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Funny Electrolytes: Overview of tubular physiology
Dr JJ Kim EMEESY Annual Network Study Day
Stoke Rochford 21 October 2017
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DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.paed.2014.03.005
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Funny electrolytes in paediatrics
• Common! – Gastroenteritis
– Medication • Gentamicin
• Chemotherapy
• Anti-epileptics
– Neonatal period • Prematurity
• Hypernatraemic dehydration
– Pyloric stenosis
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When to suspect tubulopathy?
• Acute presentations: – Salt (water) wasting crises – Hyperkalaemia – Seizures
• Chronic presentations: – Failure to thrive – (true) polyuria polydipsia – Bone/muscle ache – Nephrocalcinosis – Part of multi-system disease – Constipation/intractable enuresis
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• Fe =
Serum
Urine
CreaUrine
CreaSerum
= Apple(Urine) x Crea(Serum)
Apple(Serum) x Crea(Urine)
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Rules of thumb
• Na = Water = BP
• Na loosing disorders lead to low (normal) BP
• Kidneys don’t sense Na
– Na is regulated by osmoreceptors in the brain (BP)
– Salt loosing disorders have normal Na
– Salt loosing disorders tend to have normal FeNa (compensatory mechanisms)
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150L of plasma/day
80% Na resorbtion (+salts, HCO3, amino acids)
Proximal tubule
Loop of Henle
Thick ascending limb 10-15% Na
Distal convoluted tubule
5-10% Na
Collecting duct
Urine
~5% Na
<1% Na
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Fanconi syndrome
• Generalised salt loss, acidosis and amino aciduria
• Multiple causes & multi-system disorders
– Drugs
• Infancy
– Cystinosis
– Lowes (oculo-cerebro-renal)
• Childhood
– Cystinosis
– Dent’s
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Case 2
• 8 mth old boy, consanguinous parents, 2 week history of vomiting, no diarrhoea
Serum
Na 133
K 2.3
Ur 13
Crea 40
Ca 2.33
HCO3 31
Cl 88
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Bartter’s
• Urine – K (FE>15%), Cl (FE>1%), Ca (variable), Mg (high)
• Pseudo-Bartter’s – Cystic fibrosis
– Congenital chloride diarrhoea
• Treatment – Salt replacement
– K>2.5
– Indomethacin +/- chlorothiazide/spironolactone
– Feeds
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Type 2: Pre-/neonatal onset
Type 1: Pre-/neonatal onset
Type 4: Neonatal onset + deafness
Type 3: Childhood ‘classic’ onset
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Case 3
• 6 month old girl, consanguinous parents, generalized seizures, needing PICU admission and IV salt replacement
Serum Urine
Na 133 FeNa 1%
K 4 TPMT 4%
Ur 5
Crea 40
Ca 1.9 Ca/Crea Up
Mg 0.4 FeNa Up
HCO3 24
Cl 104
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HYPO Magnesaemia
• Familial hypomagnesaemia with hypercalciuria and nephrocalcinosis (Manz syndrome)
Claudin16/19 Mg/Ca
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Reabsorption of Mg
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Distal convoluted tubule
Gitelmanns
Familial hypomagnesaemia
EAST Syndrome
FK506
HOMG
HOMG4
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Gitelman’s
• Thiazide diuretics
• HYPOmagnesium
– Muscle cramps/joint aches
– Prolonged QT (10%)
• Electrolytes similar to Bartter’s
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Collecting duct
Amiloride X
X Spironolactone
PHA1
CAH
Liddle Syndrome
AME Apparent Mineralocorticoid Excess
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Summary
1. Na = Water = BP
2. Clinical history and presentation is important
3. Tubulopathy calculator is available
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Funny Electrolytes
• “What kind of work do you do?”
• “Oh, I work with kidneys.”
• “So do you work in nephrology or pediatric orthopedics?”