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Financial Counseling: Insurance Requirements Lesson 2: Interpreting Your Insurance Contracts to Calculate Patient Responsibility Instructor: Laurie Amdur, CPAR, CFC, PAS

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Page 1: Instructor: Laurie Amdur, CPAR, CFC, PAS.  Room types—Medical, Surgical, ICU, & Intermediate ICU  Authorized vs. Charged  Payment for outside services—

Financial Counseling: Insurance Requirements

Lesson 2: Interpreting Your Insurance Contracts to

Calculate Patient Responsibility

Instructor: Laurie Amdur, CPAR, CFC, PAS

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TheMedical Center

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Testing Your Calculation Skills

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Room types—Medical, Surgical, ICU, & Intermediate ICU

Authorized vs. Charged Payment for outside services—radiologists, physicians, pathologists, anesthesiologists, etc

Inpatients

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Patient in ICU 5 days and medical room 1 day

Authorized 3 ICU days and 3 medical rooms $5000.00 deductible/$0.00 met, 80/20 coins

How much do we collect from the patient?

Blue Cross

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Calculation for Medical ◦$1000.00 X 3 = $3000.00

Calculation for ICU◦$2000.00 X 3 = $6000.00

Total amount Allowed (ICU + Medical)◦$3000.00 + 6000.00 = $9000.00

Total Amount Allowed

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Deductible = $5000 Coins calculation

◦20% X $9000.00 = $1800.00

Total to collect ◦$5000.00 + $1800.00 = $6800.00

Amount to Collect

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$3000.00 deductible, $100.00/day Inpatient copay, 70/30 coinsurance, max out of pocket $5000.00

How much do we collect?

Cigna

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Calculation for Medical◦$1200/day x 3 days = $3600

Calculation for ICU◦$2000/day x 3 days = $6000

Total Allowed◦$3600.00 + 6000.00 = $9600.00

Amount Allowed

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$3000.00 deductible $100.00 copay per day

◦6 X $100.00 = $600.00 Coinsurance Calculation

◦30% X $9600.00 = $2880.00 Maximum OOP is $5000.00

Collect $5600.00 ($5000.00 + $600.00)

Amount to Collect

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$2500.00 deductible, then 100%

How much do we collect?

United Healthcare

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Calculations

AMOUNT ALLOWED

Medical◦ $900/day x 3 days =

$2700 ICU

◦ $1500/day x 3 days = $4500

Total Allowed ◦ $2700 + $4500 =

$7200

Collect $2500.00 Deductible

Plan pays 100% once deductible is met

AMOUNT TO COLLECT

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Radiology and lab fee scheduleSurgery ASC groupers

Outpatients

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Female Patient Yearly physical

◦Mammogram—Digital Screening G0202◦Computer Add on 77051◦dexa scan 77080◦CBC 85027◦lipid panel 80061◦TSH 84443◦A1C 83036

Lab and Radiology

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$1000.00 deductible/$500.00 met, 90/10 coins, max out of pocket $5000.00/$500.00 met

How much do we collect?

Blue Cross

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Blue Cross

Amount Allowed Amount to Collect

G0202 $170.66 77051 $14.93 77080 $152.39 85027 $18.08 80061 $37.42 84443 $46.92 83036 $27.11 Total for these

procedures $467.21

$200.00 deductible remaining

$100.00 copay Coinsurance

Calculation 20% X $467.21 =

$93.44 Collect:

$200.00 deductible, $100.00 copay, and $93.44, for total $393.44

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$500.00 deductible/$300.00 met, 80/20 coins, $100.00 outpatient copay, max out of pocket $1000.00/$300.00 met

How much do we collect?

Cigna

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Cigna

Amount Allowed Amount to Collect

G0202 $170.66 77051 $14.93 77080 $152.39 85027 $18.08 80061 $37.42 84443 $46.92 83036 $27.11 Total for these

procedures $467.21

$200.00 deductible remaining

$100.00 copay Coinsurance

Calculation 20% X $467.21 =

$93.44 Collect:

$200.00 deductible, $100.00 copay, and $93.44, for total $393.44

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$1000.00 deductible met, 60/40 coins, maximum out of pocket $5000.00/$4800.00 met

How much do we collect?

United Healthcare

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G0202 $151.16 77051 $13.22 77080 $134.97 85027 $15.30 80061 $31.66 84443 $39.70 83036 $22.94 Total for these procedures $408.95

Coinsurance Calculation 40% X $408.95 = $163.58

United Healthcare Calculations

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Multiple Surgery Rule—100/50Procedures 29286, 29284, 29822

Surgery

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$2500.00 deductible/$1400.00 met, $250.00 Surgical Copay, 70/30 coinsurance, maximum out of pocket $5000.00/1400.00 met

How much do we collect?

Blue Cross

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29826 ungrouped procedure◦ Unpaid

29824 ASC grouper 5 (100%)◦ $900

29822 ASC grouper 3 (50%)◦ $650.00◦ $650.00 x .5 = $325.00

Amount allowed◦ $900.00 + 325.00 = $1225

Remaining Deductible $1100.00 Copay = $250.00 Collect $1225

Blue Cross

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$3000.00 deductible met, 80/20 coins, maximum out of pocket $10,000/$8500.00 met

Cigna

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29826 ungrouped procedure◦ unpaid

29824 ASC grouper 5 (50%)◦ $650.00◦ 0.5 x $650 = $325.00

29822 ASC grouper 3 (100%)◦ $800.00

Amount allowed◦ $800.00 + 325.00 = $1125.00

Co-Insurance◦ $1125.00 X .20 = $225.00

Collect $225.00

Cigna

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$1000.00 deductible/$700.00 met, 90/10 coins, maximum out of pocket $1500/$700.00 met

United Healthcare

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29826 ungrouped procedure◦ unpaid

29824 ASC grouper 5 (100%)◦ $1050.00

29822 ASC grouper 3◦ $850.00◦ 0.5 X $850.00 = $425.00

Amount allowed◦ $425.00 + 1050.00 = $1475.00

Co-Insurance◦ 10% X $1475.00 = $147.50

$300.00 Remaining Deductible $300.00 + 147.50 = $447.50 Collect $447.50

United Healthcare

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Contracts can be complex Different fee schedules for different procedures

Need to be familiar with the various provisions

Summary