june 8th, 2007: we get letters

Cor er Page The Staff and Sword Ministry June 8, 2007

WE GET LETTERSHugs and Kisses -- Sticks and Stones

By : Chuck-JOHNEL

Herbert S. G. On July 18. 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL, In regards to MichaelBoldea's — The Eagle Vision of March 2006, I would interpret the snake with diagonal redand black stripes as two countries that are now considered friendly, such as Mexico andCanada, and in reality to only be waiting for an opportunity to strike. I interpret "diagonalstripes" as lies or lying.

I believe Michael's vision links with Dimitri's vision of America burning withMexicans causing civil strife in the South and illegal immigrants from Canada causingstrife in the Northern United States.

A second interpretation would be the snake with diagonal stripes would representnations such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, who supply the majority of our oil from the midEast, cutting off the oil. That would certainly hurt and paralyze us and hold us so thatsomething bigger could finish us off. Sincerely..." (Unquote)

Response by Chuck-JOHNEL_ I recently watched Miss U.S.A. in Mexico being booed bythe Mexican audience voicing their hatred for this nation. That Mexico will invade the U. S.with Red China is no surprise. They will sow and then reap as the Lord shewed me backin 1977 that Red China will turn on the Mexican nation and begin a program of systematicextermination to take-over their land and country from them. With the often hated US.destroyed all of Central and South America will be invaded by land hungry Chinese forceswho will murder them aplenty.

While Canada's government is `strange' the Canadian people are largely brethren inChrist and mostly like us as we like them. When war comes and the U.S. is invaded,Canada will also be invaded and their population will suffer as ours, kind in kind.

In znv experience it is usually the one who receives the vision that is in the best positionto understand and interpret it as they can ask the Lord for a deeper understanding and willreceive it. I do not believe Michael Boldea has done that as he has clearly declinedoffering his view of the vision so it remains open to speculation.

The Staff and Sword Ministry June 8, 2007

Response b > Chuck-JOHNEL (continued): However, your speculation is as good as anyone elses. God bless.

"Three-quarters of our population live in or near cities; the other quarter is onthe highway looking for the exit."

Dean B. on June 27, 2006. (Quote) "Dear Nancy-TONI and Chuck JOHNEL, Many,many thanks for all of your hard work, sharing the Lord's words to you and other prophets.I'm so grateful that the Lord has put me in the Net of Prayer.

I am praying daily and I apologize for not sending you a copy of my letter toPresident Bush regarding "sealing." I did write to him and received a nice letter and goodpicture of him from his department. I am disappointed that he didn't accept your offer. Amalso sad that he didn't call this nation to fast and pray. Your words and those of those theLord gave Richard-DANIEL have helped me understand from Heaven's view. I continueto pray for President Bush.

May the Lord richly bless you and give you wisdom and discernment, strength andgood health as you continue to be obedient to Him. Much love, Shalom." (Unquote)

One doesn't have a sense of humor. It has you. Larry GelbartI

Jeb R. On n o date) (Quote) "The Lord Bless you two! Question: It seems much of whatyou quote comes from the King James version of the Bible — is there a reason? I've alwaysbeen drawn to the KJV but was wondering if you have any input regarding Bible versions— what's the best, what is bad or if there really is a difference? I've heard much on thissubject — curious what you had to say -- Thanks." (Unquote)

Response by Chuck-JOHNEL: I have some resource information on this subject aroundhere but not able to locate it so I'm running on memory.

Back in the 197Q's in Chicago I encountered a group of Bible scholars (they read ancientHebrew and Greek like a second language) who had been investigating the then new Bibletranslations (New Jerusalem, etc.)that were becoming quite popular throughout theChurch.

I, for one, had been led by the Holy Spirit to stick with the King James Version of theBible. More, Ifound it to be excellent in a study of God's Word and equally important tome, it was an open doorway to a direct personal relationship with Jesus and through Himwith Father God.

While I had a Revised Standard Bible, Living Bible and an Amplified Bible which Ireferred to for clarification of some parts of the King James version - my mainstay


Response by Chuck-JOH11EL (continued): remained the King James version as this isthe way the HOLY SPIRIT clearly led me.

When I shared this Holy Spirit leading with these Bible scholars (1970's) they told mesomething quite alarming.

The King James version of the Bible is based on a Hebrew text and Greek text that isancient. In fact, this group of scholars had one of the original "Greek texts " (hundreds ofyears old) and were involved in a twenty year study project involving the Greek text whichis the foundation . for the New Testament interpretation we know as the King James version.

Tampering with the Foundation oldie Bible

What these scholars told me at that time was well past worrisome, it was alarming.

They pointed out that when the Dead Sea Scrolls were put together they ended with a_fullHebrew text of the Book of Ezekiel that was thousands of years old. When compared tothe modern day King James version of the Book of Ezekiel, they found only TWOCHANGES which involved the re-location of two words "and" and "the " - more, thesetwo changes were actual improvements in their estimation. Otherwise, the Book of Ezekielhad remained intact and unchanged from copying to copying for thousands of years. Thatalone was amazing but the Hebrews who did this were 100% faithful to God's Word inhow they kept true to His Word.

With this as a background they told me the "troubling part. "

Again the basis of the Bible we have are the Hebrew and Greek texts that have been passeddown to us for eons.

The new translations of the Bible that have spread throughout the Church are based ona NEW Updated Greek text - re-written by Bible scholars. The King James version is theonly version circulating in the Church that remains based on the ancient and unchangedGreek text.

In examining the original Greek text with the new revised/improved Greek text these Biblescholars told me that while they found some helpful imp rovements they found manydisturbing changes that plainly alarmed them.

The Gospel of Matthew - when I met these Bible scholars (1970'c) they had completed athorough examination of the Gospel of Matthew, comparing the OLD Greek text with theNew revised/improved Greek text. They found that there had been 700+ changes in the


Response by Chuck-JOHNEL (continued): Gospel of Matthew alone.

700+ Changes to the Gospel of Matthew !!!While these Bible scholars told me that many of the changes were true improvements intheir estimation, that would make the Gospel of Matthew easier to understand by theeveryday Church goer - some changes were very troubling. They also noted that seeing700+ changes was in itself alarming given that the Book of Ezekiel remained virtuallyunchanged for thousands of years except for the location of two words.

The New Greek text had eliminated the mention of JESUS as God 's Son, the virgin birthwas deleted in many parts, the Blood of Jesus was deleted - on and on they detailedchanges that touched on the very substance of the Bible itself.

All Seminaries that taught upcoming Ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ were beingeducated from the New Greek text. Ever y new interpretation of the Bible was based on this"New Greek text."

The Divinity of JESUS CHRIST as GOD'S SON had been modified and in placesobliterated.

I have some paperwork around here that details the changes and they are more thantroubling - Satan got to the foundation of our Bible through evil men disguised as Biblescholars.

This is why I stay with the King James version. I always tell brethren that it is ok to havesome of these other translations, but do not base any serious study of God's Word on them- learn to refer to the King James version alone.

The vast majority of Christians are wholly unaware of this.

Love may be blind, but jealousy sees too much.

Bob and Donna A. On July 22. 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL, ...Question: Isit possible that the "Pres. George Bush" the Lord spoke to you about being president at the

accidental nuking of USA could be the current president's nephew, "George Bush"??? If

so, this would add years to the current end time event schedule!?" (Unquote)

Reply b y JOHNEL: While I was unaware (in 1989) that President George H. Bush, the

elder, had a son named George - I'm equally unaware (now aware) that George W. has

a nephew named George. But is he in politics, is he running for President??


Response by Chuck-JOHNEL (continued : While it is remotely possible that this nephewmight become the next President (another President George Bush) - it appears to beremote.

If you take a look at what is developing in this world with Iran - how Iran is spreadingmurder and mayhem into Lebanon and into the Palestinian areas to say nothing of the factthat Iran is fully responsible for the death of 85% of all Americans killed in Iraq andAfghanistan and is working massively at break neck speed to build atomic weapons - it isperhaps more difficult to imagine that we have another 4-8 years before troubles reachclimax.

It is NOT that I have any stock in judgment nor am I disinterested in seeing judgmentsdeferred/delayed - nonetheIess, the over-all landscape tells a very different picture.

For example: One of the proving points for me) to KNOWING that this judgment is very,very close to hitting full farce was the WA TCH TIMES on the count o '220 da ys (pointingof March 28-30) and then 67 days later to "Greater Events " (June 2-7). I've beenconsistent in watching and reporting what has developed since 2004 (starting withEconomic judgment) to the most recent final episode, the "Greater Event" of June 2-7,2007.

More recently we have seen a surge of quake activity under Mammoth Lakes, Californiawhere the Corma is p ressing upwards. The earthquakes are quite strongrangingfrom 2.0to 3.4 magnitude happening almost every hour of every day, That kind of quake activityis usually called "harmonic tremors " which reflect the movement of Magma deep in theearth (Magma is molten rock that is flowing underground). However, Magma usuallytriggers very small shakers (1.0 to 1.8 magnitude) - these are quite large for "harmonictremors" revealing that the pressure is intense, strong and getting stronger.

There are a multitude of other developing troubles that paint one picture: the judgmentis getting stronger by the hour and serious explosions are not far off. Earth movementsusually develop over a period of months and years; but we have observed the effect of theMarch 28'x', 2007 surge of Corrna in wild weather that swept the U.S. and has not stoppedfrom then to now.

Even a very conservative estimation of the present circumstances would lead to oneconclusion - time is very short! Again, I'm not opposed to a delay in judgment or moretime but at present I see no such possibility the way things are going.

When you go into court, you are putting your fate into the hands of twelvepeople who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty. Norm Crosby


Kathryn R. On Ai gust k 2006. (Quote) "Dear Nancy-TONI, Thanks for tapereplacements. Thank you for all of the teachings, guidance, newsletters, and prayeroperations. This is all I have. I have no Church fellowship and I don't feel alone becauseof the Net of Prayer. I enjoy working with a group and serving God." (Unquote)

Comment by JOHNEL: We are quite pleased to have you with us in prayer andsupplications. God bless.

Still as of old, men by themselves are priced — For thirty pieces Judas soldhimself, not Christ. Hester H. Cholmodeley

Don B. On (no date) (Quote) "CJ: If I have understood right it looks like the 3 yearperiod right before the invasion has a good chance of taking place in 2008.

This would put the invasion in 2010. Occupation would be over in 2017?If there is an earthquake in L.A. this fall will this confirm the above dates or when

will this confirmation take place or is it too soon to tell? Really appreciate all of you.Thanks for your faithfulness to Jesus and to us." (Unquote)

Reply by JOHNEL: The timing structure we have in view is what you understand in part.The "monster Midwest earthquake" is believed to happen in 2010 and the invasion would

follow in 37 days after the "monster quake. " However, from the time of the invasion (letssay it is 2010) the U.S. will amass a new army to drive the Russians out in the second year(that would be 2011); however, that would fail and gradually the U.S. would be over runby Russian, Chinese, Japanese and various allied armies. The U.S. would fall somewherein the year 2012 following this time line. Occupation would start at that time (2012) andend in 2019.

Thefi-agility of timing is a fundamental part of the picture. Remember. JESUS plainly toldme this on January 2, 1989:

JESUS' WORD of January 2, 1989: "I WILL NOT REVEAL THE TIMING.JUDGMENT NOW WILL BE THREE TIMES GREATER; IT WILL COMESUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING."

Why is JESUS so adamant? Over the years, culminating in 1989, the Church has hotlyrejected JESUS' Word, resisted His call to repent and pray and lastly the church "bound"the prophets from knowing or speaking timing.

In earlier years I've seen , first hand just how angry and hateful brethren get when youprophesy something and it happens at the time you prophesy. The reaction is "hatred " andtheir behavior is nothing short of vile and reprehensible.


Reply by JOHNEL,- You can ask why brethren act this way, but let it suffice (as this is aninvolved thing) to say that "they do that. " Their behavior brought JESUS to say what Hesaid in 1989 (see previous page).

What JESUS has given us are sequences in which judgment events will surface. Part of ourwork has been to pin point key "starting points" and "key judgment events " to look forwhich when they happen tell us that we are headed into serious judgments.

Isee that what JESUS has done has laid down a `faith requirement " that only those whodiscern His Word and who believe His Word will recognize what is happening and get outof the way. Those who have to "see"to believe, who are carnal minded and bound by theirintellect - these are walking dead in our midst.

Middle age is when you've met so many people that every new person youmeet reminds you of someone else.

Don C. On July 23, 2006 . (Quote) "Hello Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-TONI — PraiseGod and Jesus for their Presence and Power and Excellence in our lives. Thank you foryour continuing ministry-encouragement-teachings to us in/with Jesus' unconditionalLove. I am most thankful for this and being part of the Net of Prayer.

As I am writing this, there are still 333,000 customers (1 million plus people) of theelectric company without power. Last week was, and still is, a very trying time for many— 2 major storms in 2 days, in the St. Louis area.

Praise the Lord Jesus! God's covering, protection, and provision is totally sufficient.The major effects of the storms went around us (as others have done). We were out ofelectricity twice, but only for 7 and 11 hours. A large tree in our backyard blew over — nodamage to anything else. Our emergency supplies helped us out.

A Holy Spirit: The ongoing troubles here in St. Louis are a microcosm of what iscoming on this whole country. The only place to be is in Christ Jesus. Thank you FatherGod for all of your answers to our prayers — before, during, and after the storms of life.Much love to you because of Jesus." (Unquote)

Comment by C-J: Over the years we have seen how those who make and set aside"emergency preparations " (food, water, batteries, etc.) find how helpful it is to have themwhen troubles arise.

No one tests the river with both feet. African proverb

Rachel R. On August 2 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JGHNEL and Nancy-TONI,Greetings in Jesus' name! When I see the weather map of the US and it is all RED (90's-100's) except for your area, your little corner of the map (70's), there is no explanation


Rachel R. On August 2, 2006. (Quote continued) needed. Jesus knows you don't likethe heat, and it thrills my heart to see him protect you the way He does! Enclosed is mytithe — be blessed! In Christ. (I eagerly await your next newsletter and what Jesus is sayingregarding war in Middle East.) (Unquote)

C-J: Thank you for your letter. My tomato plants, corn, cucumbers, etc. like it hot, so Ihave to compromise at this time of year. God bless.

The chain is no stronger than its weakest link.

Candice (Isabelle) on (no date) (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-TONI, Justa small letter of encouragement. Years ago my relationship with Jesus started off in theSpirit. But as I tried following the desires that were in me: wanting to be taught and led bythe Holy Spirit, I started to do things (I thought) (self) Christians do, attending differentchurches, etc. ...Had some bad experiences also some good. Meaning the experiencesbrought me to where I am today. (All things work out for the good)!

My point is if it wasn't for JOHNEL's calling on his life with the Net of Prayer, Iput God on a shelf for years at different times, really never understood things always tryingto figure out things.

But all the Prayers from 82 with the Net of Prayer — doing Spiritual battle (warfare)which broke that demon presence over me and many others to where I'm having arelationship now. I am able to receive whom I am in Christ! Thank you Jesus!!

These "Go and Receive" Prayers (In the Spirit) and the Point of No Return. I amable to receive now clearer then I've ever had.

And again thanks JOI NEL for all the prayers you sought God for and yourobedience also. I'm sure you didn't always understand but (knowing this was His Will).

Thank you, Father God, for sending JOHNEL on our behalf. Thanks for setting usfree! God Bless." (Unquote)

C-J: Al! Praise and Glory to GOD THE FATHER through JESUS CHRIST! Amen!

There is nothing certain in a man's life but that he must lose it. Owen Meredith

Bill and Kath y S. On July 21, 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-TCNI,Thank you again for having us being involved in the Net of Prayer group. I know we don'talways give "at-a-boys!" like we should or "good jobs!" or "well done!" Even thensometimes they seem like a whisper, compared to the "oh no's" we get that seem to cancelout at a ratio of 1000 to 1. Plus 1000 (plus) "at-a- boys" and 1 "oh no" equals= zero. Sadto say it! The way things seem to go, this is reality! How soon we forget the good andfocus on the not so good. But "thanks be to God who causes us to triumph in Christ Jesus"we forgive and go on. (2 Cor 2:14)


Bill and Kath y S. On July 21, 2006. (Quote continued) I wrote to President Bush againand I feel sooner and hopefully not later he will contact you. It may take more letters, moretime and more KAOS, but trust me, he'll be boxed in a corner and either come out fightingrenewed with the Lord, or be shut down completely. All we can pray is that the Lord openhis heart and reveal — it's time for some serious united prayer in these United States.

I admire your patience, your longsuffering (both of you -- with both of thesequalities.) It is never easy giving true reports from God and fairy-tale prophecies being inthe air. "Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you fromtheir company, and shall reproach you and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of Man'ssake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy : for, behold, your reward is great in Heaven:for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets" (Luke 6:22 &23) We love you.P.S. Keep going and going..." (Unquote)

C-J: Thank you for the encouragement and your letter. God bless.

Compliments cost nothing, yet many pay dear for them.

Alicia N. On September 15 2006. (Quote)". . .Also, I read the "we get letters" and wasabsolutely thrilled to read your comment about America the New Israel etc. Gene and Ihave been enlightened about that for many, many years but have been so grieved by thewhole misconception about Israel. I saw recently that there are three groups of people: (1)the non-Christians whom many are God-haters, (2) the mainline Christians who areclueless about really loving the Lord and being in His Presence and will reject anyonewhom the Lord really sends. . but the thing which breaks my heart now is (3) thewonderful groups of Christians who are outside of religiosity and have been pursuingintimacy and being the Bride of Christ. ..just loving the Lord etc. ..the whole Israel thingis infiltrating these groups all over the place and they are majorly being distracted from theLord's purpose for them. ..it is an evil distraction." (Unquote)

C-J.• Amen!

The function of freedom is to free somebody else. Toni Morrison

Dennis J. On no date . (Quote) "Dear Chuck-3CHNEL: Thanks for the efforts that youand others put into producing the Fellowship Meeting tapes. The tapes are a blessing tome. You teach so many things that I do not hear elsewhere and I enjoy hearing yourstories!

On the May 28, 2006 tapes you discussed the meaning of Romans 13. I too believethat the standard church teaching on this Chapter is incorrect. I would appreciate hearingyour opinion on the following reading of Romans 13:

In Romans 13:1 the Greek word that is translated to "powers" (exousiais) in the KJV


Dennis J. On (no date). (Quote continued) is defined as "it is permissible, allowed.Permission, authority, right, liberty, power to do something" (from The Complete WordStudy Bible and The Complete Word Study Dictionary: New Testament). This same Greekword is translated "liberty" in I Cor 8:9.

If we substitute "liberty" for "powers" in Rom 13:1, it takes on a very differentmeaning. Could the author be talking about the power to choose to do what is right? Inother words to live by the law that God has written on our hearts. Could this be the perfectlaw of liberty that James talks about? Could Romans 13 be talking about the Kingdom ofGod that Jesus said is at hand and which is in us? This is where we choose to be under thedominion of God and live according to His laws written on our hearts.

Is this the same thing that Moses taught Israel? This is where every man did whatwas right in his own eyes (Judges 21:25) and Israel had a prosperous society without acentral government for 400 years. When Israel told Samuel they wanted a king, God toldSamuel that they were rejecting Him, not Samuel (1 Sam 8:7). Was God saying that thepeople did not want to live by the law of God in their hearts but they instead wanted a manor civil government to tell them how to live?

In conclusion, could the confusion about Romans 13 be caused by a poor translationof the word exousiais and possibly other Greek words?

Thank you for your faithful service to our Lord Jesus Christ. God Bless." (Unquote)

Reply by Chuck-JOHNEL: The insight was given to me by the Holy Spirit not by man'steaching/understanding which is known. But the problem is not so much a `poortranslation" as it is the carnality of man and how easily men are led by their own flesh.Nancy-TONI wrote an excellent insight into the meaning of `flesh " in the last Newsletterand it points out the problem.

Yes, men ought be ruled by God's dominion by His Spirit but until God's people are whollyand truly yielded to Gods Spirit and Lordship in their lives the carnal man poses asignificant problem. When men are ruled by their carnality/flesh they are imperfect in theextreme. A Perfect translation of God's Word cannot be perfectly implemented byimpel feet people (carnal/fleshy).

When will God's people be truly free of the carnal nature/flesh? Only when they havecome to the place of being crucified with Christ, of dying to self to the place where theybegin to manifest Christ within themselves.

Remember the Apostle Peter (I Peter 2:16) and the Apostle Paul (Romans 6) also warnedagainst using the freedom we have in Christ as an excuse to sin or satisfy the lusts of theflesh. This is where the seat of the trouble is at, not in the translation. Once led by theSpirit of God the meaning of God's Word is not hidden but is apparent to those walkingin the Spirit.


Reply by Chuck-JOHNEL (continued): Now ask the tough question - "When will wemanifest Christ and what is it like? " The willingness to die to self the continual day by dayabiding in Christ seeking to be found in His Perfect Will in our life will lead to aforetasteof walking "in The Spirit. "However-, when we actually manifest Christ is in God's Handsnot ours - we can only be steadfast in being ready, willing and seeking.

What is it like? JESUS is the example - He did NOTHING except the Father GOD shewedHim. That is what we attain to be like.

It is cheering to see that the rats are still around — the ship is not sinking.Eric Hoffer

Jo S. On (no date1 (Quote)"Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-TONI: The newsletter andletters you get have been a great help, as the past years have been very busy, andtroublesome. Since joining the Net of Prayer attacks from the enemy on this family,children, and even grandchildren have been so numerous to count. I have thought ofcounting the cost, my experience has been to trust in Him, His blessings always exceed thecost.

...At times I ask myself, can I continue to risk family to attacks from the enemy?Is my thinking off base? Each individual is responsible for their decisions, and actions.

I am near 80 years of age, am extremely healthy, when I recall the way I wasintroduced to your calling by a friend who gave me your book, I read and put it aside forsome years only to turn on the radio one day and hear you on the Prophecy Club. I orderedyour tapes, and newsletter. It was then I knew to join the Net of Prayer. That along withyour newsletters, Nancy-TONI's teachings have been such a blessing to me. To know themany hours you spend in obedience, it seems a small part for me to just be obedient topray.

At the present time I am recovering from major surgery, recovery is slow, I may notbe able to participate fully but am determined to be active in every phase of prayer.

I know our green pastures are found in the Father's arms, trusting Him in all things.I pray every day for your health and strength to continue His work. I am so blessed to bea part of the answered prayers, to see and know His faithfulness." (Unquote)

Comment by Chuck-JOHNEL: With the new Hedge about all of us the enemy attacks willcease. If not drop us a line. Thank you for your prayer ful service in the Net of Prayer - wehave all been blessed to see the powerful and awesome answers to prayerfrom Father Godthrough Jesus Christ.

Perhaps the best thing about the future is that it comes just one day at a time.

Kurt J. On October 2 2046. (Quote) "I was reading the Staff and the Sword, the book my


Kurt J. On October 2, 2006. (Quote continued) Dad has, and on page 66 at the lastparagraph it says the charismatic movement in America is being swayed by a newmovement call discipleship, This discipleship is when a local elder, also called a shepherd,is the doorway to heaven. My friend who is an associate pastor of my church told me hewould like to start a discipleship between us and he would help me to minister to the publicto bring people to Christ. And I told him what your book prophesied, what would happenin the future, this discipleship you talked about. I also told him that I believe in Christ, thatHe would save me not man. Then I made a decision to meet with and listen to him butknowing in me that he was not my savior but Christ only." (Unquote)

Comment by Chuck-JOHIVEL: The discipleship movement I saw years ago was likelydesigned to get a handle on people's carnal nature by applying outward authority over

their activities and involvements. Problem was that this became dictatorial to wherepeople were being governed in minute detail - you could not buy a TV without approvalof the elder, you could not have sex with your wife/husband without the approval of theelder — it got way out of hand.

The trouble with the whole concept was that it aimed to quench the carnal nature byoutward control when the only way it really works is where we go inwardly to Christwithin (abiding) and learn to lovingly yield to Him and allow Him to change us fromwithin to without. Kurt, I'm kind of curious as to how the talk went. Maybe later. Godbless.

A handful of common sense is worth a bushel of learning. SPANISH PROVERB

Jan C. On October 4, 2006. (Quote) "Dear Nancy-TONI and Chuck-JOHNEL, ...Arethe South Pacific Islands a safe place to be when the full judgments hit America? I knowsomeone who's going there and Ijust wondered. If I had the money I might consider goingthere. (I Love the ocean). What do you discern on this? Remember the movie SouthPacific? I'd always wanted to visit those Islands. I'm NOT talking about Hawaii either. I'mhoping you will take the time to write me back and let me know what you discern. Thankyou." (Unquote)

Chuck-JONNEL: The only true safe place to he in is Christ, abiding in Him, looking toHim and trusting Him to lead you every step of the way through life.

When the judgments hit America in frill the whole wo rld is going up in flames - NuclearWorld War1111 Wind currents will carry radiation fallout everywhere on the planet. I don 'tknow of any safe place other than being in Christ and seeking to be where He wants me/usto be. However, a vacation to the Pacific afyou can afford it) sounds like fun. God bless.


True courage is like a kite; a contrary wind raises it higher. J. Petit-Senn

Mama Kay G. On October 8, 2006. (Quote) "My dearest friends, Greetings in the Namethat is above every name, Jesus Christ — Yahushua ha Mashiac. The Lord reminded me thismorning that I had not returned the Response Form, and I said, "Oh no Lord, where is it?"And He graciously directed me to it! ! ! Yeah God! ?!

As I read the "We Get Letters", and I heard the cry of the heart of my sister abouthaving struggles praying for the Muslim people, my heart broke for her and I feltcompelled to share an experience that I had recently

I was praying and seeking the Lord regarding anything in my life that was notpleasing to Him. He said to me, "You do not love enough." My heart wrenched, and Iasked, "What do you mean, Lord?" He answered, "When you truly love someone, youcan't wait to see them and hear their voice. You long to have them near you, and tospend time with them." "Yes, Lord," I said. "That is right." He said, "Well, there aresome of My people, your brothers and sisters, that you do not want to be bothered

with. It's not that they are your enemies, or even that they have done wrong to you

in someway, but they have some issues that you do not want to deal with. If you

cannot love these, My people, your brothers and sisters, how are you going to be able

to obey Me and love your enemies?"My heart ached, and I repented of my attitude and feelings, but I am still struggling

with those feelings regarding the people that the Lord was talking about. It is not that Idislike them, but my flesh does not want to deal with their stuff. I have been seeking theLord to fill me with unconditional love for these people. The Lord reminded me at thistime about a conversation I had with a sister in the Lord. She was struggling with a certainyoung woman in our church. They seemed to come into conflict on a daily basis. Thissister said to me, "Well, some people just have personality conflicts." I said, "Yes, you'reright." As I was leaving to go home, the Lord said, "NO!" I said, "What?" He said, "No,that is not right! If you have a problem with someone, you need to get down on yourface before me until you don't have a problem any more."

Lord, Papa God, please help us to love all people with Your love. Help us to see allpeople through Your eyes. Help us not to be respecters of persons. Fill us all with Yourlove, Your mercy, Your compassion, and Your forgiveness, so that when we reach out toothers — "They may know You! They may live and not die!" (Unquote)

C-J: Thank you Mamma Kay for sharing something of merit and value to all.

The future is history to God, for He is omniscient.

Jesus C. On October I8, 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-TONI, Hopeboth of you are doing well and healthy. The following is a small dream of mine thatoccurred on the night of October 17, 2006, between the hours of 3:30 AM and 4:00 AM.


Jesus C. On October 18. 2006. (Quote continued) In the dream, my father is taking careof my three-month old daughter, Angelinee. My father cannot seem to find her. Hefrantically begins to look for her everywhere . By this point he is very nervous, finally weare in a place where a group of some beings I could not identify (I cannot see faces andeverything is the color gray), are gathered together by an open pit pork roasting. On onecorner of the pit, I see my daughter, Angelinee, beginning to be burned. I pull her out ofthe pit and place her on my lap. After this moment, I see myself pulling out my sword, veryupset, and ready to start killing everything around me when avoice suddenly speaks to meand tells me "Put the sword away, they are trying to provoke you and get occasionagainst you and/or the Net of Prayer" (cannot remember exactly). It also told me theLord, Jesus Christ, will take care of her. This marked the end of my dream. I think this wasan attack to get grounds or occasions against me and The Net of Prayer. Depending on howI reacted. Please confirm if you can and share with me any comments on your part."(Unquote)

Reply by Chuck-JOHNEL: The enemy of our souls is always looking for some angle tolaunch an attack on all of us. Since we are now inside the Hedge their opportunity is nowmuch diminished. Nonetheless, hidden sin in our midst can offer the enemy some occasionwhich is why we pray daily to address that possibility.

While we have authority to defend ourselves if attacked, we cannot go on a rampageaiming to destroy demons (that is what you were dealing with in the dream) without aclear direction of the HOLY SPIRIT and/or JESUS CHRIST Your dream was quite real.

The world at its worst needs the church at its best.

Elaine C. On October 2 5, 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck and Nancy,.. There is a controlsystem in our church which is keeping me from hearing the word of God directly and willnot accept prophets. Steven Jones in his booklet, "Hearing God's Voice" says it is a curseplaced on the church under the anointing of Pentecost, upon all who would obtain spiritualfood directly from God or trusted prophets of God without first checking it out with theapproval of Church leadership who administered the traditions of men, rather than the lawof God. This has created a famine of hearing the word of God. Every church I know seemsto have this problem.

See Amos 8:11...and Rev.2:6 Paul and the Lord hated it.Can this curse be lifted and how could it be done? This sounds to me like it requires

prayer by a group of people. I'm afraid to tackle it alone. Could the Net of Prayer help?"(Unquote)

JOHNEL's RESPONSE: As to the question of lifting the curse: this falls under theheading of something the church has done operating in Christ's empowerment to "bind


JQHNEL's RESPONSE (continued): and loose. " In that JESUS gave His church theright and power to do such things, to set such rules - even though they run against whatis His Perfect Will He Permits it. It cannot be broken by prayer as it has to do with the freewill decisions/choices of His people.

At very best (an excellent option) one can pray fora HOLY SPIRIT Revival in the church,but anything more than this can run contrary to the free will choices God's people make.God will not overturn their free will, even if it's a wrong decision.

However, consider this Scripture: "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying,Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive notof her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered heriniquities. " (Revelation 18: 4-5)

He who takes the child by the hand takes the mother by the heart.GERMAN PROVERB

Timeka M. On October 31. 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL, ...I might plan tomove to the East coast (Philadelphia, PA) and was wondering since judgment is presentif the Lord has shown you the future of that area?" (Unquote)

Reph' by Chuck-JOHNEL: During the 30 day journey to Washington, D. C. in 1977 theLord JESUS revealed that Russia would attack Philadelphia with a neutron bomb whichis designed to kill all living things by an intense burst of radiation but that also leaves allstructures intact and untouched. Both Cliff and I saw visions of that aftermath: the citystreets filled the bodies of the dead, dead everywhere in houses and out, in cars andeverywhere. Russia will want Philadelphia for a supply port city and wants all theinfrastructure intact.

Your best warning will be news (you will feel it in Philadelphia) ofthe monster earthquakelaying waste Chicago and the Midwest - some 36 days AFTER that horrificc event Russiaand Red China will launch an all out nuclear attack on the U.S. Don 't be in Philadelphia.Pray to know where you need be at that time.

We can make our plans, but the Lord determines our steps. PROVERBS 16:9

Gladys K. On November 3.2006. (Quote) "Dear Christian friends, Learned a lot in depthabout the "armour of God." We need to wear it everyday.

Our Lord provides so much for us that we never take advantage of.Thank you for praying for us. I think of you all, love you and pray for you daily,"

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The Staff and Sword Ministry June l7, 2007

The person who looks up to God rarely looks down on people.

Edwin and Charleen F. On November 8, 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL, I justwant to tell you thanks. I have learned more of the love of Jesus Christ in your newslettersin the past five years then I learned in 60 years in Church. Something is wrong and Ibelieve it starts with pastors. (But) not in all cases - I've seen congregations revolt whenthe pastor was right and said it in love. Your Lord's General Jim-RAPHAEL Grandon hasshed a lot of light in his newsletters." (Unquote)

C-J: Thank you for your kind words. God bless.

Never worry about your heart until it stops beating.

l n D. On November 10, 2006. (Quote) "Chuck and Nancy: I prayed about yourshoulder and health situation, Chuck, but was really grieved to hear that actions in the NOPhad brought this about. Questions: Was this a result of general actions in the NOP or somevengeful, intentional action by an individual(s)? How can we pray against these sameattacks in the future?

We are close to bidding goodbye to 2006 and getting much closer to really periIoustiimles. I find that serious Christians I know of are undergoing more and more troubles. Asfor me and my family the attacks in the last 2 years have been fierce and grow more so bythe months. Without Jesus as our anchor we would certainly have already been sweptaway. May God continue to bless and keep you!" (Unquote)

Chuck-JOHNEL reply: Someone (now formerly) in the NOP became a conduit for anattack on me by the enemy. In the early years of the Ministry work I was woundedfrequently and often by an endless array of attacks. The enemy tried to kill me time andtime again but failed. However, wounding accumulated and on December 18, 1984 Idiedof heart failure mostly due to excess work, no rest and too much stress. My Godl y wife(then a mystery woman) intervened and stopped me in The Spirit'; JESUS backed her up.She told me: "Your work is not done! "I told hei 'ou know the ru 7e. If youare not here in a Season of time I will go home! " JESUS told her to listen tome, and so I was sent back. Nancy- TONI showed on the scene inside of that Season (byOctober of 1985). I've been on borrowed time ever .since.

For a variety of reasons I 'm especially vulnerable to attacks by those I know or those whoare close to me. This now former NOP intercessor was someone close to me.

The source of the attack was a pastor who JESUS defined as a son of Satan. This manseduced this NOP intercessor who became a launching pad .for an attack on my health.The enemy aimed to cripple or kill and succeeded only in inflicting a lot ofpain. The intent


Chuck--JOHNEL reply (continued): of the enemy was to prevent/stop the launching ofthe N.O.P. Prayer Operation into Islam. It was set in motion regardless of the attack.

The enemy has no power to kill me and has only gotten opportunity to inflict pain andtroubles through human vessels. However, years ago JESUStold me that Iwould be killedin His service. I have come to realize that it will likely happen by these kind of attacks thatwill only succeed when my work is finished and it is time to go home.

Thank you for your concern and prayers. God bless.

A child is a thing that stands between an adult and a television set.

Nancy R. On November 11, 2006. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JGHNEL and Nancy-TCNI,Yesterday I visited with a couple who for 10 years have worked among the Shiite Muslimsin Lebanon. It was exciting hearing how God is moving, especially in light of our prayercampaign.

One thing, in particular, they shared is the following. Several years ago, ifthey heardof one or two reports of Jesus visiting an Arab Muslim in their dreams in a year's time, itwas remarkable. Now, they hear weekl y of such visitations and whole families are comingto Christ.

Further, in an unnamed Middle East country at an Iraqi refugee camp, workers areliterally being bombarded with questions about Jesus and faith and requests for Bibles.God is sovereignly stirring up nations, especially among the Shiite.

The woman of this couple shared a vision with us she had some time ago. Later, aMuslim woman shared the same vision with the woman with an added detail: they saw a

tsunami wave crashing over Asia and the Middle East. As the Muslim woman saw it, shewas running to escape and then realized her family was behind her and turned to savethem. The woman reporting this understands it as God's wave of salvation coming to thatpart of the world and bringing whole families in.

Glory to God!Thank you for your work, your persistence, your example. Since I can remember

(I'm now 65) I have desired for something (or someone) I could give my all to. Now Iunderstand this was Jesus stirring in me to lay down my life and completely surrender toHim. Through Jesus in you two, I not only have an example of how to but an avenue ofexpression - prayer. Need I say, this means more than I know how to put into words. Thankyou.P.S. The couple are greatly encouraged to hear of our prayer campaign." (Unquote)

C-J: Thank you for sharing this wonderful news. God bless.

It's better to be faithful than famous. Theodore Roosevelt


Special _Note: Leith Lopez selects the quotes following each letter. Leithalso transcribes all the "We Get Letters" and I (C-J) write the responses.

Helen S do Novernber22, 2006. (Quote)"DearJOHNEL, Subject: James 5:16. "Confessyour faults one another and pray one to another that you may be healed." I've confessed,many times but wonder if it's always a strict obligation to do so? At times is it just enoughto just tell it to the Lord? I'd love to have your evaluation on this subject of `confession.I pray for your rest and health." (Unquote)

JOHNEL Rel y: If you are so blessed to have a "confessor "with whom your confessionsremain between you, them and God - that is wonderfur. if you have a personal relationshipwith Jesus Himself, you can also confess to Him directly as well - that is most wonderfuland blessed. Thank you for your prayers. God bless.

Flattery is like chewing gum — enjoy it briefly, but don't swallow it.

Alan D. On October 19, 2006. (Quote) "Comments/Questions:1. For the watch dates of October 7` h and 13`h there obviously was no significant LAearthquake. Does this mean it is definite for 2007 or where do we stand on this?2. The Hawaii earthquake of Sunday, October 1 S`'' at 6.7 Richter with aftershock 6.0 wascertainly significant in size and the attention it got (yet without fatalities and few injuries).Where does this fit in the pattern?3. I have read in your writings that Iraq will ultimately be divided 3 ways to settle theconflicts. On Wednesday, October 18 h , Senator Kay Hutchinson made the statement, "Iraqshould be divided up for stability." (Fox News) The seed is planted!" (Unquote)

Repay by JOHNEL : A "Watch Date " is just that - we are watching for the start of events.Years ago JESUS stated that, "CALIFORNIA IS FIRST IN THE BEGINNING OFTHE BEGINNING." Based on quake patterns observed since 1979, the f rst quake eventshould strike in southern California, LOS ANGELES in particular. It is also possible tohit northern California, SAN FRANCISCO in particular. Because of church decisions overthe years we are left with a 100°%o certainty that JESUS will NOT reveal the timing of thisjudgment. Thus we can only "watch and wait "for the start of a known judgment pattern,patterns observed and recorded over the years since 1977.

I "believe" the beginning earthquake will strike this year, 2007. However, it is alsopossible it can strike as late as 2008. Again, this is why we are reduced to "watching andwaiting. "

Recent developments tell me that strong earth events are not far off in time; but even inthese observations we have not yet seen the "beginning of the beginning. "


Reply by JOHNEL (continued): On Hawaii: Back in 1979 we saw a pattern of quakeactivity that involved Hawaii which also conformed to JESUS' Word about Hawaii beingshaken by quakes in this judgment. That this quake struck on October 15th , 2006 issignificant because that is one of the date JESUS gave back in 1979. However, it is not a"beginning " event only a part of a much larger judgment picture.

It was JES US who back in 1990 said that in the end Iraq would be broken up into differentparts. God bless.

Hatred stirs up quarrels, but love covers all offenses. Proverbs 10:12

Mr. Phil R. On November 2. 2006 . (Quote) "Hi JOHNEL, A) In Matt. 6:33...We areinstructed to seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness ... and in Matt. 6:10..."Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven..." and in Matt. 13:44-46 the kingdom of heaven was described like a treasure hidden in a field, and in Matt.4:23 Jesus went about ... preaching the good news of the kingdom, and in Matt. 4:17..."repent for the kingdom of heaven is near. , ." and in Acts 1:3, Jesus, after His resurrectionspoke about the kingdom of God.

This is not entirely clear to me contrasted with what Jesus said in Luke 17: 20, 21where He stated "the kingdom of God is within you." If we are to seek the kingdom of God(Re: Matt. 6:33) and in Matt. 4:23 where Jesus preached the good news of the kingdom,and in Acts 1:3 where He spoke about the kingdom. ..now how can all this be within me?(Re: Luke 17: 20, 21) How can "Your kingdom come" if it is already within me? Is therea difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Heaven?I think the interpretation of Rom. 10:17 is partially debatable in that "word" is rhema orlogos. Jesus has only spoken to me audibly 4 times in my life.. .but if that was all I had tostrengthen my faith, my faith would be stretched thin across all this amount of time. Mostof my faith in the last 40 years has come from the logos words. . .and I agree withyou...faith and the word of God are inseparable. Any comments? Thanks so much for allthat you and TONI have done and are doing!! Warm regards." (Unquote)

JOHNEL's Reps: When we abide in Christ we are "seeking the Kingdom of'God " whichis an action taken wholly `In. The Spirit.'

Now the Kingdom of Heaven is a distinct place whereas the Kingdom of'God is a spiritualstate within - the two are different.

The inward dimensions of our spirit in Christ is boundless. In the years I abided in Christin and out of prayer and reading Scripture I experienced first-hand just what this"Kingdom of God" is.

The Staff and Sword Ministry June 1 8, 2007JOHNEL's Reply (continued1: While hearing God audibly is wonderful, the Rhema Worddoes not necessarily have to be an audible word of God - it more often comes as animpartation by the Spirit of God as we abide in Him, JESUS CHRIST.

Abiding in Christ is communion with God on a direct level, God's heart touches you andyou touch His, it is intimacy in the richest most wonderful possible sense but it is whollybeyond the carnal senses.

No God, no peace; know God, know peace.

John and Sandl? H. On Christmas . (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-TONI,God bless you during this wonderful season of reflection of the Lord Jesus' Birth. I amconstantly encouraged by the cassette tapes of the meetings and the newsletters themselves.May the Lord bless you and keep you, may the Lord make His face shine upon you. Maythe Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace. May He strengthen yourspirits to fight the battle and give you more wisdom. But most of all may you know Hislove and presence in a deeper way. Thank you for letting God use you to build up the bodyof Christ and help us grow and also to defeat the enemy." (Unquote).

To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research.

Ina Dean B. On Christmas . (Quote) "I thank my God daily for you, your special wordsfrom the Lord that you share with us and your faithful obedience to Him." (Unquote).

Don't be irreplaceable. If you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted.

Ruby and Leo S. On Christmas. (Quote) "Thanks so much for all you and Chuck do -The prayer campaign was outstanding — so grateful that you allow God to use you in sucha way." (Unquote).

Never test the depths of the water with both feet.

Patricia P. On October 26, 2006 . (Quote) "Chuck...I was told by Heaven to tell you thatthe demons which accompany Stan Johnson and his ministry are afraid of the Fire ofHeaven you carry in your mantle (i.e., the "anointing"). The anointing upon your ministryis frightening to those of other ministries, who do not operate in the same level ofanointing. In addition, Jesus said to tell you that "He is going to require Stan's life." Hesaid to me, "Tell this to Chuck for Me." (Unquote).

If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of car payments.

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