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Hidden Valley Commutator

Newsletter of the Hidden Valley Model T Club, April 2014

April 2014 Hidden Valley Model T Club Commutator

The Hidden Valley

Commutator is the

newsletter of the

Hidden Valley Model

T Club.

The newsletter is

published monthly

and distributed on-

line to all connected

members.

The 2012 thru 2013

members of the

HVMTC Board of Directors are:

President

Doug Lested

Tours

Stephanie Terrell

Treasurer

Diane McPherson

Secretary

Tony Bowker

Web Editor

Tony Bowker

Upcoming Events

Wednesday 2 April, - Dinner at Charlie's starting at 6 pm

Saturday 12 April - HVMTFC Tour - Flower Fields Tour

Assembly Time: 8:00 Departure Time: 8:30 Depart Location: California

Center for the Arts, Escondido Admission Cost: None. Normally admission

to the Flower Fields is $8 per person, but that will be waived for people in

Model A’s and T’s. We will be allowed to drive among up into the fields and

take pictures of the cars amongst the ranunculus.

Saturday 10 May - HVMTC Tour and Installation Dinner - Driving tour to

Doug and Neta Anderson's Ranch in Puma Valley.

Saturday 28 June - OCMTFC Swap Meet at El Dorado High School.

See flyer later in this newsletter

Saturday 26 July LBMTC Swap Meet at Los Alamitos Race Course.

This year it is a one day event, free entry for buyers hours 7am to 4pm..

Contact Jeff Hood 562-597-5936 or Tony 760-789-3954

See flyer at end of this newsletter



Minutes for HVMTC General Meeting at Charlie's Restaurant

March 5th

, 2014

Meeting opened at 6:50 by President Doug Lested.

Members attending included Diane MacPherson, Anne Tunnell, Dale & Eleanor Stanfield,

John & Karen Pepe, Tony Bowker, Virgil & Sharon White, Lou Schweiger, Warren Raps,

Marge & Ken Magers, Doug & Neta Anderson, G Keener & Doug Lested.

John lead the Pledge

Doug welcomed everyone and new club members Doug & Neta Anderson mentioned his

exploits in the National T Club, he was National President and told of the two Model T's he

owns a 1914 Livingstone radiator Speedster and a 1923 Touring.

Doug led a discussion on upcoming tours, the March tour is the Sierra Vista event, the

Flower Fields tour is confirmed but the exact date not yet set. The tour for May is undecided

between a trip to Bill Allen's hanger at Gillespie Field or a Barbeque at Doug & Neta

Anderson's Ranch. The June tour to Arie de Long's Melrose Ranch is confirmed for the 7th.

The site of the May Installation Dinner has yet to be set.

Diane assured the members that we have sufficient funds to continue, with a detailed report

available to members.

Tony spoke about the Minutes, several favorable comments regarding the emailed newsletter

and the web site at www.hvmtc.org. There being no comments on the Minutes, Doug

proposed and Anne seconded approval of the Minutes, motion was unanimously approved.

Tony then spoke about the upcoming Sierra Vista tour, we now have 26 cars and 58 people.

The entry list is now closed.

Diane mentioned that the Big 3 swap meet was very good rain held off and sales seemed

brisk.

Virgil spoke about the MTFCA Business Meeting held on a cruise ship out of Florida, great

food which never seemed to end. They visited Jamaica and Haiti, circling Cuba. Both the

White's and Burrell's spoke up promoting the National Tour scheduled in San Diego for July

13-18.

Diane held the Opportunity drawing and George Keener won $25.

Being no further business, Doug closed the meeting at 7:30pm.

Respectfully submitted

Tony Bowker, Secretary



Sierra Vista Spring Tour The HVMTC overnight tour this year was to the area around Sierra Vista in southeast Arizona. The tour

was from March 8 thru 11, centered at the Windemere Hotel in Sierra Vista, We had an excellent turn out

of cars, some 23 Model T's and three Model A's, accompanied by 58 people, In the event a couple of cars

didn't show up on the first day, but we had a extra car, Jim & Doris Martin decided to join the fun.

"

Drivers meeting at the Windemere Hotel Stephanie & Vic's pickup, in Bisbee

Tony & Heathers 14 Touring in Bisbee Vic & Stephanie walking!!!

Greg & Cathy's 19127 Touring in Bisbee The Copper Queen Hotel, great lunch



The first day was a fairly simple short run to the old mining town of Bisbee. Most ate lunch at the Copper

Queen Hotel and there were antique vehicles parked everywhere . The run back took the cars over Mule

The sign for the Copper Queen Hotel One of the T's leaving up Tombstone Canyon

The 1890's Stagecoach in Tombstone Some of T's parked in Tombstone

A Depot Hack driving down 2nd St in Tombstone Early arrivals at HotRods of Old Veil near Tucson



Pass to the North of town, thank goodness for Ruckstell axle. The second day was a run up to Kartchner

Caverns, followed by lunch in Benson then a run down to Tombstone. Here we visited the antique stores

More T's at Hotrods, including Howard's Lucky #7 A Centerdoor in front of a well know Roadster

We allowed Model A's including Craig & Barbara's The V8 motor of a Toyota NASCAR Racer

The NASCAR racer, behind a wire fence??? Front view of the Hotrods of Old Veil restoration shop



and the ice cream stores. This was followed by a 16 mile run back to Sierra Vista. The third day was the

longest mileage of the tour, 70 odd miles each way to the outskirts of Tucson to visit Hotrods of Old Veil.

The route included some spectacular scenery The 6% hill continued up.....

That dot is Rich Seymour's 1914 Touring The views thru the Army Post were spectacular

Early arrivals at the Gadsden Hotel We had reserved parking at the Gadsden



This modern restoration shop is very well equipped, indeed Humble Howard considered a rebuild of his

cooling system... The run was quite spectacular, rising to over 5000 feet, and then back through the Army

Fort into Sierra Vista. The final day was a run out to Douglas where we had an excellent lunch at the

Gadsden Hotel, which was built in 1907. Here we had a group photo taken and the local paper took a

picture of the cars parked in front of the Hotel.. By now the number of running cars was down to 20, but all

the A's were still chugging along. One of the A's had driven down from Utah, they would have won the

"Furthest Distance" driven award, while Howard would have won the "Most Trouble" award for his

constant cooling issues.

The final table moving to the buffet The border fence, from San Diego to Brownsville!

While at lunch Norm spoke to the group, thanking Tony & Heather for organizing the tour and Jim

presented Tony with a unique gas can to commemorate when he ran out of gas on a Speedster Run in this

area some years ago.

The roads in the area are almost perfect for Model T's, fairly flat, the steepest grade was 6%, and for the

most part quite wide, with room for moderns to overtake. It was a fun four days touring, well worth all the

work in setting it up.

Tony

There were pictures in the Douglas Dispatch at

http://www.douglasdispatch.com/news/article_aba19f6c-af8f-11e3-bb84-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=image

The tour participants were:

Tony & Heather Bowker

Greg & Cathy Rising

Ralph & Anne Cordell

Gary & Darlene Woods

William Hedges & Anne Carroll

Dale & Eleanor Stanfield

Don & Carol Stanfield

Vic & Stephanie Terrell

Dennis & Jaacjie Rutkoskie

Kirk & Susan Peterson

Howard Genrich & Bob Schwinck

Gene & Jackie Carrothers,

Dave & Debbie Francis

Rich Seymour& Gene Matson

Jim & Kathleen Stewart

Vince & Sandy Collom

John & Carol Withers

Norm & Delores Kling

Craig & Barbara French

Denver & Marylee Howard

Bob Sterner & Linda Moore

Jim & Kim McComas

Mike & Madison McComas

Ron & Marilyn Cheroske

Tom & Anne Bekel

Bryce & Terrie and Linda Putnam

Jim & Doris Martin

Terry Kramer (Trouble truck)



Editor Notes

The newsletter is bigger this month with all the pictures from Sierra Vista, so it may take some

time to download. The San Diego Auto museum is offering special membership option to

members of affiliated club. It costs $25 for the year and allows unlimited admission to the San

Diego Auto Museum for two people and four guest passes. Sounds like a good deal, see the

brochure later in the newsletter.

Tony Bowker

For sale 10" Montgomery Ward Radial Arm Saw with large 3' by 5' table and a mobile stand

with two shelves and wheels.

Metal Cutting Band Saw, 3/4 HP, 120 Volt with a 4 1/2 inch cutting size. This is an

older Taiwan brand imported before the Chinese units came out.

Sears MIG Welding Unit, 120 Volt 75 AMP. Wire Feed

Harbor Freight 2 HP, 120 Volt Dust Collector with two fabric bags and mobile base. Craig French 760-727-5046

Two cars and stuff for sale

1924 T roadster pickup, 12v system with alternator and distributor. Ruckstell, 26/27 wire wheels

with spare, very good top and leather seat. Very good touring car. Wood bed w/cover. Spare

running engine. Adjustable lifters, High compression head, external oiler, fuse panel, Rocky

Mountain brakes, turn signals, running board tool box and fuel cans. Side curtains.

1925 T touring, 6v system. Distributor, Ruckstell, Laycock overdrive. Very good top and

leather seats. Wood wheels with 2 spares. This was my father’s car and was sitting in the garage

for 12 years. It is now running again and all fluids have been changed. Ignition wires were

replaced. Wheels are tight and it drives well. High compression head, external oiler, fuse panel,

Rocky Mountain brakes, turn signals, running board tool box and fuel cans. Side curtains.

Very large collection of parts including 26/27 engine (taken apart), alternators, starters,

generators, bearings, etc. Value of this is over $9,000. A partial list of the parts is available and

is growing as I discover more parts.

Everything is located in San Marcos, CA

The price is $30,000 for the package. Dell Pound 760-685-3461 [email protected]

tel:760-727-5046

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