, wear only the latest designer clothes, drive a luxurious car, and educate her children at the most exclusive and expensive schools. Is This Liberation? The natural inclination of women is to please, comfort, and support their men: their husbands, fathers, brothers, or sons. The natural inclination of men is to protect, support, and provide for the women lawfully in their lives: wives, mothers, sisters, and daughters. Islam, the only true religion and infallible guide to life, requires that we follow such

natural inclinations. It allows us to abandon ideas that are intrinsically foreign to human nature and supports us in developing and sustaining natural family relationships that spread out to form part of the wider Muslim community. A Muslim woman knows her place in society and knows her place in the family infrastructure. Her religion is her first priority; therefore, her role is clear-cut and defined. A Muslim woman, far from being oppressed, is a woman who is liberated in the true sense of the word. She is a slave to no man or to any economic system; rather, she is the slave of God. Islam clearly defines women?s rights and responsibilities spiritually, socially, and economically. Islam?s clear-cut guidelines are empowering; they raise women to a natural and revered position. Women in Islam have no need to protest and demonstrate for equal rights. They have no need to live their lives aimlessly acquiring possessions and money. With the perfection of Islam as the natural and only true religion came the undeniable fact that women and men are equal, partners and protectors of one another. {So their Lord accepted from them; Never will I allow to be lost the work of any of you, be they male or female. You are of one another; so those who emigrated or were driven out from their homes, who suffered harm in My cause, and fought and were killed, I will verily expiate from them their evil deeds and admit them into gardens under which rivers flow: a reward from God; and with God is the best rewards.} [Quran 3:195] {And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allah, such will enter paradise; and not the least injustice, even to the size of a speck on the back of a date stone, will be done to them.} [Quran 4:124] Women in Islam have the right to own property, to control their own money or money that they earn, to buy and sell, and to give gifts and charity. They have formal rights of inheritance. They have the right to an education; seeking and acquiring knowledge is an obligation on all Muslims, male or female. Married Muslim women are completely free from the obligation of supporting and maintaining the family, yet may work if they wish too. They are in no way forced into marriage, but have the right to accept or refuse a proposal as they see fit. Women in Islam have the right to seek divorce if it becomes necessary, as they also have the right to save their marriages. Islam teaches that the family is the core of society. In Western cultures, the fabric of society is being torn apart by the breakdown of the family unit. It is in these crumbling communities that the call for the liberation of women arises. It seems to be a misguided and feeble attempt to find a path of security and safety. Such security is available only when the human being turns back to God and accepts the role for which he or she was created. Liberation means freedom, but not the freedom to do as one pleases. Freedom must never

be at the expense of oneself or of the wider community. When a woman fulfills the role for which she was created, not only is she liberated but she is empowered. The modestly dressed or covered woman you see in the street is liberated. She is liberated from the shackles that have tied the feet of her Western counterparts. She is liberated from the economic slavery of the West, and she is liberated from the necessity of managing a house and family without the support of her husband or the help of a wider community. She lives her life based on divine guidelines; her life is filled with peace, happiness, and strength. She is not afraid of the world, but rather embraces its tests and trials with patience and fortitude, secure in the fact that true liberation is only achieved by full and willing submission to the natural order of the universe. Oppression is not defined by a piece of material, but rather by a sickening of the heart and a weakening of the mind. Oppression grows in a society that is crumbling because its members have lost sight of the true purpose of their existence. Liberation arises and takes root in a society that is just, cohesive, and based on natural order and divine guidelines. Islam is such a society, and this is what makes a Muslim woman is liberated. Are Muslim women oppressed?

Are Muslim women oppressed? Among the many topics of interest to non-Muslims, the status of Muslim women and the theme of their rights -- or rather, the perceived lack of them ? seems to be foremost. The media?s portrayal of Muslim women, usually outlining their ?oppression and mystery? seems to contribute to this negative perception. The main reason for this is that people often fail to distinguish between culture and religion -- two things that are completely different. In fact, Islam condemns oppression of any kind whether it is towards a woman or humankind in general. The Quran is the sacred book by which Muslims live. This book was revealed 1400 years ago to a man named Muhammad ?peace be upon him-, who would later become the Prophet ?peace be upon him-. Fourteen centuries have passed and this book has not been changed since, not one letter has been altered. In chapter 33, entitled Soorah Al-Ahzaab (The Clans), verse 59 Allaah The Exalted Almighty Says (what means): {O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the woman of the believers to bring down over themselves (part) of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known (as free respectable women) and not be abused. And ever is Allaah Forgiving and Merciful}. [Quran 33:59] This verse shows

that Islam makes wearing a Hijaab necessary. Hijaab is the word used for covering, not only the headscarves (as some people may think) but also wearing loose clothes that are not too bright. Sometimes, people see covered Muslim women and they think of this as oppression. This is wrong. A Muslim woman is not oppressed, in fact, she is liberated. This is because she is no longer valued for something material, such as her good looks or the shape of her body. She compels others to judge her for her intelligence, kindness, honesty and personality. Therefore, people judge her for who she actually is. When Muslim women cover their hair and wear loose clothes, they are obeying the orders of their Lord to be modest, not cultural or social mores. In fact, Christian nuns cover their hair out of modesty, yet no one considers them ?oppressed?. By following the command of Allaah, Muslim women are doing the exact same thing. The lives of the people who responded to the Quran have changed drastically. It had a tremendous impact on so many people, especially women, since this was the first time that the souls of man and women were declared equal -- with the same obligations as well as the same rewards. For the first time in history, women were granted economic independence in Islam. The money they bring in to marriage is theirs as well as the money they earn. In Islam, women are allowed to choose their own husbands and in extreme cases, ask for divorce. A woman has the right to be educated, contrary to what the contemporary world might think. The responsibility is that of the person who is raising her. Islam is a religion that holds women in high regard. Long ago, when baby boys were born, they brought great joy to the family. The birth of a girl was greeted with considerably less joy and enthusiasm. Sometimes, girls were hated so much that they were buried alive. Islam has always been against this irrational discrimination against girls and female infanticide. The Prophet Muhammad, sallallaahu ?alayhi wasallam, said: Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim (male and female) [Narrated By Ibn-Majah & was classified as Sahheeh By Al-Albani but other scholars have classified it as weak]. Men and women both have the capacity for learning and understanding. Since it is also their obligation to promote good behavior and condemn bad behavior in all spheres of life, Muslim women must acquire the appropriate education to perform this duty in accordance with their own natural talents and interests. While maintenance of their homes, providing support to the husband and bearing, raising and teaching children are among the first and very highly regarded roles for a woman, if she has the skills to work outside the home for the good of the community, she may do so. However, this is allowed only as long as her family obligations are met and as long as she complies with the Islamic code of dress and conduct, with no intermingling with men

in the workplace. Islam recognizes and fosters the natural differences between men and women despite their equality. Some types of work are more suitable for men and other types for women. This differentiation in no way diminishes the effort or benefit of one gender over the other. God will reward both genders equally for the value of their work, though it may not necessarily be within the same sphere of activity. The two great roles a woman plays in life are that of a wife and a mother. The Prophet ?peace be upon him-, once said to a group of Companions: Concerning motherhood, the Prophet Muhammad, sallallaahu ?alayhi wasallam, said: Heaven lies under the feet of mothers [Classified as Weak By Al-Albani in Daeef al Jamea']. This implies that the success of a society can be traced to the mothers who raised it. The first and greatest influence on a person comes from the sense of security, affection and training received from the mother. Therefore, a woman having children must be educated and conscientious in order to be a skillful parent.

A man came to the Prophet, sallallaahu ?alayhi wasallam, and asked: "Who among mykinfolk is worthy of my good companionship?" The Prophet ?peace be upon him-, replied: "Your mother" three times before saying: "Your father [Bukhari]. This indicates the impact that a mother has in a person's life. So women are highly honored in this great religion. Islam is a religion that treats women fairly. The Muslim woman was given a role, duties and rights 1400 years ago that most women do not enjoy even today in the West. These rights are from God and are designed to maintain a balance in society; what may seem ?unjust? or ?missing? in one place is compensated for or explained in another place. From: Al-Jumu?ah Vol. 14

The best among you are those who are the best to their wives [Narrated By IbnMajah & Classified as Sheeh By Al-Albani in Saheeh Ibn-Majah]. This shows that Islam highly encourages treating the wives well. They should be shown love, respect and care. To foster the love and security that comes with marriage, Muslim wives have various rights. The first of the wife's rights is to receive dowry, a gift from the husband, which is part of the marriage contract and required for the legality of the marriage. The second right of a wife is maintenance. Despite any wealth she may have, her husband is obligated to provide her with food, shelter and clothing. He is not forced, however, to spend beyond his capability and his wife is not entitled to make unreasonable demands.

sorry again behnam for interference Regards 211

behnam June 12th 2009 Dear Shawn X, How are you keeping? I hope everything is going well with you. Thank you very much for replying. I completely agree with you. I know nothing about such things, I just wanted to play a joke on Cathy, as a good excuse to force her to react? (loool) About my country Iran, there are many topics to write about. Please specify your question. I'll surely answer it as completely as I can. Dear Shawn X, I saw that you have written something about Winne. You have thanked him/her for his/her reply! I tried to see his/her writing or message in this thread, but there was nothing! How come? Did you mean that she/he has Emailed you? Anyway, it was a little bit confusing. In the past, the majority of people were farmers. As you know, farming is a very difficult job. Men often are stronger than women, from physical body point of view. They are created for farming(loooooooooooool). Therefore, families prefered boys to girls. I don't want to list all farming activities, because everybody knows them better than me. It is a fact that they people in the past prefered boys to girls, not only in your country, but also in all countries. Nowadays, the life has changed. Farming is doing with so many machines. In other words, farmers use many different machines. On the other hand, girls are so kind to their parents. In this dog eat dog world, people's first needs are love, kindness, friendship, affection, and tolerance rather than food. Who doubts or doesn't believe that women are the mine of those important things which I named? Women are the sources of love, kindness, affection, etc. There are many reasons for the fact that in the past, people often prefered boys to girls. Also, there are many reasons for the fact that almost in all countries, nowadays, there is no difference between them and people have no preference for boys and girls. Thank you for reading. I hope to read more writings from you soon. All the best, Behnam, 12 June, 2009

lauri June 12th 2009 Dear Sameer, Thanks for answering my question so in depth! I really appreciate it. I guess people from one cultures see things differently than those from other cultures. Peace, Lauri

behnam June 13th 2009 Dear Lauri, Thank you so much for putting message in this humble thread. Welcome! In my country, when someone tries to make some excuses to do some good actions, people often give them a sort of compliment in order to show that they are surprised. For example, imagine a person who was not in touch with their friend for months phones a friend and says,"...I am phoning to say you 'Happy Mother Day!...'" In this situation the person who is on the other side of the line often says, " Happy Mother Day to you too. I wish it was always Mother Day, and then I was able to hear your kind voice." It is not common, but some people give such compliments in order to show that they are surprised and they have expected to have that sooner. I am not sure whether this Persian based expression and compliment will work in this situation or not. I wish you always could not sleep soon, and then wrote in this place to entertain your mind! (=I wish I had your writing sooner, and I am very surprised by your writing). Spanish language is the second widely spoken language in the world. According to what some experts has said, after fifty years, it will be the first widely spoken language in the world. Therefore, you are one of the luckiest people, as far as most important languages are concerned.(loool) Well done! Your question is so good and a tricky one at the same time. First, it should be mentioned that I know nothing about such things. On the other hand, I am in no position to answer it. I only know a little bit Physics. I am going to write my own idea and way of thinking about your question. Short answer to your question: IN ISLAM, WOMEN ARE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT FROM BUSINESS

ACTIVITIES POINT OF VIEW. Your question is a good excuse to write something about women and men. In addition, your question is worth being dug much deeper.

First of all, we should know that in terms of Geography, your question is related to three parts of the world; Iran, Arab countries, and other countries particularly the world of west! Unfortunately, I have not been neither to Arab countries nor to most of western countries. Therefore, it is not good to judge about them. However, in my country (=Iran), women has been treated with respect from the begging of the history of human beings. Iranian people are Aryan. Our race is Aryan. If you like to know some facts about Iran and other races in the world, you should try to study history of human beings carefully. I am a Muslim, and I believe Islam. You should know that I have studied about other religions then I have chosen Islam. From Islam point of view, my friend Sameer has written some useful sentences. I hope that helps. Now, it is time to write my own idea about your question. Equality, and equality between men and women! What does it mean? 1. Men are different from women, and vice versa! They are just different. It does not mean that there is something wrong with them. Women are also different from men; it does not mean that there is something wrong with them. Do you believe that women and men are different from each other? Please pay a careful attention; we are not speaking about preference, or about who is better than other is. Being different does not necessary mean that one of them has got preference. Both women and men are human beings. 2. If you believe that women are different with men, you will maybe ask why. Well, God should answer this question!(LOOOL) However, we have brain, so we can think about it. I am sure that you know the reasons much better than me. If you do not believe in differences, just look at your mother and father, and then compare them!(lol). Please do not get upset. 3. It is a fact that women and men are different from each other. Therefore, do you believe that different creatures need different things? If you do not believe this fact, just ask from your mother and father about what they expect from each other. If you believe this fact, please read number four. 4. We need different things; therefore, we have to have different tools in order to be able to fulfill our desires and needs. God have given men and women different needs and then different tools. Our needs are different. Our tools are different. On top of that, our duties are different. Why? Well, it is the strategy of our God. God have got some aims of creating human beings, and the entire universe. 5. We need different things; we have different tools; we have different duties and

responsibilities. It means that we need different rights, therefore different policy. An important point should be made that when it comes to speaking about human beings and their rights, women and men are the same. They are two parts of a complete thing. When we put them next together, they become complete. In other words, they complement each other. 6. In Islam, there are only three jobs that women are not allowed to get them; to govern or to rule, to judge or to be a judge, and to fight(to take part in a war as a real killer, but it is okay to participate). We do not know why, but this is what God have said in the Holy Koran. Sometimes, we try to give some reasons about why God have not allowed women to have those jobs. Speaking about the reasons cases fighting with each other.(loool) 7. According to what I have heard, studied, known, seen, experienced, learnet, be thought, Women are sentimental and men are sage and wise. I know that using these words (sage, wise) will case a fight, but please do not get upset. Almost all women are easily affected by emotions such as love, sympathy, sadness etc. When it comes to judging fairly, governing in a justice way, and fighting with enemies, those characteristics do not work at all. 8. In order to prove that women are sentimental, western culture is a good example. In the western countries, according to what they claim, women and men have got the same opportunity to get those mentioned jobs. Let us count; how many women are judge, leader, and commander? There are as many as the number of fingers in a person's hands. How many women are dancer, singer, painter, nurse, cinema star, musician etc.? The number is mentionable in comparison with the former jobs! On top of that, how many physicists, mathematicians, and Nobel Prize winners are there in the western countries? Why? What are the reasons? This is what our friend Lauri should answer. 9. In Islam, from making money and business point of view, women have got much more freedom than men. It is men's duty to pay the expense of life. They can make money and save it for themselves. You will not believe if I say that women (I mean married women) can ask money for doing housework, even for feeding the child that they have given birth to it! 10. I am not a priest, although I sound like it. Islam is the first religion, which has considered women real human beings. According to what I have learnt from Islam, particularly from the Holy Koran, women are the cloths of men and vise versa. It means that they cover the weaknesses of each other. They make each other complete. It is not possible to think about living and life, without considering the rights of them fairly, not equality. Equality is meaningless. Dear Lauri, If you want to study about Islam, do not pay attention to what people say about it, do not pay attention to some countries, governments, people who pretend to be Muslim. There are many confusing things in the world of Islam. Some of them are because of our own misunderstanding. Some of them are because of the policy off other countries. Some of them are because of our laziness. Do not pay attention to the actions of people who say something, but do other things! Even do not pay attention to what

Behnam has written. Please, make time for studying about it. Islam is independent. We should know that Islam has not got any border. You are Muslim, even though you are living in the centre of the world of west; if we consider actions and deeds. Behnam is not , maybe, a real Muslim! Being Muslim is not just a name or an adjective to carry! Muslims must do according to what God have said in the Holy Koran. Dear Lauri, so many thanks for reading this writing. I have tried not to make you get upset. I hope you will not get upset. Please forgive me if used some strict structures. Please forgive me if I sounded like a priest. I hope my answer helps! Please do not hesitate to write in this thread. All the best, Behnam, 13 June, 2009

behnam June 13th 2009 Dear Lauri, I am terribly sorry for making many mistakes. There are two spelling mistakes. "...It is not possible to think about living and life without considering the rights of them fairly, not equally." The second spelling mistake is using "cases" rather than "causes" twice! I am not worried about making mistakes, but I am really worried about making people feel confused!(loool) I thought these mistakes may be confusing, or may make you confused! Therefore, I tried to correct them. In my learning strategy, making mistakes is an art!!! (LOOOL) Anyway,I hope you forgive me. All the best, Behnam, 13 June, 2009

behnam June 13th 2009 Dear Sameer, So many thanks for answering that question. Thank you for writing in this thread. Your answer is complete and clear. Thank you for sharing it with us. I respect you for two main reasons: 1. Firstly, I respect all human beings, and I have deep respect for people who write in this place.

2. Secondly, I respect you because you are a friend of my ex-friend. I am not sure whether you could get what I am saying or not. I hope you can get it, as I expect. It will be a great honour for me if you make friends, and keep in touch with me by writing in this humble thread, and through sharing some things with us about yourself and your country. Although there is no need to search for excuses to make friends, I think we have got enough things in common, which are good excuses for us to make friends with each other. How do you think? I am looking forward to hearing from you as soon as possible. All the best, Behnam, 13 June, 2009

mary June 14th 2009 Happy Woman's Day I hope all my female friends have a great day and enjoy their time with their families. And of course, it's Mother's day too, so Happy Mother's Day to all mothers in the world, especially my mom and I want to thank her for all she has done to me. Best wishes for all of them, Maryam

winnie li June 14th 2009 Hi Maryam, Thanks for your blessing. You know,Our mother's day is in second week of May in China which is different from your country. Some children make blessing cards to their mother ,or give a present ,or go out to have a dinnier household in this special day . Can you write more about what u do and greet Mother's Day? Best wishes and Hopefully can get your reply soon.

Best regards, Winnie

mary June 14th 2009 Hi Behnam, How are you? Is everything all right? I hope so and I hope you feel great and enjoy your time the best. Thank you for your long writing and sorry for being late in answering. You wrote that women are like the weather of spring. I think you, men, should thank God for it. As you know, variety is the spice of life. (LoooooL) So it's a good characteristic of women. Feel free, Behnam. I have taken the habit of reading your general ideas in your writings to me. But remember that it doesn't mean that you wrote very long to me. (LoooL) Thank you for answering to my question. In my idea, you answered it in a very clever way. I can't say anything about it. Oh, just one thing. If it had been necessary for you to know about women's strange behavior, for sure God would have let you know. By the way, there is a saying, "curiosity killed the cat." (LoooL) So be careful with what you want to know. Sometimes knowing something will get you in trouble like, the story of that man who wanted to know the language of animals, but after reaching his wish, he regretted. You are frank, Behnam and I think it's one of the reasons which make us to see you as a real friend. Thank you for being brave and frank. I regularly write on Fridays, don't I? :D Believe it or not, I really like to write more and read my friends writings every day, but it's really hard for me. I did it before and maybe in the future I will be able to. Ok, this time you give me an excuse to write about, but please give me a simple one. I'm not as experienced as you. I'm a beginner in writing. I've just read your writting to Lauri. It is really great as always. I really enjoy reading your writings, especially when you explain something. Thank you so much my friend. I look forward to reading more from you. Best regards, Maryam

mary June 14th 2009 Dear Araghi, How are you? I hope you be healthy, too and be happy. It was surprising to see your writing here again. Please make time to write something to us from time to time. I know that sometimes it's really hard, but there is always a way if we want. Let us use your knowledge and get advantages of it. Please share your ideas with us as before. Best wishes, Maryam

mary June 14th 2009 Hi Cathy, Thank you for hugging. I believe that it's one of the ways to transfer feelings well. Thank you for your compliment, but I don't cook when I'm at home. I just eat and sleep there and spend time with my family and friends, but here in Tehran I do it. If I don't, I will be hungry. :) I agree with you about cooking. I enjoy it, too. Of course, I must have enough time for it. I don't like to hurry. I hope one day, I be one of your friends whom you cook for. I'm sure your food tastes very good, because you do cooking with love. Let's hold a party and prepare some drinks and foods for our friends and have a good time together as we learn. I hope you have a good feeling in all you do. Good luck, Maryam 212 mary June 14th 2009 Hi Asal, Thank you for writing to me. Thanks for your nice words and compliment.

I like to read my friends' writings, so feel free and write whatever you like. Actually, it's an honor for me to be one of your friends. I think you know Sari well after living for four years, because it's not big. Which streets do you like the most? Do you have any friends there? And could you please tell me where you live now? Please share your ideas with us about the topics which we discuss. I hope to read more from you. Best wishes, Maryam

mary June 14th 2009 Dear Winnie, Thank you for reading my writing and answering to me. Thank you for making friend with me. You are completely right. It's Mother's Day in my country, but I just wanted to share it with my friends and thank all mothers around the world. In my country, we m