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Page 1: Ian Bird LHCC Referee meeting 23 rd September 2014

WLCG - status

Ian Bird

LHCC Referee meeting

23rd September 2014

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Resource evolution - 2015

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Pledges vs requests for 2015

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Evolution of requirements

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Estimated evolution of requirements 2015-2017

2008-2013: Actual deployed capacity

Line: extrapolation of 2008-2012 actual resources

Curves: expected potential growth of technology with a constant budget (see next) CPU: 20% yearly growth Disk: 15% yearly growth

Higher trigger (data) rates driven by physics needs

Based on understanding of likely LHC parameters;

Foreseen technology evolution (CPU, disk, tape)

Experiments work hard to fit within constant budget scenario

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Pledges 2015

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Costs estimated using CERN 2015 budget, ignoring networking

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Tier 0 capacity

• All new capacity is being installed in Wigner• Current tender – 2015 capacity

- 50 PB disk, 750 kHS06 (36 k cores) • 2/3 @Wigner, 1/3 at Meyrin

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HEP Software Foundation

23 September 2014

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Status• First workshop held in April• 12 whitepapers produced by the community

- Broad agreement on:• Goals and Scope• Bottom-up vs top-down approach

• Agreed that should be pragmatic to get started• Core group – initial instigators + whitepaper authors have met several

times to discuss how to kick-start the foundation• Proposed a time-limited leadership team• Agreed this team is 2 people + support from the core group

- Ensuring representation of key stakeholders

• Eventually propose a longer term structure and governance model once- Better understand what needs to be done- Better understanding of how it needs to be managed

• Names have been proposed – waiting for confirmation that they are willing and able to spend time on this23 September 2014 Ian Bird; LHCC 8

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Initial work of the interim team • animate discussions between all stakeholders, provide

a system for facilitating information exchange• discuss with experiments their needs; where are

improvements needed - performance, maintainability, …

• discuss with existing projects their priorities; what impact can the Foundation have for them

• collect ideas from the community for starting new projects; what support is needed

• start to put together a 'programme of work' in time for discussion at the next workshop; look for contributors

• start to prepare a special session at CHEP

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Collaboration• Russian Tier 1 sites

- Expect to be acting as full Tier 1s for Run 2

• Latin America- Several MoU’s in progress

• South Africa- Ongoing discussions

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Data privacy• Changes in EU laws on protection of personal information

- “user consent” is no longer sufficient

• Need to review and update our AUP and data protection policies

• BUT:- Currently some of our (WLCG and experiment) information

publication is potentially (now) illegal in many European countries

- Specific issue affecting xrootd (and sending of monitoring information to sites in US)

• Technical steps can be taken to remove personal information, relocate end-point to CERN (or EU)

- Potential risk of breaking services if sites are required to stop services, data publication, etc.

• We need to be proactive and address this23 September 2014 Ian Bird; LHCC 11

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IT-SDC

Status of ARGUS support

SWITCH has now ZERO effort for ARGUS Contacts with several partners held during

the summer with no clear commitment to take over any specific ARGUS component from SWITCH

Together with A. Ceccanti and V. Tschopp a twiki has been created identifying ARGUS components and current responsibilities https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/ARGUSCollaborat

ion

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IT-SDC

ARGUS components

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Component Name Responsible RPMS

PEP client and server (Policy Enforcement Point) None

argus-gsi-pep-callout argus-pep-api-c argus-pep-common argus-pep-server argus-pepcli argus-pep-api-java (deprecated) argus-gsi-pep-callout

PAP (Policy Administration Point) INFN argus-pap-1.6.0-1

PDP (Policy Decision Point) None argus-pdp argus-pdp-pep-common

Config and Monitoring packages None nagios-plugins-argus INFN yaim-argus_server

ARGUS EES NIKHEFees ees-pepd-oh nagios-plugins-ees

LCMAPS plugin for Argus NIKHEF lcmaps-plugins-c-pep

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Middleware support• Concern over lack of support for such a key

piece of software• Re-inforces the ideas that we must move

away from HEP-specific software as far as feasible

• In this instance discussing with OSG/EGI whether a convergence of efforts is possible

• Long-term this remains a significant concern

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Other longer term concerns• Effort

- Operations- Computing and software

• Operations- Operations team analysing where most

operational effort is spent

• Computing and software- All experiments have raised the concern over

the loss of effort as well as concerns over continuity of expertise

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Upgrade tasks• See summary slides from SPC last week• Preparatory workshop for ECFA meeting

- https://indico.cern.ch/event/328391/

• Need to start more active brainstorming activities- How computing models can (significantly) change to need far

less computing/storage resources- Do we understand how to optimise the complex distributed

system?- One idea is to initiate some modelling activities

• Needed to understand system optimisation• Needed to evaluate potential different models• We have lots of data as input!• We have the opportunity in Run 2 to potentially test ideas

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