hives. it · up, we get more stressed out. you just need to sleep better or you need to get your...

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Dr.IzabellaWentz: [00:00:30]

Thyroiddiseaseisoneofthemostmisunderstoodconditionsofourtimes.Itcouldseemlikehavinganightmarethatyoujustcan'tescapefrom.Itcantearyourlifeapartbitbybit,takingeverythingfromyou.Itcandestroyyourself-esteem,damageyourrelationships,anderodeyouraspirations.Thetruthisyoudon'thavetosufferlikethisandyoucanrecoveryourhealthandfeelenergetic,fit,calm,beautifulandpowerfuloncemore.Mypersonaljourneywiththyroiddiseasenearlytookeverythingfromme,myself-worth,myrelationshipswithmyfamily,friendsandmyhusband,myaspirationsasahealthcareprofessional.I'mDr.IzabellaWentz.I'mapharmacist,researcher,author,andthyroidpatientadvocate.

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Turningmyhealtharoundandreversingmyautoimmunethyroidconditionwasoneofthemostrewardingandhumblingexperiencesofmylife.Ican'tdescribethehappinessIfeltwhenafteralmostadecadeofdebilitatingfatigue,Iawokewithnewfoundenergy.AllofthishappenedbecauseImadeacommitmenttomyhealthanddecidedtolearneverythingIpossiblycouldaboutmythyroidconditionknownasHashimoto'sthyroiditis.Imademyselfabitofahumanguineapiganduncoveredwhatwascausingmyconditionandhowtoreverseit.

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MylifewaschangedforeverthroughthethingsIlearnedandsoIbegantosharemystoryandmyresearchwithotherpeoplewhoarestrugglingwiththyroiddisease.Itwassogratifyingtoseecompletehealthrecoveriesandpeoplewhohadbeenstrugglingfordecades.Sharingthistruthbecamemylife'smission.ThetruthisthattheprotocolsIusedtoreversemyconditionwerenottaughttomebymylocaldoctor.IfeltlikeIwasthecodethatnobodycouldcrack,themysterythatnobodyunderstoodandIwantedtobeunderstoodandIwantedtobeheard,butIwasn'ttoldtheanswersfromthesourcesofauthorityIthoughtIwouldhearthemfrom.TheThyroidSecretisbringingtheundergroundinformationyouneedtorecoveryourhealthtothesurface.It'sourbeaconoflighttotheworldsufferingfromthyroiddiseaseandeverydaythreatstotheirthyroid.We'regivingyoutheinformationthathasbeentheworld'sbest-keptsecret,thesecretthat'sbeingkeptfromyoubecauseofmyths,misinformationandabrokenhealthcaresystem.Youdeservethetruth,sothatyou,too,canrecoveryourhealth.Getreadybecausewe'regivingyoueverythingyouneedtoknowrighthere,rightnow.

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OneofthehardestthingsaboutdealingwithHashimoto'sformewasactuallynotknowingthatIhaveHashimoto's.Iwassotiredforalmostadecade,Ibasicallywouldgotoschool,comehomefromschoolandgotobed.Isleptfor12,sometimes14hourseachnight,justtofeellikehuman.AnotherpartthatwasreallychallengingwasthebrainfogthatIexperienced.Iwasinmymid-20sandIfoundmyselftobeveryveryforgetful.Ihadalwaysbeenthisbright-eyedandbushy-tailedkidandallofasudden,Icouldn'trememberreallysimplethings.Thiswasn'tsupposedtohappen.Iwassmart.IwasarticulateandyetIfoundmyselfgoingintoroomsandforgettingwhyIgotthere,forgettingsimplewordslikecat,dog.IthoughtIwaslosingmymind.Whenyouhavethebrainfogthatcomeswiththyroiddisease,youfeellikeyou'reinaconstantquicksand.You'retryingtogetoutandyoujustcan'tgetout.You'reworkingsohardtogoagainstthegrain,goagainstthesandandit'snotworkingbecauseeverythingaroundyouisjustmovingwaytooquickly.

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AfterthatIbegantohaveanxietyandpanicattacks.Then,Istartedhavingcarpaltunnel.Ibegintolosemyhair.IbegantohavebrainfoganditjustfeltlikeIwasonadownwardspiral.Myhealthjustkeptdeclining.Slowlybutsurely,monthaftermonth,Ibegantohavemoreandmoresymptoms.Ididn'tlooksick.Mostpeoplewithautoimmunethyroiddiseasedon'tlooksickatallandeverybodyaroundthemjustdoesn'tseemtobelievethepainthatthey'regoingthrough.Then,Ibegantohavepanicattacks,somyhusbandMichaelwouldgooutrunningandhetoldmethathe'dbebackinabout15minutesand20minuteswouldpassby.

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Then,I'dbecryinginthebathroom,worriedthatmaybehegothitbyacarormaybehehadaheartattackrunningorthatheranoffwithanotherwomanorsomethingcompletelyirrational.PartofmethoughtthateverythingthatIwasexperiencingwasinmyheadandcertainlythemedicaldoctorsthatIsawledmetobelievethat.Theytoldme,“Youarestressedout,you'regettingolder.”Thisiswhat

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happenswhenwegetolder,westartbecomingmoretired.Aswehavealltheseworkpressuresbuild-up,wegetmorestressedout.Youjustneedtosleepbetteroryouneedtogetyourrest.Then,IbegantowonderifIwasexercisingenough,ifIwaseatingtherightthings,ifperhapsIwastakingontoomuchinmylife.

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Yeah,Ithoughtitwasmyfault.IthoughtIcreatedthis.IfeltlikeIwasfallingapartandIwasanewlywedandallofasudden,Istartedtohaveacidrefluxandcarpaltunnelandthesepanicattacks.Ididn'tthinkitwasfairtomyhusband.Iwasworriedthathewouldleaveme.IwasworriedthatIwasn'tbeingagoodwife.Iwastootiredtodoanythingforhim.Ireallyreallywantedtobeagoodwifeandagoodpersonandjustthefatiguekeptmefromdoinganything.Iwouldcomehomefromwork,Iwouldeatsomething,watchTVandthenI’dgotobed.Iwastootiredtogooutwithfriends.Iwastootiredtoread.Iwastootiredtoreallytakeanactivepartinlife.

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WhenIwasdiagnosedwithHashimoto's,Iremembercominghomeandjustburstingintotears.OneofthemorecommonthingsthatcanoccurwithHashimoto'sisinfertilityandmiscarriages.Asanewlywed,thatwassuchahardthingtohearthatIwouldpotentiallyneverbeabletohavechildrenorthatmychildrenwouldbeperhapsbornwithdevelopmentaldisabilities.WhenIfirstfoundoutIhadHashimoto's,Ijustburstintotears.OneofthethingswaslikethefreedomthatwastakenawaybecauseIwouldalwayshavetoworryaboutwhethermychildrenwouldbeokay,whetherI'dbeabletobecomepregnant,Iwouldhavetospendsomuchtimeplanningandtestingandtryingmoreanddoingdifferentmedications.EvenwhenIdidallthat,therewasnoguaranteethatIwasgoingtohaveahealthypregnancy.Ifeltthosefeelingsinmychest,inmythroat,inmyheart.Ifeltthemineverypartofmybody.IjustfeltlikeIwaslettingeverybodydown,lettingdownmyhusband,myself,myfuturechildren,myparents.

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Thetruthislivingwithuntreatedthyroiddiseasecanfeellikeadownwardspiralthatyoucan'tescapefrom.It'slikewalkingthroughaquicksandthatwon'tletyoufree.Theexperienceofeachpersonisdifferentfromanother,butineverycase,itcanbedevastating.Oneofthemostvulnerableareasoflifeisitaffectsourmentalfunction.Haveyoueverfeltwhatit'sliketoloseyourself?Haveyoueverfeltwhatit'slikenottofeellikeyouanymore?It'sreallysad,butmostpeopleneverdetectthatit'sahealthconditionthatisbringingaboutthisunwantedchangeandthey'retoooftenfeelinglikethey'rejustabadperson.Theybegintohatethewaythatthey'reacting.Here'stheuglytruthaboutthyroiddiseaseandthebeautifulpeoplethatitpreysupon.Whatkindofsymptomswereyouhavingwhenyouwerefirstdiagnosed?

[00:07:30] PearlThomas: [00:08:00]

Wow,Ididn’tevenknowthereweresymptomsactually.ThesymptomsIwashaving,itstartedwithhives.ItwaswhenIwaslivinginJapanactuallyin2007thatIactuallygotthesehives,thinkingtheywerebugbites.In2012,whenIwasdiagnosedwithHashimoto's,they'vebeenshowingupagainthatyear.Itallstartedtomakesense.Thehiveswerethefirst,Igotbaldspotsallover,mainlyonthebottomofmyhairanduphere,whereyouseeeveryday.Ididn'trealizethatIwasactuallyintheprocessoflosinghair,havingpanicattacks,notknowingwheretheywerecomingfrom.Iwasdepressed.Anxiety,notknowingwhereitwascomingfrom.

FabienneHeymans: [00:08:30] [00:09:00]

SinceIwasundiagnosedandsickprettymuchallmylife,Icouldreallyseeclearlythattherewerethreecrisesinmylifethatwhereallthesymptomswerereallyatthesurface.Thatwaspuberty,childbirth,andmenopause.IthinkthatwhenIhadmenopause,mybodywaslike,“Okaythat'senough.I'mcheckingout.”Itgoesfromhairlosstoexhaustionandyouknowwhatthatis,it'sbeyondtiredness,tothepointwhereIcouldn'tevengoupthesubwaystairswithoutstoppingandtakingmybreath.Gumproblems,gut,digestion,ImeanIcouldeatjustanythingandIwouldn'tdigestit.Ihadstoppedeatingdairyandgluten,butthatwasnotenough.IreallyhadtohealdeeplythetissueofmygutandstarttheresuchIfocusedonforagoodthreeyearsandstilltuningupeverything.

[00:09:30] Dr.EricOsansky:

Someofthedifferentsymptoms,increasedrestingpulserate,heartpalpitations,weightloss,increasedappetite.Alotofpeoplehaveanxiety,irritability.Loosestoolsarecommon.Eyesymptomssuchaseyebulging,eyeswelling,eyepain,sothosearesomeofthemorecommonsymptoms.

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JohannaPlacencio: [00:10:00] [00:10:30]

Ididn'tknowIhadthyroidissues.Istartedlosingmyhairandmyhairdresserhadactuallytoldmethat,shesaid,“You'relosingalotofhair.”Shesaid,“Youmightwanttogoseeyourdoctor.”Isaid,“Ihaven'treallybeenfeelingmyself,Ihaveaverystressfuljob.Iworkinpharmaceuticalresearch,soI'malwaystravelingonaplane.”Ithoughtmaybemybodywasjusttiredfromthejetlag.Iwasgoingtoallthesedifferentdoctorsandaskingthemaboutwhatcouldbewrong.Alotofthemtoldmeitwasinmyhead,maybeIwaspremenopausal,itcouldbethetravel,thejetlag.Theywouldrunmylabtestingandmythyroidwasonthelowerendofnormal.TheysaidthatIdidn'tneedanymedicationsandIsaid,“Myhairisfallingout,Icanbarelygetupinthemorning,I'mlethargic.Ihavejointpain.”

Dr.AmyMyers: [00:11:00]

IhadsomethingcalledGraves’disease,whichisanautoimmunedisorderofyourthyroidandwiththatthat'swhyIwashavingallthesepanicattacksandinsomniaandweightlossandrapidheartbeatandthetremorwasallbecausemybodywasattackingmythyroid,creatingittobeoveractive.

MagdalenaWszelaki: [00:11:30]

In2004,IwasdiagnosedwithGraves’diseasebecauseofheartpalpitations,havingsweatyhandsandhavinganxietyattacksandyellingatpeoplefornoreason,likeoutburstsofanger.Iknewthatwasn'tme,likeitwasn’tmycharactertobemeantopeople.Iknewtherewassomethingwrong.Oh,itwasterrifying,Imeanitwasterrifyingtoseeyourpersonalitychanginglikethatlikeyou'vebecomeareallymeanperson.ItwasadifferentpersonaltogetherandlaterwithHashimoto's,itrepeatedagain,thesamething.Itchangesyourpersonality.

MarcRyan: [00:12:00]

IwascompletelywipedoutandIwastiredallthetime.Ihadterriblebrainfogandmemoryissues.Ihadputon25pounds,bloating,inflammation.Iwasworkinglike60hours,70hoursaweek.Itjustwasamessandliterallymyentirelifefellapart.Atthatpoint,IknewsomethingwaswrongandIwenttothedoctor.ThethingthatsentmethedoctorwasIhadthisveryseverestabbingeyepain.Iwenttoabatteryofdifferenteyedoctorsandtheydidallthesedifferenttests.Theycouldn'tfindanything.

KatieWells: IwassofatiguedandsotiredandIdidn'tknowwhyandIcouldn'tfigureoutwhatwaswrongwithme.Ididn'tunderstandit.Hedidn'tunderstanditeitherandsotherewasanelementoflike,“Whydon'tyouwanttodothisstuff,whycan'tyoudothis,whyareyousotiredallthetime?”

LeanneEly: [00:12:30] [00:13:00]

WhenIfirstwasdiagnosedin2005,Ihadallthosehorriblesymptoms.Nothingwasworkingtotaketheweightoff.Ihadtheroundfaceagain,losingeyebrowsagain,losinghairandabsolutecompleteutterexhaustion.Itwasterrible.Yeah,itwasbad,itisreallybad.IfeltlikeIhadnothingleft.IfeltlikeIhadnolife.IhadtomakeachoiceifIwasgoingtogoworkoutorworkbecauseIcouldn'tdoboth.Youknowthebrainfogbusinessthatwasabsolutelytrue.Mythyroidactuallyhurt.Puttinganythingaroundmyneck,aturtleneck,Icouldn’twearaturtleneckandthatpressure,itjustmademefeelreallylikeIwassuffocatingalmost.Itwasbad.

Dr.SarahBallantyne: [00:13:30] [00:14:00] [00:14:30]

WhenIwasyounger,IreallythoughtmyhealthproblemwasthatIwasobeseandIcouldn'texplainwhyIwasoverweight.IstartedstrugglingwithmyweightwithpubertyanditneverscaledtohowIateorhowactiveIwas,butIalwaysjustfeltthatIwasdoingsomethingwrongorthatIwasweakornotgoodenoughsomehow.Ididn'treallyunderstanduntilmuchlaterthatIhavebeendiagnosedwithHashimoto'sThyroiditisalongwithotherautoimmunediseases.WhenIlookback,Irealizedthatitverylikelystartedwithpubertyorevenalittlebitbefore,butwhathappenedwasIstruggledwithmyweightforallofmyteenyearsand20sandearly30s.Iterodedmyconfidenceandmyself-esteem,mysenseofself-worth.ItalwaysbecamethisthingthatIcouldn'tcontrolmyweight,soIwasn'tgoodenoughforwhateverthemetricwasatthattime.Itwasn'tuntilIstartedchangingmydietandmylifestyleandseekingbettermedicalcareandgettingdiagnosedproperlythatIreallystartedtounderstandmylifeintermsofbattlingthedisease.

DaveAsprey: [00:15:00]

WhenIweighed300pounds,I'dhadtwokneesurgeries.Isaid,“Alright,I'mdonewiththis.I'mgoingtogetinshape.I'mgoingtolosethisweight.It'sthemostimportantthingIcoulddo.”Iworkedoutreligiously.NomatterhowmuchsleepIgot,itdidn'tmatter,Ialwayswenttothegymsixdaysaweekanhourandahalfaday.Ididhalfweightsandhalfcardio.Attheendofayear,Icouldmaxoutevery

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oneofthosemachinesatthegym.Iwasdoing15degreeinclineonthetreadmill.Ididn'trun,butIwouldlikewalkwithabackpackanditwaslikeIwasdoingit.Iwaseatingthesevegetarian,low-fatthingsandmyfriendswereeatingfrenchfries.Icouldbenchpressthemwhiletheyatefrenchfries,theywereallthinnerthanIwas.IlookedaroundonedayandI'mlike“TheyalleatmorethanIdo,likewhat'sgoingon?”NooneworksoutlikeIdoandIjustthoughtitwasbecauseIwasn'ttryinghardenough.


Diseaseneverwaitsandstepsinwhenyouhavethephysical,mental,orfinancialcapacitytodealwithit,no.Unfortunately,quitetheoppositereally.Itintrudesinthemiddleofyourlife.Ithitsyouwhenyouthoughtyouwerealreadydownforthefight,whenyouwerepleadingformercy.

StaceyRobbins: [00:16:00] [00:16:30] [00:17:00]

1995wasoneoftheyearsthatwillgodowninhistoryforme.RockandIweregroovingalong.Ishouldn’tsaygrooving,itactuallywasprettybumpy.Itwasabumpytimeinouryoungmarriageandsothingswerekindofstressfultothepointwhereweweretakingabreakandwewereseparating.Then,Iwashitinfirstofacoupleofcaraccidentsandthenmydadwasinthisprocessofdyingattheyoungageof49fromcomplicationstodiabetes.Therewasthisreallykindofswirlingsetofeventsthathappenedandinthemidstofallofit,Iamthisworkaholicprofessionalmusician,whoistravelingallover.I'mrecordinginthestudio,I'mworkingwithdifferentartistsfromalloverthecountry.Mylifeisinthisnon-stopmode.Then,alltheseeventsarehappeningandmylifekindofcrashedandburned.Normally,nomatterwhatthecircumstanceswere,Icouldjustkeepgoingnomatterwhat,butduringthatparticulartime,IfoundthatthingsweregettingbiggerthanIcouldhandle.Istartedgettingthiscrashingfatigue,wherenomatterhowmuchIslept,Icouldnotfunction.Iwassickallthetimewithsinusinfections.Iwasjustthismessofapersonwhowasalsogainingtonsandtonsofweightlikeepicproportions.

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Ididthethingsthatmostpeopledo.Yougotothedoctors,“Oh,I'minpaininmybody,“Well,letmegiveyousomethingforpain.“Oh,I'mtiredallthetime.”“Well,letmegiveyousomethingforyourenergy.”“Oh,I'mnotlosingweight,”“Well,letmegiveyousomethingforyourweightloss.”Allofthosethingsweren'treallyaddressingtherootoftheproblem,butI'vecarriedonthatwayforaverylongtime.Whatledtomydiagnosiswasreallyalotofmisdiagnoses,alotofmisstepsthateventuallyledtotherevelation,butbythetimeIwasdiagnosed,Ihadgained100pounds,over100pounds.Iwas270pounds.Icouldn'tperformanymore.Iwastooafraidtoleavemyhouse.I'dbecomeagoraphobic.Myskinwasliterallybleedingatthetouch.Ifyoutouchmyskin,bloodwouldcomeout.Iwasanxiousallthetime.Islept,butdidn'tfeelrestedorthenIhadinsomniaandwaswired.Itwasjustareallycrazytime.Itwasalotofsymptomsthatweregettingmissed,eventhoughtheyverymuchpointedtothyroidandHashimoto's,buttheygotmissedforalongtimeandthingsgotprogressivelyworseuntilIwasdiagnosed.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Canyoutalkmoreaboutthatdiagnosticapproach?

Dr.AlanChristianson: [00:18:30] [00:19:00]

Thisisabigthing,soHashimoto'sisreallythemaincauseofthyroiddiseaseacrosstheboard.There'sothertypesthatareoutthatwe'lldiscuss,butHashimoto'sisthemainone.Inmanycases,peoplearediagnosedasbeinghypothyroidwhenit'sobvious,butthey'renoteventoldaboutHashimoto's.Thedataisstrongthatthewholeimmuneresponse,theinflammation,itcangoonforadecadebeforethereiseverenoughoftheshifttogetdiagnosedasbeinghypothyroid.ThetoughpartisthatHashimoto's,there'sdifferentkindsofdiagnosisinmedicine.Somekindsofdiagnosisareoneparticularfinding,likeyou'rehypertensiveifyourbloodpressure'shereorthere'sthebreakonthex-ray,you'vegotabrokenfibula,sosomediagnosislikeonefinding.Otherdiagnosesarebaseduponclustersofsymptoms.Wecallthosesyndromes.

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Then,otherdiagnosesarereallybaseduponmicroscopicfindings.Wecallthatahistologicdiagnosis.Hashimoto'sisactuallyahistologicdiagnosis,sothere'salotofwaysyoucanstronglysuspectHashimoto'ssuchaspositivethyroidantibodies,unexplainedchangesinthyroidfunctionoralterationsinthyroidstructure,theultrasoundespecially,butthere'sreallynoclearwaytorefuteHashimoto's.There'snowayyoucantakesomeoneandsay,“Yeah,youdon'thaveit,”thatisunlessyouremove

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theirglandandyou'veminceditandyou’velikeanalyzedeveryspeckofitmicroscopically.Wedon'tdothat,sosomanythathaveitdon'tknowitbecausethere'snoeasyruleoutforit.


Ithinkthat'ssuchanimportantthingasalotoftimespeoplewillgototheirdoctorsandthey'llgetthebloodtestdoneandtheirdoctorswilltellthemthateverythingisnormalorthattheydon’thaveHashimoto's,butthat'snotnecessarilythecase.

Dr.AlanChristianson: [00:20:30]

Whatthatmeansinalmostallcasesisthatthispersonwentoutoftheirwayandtheyreadoneofyourbooksprobablyandtheyasktheirdoctorordemandedtogettheirantibodiestestedbecauseitwouldn'tbedoneotherwise.Theantibodytestcamebacknegativeandsothepresumptiononthedoctor’spartislike,“Oh,thisisnegative,thereforeyoudon'thaveHashimoto's.”Thedataissostrongthatupwardsof40-50%ofthosethatdohaveHashimoto'sneverhavepositiveantibodies.That'snotaruleout.Thatdoesn'tmeanthatthisissomethingthatpersonneedstoignoreorquestionthemselvesorthinkthey'remakingupthesesymptoms.Itstillcanbeapossibilityforthem.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Whatothertypesoftestsdoyourecommendforyourpatients?


That'sagoodone.Ialsoamafanofscreeninginflammation,sothere'sthyroglobulinantibodiesandthere'sjustthyroglobulin,they'reseparate.Wealsowanttomakesenseoutofhowthehormonesarebeingusedinthebodyandhowthey'rebeingeliminated,sothat'swhywelookatthefreeT3,freeT4,reverseT3.I'malsoabigfanofcheckingthyroidstructureandthat'sultrasoundevaluation.There'salotofpeopletowhereyouwouldn'tknowtheyhadHashimoto'swithoutcheckingthestructure.Theotherrelevanceisthatwethinkalotaboutcancers,breastcancer,lungcancer,totallyrelevantstuff,thefastestincreasingoneisthyroidcancer.It'spickingupquickerthananything.Thosewhohavethyroiddisease,they'remoreatriskbecausetheirbodyisyellingattheirthyroid,it'sinflamed,sothat'sthepopulationwe'reconcernedabout.Iwanttomakesurethatiftheydidhavecancer,wecatchitasearlyaspossibleandthenalsoiftheyhadanyearlysignsthatcouldleadtocancer,therearestrategiesthatcancuttheirriskfromhavingthatprogress.It'ssuperimportanttoknowaboutthestructureofthethyroidaswell.

Dr.EricOsansky: [00:22:00]

Someofthedifferentsymptoms,increasedrestingpulserate,heartpalpitations,weightloss,increasedappetite.Alotofpeoplehaveanxiety,irritability.Loosestoolsarecommon.Eyesymptomssuchaseyebulging,eyeswelling,eyepain,sothosearesomeofthemorecommonsymptoms.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Thankyouforsharingthatandthenwhataboutdiagnostictests?Let'ssayifsomebodywasfeelingsomeofthesymptoms,whatkindoftestscantheydotogettheproperdiagnosis?

[00:22:30] Dr.EricOsansky: [00:23:00] [00:23:30]

Initially,whatthey’llusuallydoisathyroidpanel,consistingofTSHandideallyfreeT3,freeT4.Everydoctor'sdifferent.SomedoctorswilljuststartwithaTSHandseethattheTSHisdepressedandthentheymighttestforthefreeT3,freeT4.AsfarasdiagnosingGraves’sinceGraves’isanautoimmunecondition,youwanttodothingstolookandtestthehealthoftheimmunesystem,soTSHreceptorantibodiesarecommonlyelevatedinGraves’disease,morespecificallythyroid-stimulatingimmunoglobulins.That'susuallythetestyouwanttohavetoseeifthoseareelevated.Somedoctorsalsodowhat'scalledaradioactiveiodineuptaketestoruptakescan,whichinvolvestakingasmallamountofradioactiveiodineandnowifthat'selevated,thenalotofthemwillconcludesomeonewillhaveGraves’disease,eventhoughIpersonallyprefertheantibodiestoatleastinitiallystartingoutwiththeantibodies.IfthoseareelevatedandespeciallyifsomeonehasthedepressedTSHandelevatedthyroidhormonelevels,thenit'sprettyconclusivethatitisGraves'disease.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Whydoyourecommendtheantibodiesratherthantheradioactiveiodineuptakeorwhydoyoupreferthat?


Well,it'slessinvasive.Imeanit'sabloodtest,alittlebitinvasive,butstillit'sasimplerprocedure.Eventhoughit'sasmallamountofradioactiveiodine,itstillinvolvessomeradiation.It'snotthesameasgettingtheradioactiveiodinetreatment,butstillifyoucouldavoidanyofradiationandjustgetthe

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bloodtest,thentomeitmakessense.Ifsomeonehasthebloodtestandit'sshowingthepositivethyroid-stimulatingimmunoglobulinsthatprettymuchconfirmsthattheyhaveGraves’diseasewithouthavingtodotheuptaketest.Somewilldotheuptaketestalsotolookatnodules,sotheymightsay,“Well,wealsowanttolookatthyroidnodules,”butyoucouldalsohaveanultrasounddone,whichiswhatIhadwhenIwasdealingwithGraves'disease.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Now,wouldyousaythatHashimoto'sandGraves’diseasearetwodifferentsidesofacoin? [00:24:30] Dr.EricOsansky: [00:25:00]

They'redifferent,butthey'resame.They'rebothimmunesystemconditionsthatinvolvethethyroid,soobviouslywithbothoftheseconditions,theyinvolvedifferentautoantibodies.Theimmunesystemattacksdifferentareasofthebody.WithGraves'disease,itinvolvesthyroidstimulatingimmunoglobulins,sopeoplewiththatimmunesystemwillattacktheTSHreceptors,whichleadstotheincreasedthyroidhormoneproduction.WhereaswithHashimoto's,theyhavethethyroidperoxidaseand/orthyroglobulinantibodiesbeingelevated,sotheimmunesystemwillattackthoseareasofthebody,thethyroidperoxidaseenzymeorthyroglobulin.They'redifferent,butthey'rebothimmunesystemconditions.Witheitherone,youwanttotrytofindthetriggerandyouwanttoremovethetrigger.Youwanttotrytocorrectotherimbalances.

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AlotofpeoplewithbothHashimoto'sandGraves'willhaveadrenalimbalances.Ofcourse,aleakygutisprettycommon.Sometheorizeit'spresentandit'sverygoodtheorythatit’spresentwitheveryautoimmunecondition.Thesymptommanagementmightdifferbetweenthetwo.Obviously,ifsomeonecomesinwithGraves’diseaseandifthey'reinahyperthyroidstate,thenthemanagementisgoingtobeverydifferentthansomeonewithHashimoto's,whopresentswithhypothyroidsymptoms.Themanagementisdifferent,butagainthey'rebothimmunesystemconditions,bothautoimmuneconditions,sothegoalistotrytofindthecause,addressthecauseoftheproblem.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: CanHashimoto'sandGraves'diseasehavethesameunderlyingrootcauses?

Dr.EricOsansky: Theycan,someofthecoursesmightbethesame,someofthemmightbedifferent,butyeahsomeofthesamefactorsthatwilltriggerGraves'diseasecantriggerHashimoto'sandviceversa.

[00:26:30] Dr.IzabellaWentz: [00:27:00] [00:27:30]

ThebestteststodoforHashimoto'saregoingtobethyroidantibodytests.Thetwoantibodiestoaskforarethyroidperoxidaseantibodies,youcanabbreviatethatasTPOantibodiesandthyroglobulinantibodiesandthat'sabbreviatedasTGantibodies.Now,thesearelabmarkers,indicatingthatyourthyroidglandisunderattackbyyourimmunesystem.Thesethyroidmarkerscanbemeasuredinthebloodforupto10yearsbeforeyouseeachangeinTSH,beforeyouseeachangeinotherthyroidmarkers.Manypeoplewillreportthattheyhavethyroidsymptomswhentheyhaveanelevationintheseantibodies.Uncoveringthyroidantibodiesisreallyreallyhelpfulbecauseitletsusknowthatwehaveanautoimmuneprocesswithinourbodiesandthisallowsustodosomethingaboutit.Thehigherthethyroidantibodies,themoreaggressivetheattackonthethyroidglandandthequickertheprogressionisgoingtohappentoothertypesofautoimmunedisease.Ireallyliketousethethyroidantibodiesasamarkerofhowapersonisdoing.I'dlovetoseeeverypersonbetestedforthyroidantibodiestofigureoutiftheyhaveanautoimmuneprocesswithintheirbodybecauseifwefindtheseantibodies,wecanactuallypreventthyroiddestructionandwecanpreventdecadesofmysterioussymptoms.

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It'sreallyimportantthatyougettestedforthyroidantibodiesbecausewhenyouseethesetests,thesetestswilltellyouwhetherornotyouhaveanautoimmuneprocesshappeningwithinyourbody.Thiswillallowyoutotakechargeofyourownhealth,sothatyoucanpreventdisease,sothatyoucanrecoveryourlife,soyoucouldreduceallofyoursymptomsandlivethelifethatyouweremeanttolive.

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Gettingthecorrectdiagnosisisacrucialstepinyourhealingjourney,butpleaseknowthatthisisnottheonlystepyouneedtotake.Thisisbecauseourconventionalmedicalmodelisverymuchbrokenwhenitcomestotreatingthyroiddisease.Today'streatmentsforthyroidconditionsrangefromhighly

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ineffectivesynthetichormonestobarbaricanddangeroustreatmentsthatdestroythethyroidglandentirely.Furthermore,noneofthesetreatmentsworktoaimatthecauseofthediseaseandthepersonwhoisinitiallydiagnosedwithathyroidconditionwilloftengoontodevelopadditionaldiseases.

DeannaKelemen: [00:29:00] [00:29:30]

Istartedtodevelopanothermysteryillnessandthiswasin2008.Ihadbeenaddingsymptoms,liketheyhavebeenmonitoringalowwhitecountthathadbeengoingonforyearsactuallyandjustanumberofthingsthatwhereIwasstartingtofeelrundownagain.ThiswaswhenIwasonjusttheSynthroid.Idon'tknowifthere'sanyrelationship,butthenallofasudden,Istartedrunningafever,ahighfeverforacoupleweeks.Iwentinabouttwotothreeweeksafterandmytemperaturewasstill102,sotonsoftests,tryingtofigureoutwhatwasgoingonwiththis.Well,Iranthatfeverprettymucheveryafternoonormainlytheevenings,someafternoonsforayear-

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Wow.

DeannaKelemen: [00:30:00]

…beforeIwasfinallydiagnosedwithundifferentiatedconnectivetissuedisease,whichisautoimmune.It'skindofamildversionofthosenumberofconnectivetissuediseasesthataregoingtobemuchmoreseriouslikerheumatoidarthritisorlupusorSjogren'sormixedconnectivetissuediseases,abunchofthem.Thisiswhythatit'slikewellsomeofthetestsarepositive,buttheycan'tquitefigureoutexactlywhereyoufitinthatpicture.That'swhenIdecidedtogetreallyextremeaboutmydiet.There’snotaSynthroidpillyoucantakeforthattomask,toreplacehormonesbecauseit'snotwhatit'sabout.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: [00:30:30] [00:31:00]

Ithinkthat’ssuchanimportantpointthatyou'rebringingupbecauseIdon'tthinkalotofpeoplerealizethis,butwhenyouhaveoneautoimmuneconditionthatisbasicallytheimmunesystemgoingafterkindofliketheweakestlink.Foralotofwomen,it'sourthyroid.Ourthyroidcanconcentrateinfections,itcanconcentratedifferenttoxinsandalotoftimes,it'sgoingtobethefirstthingthatthebodygoesafter,butweknowthattherearefivestagesofHashimoto's.ThesecondstageofHashimoto'siswhenwestarthavingtheattackonthethyroid.Then,itmovestosubclinical.Then,itmovesintohypothyroidandthenthefifthstageisactuallymovingintoadditionalautoimmuneconditions.WhilethyroidmedicationscanhelpandIcertainlydoappreciatethatasapharmacist,gettingthepersonontherightmedicationattherightdoseforthemthatcanmakeatremendousdifference,butIreallyurgepeopletolookatthewholebody,sowhenyouhaveoneautoimmuneconditionthatmeansyourimmunesystemisoutofbalance.Ifyoudon'taddressthatbalance,there'sapotentialthatyou'regoingtogoontodevelopadditionalautoimmuneconditions.

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Really,thelifestyleinterventionsthatyou'vebeenmakingareworkingtogetatthecoreandtoslowdowntheautoimmuneprogressionandtoreversethatautoimmuneconditionsjustlikeyousaid,“There'snotaSynthroidorthere’snotahormoneforeveryautoimmunecondition.”

DeannaKelemen: [00:32:00]

Ifthere'sonethingthatIwishIknew30yearsagothatthatwouldbeitthatit'snotamatterjusttake,figureoutyourthyroiddose,takethatmedicineandgoonwithyourlife.IwishIknewthat.Ididn'tevenknowthattherewasanincreasedlikelihoodofautoimmunedisease.IfIknewthattherewasstuffyoucoulddotopreventthatfromhappening,it'sloteasiertopreventit-

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Absolutely.

DeannaKelemen: …thanitistogetittogoaway,I'mdiscovering.


Absolutelyandthankyousomuchforsharingthatbecausethat'soneofmybiggestfrustrationswithconventionalmedicine,asmuchasIreallyappreciatehavingconventionalmedicineonmysidewheneversomethinggoeswrong,it'sIguesssuchavoidthatwe'renotinformingandeducatingpatientsaboutautoimmunity,howitcanbeprogressiveandhowyouneedtodoalotmorethanjusttakemedications.I'msogladthatyouwereabletofigurethisoutandI'msogladthatyou'reworkingonyourhealth.

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DeannaKelemen: I'mworkingandit'saworkinprogress.


Whyisitthatsomanypeoplehavefoundthattheycan'tfindtheanswerdownattheirlocaldoctor’soffice?Istheresomethingbrokenwiththeconventionalmedicalmodel?Whyarethetreatmentsforthyroiddiseasesolimitedandsocookiecutterforaconditionthathasvariouscausativefactorsforeachindividual?Isconventionalmedicinetreatingtherootcauseofthyroiddisease?


TheconventionalmodelIthinkworksattheextremes.Whensomeone'sglandistotallyshutofforthey'vegotcancer,wherethey'reinhyperthyroidstorm,thosearetimestowherereallymanagingthosesymptomsatallcostsmakesperfectsenseandit'sjustified,butforsomanypeople,thisisachronicongoingissue.It'snotamatteroffightingagainstwhat'shappening,it'smatterofreallyunderstandingwhatarethetriggers.Thatdoesn'treallyhappen.I'veoftenthoughtthatIdon'tknowforwhateverreasonthyroiddiseasesisliketheRodneyDangerfieldofmedicine,likenoonetakesitseriously,noonethinksaboutit.Ithinksomuchofmedicineisdrivenbyexcitingnewmedicationsorfancyhigh-endproceduresandthere'sreallynotthatthereintermsofmanaginganddiagnosingandhelpingthosewithHashimoto's,there'snobigincentivesthatdoctorshavetogodeeperwithit.Inmanycases,they'retold,“Yeah,thisishappening,butcomewhentheglandshutsoff,comebackwhenthishappened.”

Then,whentheydocomeback,there'sreallyonemedication,onetestandthishugerangeofnormalthatthey'reputwithin.Thevastmajoritydonotreallygetthesymptomsresolvedtheystartedwith.Givenhowprevalentthisis,there'salotofpeoplewithalotofsufferingthatneedtodobetter.

PearlThomas: [00:34:30] [00:35:00]

Themedicalcommunitytoday,thewaythey'remistreatingorthey'remisdiagnosingHashimoto'sThyroiditisisthatthey'reonlytreatingthesymptomsmostofthetime.I'mnotsayingthatacrosstheboard,butgoingintoyourprimarycarephysician,they'regoingtojusttreatthesymptomandthey'regoingtosendyouhomewithamedicationandthat'sit.That'sall.That'swhatit'sbeensince1950.Thestruggleisthatpeoplethinkthatthere'snewchoicesthattheyhave.Theygointothedoctor'sofficeandtheylistentotheirdoctorandthat'sthepersontheytrust.Theydon'ttrustthemselvesenoughtogooutandeducatethemselvesortheydon'tfeelinspired,theydon'tknowhow.Theydon'tevenknowit'sanoption.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Whatweresomeofthethingsthatyouwentthrough,sothateverybodyelsewho'slisteningwillbeawareofthingstolookoutforthatyoufeltlikedelayedyourprogressormadeyoufeelworse?

DebbieSteinbock: [00:35:30]

That'sagreatquestion.Iwouldsaythebiggestisbeingoverdosedonmedication.WhenIfirstgotdiagnosedandmyTSHwasreallyreallyhigh,whatIwantedtodowasseewhatIcoulddototreatmyselfnaturally,butIwasreallyadvisedthatthebestoptionformewastogetonthyroidhormonebecausepeoplewereworriedaboutmybreastmilksupplyandallthosethingsthatIneededtokeepupasanewmom.Igotonathyroidmedication.IactuallystartedonArmour.WhenmyTSHwastestedaboutamonthafterandwasstillprobablyaround5atthattime,mydoseofmedicationwasdoubled.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Wow,sothat'sahugeincrease.

DebbieSteinbock: Yeah,itwentfromlikethreequartersofagraintoagrainandahalf. [00:36:00] Dr.IzabellaWentz:

Yeahthat'stooquickand-

DebbieSteinbock: Exactly.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: …toohigh.


Thatthrewmeintomonthsofbeinghyperthyroid.IhadallthesymptomsthatIexplainedbefore,plusmyeyeswereburning.IwassleepingabouttwohoursatnightbecauseIjustcouldn'tgetmyselftocalmdownandrest.Ihadanxietyforthefirsttimeinmylife,thingsliketakingmydaughterona

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playdateorgoingtoaparkwerelikefrighteningtome.AsI'msureyouknow,onceyoukindofoverdoseonmedicationlikethateventhoughIwastaperingdownslowly,ittookweeks,ifnotmonthstoreallykindofresumefunction.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Feellikeyourselfagain.

DebbieSteinbock: Exactly.

Dr.EricOsansky: [00:37:00] [00:37:30]

Whensomeonegoestoamedicaldoctororanendocrinologist,theapproachdependsonthedoctor.Unfortunately,alotofendocrinologistwillrecommendradioactiveiodineasthefirstlineoftreatmentforsomeonewithhyperthyroidismorGraves’disease.Otherdoctorsmightrecommendanti-thyroidmedicationforaprolongedperiodoftimesuchasmethimazoleorPTUandhopethatthepersongoesintoremission.Theproblemis,ofcourse,isthatneitheronearedoinganythingforthecourseoftheproblem.Withradioactiveiodine,oncenotonlyissomeonegettingexposedtoradiation,butoftentimeswillresultinthepersonneedstotakethyroidhormonemedicationonapermanentbasis,whichsomepeopledookay,butagainit'snotaddressingthecauseoftheproblem.Withmedicationsuchasmethimazole,it'sfine,somepeopledoneedtotakethemedicationonatemporarybasis,butstillit'snotaddressingthecause.That'stheproblemwithmostmedicaldoctors,mostendocrinologistsisthattheyjustresorttoeitherradioactiveiodineoragaintheymightrecommendthemedication.Whilesomepeoplemightneedconventionaltreatment,stilltheydon'tdoanythingtoaddressthecauseoftheproblem.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Whathappenswhensomebodygetsradioactiveiodine?Whatdoesitdo? [00:38:00] Dr.EricOsansky:

Well,whatradioactiveiodineis,againitisprettymuchdamagingthecellsofthethyroidgland.It'sobliteratingthatthyroidgland,sothat'stheirgoal.Thegoalistodestroythethyroidglandandthereasonforthat,intheireyes,hypothyroidismiseasiertomanagethanhyperthyroidism.That'sessentiallythegoal-todestroythethyroid,putthepersononthyroidhormonemedicationandlivehappilyeverafter.

[00:38:30] Dr.IzabellaWentz:

Wehaveapersonwhohasanimmunesystemimbalancethatresultsinanoveractivethyroidandthesolutionistokillthethyroid?


That'stheirsolution,correct,sothatiscorrectwhengoingtoanendocrinologist,eventhoughit'sanimmunesystemcondition,nothingisdonefortheimmunesystem.Theyjustfocussolelyonthethyroidgland.Therearesomepeoplethatreceiveradioactiveiodineandthey'refine,they'rehappywiththedecision.Theproblemisthatifyoudon'taddressthatimmunesystem,thenotherautoimmuneconditionsarelikelytodevelopovertime.That'stheissueforeventhosewhoarehappywiththedecisiontoreceiveradioactiveiodine.


Yeah,I'veseenpeoplewhohadGraves'diseaseandthentheygotradioactiveiodine,thinkingthatwasthecurethatwasthesolutionandsothey’dgetthatproceduredone,thenthey'dhavetotakethyroidmedications.Then,afewyearsdowntheroad,theydeveloprheumatoidarthritisoranothertypeofautoimmunecondition.Itreallygoesbacktogoingaftertherootcauseandsotherootcauseisgoingtobetheimmunesystemimbalance,theautoimmunitythatwehavetogoafter.Sometimes,theyactuallyrecommendasurgicalremovalofthethyroidglandaswell.

Dr.EricOsansky: Sometimestheydo.Usually,they’llresorttoreactiveiodinebeforesurgery,butitdependsonthedoctoranditdependsonthesituation.Ifsomeonehasthyroideyediseaseforexample,thenalotoftimesgettingradioactiveiodinewillworsenthethyroideyedisease.Theymightnotdotheradioactiveiodine,butinsteadmightresortinthyroidsurgeryinthatcase.


Whataresomeoftheconsequencesofsurgicalremovalofthethyroidgland?

Dr.EricOsansky: Yeah,hypothyroidismagainisprobablythebiggestonebecauseifyoudogetacompletethyroidectomy,thenthereforewe-

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Dr.IzabellaWentz: Younolongerhaveathyroid.

Dr.EricOsansky: Yeah,exactly,sothenyouaregoingtohavetotakethyroidhormonemedication.Ofcourse,therearerisks,anyriskswithsurgery,soanysurgicalprocedurecomeswithcertainriskssuchaswhentheydothyroidsurgery,theycouldcausedamagetotheparathyroidglandsorthelaryngealnerves.


Whatdoesthatmeanforapersoniftheyhavedamagetotheirparathyroidgland?

Dr.EricOsansky: Well,probablyitmeansusuallymoremedication,soitmeansnotonlythyroidhormonemedication,butothertypesofmedications.Again,alsoweoverlook,therecouldbesideeffectstotheanesthesiawhengettingsurgery.That’smaybeasmallpercentagethatwe'relookingat,butit'sstillariskandit'sariskthatmanytimesisunnecessarytotake.

[00:41:00] MikeAdams: [00:41:30] [00:42:00]

Thepoliticsofthemedicaltreatmentsforthyroiddiseaserevealreallydeepcorruptionintheindustry.Itkindofremindsmeofthecancerindustry.There'ssomuchprofittobehadfromthediseaseandthere'ssolittleprofittobefoundindoctorsshowingpeoplehowtohealandhowtomaintaintheirownhealthintheirownlifestyles.I'mconvincedthatthevastmajorityofpatientswhoaretreatedwithradiationtreatmentstodestroythethyroidandthenreplaceitwiththethyroiddrugsareinfactaproductofmedicalquackery.Ithinkinnearlyeverycase,thethyroidglandcanberestoredtofullfunction,butthedoctorswhoareengagedinthisprocessarereallyignorant.They'renottrainedinnutrition,they'renottrainedinhealing.They'retrainedindiseasediagnosis,they'retrainedperhapsinsurgicalremovaloforgansorradiotherapytreatmentoforgans,whichmeansthatthedestructionofthoseorgansandofcourseprescribingpharmaceuticals.They'renottrainedinteachingpatientshowtopreventdisease,howtoovercomedisordersandhowtohealthroughnutritionandchangesinlifestyleanddiet.

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“Let'sjustburnthatthingoutandthenwe'llreplaceitwithdrugs,problemsolved,”thisisthewayalotofdoctorsthink.It'sreallymedicalmalpractice.It'sacruelformofbadmedicineandit'srootedIthinkintheprofitmotive.There'ssomuchmoneyinthis,inthedrugsandinthetreatmentsandinthereturnvisits.Also,there'smoneyinalltheotherdiseasesthattendtoflourishthroughoutthebodywhenthethyroidglandisnottreatedbacktoastateofgoodhealth.Yougettherippleeffectofdiseaseanddisordersthroughoutthebodyandthat’smoremoney.

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Sadly,Ithinkatypicaldoctorlooksatapoorlyfunctioningthyroidpatientandjustseesdollarsigns.Theydon'tseesomeonewhocanberestoredtogoodhealthiftheyonlyhadtherightknowledgeandtherightnutrientsandtherightstrategy.Youknowwhatirradiatingyourownglandsandpermanentlydamagingthemthatshouldn'tbecalledmedicine.It'sabarbarousact.It'snotevenhealing.It'snotevenbeingadoctor.Youshouldinsteadfirstdothethingsthatrequirenointerventionorminimalinterventionsuchas,“Hey,haveyoutriedchangingyourdiet,haveyoutriedavoidingtheexposuretothesetoxins,haveyoutriedtheselifestylechangesorthesenutritionalsupplementsbecausethosethingsarelow-cost,they'relow-riskandiftheywork,thenyouhaveyourownthyroidglandforeverandyoucanmakeyourownthyroidmolecules.Youdon'tneedsyntheticdrugsinordertodothatforyou.Yourentirebodywasbornwiththeblueprinttodefenditselfandtakecareofitselfandmoderateitsownhormones.”

[00:44:00] It'saformofmedicalmadnesstothinkthatyoushoulddestroyyourorgansandthenreplacetheirfunctionswithprescriptionpharmaceuticalsfortherestofyourlife.That'snothealing.That'snotmedicine.That'sjustexploitingpatientsforprofit.

Dr.AmyMyers: [00:44:30] [00:45:00]

It'sreallymyonlyregretinmylifeisnothavingmythyroid,butIdidn'tknowmethen.I’vehelpedmanymanypeoplereverseallkindsofchronicconditions,reversetheirautoimmunedisease,reversedevenGraves’disease.It'salwaysbittersweetwhenthathappens,butit'swhatdrivesmeandwhatgetsmeupeverydayissavingsomebodyfromthefatethatIhadofhavingtodosomethingwhereyou'retakingtoxicmedicationthatcancauseyourlivertofailtohavingsomethingextremeofhavingoneofyourvitalmajororganseitherblownuporrippedout.Withinsurancecompanies,it'scheaper,

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[00:45:30]

itdoesn'trequiresurgery.Thehealing,sotospeak,iseasierandsoinsurancecompaniesthat'sthefirstthingontheirlististheradioactiveiodineandthenmaybesurgery.KnowledgeispowerandcertainlyIdon'tjudgeanybodyiftheywanttogothroughconventionalmedicine.Imeanthatiseveryone'sprerogative.ImeanIjustwanttogivepeopleinformation,sotheyknowthere'sanotherchoice,soiftheywanttotaketheotherchoice,theycan.Iftheydon'twanttothat'salsofine.

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Conventionalmedicine,I'maconventionallytraineddoctor,therearesomereallywonderfulthingsaboutconventionalmedicine,particularlywhenyouareinanemergencysituation.Withthethyroidablation,you'retakingthisbigdoseofiodineandjustincasepeopledon'tknow,butourthyroidcontainsthemostamountofiodineofanywhereinourbodyandsoitjustsucksupthatradioactiveiodineandliterallyit'screatinganatomicbombinyourthyroid.Itdoesn'tspareanypartofthethyroid.Whereaswithsurgery,youhaveasurgeoncuttingandtheycouldliterallycutoutpartorhalfofyourthyroidandleavepartandthat'sanokaythingtodoifyouhavetodothatbecauseatleastthenyouhavesomefunctioninggland.Imyselfhavenofunctioninggland,soIamdestinedtotheamountofsupplementalthyroidhormonethatItakeeveryday.Ifyougetsickoryou'restressedoryouhaveaninjury,yourthyroidisgoingtokickinmoreandproducemorethyroidhormonetohelpyouovercomethatillnessorthatinjuryorthatstressfulperiod.Idon'tgetthatbenefitunlessIweretotakeadditionalsupplementalthyroidhormone,butIdon'tdothat.Igetthesameamounteveryday.Somethyroidisbetterthannothyroidforsure.


Makesmesadanditmakesmeangryjustbecauseagainmanyofthesepeoplearegettingtheseprocedures,manypeoplearegettingradioactiveiodineorsomeofthemaregettingthyroidsurgeryandtheydon'tneedtogetit.Theproblemismostofthesepeoplejustdon'tknow,sothat'swhytheylistentotheadvicefortheirmedicaldoctor,listentotheadviceoftheendocrinologistjustbecausetheydon'thavetheknowledge.Theydon'tknowthatGraves’diseaseisanimmunesystemconditionorsomeofthemmightevenknowthatit'sanimmunesystemcondition,buttheydon'tthinkthere'sanythingthatcanbedone,sotheyjustfollowtheadviceoftheirmedicaldoctorandjusthopeforthebest.


Thetruthiswehavetotakechargeofourownhealthandthehealthofthosethatdependonus.Ihavebeenthereandtheexpertsandpatientsfeaturedinthisdocumentaryserieshavebeenthereaswell.We'vecometogetherinthisdocumentaryseriestoshareourexperiencewithyou,sothatyoucanlearnfromourtriumphsandfromourmistakes.Ihopethatyouwillcomeonthisjourneywithus.We'llbegladtoshowyoutheway.

DanaTrentini: [00:48:00] [00:48:30]

Iwonderthiswholethingaboutbeingagoodgirl,Iwasraisednotto,youdon'ttestyourteachers,youdon'ttestyourparents,youlikelistenandyoufollowtherules.Iwaslikealwaysthatgirlthatjustfollowedthefreakingrule,likewhyamIfollowingtheruleswhenIlostababybecauseIfollowedtherulesbecauseIwasagoodgirl.IknowIwasbeingagoodgirl.WhenIlostmychild,Iremembercallingandsaying,“I'mnotfeelinggood,somethingdoesn’tfeelright.”They’dsay,“Wellyou'repregnant,you'renotsupposedtofeelright,you'repregnant.”Iwouldgo,“Somethingdoesn'tfeelright.”Theywouldsay,“Ohyou'refine,everything'sfine.”I’dgo,“Okay,”andIwouldhangupthephoneandI’dstillfeelsick.ThenwhenIcallagain,Iwoulddothesamething.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Youfeltbad?

DanaTrentini: [00:49:00]

IfeltreallyunwellandIfelttoxicandhowliketheyshutmedown,Ihavenoideahowithappened,butIthinkthat'smyown…Idon'tthinkit'sjustme,Ithinkwhenyou'retaughttobethatwayoryoureallybelievedoctorknowsbest,yougetshutdownreallyfast.Iwonderhowmanywomenaregoingintotheirdoctor’sofficesandtheygetshutdownandmaybethat'sthewholethingaboutHypothyroidMomis,“Okaywait,ohwait,someone’sshuttingyoudown,yougottolikestandupforyourselfandwalkout,firethemandgolikefindsome-“

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Gotonextdoor.

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DanaTrentini: Go,youknow.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Now,bothofyourparents,they'renurses,they'rehealthcareprofessionalsandtheywantedtogetyouthebestpossiblecare,soyouwenttoapediatricendocrinologist.

[00:49:30] MichelleCampeau:

Yes,yesIdid.Asamatteroffact,hewasoneofthebestpediatricendocrinologistsatthattime.HeworkedatabighospitalinNewYorkCityandhewasdefinitelywell-known.Throughoutmylife,I'vealwaysbeentreatedbygenerallythebestthatIcouldaccess.I'vebeenveryluckyinthatsense,butit'sstillbeenajourney.


Foralotofpeoplethatgotdiagnosisisgoingtobehalfthebattle,sojustgettingtheproperdiagnosis,itjustfeelslike,wowyou'refinallyvalidatedforeverythingthatyou’vebeengoingthroughandhere’sthetreatment.It'slikeyourideoffintotherainbowwithyourmagictreatmentsandyoustartfeelingbetter.Itwasn'tlikethatforyou,wasit?

MichelleCampeau: [00:50:30]

No,itwasn't.Iexperiencedalotthroughmychildhoodandintomyteenyearsthatwasn'tquitecaught.IrememberwhenIwasyoungerIhadlikedepressivethoughtsandIwaswaytooyoung.At12yearsold,youshouldnotbehavingdepressivethoughts.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: No.


Istillwasbeingtreated,Ididn'tknowthattheywerecorrelated.Iwasquitechunky.Iguessthat'sthewordthat'swhatIwasdescribedatleastasbeforeIhitpuberty.Iwasonthyroidmedication.Icontinuedtobeonthyroidmedicationthroughoutmylifeandagainstilldidn'tmakeassociations.IrememberonetimewhenIwasabout19,20,IdidgotoonedoctorandIsaid,“I'mgainingweightandIjustkindoffeellikethatmightbethyroiddisease.CouldyoucheckoutmyHashimoto's,couldyoucheckoutmythyroidlevels?”Shesaidthatshewouldandmylevelscamebacknormal,butIdon'tknowwhatthatmeantatthattime.ShetoldmethatIhad“forkinmouth”diseaseandthatIshouldeatless.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: “Forkinmouth”disease?


Yes,yesIhad“forkinmouth”diseaseandthatIshouldeatlessandthereforemyweightissueswillbesolvedanditwasnotathyroidproblem.Unfortunately,Ilovemyparentsandtheydodotheirbestbyme.However,theydidalsobelievethattakingapilleverydaymadeHashimoto'sandthyroiddiseasenon-existent.Iacceptedthatasrealityaswell.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Basically,theblamewasplacedonyou,soyouweretoldthatitwassomethingthatyouweredoingthatwascausingyourweightgainthatitdidn'thaveanythingtodowithyourthyroid.

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Inthisdayandage,conventionalmedicinedoesnothavetheanswerstoyourthyroidconditionandmostoftheexpertsandpatientsfeaturedinthisdocumentaryhadtotakethingsintotheirownhandstofindsolutionsforthemselves,theirlovedonesandtheirpatients.Wewanttobringthesesolutionsoutintotheopen,sothateverysinglepersonwiththyroiddiseasecanbenefit.Thisiswhywe'vecometogethertocreatethisdocumentaryseriestoshowyouthewaybacktoyourhealth.Thetruthisyouneedtogettotheunderlyingrootcauseofthyroiddiseasetotrulyrecoveryourhealth.

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Whatarethetruerootcausesofthethyroiddisease?Whataretherootcausesthathavecreatedthyroiddiseaseforyouortheexposuresthatyou'refacingthatareputtingyouatanextremeriskofthyroiddisease?Doesitshockyouthatthisissomeofthemostsecretiveinformationonthistopic?Ittookmealmost30yearstodiscoverthisandalmostcostmeeverythingIloved,mycareer,mymarriageandmydreams.Therootcauseofthyroiddiseaseisvitalforyoutounderstand.It'soneofthecorekeystothesecretofhowtonotonlyreversethyroiddisease,butpreventitfromhappeninginthefirstplace.Everyoneisabitdifferent,buttherearerootcausecommonalities.Theunderlyingcausesofthyroiddiseasearealwaysrootedinnutrientdeficiencies,foodsensitivities,animpaired

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abilitytohandlestress,animpairedabilitytohandletoxins,apermeablegutbarrierandchronicinfections.Let'sexplorethecauseandthetreatmentsfurther.

[00:53:30] Goingintotherootcausesandsomeofthetriggers,weknowthattheratesofthyroiddiseasehavebeenincreasingoverthelastfewyearsandit'snotnecessarilyjustbecausewe'rediagnosingitbetter.Canyoutalkaboutwhatyouthinksomeofthecausesmightbe?

Dr.AlanChristianson: [00:54:00] [00:54:30] [00:55:00]

Yeah,clearlyit'sbeenontheincrease,thyroidcancer,thyroidautoimmunityandmuchmorecommonamongwomen,we'resayingabouta8to1female-to-maleriskdifference.Wethinkthatit'sreallyaperfectstormofthreelargefactors.We'vegotthegenes,sothefirststepisyougottobecautiousaboutchoosingyourparents,howeverthatworksout,Idon'tknow.There'ssomegeneticsusceptibilityandthenthere'ssomeforeignsubstances,soyourthyroidlikethere'stheshowsaboutthehoarders,likethoseneverletgoofthings.Yourthyroid’skindofahoarder.Itneedsiodine,buttheamountthatitneedsiswayabovewhatyourbloodcarries,soitconcentratesitandpullsitin.That'sokaythat'sgood,butthedrawbackisthere’salotofweirdchemicalsnowadaysthatconfusethatconcentratorthatyourconcentratorthinks,“Well,thatlookslikeiodine,”butit'snot.WehaveperchlorateforexampleinthesoilsintheSouthwesthereorwehadsomeonejusttheotherthedaywho'sworkinginaviation,inmanagingtheairplanesoutinthetarmacandwhatnotandexposedtojetfuelandyougetperchloratefromthataswell.Then,wehavethingslikeagainiodinetoomuchortoolittle,mercuryfromhighfructosecornsyrup,believeitornot,isactuallyasourceofmercury.Dentalamalgams,fishandseafood,wehavecadmiumfromsecondhandsmoke,fromsmokedirectly,frompesticides,buttheseareallexamples.

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There'sabout300otherthingshavebeendocumentedtobeculprits.Theseareallthingsthatgethoardedwithinthethyroid.Theybuildupandthemoregeneticallysusceptibleyouaretothyroiddisease,thelessweirdstuffittakes.Itmightjustbewakingupinthemodernworldandtakingadeepbreath.That'salltheexposureyouneed.Tosetthestage,thefirsttwosteps,yourgenesaresusceptibleandyou'vegotsomethingweirdinyourthyroid.Now,thelastpartissomeimmunestressorandyourimmunesystemIthinkaboutitlikehomesecurityguard.Yougotthispersonwho'sarmedandwho’stherewatchingoutandifsomeone'sgotamaskonandbreakawindow,triestogetinlateatnight,theguard’sgoingtoshoothim.That'showitworkswell.That'syourimmunesystemwardingoffabacteriaorvirusorafungi,buttheproblemisintheanalogythatimmunesystemcanhavevariousstressorsonit.Imaginethatyourguardisworkingthreejobs,imagineyourguardislikeheppeduponfiveRedBullstostayawakeallnight.Inthatscenario,theoverloadedguardmighthearyourdogandfreakoutandshootyourdog.Awfulasthatisthat'syourimmunesystemwhenit'sunderstress.

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You'vegotchronicinfections,you'vegotahorriblerhythmofsleepinyourbody’scircadiancycle,maybethere'ssomenutrientsyou'relowin,maybethere'ssomeallergensorotherstressorsandnowthatguardisjustampedout.Yourimmunesystemisfightingthingsoffleftandrightandhere'syourthyroidwithweirdstuffinitandit'screatinginflammationalreadyandit'sgeneratingfreeradicals,sonowyouattackit.That'sthebigpictureofthefactorsthatarethere,genesaresusceptible,there'swaystogetinthethyroidandthere'ssomethingthatactivatestheimmunesystem.


Doesyourthyroiddiseasehappenbyaccident?Whyonepersonandnotanotheroristhistrulyasituationofcauseandeffect?Whatabouttoxicexposure?Didyouknowthatthechemicalsyou'reexposingyourselftoaredamagingyourthyroidfunctionunwittinglybit-by-bit?

MikeAdams: [00:57:30] [00:58:00]

Anytimewe'relookingatthyroiddiseaseordisorders,wehavetorememberthatwebelieveincauseandeffect.It'simpossibletothinkthatdiseasehappensbymagicordarkvoodooorsomethingthatit'sjustspontaneousandwithoutcause.Thatdoesn'texist.Weliveinacause-and-effectreality,whichmeansthatifthereisadiseaseoradisorderorasymptomordiagnosis,thenitmusthavehadacauseandifyoustarttobacktrackthatandlookatthecausesofwhatleadstothesethings,thenyouhavetogetintobiochemistry,thelawsofphysicsandchemistryandthewaythebodyworksandthewayitinteractswithpotentialtoxinsthatexistsintheenvironmentandtheninfuseourbodiesandgetinto

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ourbloodandgetintoourorgansandgetintoourthyroid.OnceyoustarttoopenthatPandora'sbox,ohwowwatchoutbecausenowyoustarttorealizethattheaveragewellwaterinAmericacontains300differentchemicals.Imeanveryminuteamounts,butthey'reallthereandtheycreateachemicalcocktail.

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Theaveragepharmaceuticalmightbecontaminatedwithdifferentchemicals.Atypicaldietarysupplement,evenacleanonewillhavetraceamountsofdifferentthingsinitthatreallydon'tbelongtheresuchaspesticidesorevenGMOsorherbicidechemicals.There'sglyphosatefoundinorganicCaliforniawineforexample.Therearetraceamountsofheavymetalsanddifferentthingslikecacao,whichisotherwiseaveryhealthysuperfood.You'vegotallthesesourcesandthenyou'vegottheplasticschemicals,thephthalatesandthebisphenolsandallofthesedifferenttypesofchemicalsclasses,carbamateclasspesticides,organophosphates.Allofthesethingsaddupandtheycreateatoxicstew.Now,asascientist,IlookatthesechemicalsinthelaboratoryandIcanquantitatethemindifferentsubstances.Icantellyouhowmuchcarbamatepesticideisinthisfoodorwhatquantityofbenzenesareinthisglassofwaterforexample.

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Whatscientistshaveneverdoneistoexaminethenegativesynergisticeffectsofthechemicalcocktails.Inotherwords,they'veneverreallyaskedthequestionorconductedclinicaltrialstofindouttheanswerstowhathappenswhenyoucombinetheplasticschemicalsandthehormonedisruptorsandthepesticidesandtheherbicidesandthemedicationsandtheindustrialchemicalsandthetracesolventsthatexistsineverything,whathappenswhenallofthatcombinesinyourbodyandperhapsyoualsohaveaniodinedeficiencyandyou'reexposedfluorideontopofthat?Thisiswhereyoureallygethypertoxicity.Thisiswhereyourunintoamassivebiologicalcrisisbecausenowyourlivercan'tprocessallofthesetoxins,notsufficientlytogetthemoutofyoursystem.Youcan'teliminatethetoxinsquicklyenoughthroughurineandrespirationandsweating.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: We'regoingtobediscussingallthemostvaluableinsightsintohowtoavoidtoxinsthatarelikelyaffectingyourlifewhileyouhavenoknowledgeofwhat'shappeningtoyou.Wewillsharethesevitaltruthswithyou,sobesuretoshowupforalltheupcomingepisodes.Gettingtothebottomofthyroiddiseaseisessential.There'stoomuchontheline,fartoomuch.

[01:00:30] MichelleCampeau: [01:01:00]

Havinganoveractivethyroid,yeah,ittookawayalotofmylife.Mylifeforeverchanged.Sincethepregnancies,sincethepostpartumdepression,myhusbandandIwerearguingquitefrequently.Ijustwantedtogetbetter.Hedidn'tfullyunderstand.Hecalledmelazy.I'msorryforsayingthatbuthedid.HethoughtthatIwasnotlivinguptomyfullestpotentialandthatIwaswastingtoomuchtimeonthecomputer.HethoughtIwasshoppingforadoctor.IdidmybesttoexplaintohimwhatIknew,butnoteveryoneunderstands.Thisisn'teasy.

[01:01:30] [01:02:00]

Therearethousandsofpatientsoutthere,millions,Ihavenoidea,I'mnotgoingtoquantifyit,butthereareenoughpatientsouttherethatthisisn'teasytounderstand.Imeanthere'ssomanycomponentsandIcouldn'texpressit.I'mnowdivorcedandlookingbackonthings,IjustwishheunderstoodIwassickyearsago,yearswhenIwassearching,“foradoctor.”Isawoneparticulardoctor.Hewasonthebesttopthyroiddoctorlistandofcoursethoselists,youalwayshavetodouble-check.Wealwaysrecommendyoucheckthemout.Imadeanappointmentwithhimjustoutofhope.Irememberduringtheappointmenthetoldmethatthyroidpatientsbelievethateverythinghappenstothembecauseoftheirthyroid.Hesaid,“Evensomeofmypatientshavetoldmethattheirdivorcesareresultsofbeinghypothyroid.”

[01:02:30] [01:03:00] [01:03:30]

Lookingbackonthatitwasalmostprophetic.Hedoesn'tgetitbecausewhenIlookbackonit,youhavetwoyoungpeople,justhaveahouseandthreeyoungdaughters.We'rejusttryingtomakeendsmeet,economicdownturn,addinasickwifewhoseemslikeshe'sahypochondriac,it'sokay,stillIrise.IwillkeeponwalkingandIwillkeeponfightingandIwillkeeponmaintainingmyhealth.Ilosteverything,Imeaninthatsense,myhusband,myhouse,butit'sokay.Youmoveon.Ihavemydaughters,buteachofthemfromwhatIunderstandhavea50%chanceofHashimoto's,especiallywithmyfamilydynamic,myfather,mysister,myaunt,myuncle.Allofthemalsohaveautoimmune

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disease.Intheend,Istillhavetofightnotjustformyself.It'sbeenformydaughters.Ifitcan’tchangeformygeneration,ithastochangeforthenext.


Therelationalimpactissomethingthat’ssooftenbeenoverlooked.Behindabrokenrelationship,cloakedandraisedvoices,arguments,accusationsandabandonment,there'softenafrightenedpersoncryingoutforhelp,yearningforunderstandingandbeggingforhealthandhealing.Rightafterwefirstgotmarried,MichaelbuiltthisbedforusandIcouldn'tsleepinthebedbecauseIwasallergictoit.IwouldhavecoughingfitseverynightwhileIwastryingtosleepinabed.Forthefirstfewmonthsofourmarriage,IhadtosleeponthecouchbecauseIcouldn'ttoleratethebedandIalsohadsuchbadacidrefluxthatitkeptmeandmyhusbandawakeformostofthenightbecauseIwouldjuststartcoughinginthemiddleofnight.Alotofmysymptomsstartedinmymid-20safterIgotmarried,Ijuststartedhavingmoreandmoresymptoms.

[01:04:30]

Hewassortoflike,“Okay,well,wegotmarriedandallofasudden,youstartedfallingapart,whathappened,what'sgoingonwithyou?”ThatwasreallyhardformetohearbecauseIwassupposedtobeinmyprimeandit'slikealldownhillfromhereanditwasjustreallydecliningatarapidrate,wheresureIwastiredwhenwegotmarried,butallofasuddenIwassleepingthewholeday.Iwasgoingwithhimtobedatnineo'clockatnight.Hewaswakingupforworkatthreeorfourinthemorning,Iwaswakingupatnine.

[01:05:00] [01:05:30] [01:06:00]

Iremembertherewerejustdays,wherehe'dbeworkingalldayandhe'dcomehomeandIhadjustbeenrestingthewholedayandhe'dhavetocookformeandIjustfeltworthlessbecauseIfeltlikeIreallywasn'tcontributinganythingtosociety,ourrelationship.I'dalwaysbeenkindofago-getteranditwaslikeveryveryhardformetogothroughthattoseejustallofthesethingsbeingtakenfrommethatIcouldn'tevensleeponabedandIcouldn'tevensleepatnightbecauseIwasconstantlycoughing.Then,Idevelopedcarpaltunnelinbothofmyarms.Iusedtovisitpeoplewithdisabilitiesintheirhomestohelptooptimizetheirmedications,oftentimestakingthemoffofmedications,sothey'dhaveabetterlife.PartofthatwaswritingalotofreportsandIlovemyjob,Ilovedvisitingwithmyclients,butthecarpaltunnelpreventedmefromdoingthesereportsbecausemyarmshurtsobadlywheneverIhadtowrite.Itwasjustconstantly,everymonthIstartedgettingnewsymptoms,soIstartedgettingjointpainsandallergies.Itwaslikereallymybodywasjustbreakingitselfapart.

IfeltlikeIwasfailingmyhusbandandmyparentswhoworkedsohardtogetmetotheUnitedStates,sothatIcanhaveabetterlifeandIfeltlikeIwasn'tlivinguptothatbecauseIhadbrainfogbecauseIwastiredallthetime.Icouldn'tdothethingsIwantedtodoinlife.

[01:06:30] Thetruthiswe'veallbeenjudgedbyothersandmanyofushaveevenjudgeourselvesinanegativewayasaresultofourhealthcondition.Ithurts,butyoucanfindhealing,butthedrivetohealhastocomefromyou.Thepeopleinyourlifemaynotbereadyorabletosupportyou.Ifyou'retoldit'sinyourhead,youhavethechoicetobelievethemandcoverunderyourshellorstandfirminyourpower,advocateforyourselfandtakebackyourhealth.You'vegottobepreparedtowalkpastyourshame,standforyourselfandfindyourvoice.

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Ifeelalive.Ifeellight.Ifeelempowered.IfeellikeIcantakeontheworld.PeopletoldmethatIwouldneverbeabletoovercomeHashimoto'sthattherewasnothingthatIcouldchangeandIdidit.PeopletoldmethatwasimpossibleandI'mdoingtheimpossibleandthatmakesmefeelprettypowerful.Ifeelpowerful,fearless,unstoppable.NowadaysthatI'vebeenabletotakeonHashimoto'sandI'vehadsomanygreatpeoplebymysideandnowwe'recreatingarevolutiontohelpotherwomenandothermendothesamething.

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WhenmymomfoundoutIhadHashimoto's,shesaid,“Thisissomethingwecangetthroughtogether.Icanhelpyougetthroughthis.Let'sdothistogether.”Shesaid,“IfIcouldtakeitfromyou,Iwouldtakeitonformyself,butI'mheretowalkwithyouonthisjourney.”ItmeanttheworldtometohavethewomanIadmirethemostsupportmethroughthis.itjustreallymakesmewanttocrywhenIthinkaboutthepeopleinmylife,likemyhusbandwhohavereallystuckwithmethroughthiswhole

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entirejourneyandhavebeenthereformeeverymomentoftheway.IthoughtIwasgoingtoloseallofmyhairandhesaid,“Idon'tcarehoney,I’llstillloveyouevenifyouhavetowearawigandI'llbetherethroughitall.”Itjustmakesmerealizehowwonderfulpeopleinthisworldreallyare.

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MyhusbandmademefeelbeautifulevenwhenIfeltlikeaslob,whenIwassleepingallday,whenIwaslosingmyhair,whenIwasreallynastytohimbecauseHashimoto'scancausesomemoodswings.Hewasthereforme,holdingmyhandandtellingmeeverythingwasgoingtobeokay,we’dgetthroughit.We'resoulmates,wecareabouteachother.

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Themostrewardingpartofthisisseeingallthepeople’slivesthathavebeenchangedthroughusingtheseinvaluableprotocolsforsharinginthisseriesyou'reabouttolearn.Asyouhearthesestories,Iencourageyoutoseeyourselforsomeoneyouloveinthisstoryandseeatransformationinhealththatyouandyourlovedonesarebeginningtoexperiencerighthereandrightnow.Ibelieveinyou.Makesurethatyoubelieveinyou.


IknewfromthestartIwasgoingtodosomethingnaturally.Iwasn'tsureifitwouldwork,butIknewthatwasatleastsomethingIwasgoingtotry.Ididn'ttakethemedicationandIstartedtakingsomeherbstomanagethesymptoms.Ofcourse,Ichangedmydietandmanagedthestressandsupplements.Ijustgraduallyimprovedmyhealthandofcoursetherestingheartratewoulddecrease.TheGraves'diseasesymptomswouldimprove.Thebloodtestwouldnormalize.SomeotherteststhatIgotalsoimproved.Then,soIslowlyandeventuallygotintoremissionandjustovertheyearshavemaintainedmyhealth.


Oneofmyfavoritequotesisapersonwhohastheirhealthhasathousanddreams,apersonwhodoesnothasjustone.Hasrecoveringyourhealthhelpedyouachieveanyofthedreamsthatyouthoughtwereneverpossible?

PearlThomas: [01:10:30] [01:11:00]

Absolutely,yeah,Ihaveasix-month-oldbaby.HernameisElleryandshe'samazing.SheisthegreatestgiftIhaveeverreceived,exceptmyhusbandandmybeautifulfamily,butIamjusttrulyblessedtohavebeenrecoveredtobeabletocreatealifethat'shealthyandhappyandexcitedaboutlife.She'sbeenthegreatestbabyforsixmonthsandbeingamomistheonethingthatwasmissingfrommylifethathasmadethegreatestdifferenceformeandmydreams.Mydreams,Idon’tthinkofthemasdreams,Ithinkofthemasgoalsbecausethere'salotofthemoutthererightnow.Thatwasoneofthemistohaveababy.Ihavealotmoreonmyplate.Ihavethingsupmysleeveandforthenot-for-profitthatwe'redoing,Hashimoto'sAwareness,there’salotouttherethatwewanttoserveandreallymakeaglobalimpactlikeyou'redoingIzabella,likethis.Thisisfantastic.We'resoexcitedtobeapartofitineveryway.

MagdalenaWszelaki: [01:11:30] [01:12:00]

ThebiggestkickIgetoutofpeople,womenworkingwithwomeniswhentheysay,“Thishaschangedmypersonality,”becauseit'slikefromthesensitive,annoyed,angry,superemotional,overlytouchyperson,whenyourepairthegut,whichcreatessuchabigconnectionbetweenthegutandbrainandrepairsyourthyroidandthethyroidcontrolssomanyofyourbrainfunctions,thereisapersonalitychangeandforthebettermostofthetime.IfindthattobeoneofthemostempoweringthingsabouttheworkthatIdo.I'veseenitonmyselfbecauseyou'renotthatperson.I'mnotthatmeanbitch,whoishurtingpeopleonpurpose.It'sjustsomethingthatIrealizesomethingwaswrong.Iwassuperluckythatthisdoctorknewrightawaythatthiswasathyroid.Shetested,confirmedit.IhadGraves’.Atleast,IwasinthatcampofbeingdiagnosedreallyquicklywithGraves’andthenlaterwithHashimoto's.

MarcRyan: [01:12:30]

IknewsomethingwasverywrongandIknewthatjustdoingnothingwasreallynotanoption.Atthatpoint,Isaidlike,“Okay,Ihavetodosomethinghereandlikeholycrap,I'monmyown.”WhatIdidwastogothroughthiswholeprocess,whereItookwhatIlearnedfromChinesemedicine,whichiswhatI'mtrainedin.I'vealsostudiedalotoffunctionalmedicine,Itooksomeofthoseideas.Iconsultedcolleaguesandfriendsandputtogetheraplan.Basically,Igotonthisautoimmunediet,tooksupplementsandradicallychangedmylife,likeletgooflotoftheseresponsibilities,stopworking

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[01:13:00]

likeacrazymaniac.Throughthatprocess,Istartedtogetbetter.Ilost25pounds,bloating,inflammation.Istartedgettingmyenergybackandmybrainback.Istartedrecoveringmylife.It'sincredible,likeIliterallyaminthebestshapeofmylife,likeIliterallyhavemoreenergythanIhadsinceIwasmaybeinmy20s.I'm53now.Iworkouteveryday.Sometimes,Idoaerobics.Sometimes,IdoqigongormeditationandTaiChiexercisesandIhavetremendousenergy.

WhenIgetoutofbed,I'mjustsuperexcitedtogetoutofbedbecauseIfeellikeI'vefoundmymissioninlife.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: [01:13:30] [01:14:00] [01:14:30]

Whenyougetyourenergyback,there'sthisquotethatIloveandit'slikewhensleepingwomenawaken,mountainsmove.Trulywhenapersonwho'sbeenfatiguedformanymanyyearsandchronicallyill,alltheyreallywantistogettheirenergyback.Alltheywantistofeelbetter.Onceyougivethemthatthepossibilitiesareendless.I'vehadclientswhohavesaidthattheywentbacktohorsebackriding,whichissomethingthey'dgivenup.Theybecametheirneighborhood’stopbridgeplayers.Theybecamepregnantwhentheygottheirhealthback.I'vehadpeoplewhodecidedtowritenovelsorwritebooksortakeonnewcareersorgohikingorgomountainclimbing.Really,thepossibilitiesareendless.It'swhateverisinyourheartthatyoucan'tgettoobecauseyou'refatiguedandexhaustedthatcanbelifted.Allthosethingsthatyouthinkarejustdistantfantasies,theycanactuallybecomegoalsandrealitiesforyou.Mostdoctorswilltellyouthatthere'snothingyoucandowhenyouhaveHashimoto's,otherthantotakethyroidmedicationsandthattheconditionwilljustkeepgoingonandonuntilthethyroidburnsitselfoutandthatyou'regoingtobeagreaterriskforotherautoimmuneconditions.ThetruthisHashimoto'scanbeputintoremission.Wecaneliminatethesymptoms,wecanreversetheautoimmuneattackonthethyroidglandandinsomecases,wecanevenregeneratethyroidissue.

MaryShomon: [01:15:00] [01:15:30]

We'vegottotakecontrolandhelpourselves.That'snottosayweshouldbeourowndoctors,butweneedtobeourownprojectmanagers.Inasense,Isaylikeyou'retheCEOofyourownhealthcaresystem.Thatmeansthatyou'regoingtobetalkingtothedoctorsandthehealthcarepractitionersandthenutritionistsandyourpharmacistsandallofthepeoplethatcomeintothepictureforyoushouldbepartofyourteam.Yourjobistokeepalltheballsinmotion.Yougottobejugglingthemallandmakingsureeverybodyiscommunicatingbecausenooneelseisgoingtodothatforyou.Wedon'thaveahealthcaresystemthatworkslikethatanymore.Really,Idon'tknowanysystemintheworldthatworksthatway.Idon'tcarewhetherit'sasingle-payerNHSinBritainoryou'reonanHMOintheUSoryou'repayingaprivatedoctorinSouthAmerica,thefactisthejoboffindingtherightpeopleandmakingsurethey'reallcommunicatingandlookingatallthepiecesofthepieisreallyyourjob.

Dr.AvivaRomm: [01:16:00] [01:16:30] [01:17:00]

It'ssopowerfulformeandwhenIthinkaboutitinrelationshiptowomen,particularlywithadrenalissuesandthyroidissues,slowfunctioningthyroid,whatdotheydo?Itmakesyoutired.ItmakesyouwanttosleepandifIthinkaboutaround30millionwomenthatweknowhaveaHashimoto'sdiagnosisorhypothyroiddiagnosisandthemillionsandmillionsofwomenthatdon'tknowtheyhavethisdiagnosis,butaretiredandthemillionsandmillionsofwomenthatdon'tknowthattheymighthaveaslowfunctioningthyroidorthyroiddysfunction.Thathasn'tevenhitthemedicalmainstreamyet,sothey'renotgoingtogetaconventionaldiagnosis.Imeanjustthinkaboutif100millionwomen,evenifamillionwomenwokeuptotheirownempowermentandstartedbringingallofourgiftstotheworld.Ifwecoulddothatthroughthisadrenalthyroidrevolution,throughthethyroidrevolutionthatyou'recreating,wecouldliterallyhaveaforcethatcouldtransformthisworldforwomen,formen,forchildren,foreveryone.Imeanthere'snothingmorebeautifulthatIcanseehappening.It'slikewegettoenjoyourindividuallives,butthenwegettohelpthewholeworldawakentoitsownbeautyanditsownpower,amazing.


Forme,it'sreallyaboutmakingsmallchangesandhonoring,I'mnotgoingtowakeuptomorrowadifferentpersonwithadifferentfeelingaboutmyselfwithatotallyhealedpast,butevenifIcanjustworktomakeonechangeinasmalldirectionthat'sleadingmetoadifferentplacethancontinuallygoingdownthesamepaththatIwasthefirsttime.Youneedtolearntotrust.Youneedtolearntoletgoandyouneedtojuststopfightingandjustrealizethatyouneedtorelaxintothisalittlebitmore

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andthatyou'llbetakencareof.Pleasewatchthisseries.Theinformationinithaschangedmylifeanditcanandwillchangeyourlife,too.

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AlotoftheinformationcontainedintheseriesarethethingsthatIusedtohealmyselffromtwoautoimmunediseases,soIreallywouldencourageyoutowatchitandnotmisstheinformationthat'sgoingtobeprovided.Yeah,Izabellahastouchedmylifealot.AsIsaid,herbookandherblogweresomeofthefirstinformationthatgavemepermissiontokindoftakethemiddlerouteandreallyapproachthingsfromatrulyholisticperspective.Forme,I'vehadthebenefitthatIknownotalotofpeoplegettohaveofactuallyjustgettingtoknowherandbefriendswithherandjustknowingthatsheisatrulygenuinepersonandherintentionsaresotrueandgoodandshewantstoandwillmakechangeinthisworldandhasalready.

Dr.KellyBrogan: [01:19:00] [01:19:30]

Iamatotalbibliophile.Ilovereading,butIalsorecognizethatmostpeopledon'tandthatinfactreadingisalmostsomethingofadying,sortofart,sotospeak.Ialsounderstandthatinthespaceofacoupleofhours,youcouldanexperientialshiftthroughadocumentarythatwouldotherwisehavetakenmoundsofscienceandpanelsofconferenceexpertsandconsultationswithmyriaddoctors.It'sacondensedexperiencereallythatIthinkmanyofusareopento.FormewhenIwatchedFood,Inc.,somanyyearsagothatdocumentarychangedmylife.Itcompletelyawokenme,somethingthatofcoursewasalreadylatentinthere,butitawokeninmeanawarenessthatthenfueledtherestofmyjourneysfor10years.IbelievepassionatelyinthepowerofthedocumentaryandthehumanitythatcancomeacrossinthismediumIthinkisacriticalpieceofwhatitisthatwe'retryingtoconveyinformationally.


Oneofmyreadersreachedouttomeawhileagoandsaid,“Itseemslikeyouhavetoberichtoovercomethyroiddisease.IsthereanythingthatIcando?Idon'thavealotofmoney,Idon'thavealotofresources.”Thisreallyjustbrokemyheartbecausethisinformationshouldn'tbekepttoprivatedoctors.Thisinformationshouldnotbekeptbehindcloseddoorsbecauseitcanreallychangeaperson'slife.IwantedtorecordTheThyroidSecretbecauseIwanttoshowpeoplethathealingispossibleandIwanttoshowthemthathealingtakesplaceonaday-to-daybasisthattherearehundredsofpeopleouttherethatwanttohelpthemandthattheycangettheirhealthback.

[01:20:30] I'msogratefultoallofmyamazingcolleagues,who’vejoinedforceswithmetogetthispricelessinformationouttoyou.IspeakonallofourbehalfwithasincerehopethatTheThyroidSecretwillbringyouthelife-alteringinformationyouneedtotakebackyourhealth.Welovehearingfromyouandknowthattheinformationwesharecanchangeyourlife.Welovehearingfromyouandweknowthatthisinformationcanchangeyourlivesjustlikeit'schangedourownlivesandlivesofallofourpatients.Makesuretoletusknowhowmuchinsightyou'regettingbyleavingacomment. [Here’swhat’stocomeinthenextepisode:]

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Areyourdoctorsgivingyouantidepressantswhentheyshouldbeactuallytestingyourthyroid?Poorthyroidfunctioncouldbethehiddenculpritbehindyourdepression,anxiety,brainfog,fatigue,orlowsexdrive.Evenconditionssuchasschizophreniaandbipolarcanactuallybelinkedtothyroiddysfunction.Don'tsufferfromdepression,anxiety,orbrainfoganylonger.Inthisepisode,weliftupthehoodonthecommonmisdiagnosisofmentalhealth,thetruenatureofthebarbaricconventionaltreatmentsofthyroiddiseaseandthesimplethingsyoucandotoreverseyourconditionandgetyourmentalhealthback.

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