The Gourley’s 501(c)3 Tax Exemption “Delay”

It appears there are even more very questionable public statements from “Military with PTSD” being discovered. Some of you may know that the Gourleys have been asked many times, by their followers, what had been the great delay in them receiving their 501(c)3 Federal Tax Exempt Charity status. Their “explanations” have been somewhat varied, but usually come back around to blaming the IRS for issuing “dual EINs” (Employer Identification Number), in IRS error. Please see screenshots provided of some of the Gourley’s public “explanations” for the 501(c)3 delay and “dual EIN” situation. This first one provided is from August 2, 2014 and states, “David L because we were one of the groups that had been targeted in the IRS scandal. When Shawn refused to hand over our members DD214 all of the sudden we had two EINs….”

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An additional statement made by the Gourleys on that same day (August 2, 2014…screenshot below) says, “Darla Morgan we were literally caught in the midst of thescandal. They demanded our members DD214s and when Shawn refused they assigned us 2 EINs and wouldn’t give us our status. We had to fight…”

There are some SERIOUS problems with these above “explanations” publicly offered by the Gourleys (Military with PTSD), that one might not know were a problem, unless they had been around awhile and knew of the prior public comments made by the Gourleys about this same subject. Please follow….

First, would be the recently released public information showing BOTH of the Gourley’s 2012 EIN confirmation documents, that reveals that BOTH of the EINs the Gourleys have been referring to, were applied for BY the Gourleys THEMSELVES (or one of their “agents”), IN 2012. The online EIN application process provides you an instant/same day copy of your EIN documentation. THIS appears the reason the Gourleys had “dual EINs”... that THEY purposely APPLIED

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for each of them (not IRS error). As additional proof of this, see the screenshot below of Justin Gourley, on DEC 30, 2012, talking about the “dual EIN” situation with a Facebook member. Justin states, “No we had to amend the first one and they issued a second EIN number when we amended to add the INC.” Notice, there is no mention of IRS demands for “member DD214s” in these 2012 conversations about their already existing TWO EINs (JUSTIN himself, says the “second EIN” was given when THEY tried to “amend” their EIN, themselves.). Also notice that Justin’s statements below that say, “Yes 2 eins”, and, “There is a military with PTSD and a military with PTSD Inc.”, confirm the information on both 2012 EIN documents. This info is doubly supported by the original and amended Articles of Incorporation just posted by the Gourley’s on their MWPTSD website (also dated FEB 27, 2012 and MAR 30, 2012).

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PLEASE SEE screenshots below of BOTH of the the Gourley’s 2012 EIN verification documents…. Please note the first has the date of February 24, 2012 and says only “Military with PTSD” as the applying party. The second has the date of March 20, 2012, and shows the applying party as, “Military with PTSD, Inc.”, followed by, “Military with PTSD”, and then “%Justin Gourley”. This appears to fit with Justin’s above statement about trying to “amend” their EINs in 2012 and also with where he says, “There is a military with PTSD and a Military with PTSD Inc.”…. And also appears as confirmation that the Gourleys had BOTH EIN copies in their possession already, before DEC 2012.

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WHY are all of these documents and screenshots significant?? Looking back at the first screenshots provided here (from August 2, 2014), you’ll see that the Gourleys there have NOT admitted that THEY were the ones who were responsible for their EIN “mix-up”, contrary to their own 2012 comments just shown above. It actually appears that they may possibly have just made a mistake in trying to “amend” their EIN situation, and applied for the second 2012 EIN, hoping that would solve the situation (that’s what their own 2012 words seem to imply)…. So then, WHY wouldn’t they just admit that?? WHY would they go SO far as to say all those apparently VERY misleading things to their followers about being involved in the “IRS scandal”, the IRS “demanding” member’s DD214s, and even Shawn “refusing” to hand them over?? WHY would they use THOSE things totry to explain their “dual EIN” issue… again, “They demanded our members DD214s and when Shawn refused they assigned us 2 EINs...”, and again, “When Shawn refused to hand over our members DD214 all of the sudden we had 2 EINs…” (They themselves appeared to admit in their comments from 2012, that there was no, “all of the sudden” about this “dual EIN” situation.)

AND THEN, there is even MORE information about the real IRS DD214 issue that shows it was not related to all of this….

(1) the real IRS “scandal” surrounding the DD214 request situation didn’t become public until somewhere around mid-2013 (LONG after the Gourley’s December 30,2012 admission about the dual EINs already being in their possession AND being in existence due to their own attempt to “amend”), and….

(2) the “scandal” was ONLY affecting those groups with, 501(c)19 Tax Exempt

status for VETERAN ORGANIZATIONs, NOT those applying for, or granted,

501(c)3 Tax Exempt CHARITY ORGANIZATION status, as the Gourleys/Military with PTSD had stated they had applied for (Gourleys granted 501(c)3 status JUL 29, 2014). Different statuses, with different rules. PLEASE, LOOK INTO ALL of this. (Screenshots below of article from the American Legion about the actual IRS DD214 issue from 2013.) So, according to just THIS information, there would be NO reason to believe that the IRS would ask for DD214s from Military with PTSD’s members, as the Gourleys, in August 2014, stated and implied.

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Also, finding out that “Military with PTSD” is NOT a 501(c)19 VETERAN organization brings up at least one more important question….

WHY are the Gourleys (Military with PTSD), on their own website, “militarywithptsd.com”, now requiring those simply applying for basic “membership” (not employment) with their organization, to PROVIDE DD214s, and other very personal documents in order for them to “verify you or your warrior’s military service, wounded status, and disability.”??? (Screenshot below.)

WHY would they need access to these very PERSONAL private documents, if they are not even a VETERAN ORGANIZATION??? Are they asking for them because they think they may need to give them to the IRS at some point…. which they clearly implied they were unwilling to do in those August 2014 comments above?? A true Veteran Organization (as defined by the IRS) MAY BE required at certain times to provide proof that their members are Veterans, or have some

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type of Veteran relation, to maintain their 501(c)19 tax exemption status…. but THAT SHOULD NOT APPLY to the 501(c)3 CHARITY, like “Military with PTSD”.

And, now that all of THAT has been covered… THERE IS MORE information about the actual “Military with PTSD Inc” 501(c)3 application and filing that has just come to light directly from the Gourleys (links posted on their Facebook Page andWebpage documents on OCT 18, 2014). According to the Gourley’s posted IRS “Form 1023”, they JUST filed this application to become legally Federally “Tax

Exempt” in MAY 2014. PLEASE see screenshot below, box highlighted in red, showing “Current Tax Year” and note that it shows “MAY 14” (as in 2014) as their most recent month and year at time of filing.

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WHY is this an issue?? Because the Gourleys have claimed numerous times sinceearly 2012 that they had “filed” for their tax exempt status from the IRS and that they were allowed to operate as a “pending 501(c)3” until it came through fully. HOWEVER, THIS document appears to show, that even THAT was not true!! See screenshots here of just two of the Gourley quotes from the “Military with PTSD” Page claiming their “pending 501(c)3” status from NOV 23, 2013 and FEB 26, 2014….

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Also, See this next screenshot about being a “pending” 501(c)3 organization, that says you can act as such, “While waiting for the IRS to approve your application…”,which would appear to indicate that you must have already APPLIED to be able to say that you are PENDING. (So, then HOW is it they have been claiming, prior to May 2014, that they are a “pending” 501(c)3???)

And LASTLY (sorry this is so long… it needs to be thorough), the screenshot below offers clarity to a date by which it would appear the Gourley’s earlier mentioned “dual EIN” situation HAD finally been fixed, so that they would then befree to move on with the finalizing of their 501(c)3 status by application (IRS form 1023). In Shawn’s own words, on April 11, 2013, she states to a MWPTSD fan, whowould later become one of her “board” members, “… Everything you and I talked about helped me get the double EIN cleared up.”

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PLEASE look at the information…. Make an educated decision about the Gourleys and whether or not they are being honest. Remember, this is only ONE situation with this much obvious conflicting information and comments from these individuals.

PLEASE KNOW THIS…. Those of us involved in bringing all this tolight are ONLY concerned about the Veterans and their family

members potentially being harmed.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Documented: October 19, 2014

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