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July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae U M «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot aaaa aa« faoaa bar*. X kapa tkat tka auatbar af aav faoaa will iaoraaaa aa taa atruggla gataara nana* tun, baoausa X faal oartaia aa taa atrurcla p\thara aamataa la aautk Africa and Afrioa aa a vaala i t auat alaa hara aa affaot aa taa antrapalia. la tegXaa* partioularly ana taa l*lta« Statna aa vail aa la aurapa far taa wnrla ta-daj la af a piaoa. X m *aia« ta talk ta—aay abavt taa plaaa af iaparlallaa aa va aaa tbaa an* V ara gains *• oall vpaa yau ta 4a anaattaine abavt taaaa plaaa* Taaaa af yau vac aava fallavad olanaly taa dayalnpaoat la Rhateaia, vkam Zlababwa lo atrut&lla*; *• *>• barm« amat bam drawn oartaia oaaoluaiana. Xt aaa baotao olaarar ta ua that Baaaaala aaa baoaaa taa iraaa raaaaraal far taa draaa tkat la gnlae ta taica plaoa ia Sautk Africa. It la far taaaa raaaava that aa thlak tkat va aatat talk ta yvu about taaaa aattara, baoauaa va aaall nan* yaur kalp, no* yaur partiolpatlaa la taa atruft>la taat la aanad mt ua, far aur atrtigcla ia la fact ymvs atrucgl*. Vav taa first talac va vaat ta aatabliak, aa* X tain.:, it ia generally known ta paapla In England, la tkat aautk Africa la racardad by laparlaUaa aa taa aaat important onuntry la Africa. Tola la aat naly baoauaa Sautk Africa la taa aaat kiekly laduatrlalland oauatry, but It la a atratagto onuanay, It la af atrata«lo inpertunoa la varlaua way a. X aa aat aaraly U«1B£ tkat tora aav la rolatlaa ta taa war, taa atrategy la war, but alaa peli Woolly. Sautk Afrioa la tka key ta vaat nlgkt kappas la tka future) la fact, tka battlaa af laparlaUaa ara geiag ta ba feu*kt an the aall af aautk Africa* Oaoa Baalbia la aver aa4 aaoa Zinbabwe ia avar taa werld la gala*; ta ba bang up agelaat Sautk Afrioa aud Ucutb Africa la lapertaat ta laparlaUaa. laparlaUaa uaAarataate vklokavar way aautk Afrioa taaa will tetania* tka balaaoe af pa war aa tka varld aoana. If tka Sautk Afrioa* etru^-la akauld euooaee and aautk Africa la vroaokee aut af tka arbit af laperieUaau tkaa laparlaUaa kae aat M* Aw pi anly leet 3autk Afrioa but taat will ba tka baffinal** af M*kimmj*\ /Africa aa a vaala*

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Page 1: July 1978. · July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae UM «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

July 1978. M o n t e

Follav « * n « r t , Ionia a aaa g n t l M M . I t l a a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat

aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae U M «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

aaaa aa« faoaa bar* . X kapa tkat tka auatbar a f aav faoaa w i l l iaoraaaa

aa taa atruggla gataara nana* tun, baoausa X faal oartaia aa taa atrurcla

p\thara aamataa la aautk Africa and Afrioa aa a vaala i t auat alaa hara

aa affaot aa taa antrapalia. l a tegXaa* partioularly ana taa l*lta« Statna

aa v a i l aa la aurapa far taa wnrla ta-daj l a af a piaoa. X m *aia« ta

talk ta—aay abavt taa plaaa af iaparlal laa aa va aaa tbaa an* V ara gains *• oa l l vpaa yau ta 4a anaattaine abavt taaaa plaaa* Taaaa af yau vac aava fallavad olanaly taa dayalnpaoat l a Rhateaia, vkam Zlababwa l o

atrut&lla*; *• *>• barm« amat bam drawn oartaia oaaoluaiana. Xt aaa

baotao olaarar ta ua that Baaaaala aaa baoaaa taa iraaa raaaaraal far taa

draaa tkat la gnlae ta taica plaoa ia Sautk Africa. I t l a far taaaa

raaaava that aa thlak tkat va aatat talk ta yvu about taaaa aattara,

baoauaa va aaall nan* yaur kalp, no* yaur partiolpatlaa l a taa atruft>la

taat l a aanad mt ua, far aur atrtigcla ia l a fact ymvs atrucgl*. Vav taa

f i r s t talac va vaat ta aatabliak, aa* X tain.:, i t i a generally known ta

paapla In England, la tkat aautk Africa l a racardad by laparlaUaa aa

taa aaat important onuntry la Africa. Tola la aat naly baoauaa Sautk

Africa la taa aaat kiekly laduatrlalland oauatry, but I t l a a atratagto onuanay, I t l a af atrata«lo inpertunoa la varlaua way a. X aa aat aaraly

U«1B£ tkat tora aav l a rolatlaa ta taa war, taa atrategy la war, but

alaa pe l i Woolly. Sautk Afrioa la tka key ta vaat nlgkt kappas la tka future) la fact, tka battlaa af laparlaUaa ara geiag ta ba feu*kt an

the aal l af aautk Africa* Oaoa Baalbia la aver aa4 aaoa Zinbabwe ia

avar taa werld la gala*; ta ba bang up agelaat Sautk Afrioa aud Ucutb

Africa l a lapertaat ta laparlaUaa. laparlaUaa uaAarataate vklokavar

way aautk Afrioa taaa will tetania* tka balaaoe af pa war aa tka varld

aoana. If tka Sautk Afrioa* etru^-la akauld euooaee and aautk Africa

l a vroaokee aut af tka arbit af laperieUaau tkaa laparlaUaa kae aat M* Aw pi

anly l e e t 3autk Afrioa but taat wil l ba tka baffinal** af M*kimmj*\ /Africa aa a vaala* •

Page 2: July 1978. · July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae UM «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

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t o"**** to l«avo ca/thln •

Afrioa ax a wbola. To put i t oaataar »ay# I f taa .ovoiutiaaary i»tr*,xlo

aaaulo f a l l la aaata Afrloa« laparlal laa a l l * o»«u«w to aaao oaataar

Xaaaa •? U f e la taa oaatlaaat of aflr4a%»aa toat taaao U taa iaport

to ofenaoa. I t l a goto* to a w t - t f i i « » f « * , . to aava to iafluonoo taa aavalapaaat la that oouatry. i t a.<ta alraaoy d***^, ^

i t s awn plcaa* aaa 1 ua 0»la« ta attaapt aaro to talis about taoao

pluaa aa as aaa taaa. r ^ r r i i W s a t * Oouta 4ft lOa~f iaporoaat to

atuna l a taat taa aooaaay af *uta i fr loa i s taa prapart/ af 3u£laas,

Aaorioi aaa par t i / af taa surapaaa oouatrioo. Taa soars i^i. oour.try aro tao fiuardi-iaa

af taa praparV af laparlal laa la ;>outh Afrioa .- « far taio raj

tJMf aaa aat „*iac to reralt atgrbatfy to faol arausa s l t a taat prspartj*

3s»oto aaa aaava taat taa ol« oaaptor Isolsaaa la Jautt Afrlaa aaa

a aaa oaaptar la apania* u^. Taa dr l t i sa *as ara taa al4 aoloalal • a

paaar ATO ajtport la raasla*- U s v r i t l a s « • taa wail, taa/ uaaaratsaa aaat la aatpauiaa:* Taa/ kaav taat Varwaar* - I rm asrrjr #• v l l l

• sxouaa aa i f 1 aa/ Varaaara, taat aarjta ay a.*. Z ftava faii^ht agalnat

faraaora a l l ay U f a aaa 1 far, at atoaut taa l i t tin as« aaa- taat aaa

M M a a n * t^t**, •**rt aa aaa l a faot iatro-tvoas aatala*; sow. Hs has

s i a p l j taaaa-aaSrvaat Varaaara plaaaac* as l j jrtitttfm that l a to

affoot, aoo»osr» Taa palat 1 ** aft*lu«; i n , taat taa/ ...*•• Tors tor

aaa pla/sa a l l alo oaraa* Ha Has a t aatalne l o f t . A g»»«rnaoat

l a ordar to *aT»ra aaat at laaat prataaa taat i t ^avoraa b. oaaaaat.

Zt la art af aavaraaaat to alaa l t a atrsafa K W W N . -vorjftas/ knows

taat tao ssvsraaoat la poworful* Z4>

taa o x t w t af i*otrasy t a * r * ^ la uaaasva, ua poo*lo ara frigatoaas. But .auto Afrlaa aaa i'uunn

i t a a l f l a tola poalUoa taat I t naa*jfc»ooT-mjmA&Sm siiT, ft

l a s tar * j svarjsaa ma aaa asar / ta lac taat taajr au*a<'tsit« 'is-say toi»

/paaltlan aaa boon,

Page 3: July 1978. · July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae UM «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

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j ee t i ea hni boea ahewn it.*eir la 9evete. Hhea Ua yeuagatere, the klda

went out nd bared ttaoir oheate and aald 'ehect i f ;reu v i l l i We are net

£elag W l i v e aa pnriahu an eiavoB in eur aim Ian*.' Tale *y** *****

there la nothing olee l e f t , >aay k i « rt attar ve>yeiiJ>*St^Xj niVhTi\;.

e l j e l e f t fa*- thaa egaeyt aha nhaallnj, ffweVtala aaaae tna end of a

j orind aM i t alec aeiaa the beginning af a aav etage la the atru,^la.

The iaperlal lcto ur,«iarat*ad thia very vo l l aad el nee taej hare allawed

Vera»ar ta ajaaaa1 their pre^erty far -all theee year* the way * * ^ h # * V * * 1 /

new-ilB Uae ftUaj Uugaji W aaau imd th*y are aat geiBg te^eeparaiaa f*****^

net «iily taeir preperty* but the whale af the balaaoe af paver inter-

natienally*

HfeapaJi e f i e j atfi^liea la i•naval» thia ia at atpwe/. laj.-erlaliea <*W ^x*f

aunt save.. .'.aat- i-4 -it i alriL' t» *•? —****" *» "•** v o prapaaa to t vU about t»-ni,:*t. *lrat ve aav vhat they did in Rhedeela. Let

ao juet put i t i a a fev verda. Tbe free da a flgatore in Raodeala mv

vinniiift tfca var, :asd I t vent ea v e l l f unt i l KiBjia/er oaae ea the

•ooio. I f te-day ve are in a aeaa la dhedeela taee» are the keye that

were laid eevn by KiBelabor vat., be oaae ea U the aoene, ^iuain,par

vent ta Tare*?, va are taldi aad ve believe i t * We aave ne raaaaa

ta eiebellevn i t , Ea vent ta Taratar v i ta three rejerte . Oaa fraa

the C.X.A., ana fraa tea *VB«I« aad ana fraa a iUtary la te l l lgeaoe

and put theee bofere Terater, vhe read tfaea, aad qulokly pulled eut hie

aaa fraa B.O.3.3. aad ha pot thaa ea the table, aad a l l the reperte

a^reetf ea aaa thine that 3aith haaa*t a ohaaoa af atnalae the var.

The anly differeaoe aaan^at the* vae the quae t ie a af t lae 9 —am add

l a elghteaa aenths, aaaa put i t a l i t t l e longer, but thay vara agreed

that ha auat l eae . Oaoe that vaa olaar Jtleaiagar began ta aav*.

la? er io l i ea boc'j- ta aaaa. Thay had ta etep the calamity that thay

aaa* Far thaa there l a aaa thia* that i c clear* that ia lapertaat,

independence ym» Thay are wi l l ing ta l e t thaa have iadepeadeaoe,

but ladapaadaaoa auat aat be grabbed by feroe af ajraa. I t auat ba

granted ta a colony. Therefore, the oelony a t i l l oenUnuea te

/raaala uadar a nev

Page 4: July 1978. · July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae UM «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

4. r i u i i ua*ar a nav naaa but rulad from oloovhoro, la attar var*a,

aoo-oolomlallan l a aatabllaho*. oroforo, thoy oan ruia that oouatry

by manipulating tha ooanamy af that oountry, I f thay ohoao to,

mamlpulata taa ana/. fh ia thoy oan ta on* *a oanily, I f inoopanaanco

la grant** aav* If ln*opon*anoo l a vronoho* fron than thoy laaa t

aat ami/ oontrol af tha country, but thay laaa tha proporty baeauaa

tha paapla tnka back thalr oauatry an* a l l that la la I t . thalr aim

praparty* Tbia la vhat thay ara r»t galng ta paralt ta happen la

South Afrloiw Aa va havo oeon In Tthaloala, vhat aa thay 4a* Kloalnger

rteoldoA, at laaat laporiallaa ^eoltfa*, that thla coning calamity

auat ba atoppa* at a l l ooete. Thay tadda* thay ahaul* havo negotiation*

la Kbedeola; peaceful negotiations, but anoa thlo decision vaa taken

I t vaa a queetlsn af division af labour, PJIJ artiaalng Jaba ta different

paaplo. I t become tha duty of Yereter ta a l t an Salth ta bring hla

ta tha table an* alnoa tha erganiaatleae that ara fighting are i n tha

tarrltary af tha African oeur.trtee, African oauntrlao ha* W be van

avar ta tha idea af paaoaful negotiation* Onoa thay ara van ever

thay veul* ba oo l l e* upan ta brln? ta tha tabla for negetiatiea tha

aeveeeate that ara In thalr t err i tor i e s , aa i t vant an. <im* today va

arc i n thla aaaa* an* aa a moul t af that s p l i t s be^aa, thla vay ana

that nay, ana tha i n i t i a t i v e ahifte* fraa tha gueri l la f ig* tore ta

3nlth vha ha* l e s t tha i n i t i a t i v e up U that paint, on* than apl l ta

bo,.an ta take plaoa an* a l l aarta af things begtw ta happen* lau

fcnav u l l about than aa 1 *on*t noa* ta apan* Una avar thla. but vhat

Z an oenlng ta l a that vhan Vercter Rat hlnaalf engage* In thaao

negotlationa, pwt io ipato* In a l l thla. i t wasn't far tha lava af

aeelng an ln*apan*ant black atato an hla bar*ar but ha vaa eetablleslng

a prooa*ant booauaa ha knew that af tar Zlababva i t* a bang up agalnet

South Africa an* ha ha* ta propara hlnaalf* Ha alaa knev that

imperialism la not going to al lav hla to play about any vara booauaa

i n aa far aa laparlol laa la oonoorno* Yaratar la leading tha oauntry

Into an abyaa* Ha knev thla vaa alaa coming* Plana voro than maset

/an* vhat ara tho plana?

Page 5: July 1978. · July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae UM «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

5. and what are the plana? Y© rater . new that 1.* la , ein,, te ba aalled upon

to oeae ta a negotiating table a cett leaont . *i.t before va go any

further l e t va take this ana thins, lat*a sake na aiataJte, In South

Africa va wil l not ever, bo allowed the etatue af naa• oalanlallaa) &a

In athar countries. Ir riauth *fric* I t Is , »ln#: ta ba a clear-cut

t; in, . Klthar the revolution wina outright or I t fa l l a outright.

There la na queetien there af a aajorlty rulo that wauld be allowed

by leperlalicm 3e even taocc negotiation* are net te be negotiations

en the baele of one -asn ene vet?, i t i s joine te be negotiation* en

the baele ef the polloy af the ?antuetena« These ere the plana.

3«ae e f you wi l l ear he* oan thr.t t o , after a l l , laperi al ien hae

rebooted tbc "ar.tustar.a, .*norlee. c>es net reoegclee ".atanftlem an*

All rurepe *ee« net reeefinine HatnrfiiBe* Ve aunt vnderatand thla.

The chief country that la the heat e f i sper ia l i ee , the D«9*A«, la i n

a b i t ef a quandary at thla aeacnt, I t la net epj-eeed te Pantuatana

en principle, Anerioa lo frroe?' by the event* In Aaarloe, i t s e l f .

The black nan in *nerica today hoa booeuo a factor in the pe l l t loa

of the country. Konoe 7011 eoe today -r tndroit Tevng holrflnc the

i coit ion that he dees. A blaoh oan hca beoone a faeter, and the Bentu-

atane are ee bl&tar.t, an4 ee ucly and so unacceptable that Aaerloe,

dare rot aooept i t ne i t i o . vhn% have they dene? A deolalon we

beliovo hao already been tekon that Ye rotor has te eesaetlae the

Bontuatan policy* They oannet £Ot r id ef I t and they have no Intention

e f t-ettlng rid ef i t , but i t hen to be 00see t l sod in order that I t aay

be acceptable te the world. There are varleue trin 1 taey eon Ae te

oeeaotiee theae* Onn ir broadly epeaklne, and 1 only mention one

variant* Yerotor wi l l oentlnue te ,;ive the *•—oallea lndependenoo te

these I'antuctone and then any they have te ferat a federation, a South

African federation, with a l l the vnrleve ^antuctnna, the Celeured-oVwio

and the Indlanetane and ef oeuree the b ig Vhlte a tan, that*a South

Afrioa l tae l f , white South Africa. There w i l l be a federation! and at

too top they wi l l create a oabinet or a council, whatever you ca l l I t ,

ee that the ateeseo free the black atena w i l l aeot v i ta heada ef tho

/white etan, but thla w i l l

Page 6: July 1978. · July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae UM «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

white stun, but th i s wi l l b« a cabinet »r a council which dan^lce i n the

air* I t i s net a federation in the neraal sense where the supreme

pever r e s t s v i ta tfas tsp» with tee s tates below i t * That cabinet wi l l

be seaetalng that tangles in the air ana w i l l have as rif;ht to i n t e r ­

fere i n the internal natters e f the Independent s tates ana i t has to be

ss 9 otherwise esse bloc* people wauls* have to be interfering in the

affaire e f white 3euth Africa, an intolerable aituatien, ee tale oannet

hop] en. The/ wi l l have a gran* eoaeao, a g lori f ied federation e f etates ,

ana i t night be called a 3outh African federation, vaatever you ca l l

i t , -nil th i s w i l l be presented te the v e r i t i e s l e going to say frea

afar that the peeple ef Seutk Afrioa have ne right to fern a federation

e f tholr evn varieus osuntriss together was oan say thl29 this wi l l bo

acoepted, you have a grand structure cal led a federation ef South Afrioa

and then they wi l l etart to negotiate en this bas is , negotiate the

pes i t l sn e f the blaoa aan en the baal* ef the Bantu-tan. Then they w i l l

soy that everybody has a l l that they want - the blacks havo Independence

They are talking as Independent s tate* i n th i s federation. leu w i l l

s t i i l have jour Hsntuetane, but l e t us say in advance, that to talk

about what they oa l l heaelands as s ta t s s , and to talk ubout what thoy

give as ineepoaoenoe, i a the greatsst hoax e f the century, in fact

i t 1 J a grotesque hoax* First l e t ' e oal l the Usntuatane what t..cy are-

the reeewe lr s e f oheap labour. The whale policy e f the Uontustan i s

a rat ional isat ion, a perfection, a aW-oaaliran*- ef a *yate;i of forced

labour, that's a l l that the Aaatuotane VN «nd the Bantujtan pelioy i s .

The figures alone wi l l t e l l you a story. Thirteen peroent ef the land

e f South Afrioa i s to be occupied by £6£ of the papulation, -nd thoy

obese tho woret parte of South .'ifrio* beoauca 75$ ef t h i t lyf. i s

e i ther badly eroded, seuntaineue and h i l l / und only <Sv i c &r«ble land,

to soke quite sure that ne Bontuatuu oan survive, no fhntuutor. can

even have the seablanoe e l independence, lac V.vti. of the natter i s

that 50St» i f net aero, ef tho black, peeplo wi l l alw-'-ys bo in v/hito

South Afrioa and they w i l l el v ays i-euain there for the *ih%>le reason

that i t I s physically ispesoible for then to go and occupy those l i t t l e

/enolaves, but what wi l l have.••••#••

Page 7: July 1978. · July 1978. Monte Follav «*n«rt, Ionia a aaa gntlMM. It la a «raat plaaaura far aa ta aaat aaa* faoaa X kaa-v aaa 1 kava Kan** a laae UM «aft I M gloa alaa ta anot

7. enclaves, but what w i l l have happenee" l a , that every blaok man who la there

la nevdn a foreign land and ka Uvea there by permission, aa he dees new,

und the government e f Seutk Afriea wi l l then be under ne obligation te

aupply olTlo f a c i l i t i e s far the blaok pepulatlen l iv ing there, beeause

these are foreigners. They are under ne obligation te provide eduoat-

lenal f a c i l i t i e s , medical f a c i l i t i e s , and the reat ef the f u o i l i t i e c

that every c i t izen la ent i t l ed te* Beoauae, aa the? wi l l cay, theae

aaenltlea they oan find in their various countries, but 8euth Afrloa

w i l l oentlnue te have the labeur that i t hae always had frea the

peeple l iv ing there and the peeple i n the rdsorves, vhat they oa l l

Bantustana. Onoe we have aett led vhat the Bantustana are, ene ve have

already given a picture ef tao plan, the federation, then yeu w i l l *ee

that everybedy w i l l be sat i s f i ed , beoauae the blsoko have their right

i n their evn territory and the labeur systoa s t i l l continues as before,

that the labour reorultlng ohannela oentlnue to work faster and faator.

Yeu v i l l have your grand structure but the land question, the land

hunger, has not been solved* At the same t lao the pref l to that aooruo

fres ferood labeur oentlnue for iwperialiea for they are the great

investors in South Afrloa* They v i l l be sat i s f ied t ee , He cannot

think of any ether ray that imperialism w i l l approaoh thia question.

All they have to do ia to sake tola plan acceptable. One© th i s i s

dene the f irot thing they v i l l da l a to Internationalise the struggle

inside South Afrloa* They w i l l take i t te the ifaitod Vationa and

they v i l l say •He cannot allow the present e v i l systoa ef South Afrloa

te oentlnue, ve oust give the blaok man h is r ights in the land e f h i s

birth* He must tborefere save bloodshed and in ardor to save blood­

shed ve aust s e t t l e this matter saioably through discussion* • This

v i l l bo taken to the United l o t i o n s . Who in the U.K. i s going to

oppose th i s vague and general phraseology, th i s vague torn* ITebedy

wants bloodshed, so they a l l amy •Ja.ja*. Then fres there i t w i l l be

taken to the 0.v.U. end the 0*A*U* wi l l sine have to oay yea. I say

here 'have to* for 2 reasons. The O.A.I, in the f i ro t plaoe i o

bound by l t a own Lusaka manifests, which deoreee that Afrloc oust

/ f i r s t explore a l l means *

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a. f i r s t s c l e r a a l l Man* af a peaceful ssttlaaent* and enly fa l l ing th i s

ahall tasy al lev the blaok paapla t s ga anA fight far their righta. 3a

thay ara bsunA by th i s aanlfaate, but they ara beund by saasthlng a lee .

Beaidee, f i ra t «a auat ba quite olaar an ana thing, anA l a t ' s nat ba

ssntiaantal abaut thsss aattara, va haws ta admit that fraa Afrioa ia

far fraa bain* fraa anA that vase i t oasss ta quaatlana that ara fund-

aasntal to iapsr ia l iaa Afrioa w i l l nat ba given a veioe. Tau already

hava an sxaaplsa* anA a olaar axaapls af tha aituatiaa. Take tha t . ; .

i tee If . There yau hava a l l tha oauntrisa af tas werlA asMIng an an

equal fast ing, as oalleA, tha aaallaat oeuntry, any banana republic

haa tas saaa vate aa tas OniteA atataa ar Russia* every oauntry has

an aqual right ta spssk thara anA thay a l l epaak anA tasy a l l vats*

They are psralttsA ta veto an a l l ssoaaAary quaatlana* but an tha

baaio quaatians that affect imparlall aa f ire atatos anly hare a aayi

that l a , tha aaourity Oaunoll* Tasy AsoiAs ths iaauaa, a l l tha bas i s

i s suss that affeot tha Uvea s f tha paapla, ara AsolAaA by thass. Tha

rast oan talk anA rata as suoh aa thay l ika but vbsn i t oasss ta

Aaoiaiana thay have ne right to apeak* 31i>oo 3auth Afrioa ia part anA

parosl af ths baaio quaatians anA i s net a saoanAary quaatisa ta

iaperial ioa, 3auth Afrioa thsrafara f a l l s sn ths aide s f baaio quaatians*

anA ta bs treated aa suoh* In ether verAa, even i f they talk* tas

Asalslsna w i l l bs taksn by tha big pevere. 3aaa w i l l aay 'Tea, yau oan

say that but what sbaut Hues!a? Hil l Russia a l l s * tale? After a l l yau

hava aaan evidence af thia quastisn that Ruusia Asoa oaaa lata i t . Did

nat Ruaala help ths freeAea f ighters in a l l ether sauntriaa i a Afrioa?

DiAn«t Russia help i n Angsla? Didn't Russia help i n aaoaablquaT* Tas

i t Aid, bat than thia vas nat 3auta Afrioa. thia vaa Juet Afrioa ia

General. ' Sauth Afrioa la speci f ic anA haa a specif ic weight i n i n t e r -

natlanal affaire anA has a spsaLflo weight i n ths ralatiaa af faroaa*

werld ra la t i sa af faroaa* anA far that raasan ne thing wil l bs allswsA

ta interfere thara. There la alas anethar raasan why yau Aa nat hava

ta oanaiaar Ruaaia i n thia sphere, baosuaa thsaa deoiaiena hava been

/taken within ths frsasaark* *

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taken within the framework of international detente between the super povoru,

and what dees this detente aoun, oenorotely* Detente simply moons an

o*;reeuent as to the division of the spheres of influenoo in the world <ind

between the super powers, and what was this decision? Concretely i t aeans

that Russia has been permit ted by imperialism to do whatever i t chooses

with the countries in Eastern Europe, in sxaaple of th i s wi l l i l lu s t ra te

t h i s . Russia, as you Know, at one tine invaded Hungary* There was a l e t

of noise but nothing happened, and then i t invaded CheosSlovakia* During

that period Ruoola anassed a tremendous amount of i t s aray en the s o i l of

Suropo because Ckooeslevakia i s Europe* Re such thing was possible

without tho agreement and connivance of America, England and Burepe* l t*a

inconceivable that Russia en i t s own could simply oeme and amass such

a big force, military force, en the s o i l of Kurepe and be allowed to get

away with i t* I t*s inconceivable but because i t took place, under the

framework of the detente, Russia knew she would be allowed to do so* Per

a long time we wondered, since in these matters there i s the question of

the quid pro que* What i e Russia going to give? At one time I used to

think, i s i t Cuba, and we thought, no, i t ' s net possible , i t has new

beoeme d e a r , i t* a net Cuba* Ruasia had to give en the one queetien

which i s basic to imperialism and that i s South Afrioa* Russia has to

acknowledge that South Africa i s part of Europe en the Continent of Afrioa

and therefore, th i s i s a sphere of Europe and Russia must net interfere

and for this reason there l a going to be no question of Russia doing what

i t did in Angela and meoambique. There l a an agreement en both aides en

th i s question* In the f i r s t place, Russia would net r i sk breaking the

detente over South Africa, i t ' s toe far from i t to be worthwhile, so the

detente i n general, the world detente ia far mere important to Rueaia than

South Africa* South Afrioa la v i t a l to imperialism, therefore, between

them there i s an understanding and once there i s this agreement you must

also understand, there iu agreement at the top and i t gees right down*

All these countries that are the c l i en t s t a t s s of the super powers must

take their varisua posit ions and a l l of them have to agree with th i s so

there we are faced with a s i tuation. Once the agreement i e taken i t

/gees right sewn****** *

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goes right down net only through Europe, but down te tke s e l l e f Africa

beoauee Africa must participate in th i s . They nee* i t , after a l l . The

freedom fighters are en the s o i l e f Africa and th i s can e n l / be dene

with the aosiatanoe er with their oenivanoe i f they wen*t a s s i s t . Onoe

we oese to this we hare te ask the question whether Africa i s in a

pet i t ion te say no, alse the various organisations are en the s e l l e f

Africa under the governments ef theae terr i tor ies . Are the asveaents

i n a pes i t i en to say no, when they are being pushed by these countries

te go and negotiate, are they? l.e they are not! Squally, are the

African countries net in any peait ien te aay no te imperialism when

ioperialiem preoues them te agree te th i s plan for negotiation? Our

struggle I s faced with the gravest ef dangers. What do we propose te

de? Tale ve want te put before yuu. He want te put th i s before the

populations ef the werld| before the people of England, before the

people ef iiurepe, America, everybody, the population, that i s , those

organisations that are net connected with the establishment, these

organisations that are Independent ef the establishment. I t i s snly

they and they alone that we can turn to. What we ask for i s the

formation of support oemmlttoss everywhere, support oomaltteee te

the nevemonta i n South Africa that are f ighting for l iberat ion. No

are asking for th i s reason, we are ashing you te give us an opport­

unity te haws an independent peaitien so that we can think indepen­

dently, f ight independently, and f ight our batt los Independent ef

s ta te s , independent ef super powers, snd therefore independent ef

the s a t e l l i t e s ef the super powers. This i s what we are asking e f

the populations ef England, since I am in England I should say ef the

people ef England form your support oemaittees and giro us the

opportunity JO that we are free from being dependent upon s tates ,

beoauee no state i s Independent ef the super powers. The s tates in

Africa are net independent ef super powers. Whatever decision i s

taken up there has te be carried out, therefore we have to be freed

from dependence en aupor powers er theae powers depending en super

powers. This i s what we ask y u for and f iratthing i f you form your

/committees and these o o n m l t t e e e . . . . . . . .

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oauaittasa and taoae oaaaittaaa auat tkooaolvoa bo indapondant af tko

satabl i skaant . I f yau 4a farn tkasa oaaaittaaa, ana of tka planka ar

tfca p lat fora i s f i r s t , Br i ta in out af Sautk Africa, au l t i -nat iona la aut

a f 3outk Afrioa, banlui aut af Sautk Afrioa, on* vkan tko ohlpa axo down

nat a aingla ao ld ior , Br i t lakar , akaOd* l a v s tka ok.ro a af Br i ta in ta

0a and f i g k t an tka otkar v i sa and tkla oan ba tens i f tka paapla af

Angland unlta tkaaaalwaa i n oaaaittaaa and by o o a a l t t o o s ^ l don't aaan

when I say support oaaaittaaa 1 don't Moan a ainglo organisation turning:

i t s o l f Inta an organiaatian r a i s i n g funds to giva ta tka paapla inaido

Sauth Africa* X aaan tka organisat ions i n angland aa orgonisationa

auot farm tkaaa ooauittaaa tagatkar ana glva tka aupjort tkat t k o / g iva

ta tka f ight ing paapla inaido Sauth Afrioa. Bara again far ua tk la

idaa l a aara pa tan t tkan appaara an tka aurfaoa. Firat «a aa/ glva ua

indapandanoa aa dapandano*. Kaon / a u fara /aur oaaaittaaa

you* ara attaoaad ta tka paapla i n Soutk Afrioa vka ara f lgkt lng far

indopandanoa. Tka f l r a t thing tka oaaaittaaa ara going ta aak i a what

oart a f lnaapanaanoa? Indaj ondonoo far whoa? Onoa / a u axanlna tka

quaatlan tkan yau bagln ta r a a l l a a vka tka anaay i a . Tau aw* i n an/

atruggla tka aaat d i f f i c u l t t a i n * far tka opproaaad paapla l a ta

idont i fy tka anaay, tka roal anaay. I f tka / oould nobody would ba

appraaaad today and nabaa/ v a u l t ba oxploitod today. Tka raaaan way

va ara a t l l l appraaaad and a t i l l oxploitod i a baoauaa tka papulatlan

findu I t d i f f i c u l t ta idanUfy tka anaay. Raw througk tka a/aa af tka

paapla inalda Sautk Afrioa vkan yau ara supporting tkat atrugglo yau

v i l l aaan f ind aut i t i a nat tka boars, i t i s ns t Vorstor. Tka bsara

by taonaalvoa oould nat aanaga ta kaap tkat Taat papulation undar tkalr

hoola ta now- I t oouldn' t . Tkarafara aaaabody olao auat ba propping

up tkat rog lao . Vka ia i t vka l a doing aa and way and froa karo tkan

tka thing bagins ta apraad, and aa paapla bogin ta i d a n t l f / tkaaaalvaa

with ua tkay a las i d a n t l f / vka tka anaay i a | and anoa tkat taxes root

tkan yau v l l l f ind tkat arganlaatlans vkiok ara oaaaittad to tka atrugglo

thoro, v l l l vant to p u l l avay froa tka aatabllakaantkx aara baoauaa tka

anaay kas aaan i d o n t l f i o d . Tkla i a a tvo-vay atraaa. On tka ana hand

/yau g iro u s . . . . . . .

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12. you glru us tko p o s s i b i l i t y s f indopondsnoe at tko saoo t lao tkat kao a

oeaebaak sn tko quootion o f understanding of who tko real 00007 l o and

booouoo you oro oeas i t t ed to tkot s truggle , you begin to r e a l i s e i t i o

tko aaao struggle b a s i c a l l y so tko explo i ted people koro i n Britain*

Tkorefere, vo bogin to understand tkmt tko struggle l o oeaaea our

s truggle and your struggle oonnot bo aoperateo, ana tklo way enoe you

kayo your ooiaalttooo you lay tko bas i s for a aero lop sent , for a p o l i t i c a l

dorolopaont i n Br i ta in i t o o l f . Tkreugk tkooo ooaoittooo you oan got tko

oar of tko population, tarougk tkooo ooas l t tooo you ka*o tko p e s o i b i l i t y

of d i f f erent organ 1 so t lono oeaing to go tko r booouoo tkoy oro brougkt

togotkor by tko saao needy and you aavo tko opportunity toon. Tkooo

organisat ions tkot hare i d e a s k o r o * p la t f ero , qui te opart free tko

support, tko iapertanoe of tko support here In Br i ta in t o o /

coeval t t e e s aroato a o l l a a t o for a s t rugg l s , a p l a t f s r a l a created for

tkooo organisat ions tkat kavo aeaotklng to say to tko population.

Koro tkon I ta in* I auat otop a t tk lo p o i n t .