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@thecuriousgeek Was really interesting, hoping to get @ELISSAMOORE and the others to tune in next week aswell #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 22:14 | mr_m_ellis

@mr_m_ellis just checked out the great #mediaedchat discussions. Sorry I missed it-got stuck in the car. Willcertainly tune in next week.

27-Nov-12 21:32 | thecuriousgeek

#mediaedchat - that quote was from a tweet just tweeted from one of last year's students!

27-Nov-12 21:30 | GeorgeEBlack

#mediaedchat "I'd say for course I'm doing at uni, media was definitely the most useful subject! Even alreadyknew some of the syllabus!"

27-Nov-12 21:29 | GeorgeEBlack

RT @GeorgeEBlack: Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now.Media teachers check it out!

27-Nov-12 21:12 | hgaldinoshea

RT @GeorgeEBlack: Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now.Media teachers check it out!

27-Nov-12 21:08 | lollhg

RT @GeorgeEBlack: Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now.Media teachers check it out!

27-Nov-12 21:06 | uk_teacher

Good first #mediaedchat, the govt agenda maybe bleak but a lot of optimism amongst teachers

27-Nov-12 21:05 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now. Media teachers check itout!

27-Nov-12 21:05 | GeorgeEBlack

RT @andywallis: More #mediaedchat next Tuesday at 8pm. Enjoy the rest of your evening everyone. Thanksagain

27-Nov-12 21:03 | GeorgeEBlack

thanks all it's been great and I hope it can grow and grow #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 21:01 | nizlamb

More #mediaedchat next Tuesday at 8pm. Enjoy the rest of your evening everyone. Thanks again

27-Nov-12 21:01 | andywallis

Thanks @andywallis Nice start!#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 21:01 | hgaldinoshea

@nizlamb yep I will document it all #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 21:00 | andywallis

MANY thanks to all who have taken part in the first weekly #mediaedchat Lots more folk than I expected & plentyof positive thoughts

27-Nov-12 21:00 | andywallis

@andywallis are you going to publish tonights #mediaedchat on your blog/create a new site for it?

27-Nov-12 20:59 | nizlamb

RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for gettingthis thing started- a decent turnout !

27-Nov-12 20:58 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@mr_m_ellis it will be weekly #mediaedchat Have already got next week's topic sorted!

27-Nov-12 20:58 | andywallis

RT @MrsBirks: #mediaedchat 1 person depts need to get our students to talk about the subject more? - they'reoften happy to say how difficult it is!

27-Nov-12 20:58 | hgaldinoshea

@petesmediablog @steviedm #mediaedchat Crikey!

27-Nov-12 20:57 | hgaldinoshea

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@petesmediablog Agreed - been really interesting, thanks Andy, would love to see this happening regularly#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:57 | mr_m_ellis

#mediaedchat yes, cheers, Andy. Good luck 2nd half Black Cats. Oh and Palace too @petesmediablog

27-Nov-12 20:57 | steviedm

MT @petesmediablog #mediaedchat three cheers for Andy for getting this thing started- a decent turnout !

27-Nov-12 20:57 | Teach_Media

@nizlamb @lollhg @steviedm think we all face that one…tokenism #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:57 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@DelaneyMedia #mediaedchat woohoo! well done- shows it can be done!

27-Nov-12 20:57 | petesmediablog

#mediaedchat well I found this by accident - but I will be back next week! Thank you!

27-Nov-12 20:57 | GeorgeEBlack

RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for gettingthis thing started- a decent turnout !

27-Nov-12 20:57 | hgaldinoshea

With just a few minutes to go, I think that the first #mediaedchat shows there's a lot to be optimistic about

27-Nov-12 20:57 | andywallis

@steviedm #mediaedchat not really at the moment- main thing is no mechanism exists for this 'approval' for anysubject! just a Gove 'idea'

27-Nov-12 20:56 | petesmediablog

RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for gettingthis thing started- a decent turnout !

27-Nov-12 20:56 | GeorgeEBlack

@DelaneyMedia @petesmediablog #mediaedchat how did you get year 9 class?they doing Gcse or into tosubject ?

27-Nov-12 20:56 | KTSMedia1

RT @KTSMedia1: #mediaedchat @Teach_Media this is main challenge when trying to 'sell' the subject . I don'tthink a level esp can be classed 'soft'

27-Nov-12 20:56 | COLFESmedia

#mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for getting this thing started- adecent turnout !

27-Nov-12 20:56 | petesmediablog

#mediaedchat 1 person depts need to get our students to talk about the subject more? - they're often happy tosay how difficult it is!

27-Nov-12 20:55 | MrsBirks

@petesmediablog 1 yr 11 class, 3 yr 10+4 new yr 9 classes just started...we are growing!Going for 5 classesstarting next yr! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:55 | DelaneyMedia

@andywallis #mediaedchat #optimism Now we need to address 'What unis?'

But surely it is a way to challenge public perceptions...27-Nov-12 20:55 | hgaldinoshea

@petesmediablog Pete, are there fears unis won't approve if they feel they cover the same stuff in their 1st year?#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:55 | steviedm

@lollhg @steviedm absolutely. Work in media at my school often adapted/for whole school. Even if oftenbastardised or misused! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:53 | nizlamb

@hgaldinoshea some Unis have commented on how MS helps students to learn about how they learn i.e. trueevaluations #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:53 | andywallis

That's me too. RT @MrsBirks #mediaedchat Also difficult to challenge perceptions of subject when a 1 persondept - many of us are?

27-Nov-12 20:52 | Teach_Media

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RT @KTSMedia1: @steviedm #mediaedchat and it is becoming a subject of eve more importance in the realworld. Impact of media & tech on our lives massive.

27-Nov-12 20:52 | GeorgeEBlack

@hgaldinoshea #mediaedchat the new A levels will have to have uni approval, but organising that will be verycomplex

27-Nov-12 20:52 | petesmediablog

“@andywallis: @hgaldinoshea from talking to students a lot of Unis see the benefits of MS #mediaedchat ”This needs to be confirmed+shared!

27-Nov-12 20:52 | hgaldinoshea

@MrsBirks "difficult to challenge perceptions of subject when a 1 person dept - many of us are?" -> all the morereason for #mediaedchat :)

27-Nov-12 20:52 | mister_seal

@steviedm agreed - Media in our school is helping in driving technology and creative teaching forward#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:52 | lollhg

@steviedm #mediaedchat and it is becoming a subject of eve more importance in the real world. Impact ofmedia & tech on our lives massive.

27-Nov-12 20:51 | KTSMedia1

@mr_m_ellis ...good example, Media started them, now the whole student diary scheme the school runs is basedon a blog. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:51 | GeorgeEBlack

@steviedm previously the DoE had looked at ways of doing this but this new report shows no attempt#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:51 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@hgaldinoshea from talking to students a lot of Unis see the benefits of MS #mediaedchat #optimism

27-Nov-12 20:51 | andywallis

just come in on chat #mediaedchat sorry if said before but isn't the broadness of media part of the prob?

27-Nov-12 20:51 | mediaradarguru

#mediaedchat Also difficult to challenge perceptions of subject when a 1 person dept - many of us are?

27-Nov-12 20:50 | MrsBirks

If nothing else, current Govt has made my kids much more political and angry/aware. That's got to be somereason for optimism! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:50 | mister_seal

@mr_m_ellis totally agree, it's Media and Art in our school that seem to be happy to embrace and new ideas,blogs are a good... #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:50 | GeorgeEBlack

#mediaedchat my last few tweets are gonna be positive - I do think subject has higher status than at any timesince I've been teaching it.

27-Nov-12 20:50 | steviedm

#mediaedchat So perhaps we should ask unis to dispel students' doubts about their choice of subject... To helpus promote the subject...

27-Nov-12 20:49 | hgaldinoshea

@mr_m_ellis It is! I think our Departments are well placed to lead/advise on technological advancements#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:48 | mr_m_ellis

#mediaedchat interesting about numbers. I work in a private school that does teach Media Studies but I'm onlyallowed a couple of groups

27-Nov-12 20:48 | MrsBirks

#mediaedchat and we're a private school. Subject is slowly being recognised as having value, students value theskills and transfer them

27-Nov-12 20:48 | GeorgeEBlack

@mr_m_ellis utterly agree and that's so good to hear #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:48 | andywallis

RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:47 | Teach_Media

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“@GeorgeEBlack: #mediaedchat we have 38 across two sets in year 12, biggest number yet, and almost all ofthem actually want to do it.”:)

27-Nov-12 20:47 | hgaldinoshea

#mediaedchat we have 38 across two sets in year 12, biggest number yet, and almost all of them actually want todo it.

27-Nov-12 20:46 | GeorgeEBlack

#mediaedchat In Canada, media doesn't stand alone. It's embedded across curriculum, i.e paid lip service. Modelcould be argued for here.

27-Nov-12 20:45 | steviedm

@mr_m_ellis I hope that it's good news for all learning! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:45 | andywallis

#mediaedchat Could wider uptake of 1:1 iPad schemes and similar be good news for MS?

27-Nov-12 20:45 | mr_m_ellis

@lollhg absolutely agree #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:44 | andywallis

@andywallis even more reason for us to keep pushing to promote the transferable skills our course offer#mediaedchat but it is bleak!

27-Nov-12 20:44 | lollhg

@steviedm nothing to do with public perception/Russell Group? #mediaedchat It's been quite odd imo

27-Nov-12 20:44 | andywallis

@andywallis Think it's just fluctuations in intake. We've got a great lot this year but a poor lot last. Random inmany ways. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:43 | steviedm

RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones,tablets - I see no-one else teaching them how

27-Nov-12 20:43 | Teach_Media

RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:42 | andywallis

RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:42 | petesmediablog

@lollhg think this is different, media literacy was always suggested as embedding across the curriculumpreviously #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:42 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@petesmediablog I think that it's the phrasing in it and that not everything will be addressed fully #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:42 | andywallis

RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:42 | MsKateRyan

“@nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profile forMEA #mediaedchat”YES

27-Nov-12 20:41 | hgaldinoshea

@steviedm any ideas why the increase/plummet? Mine also went down last year, but increased this year#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:41 | andywallis

@mr_m_ellis @GoGo_GadgetGirl In terms of content and pedagogy. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:41 | mister_seal

@andywallis #mediaedchat ofqual paper limits coursework %. Where else do you think it is bleak?

27-Nov-12 20:41 | petesmediablog

Truth is, ebacc subjects are easier than MS. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:41 | rbtmcm

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@petesmediablog two years ago 10 students in AS now 39 #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:41 | lollhg

what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profile for MEA#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:40 | nizlamb

@nizlamb #mediaedchat Definitely! Worries over what unis will think was a common discussion during 6th firmopen eve again this year

27-Nov-12 20:40 | hgaldinoshea

@andywallis yes, but numbers plummeted year before so still below levels of 3 years ago. We've got 35 doingAS Film this year. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:40 | steviedm

@lollhg very unusual to hear of numbers on rise; nationally at A level 20% fall for Film/Media last year- first timeever #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:39 | petesmediablog

@GoGo_GadgetGirl Agreed, the media and technology changing all the time, we must keep up to stay relevant#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:39 | mr_m_ellis

RT @andywallis: @lollhg yes there has always been a battle, but the recent Ofqual paper is pretty bleak for MS#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:39 | andywallis

RT @lollhg: #mediaedchat our numbers doubled over the last 2years, students are optimistic we must keep thisup - haven't we always had this battle?

27-Nov-12 20:39 | hgaldinoshea

RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones,tablets - I see no-one else teaching them how

27-Nov-12 20:38 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

Rightly so, we are the subject that has to consistently adapts and evolves, no room for us being stagnantteachers #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:38 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@nizlamb #mediaedchat Sounds fab. I've got to do more promotion. Students enjoy the course and do well.There is hope after all :))

27-Nov-12 20:37 | hgaldinoshea

@hgaldinoshea school in a fairly deprived area though. Higher parental involvement or more middle class mightbe different? #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:37 | nizlamb

#mediaedchat our numbers doubled over the last 2years, students are optimistic we must keep this up - haven'twe always had this battle?

27-Nov-12 20:37 | lollhg

@steviedm #mediaedchat what happened in the USA with charter schools and destruction of curriculum is inearly stages here

27-Nov-12 20:36 | petesmediablog

@petesmediablog that's when you need to intervene - while the chaos is happening, to shape the direction of thedebate #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:36 | digitaldaisies

#mediaedchat sorry for my tweets, just adding in the #

27-Nov-12 20:35 | KTSMedia1

@petesmediablog @andywallis #mediaedchat Budgets... Yes, unfortunately

27-Nov-12 20:35 | hgaldinoshea

@petesmediablog @andywallis #mediaedchat What do you mean over results?

27-Nov-12 20:35 | hgaldinoshea

@petesmediablog clamp down. That's what I fear. They've barely scratched the surface yet IMO. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:35 | steviedm

@KTSMedia1 Fully agree. A level Media and Film not soft. Unseen textual analysis exams can be challenging#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:35 | Teach_Media

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@Teach_Media @rbtmcm @andywallis #mediaedchat Something I have learnt to love ;))But what a learning curve for teachers too!

27-Nov-12 20:34 | hgaldinoshea

#mediaedchat: @steviedm but no guarantee doing 'proper' subjects will achieve well being either. So why notlearn, question and explore?

27-Nov-12 20:34 | KTSMedia1

@hgaldinoshea #mediaedchat we have a 'stay of execution' at least till 2015 GCSE/A starters. It's whether itwithers in meantime

27-Nov-12 20:34 | petesmediablog

@hgaldinoshea word of mouth from those studying mainly. Wide range but significant numbers of high achievingstudents #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:34 | nizlamb

RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 20:33 | lollhg

@MsKateRyan great to hear. Has there been an impact in relation to A Level numbers? #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:33 | andywallis

#mediaedchat my college yet to see effects of schools' Ebac push. Media up 20% this year and Film up by 50%.Declining trend overall tho.

27-Nov-12 20:33 | steviedm

#mediaedchat: @hgaldinoshea the transferable skills are one of my selling point. How can subject with level ofanalysis not be valid subject

27-Nov-12 20:33 | KTSMedia1

@petesmediablog @rbtmcm am working on a solution to change that perception! Might take a while...#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:33 | andywallis

Media studies is a popular choice at our school. I look forward to my 3 hours a week teaching it. Optimism not aproblem here #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:33 | MsKateRyan

@andywallis #mediaedchat there will be chaos over results and curriculum as well as budgets. Trouble is thatmay lead to clampdown

27-Nov-12 20:32 | petesmediablog

@rbtmcm @andywallis yes, MS teachers find themselves teaching Marxism in the morning and building websitesin the afternoon (!) #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:32 | Teach_Media

#mediaedchat @Teach_Media this is main challenge when trying to 'sell' the subject . I don't think a level esp canbe classed 'soft'

27-Nov-12 20:32 | KTSMedia1

@nizlamb Really? How much promotion do you do and what kind of students do u attract? #mediaedchatWe tend to lose more academic students

27-Nov-12 20:31 | hgaldinoshea

RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones,tablets - I see no-one else teaching them how

27-Nov-12 20:31 | lollhg

@hgaldinoshea @andywallis I like that idea. Sights are set elsewhere at the moment, but we should be ready toargue our case #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:31 | digitaldaisies

@andywallis @rbtmcm don't think anyone knows enough to make rational judgement- it's just lazy shorthand todismiss media ed #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:31 | petesmediablog

@petesmediablog I like to think so! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:30 | nizlamb

@petesmediablog #mediaedchat But didn't you suggest yourself that since it's a low priority subject, we shouldn'tbe too worried?

27-Nov-12 20:30 | hgaldinoshea

@nizlamb really? that bucks the trend. You must be responsible! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:30 | petesmediablog

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#mediaedchat retaining numbers is vital as we must be optimistic that we will vote for change - students enjoyMedia so gain abundant skills

27-Nov-12 20:29 | lollhg

@petesmediablog should we be creating the chaos? Or will that be done for us?! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:29 | andywallis

@andywallis The challenge in the subject is to be good at both. Few are! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:29 | rbtmcm

#mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones, tablets - I see no-oneelse teaching them how

27-Nov-12 20:29 | mr_m_ellis

despite many being pushed towards EBACC subjects. Now they are dropping those to join MS & FS#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:29 | nizlamb

media & film studies still the most popular GCSE options at my school in fact more popular than ever before…#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:28 | nizlamb

@rbtmcm is that maybe a prob that it is often seen as either not academic enough or not creative enough?#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:28 | andywallis

@petesmediablog You ARE an eternal optimist :)#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:27 | hgaldinoshea

@steviedm #mediaedchat I'm not hearing much from the other camp either...

27-Nov-12 20:27 | hgaldinoshea

#mediaedchat I agree with @petesmediablog. No hope with this government. We need to pray (& vote) forchange & engage those who will succeed

27-Nov-12 20:26 | steviedm

#mediaedchat I think DB was right that there will be chaos as a result of all Gove's 'reforms'; it's what comes outof chaos that's crucial

27-Nov-12 20:26 | petesmediablog

There’s a need to emphasise the academic side of MS more - especially in exposing lightweight windbags whofear scrutiny. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:26 | rbtmcm

#mediaedchat this neo-liberal government will never understand learning for learning's sake. Achieving 'economicwell being' trumps all.

27-Nov-12 20:25 | steviedm

@mr_m_ellis @Teach_Media @nizlamb How did you achieve that do you think?#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:24 | hgaldinoshea

RT @Teach_Media: Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watchingtelly! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:24 | lollhg

#mediaedchat possibly best hope for future is to get message across to Twigg for the next Labour govt to besupportive of media education

27-Nov-12 20:24 | petesmediablog

“@mister_seal: @hgaldinoshea @steviedm And we have responsblty to promote learning as more than a meansto an end. #mediaedchat”Yes!

27-Nov-12 20:23 | hgaldinoshea

We need to show importance and skills developed via media. The media produced now, will eventually bestudied as history. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:23 | Teach_Media

@mr_m_ellis absolutely. our students need to understand why and what skills media ed offers them that othersubjects do not #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:23 | nizlamb

@Teach_Media @nizlamb #mediaedchat Perceptions in my school among staff, have improved in last 5 years

27-Nov-12 20:23 | mr_m_ellis

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@andywallis @GoGo_GadgetGirl True.#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:23 | hgaldinoshea

RT @Teach_Media: Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watchingtelly! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:22 | MsKateRyan

@hgaldinoshea @steviedm And we have responsblty to promote learning as more than a means to an end.#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:22 | mister_seal

#mediaedchat I vote @andywallis dons a Mickey Mouse costume and delivers a strongly worded defence ofmedia to the Gove household.

27-Nov-12 20:21 | steviedm

RT @Teach_Media: Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watchingtelly! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:21 | hgaldinoshea

@nizlamb @hgaldinoshea the Art department introduced Graphics from year 9. Our media numbers drasticallyfell in options #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:21 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@hgaldinoshea @GoGo_GadgetGirl does it need to be an either/or in relation to career/subject? I hope neither#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:21 | andywallis

RT @steviedm: #mediaedchat re perceptions - no mention of media in relation to national angst over body image.Bizarre it's ignored in this context.

27-Nov-12 20:21 | hgaldinoshea

@nizlamb I couldn't agree more. Sometimes the subject is ridiculed by other teachers too. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:20 | Teach_Media

@steviedm I agree!!!!#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:19 | hgaldinoshea

#mediaedchat Students need to be equipped with "I take MS which means I can...."

27-Nov-12 20:19 | mr_m_ellis

#mediaedchat re perceptions - no mention of media in relation to national angst over body image. Bizarre it'signored in this context.

27-Nov-12 20:19 | steviedm

@hgaldinoshea @andywallis disaster, if you even had to joy of teaching the Creative & Media diploma you willunderstand #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:18 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@hgaldinoshea YES! Media introduced at KS3 and before is a crucial step I think and 1 i am currently fighting forin my school #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:18 | nizlamb

@mr_m_ellis @Teach_Media I think VERY few people outside of schools know what MS is #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:18 | andywallis

@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis Do you see this as a good thing or not?#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:17 | hgaldinoshea

@hgaldinoshea @andywallis both, the impact of students studying Media defo is beneficial to all their otherstudies #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:17 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@nizlamb I tend to think so, yes. If started earlier down the school, could cover more and ensureprogression+more coverage#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:17 | hgaldinoshea

@mister_seal hopefully we already do that, but for Gove it must all be factual! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:17 | andywallis

@mr_m_ellis @teach_media and not just outside school but within also #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:17 | nizlamb

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#mediaedchat students need to be realistic about media careers. It's likely they won't end up working in it -transferable skills crucial.

27-Nov-12 20:16 | steviedm

@mr_m_ellis @teach_media I genuinely think they have no idea #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:16 | nizlamb

@andywallis we must offer breadth and challenge to engage, stretch, and remain relevant. #mediaedchatmedialiteracy and all that...!

27-Nov-12 20:15 | mister_seal

@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis but should studying MS be seen as step towards these careers or simply avalid subject in itself?#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:15 | hgaldinoshea

@hgaldinoshea @andywallis I teach the OCR Nationals and the new Cambridge tech. soon examinations will beincorporated #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:15 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

#mediaedchat @Teach_Media Absolutely right - View of society crucial, what do people outside our schools thinkMS is?

27-Nov-12 20:15 | mr_m_ellis

@hgaldinoshea also a strength though? #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:14 | nizlamb

@hgaldinoshea @andywallis indeed, it’s a shame no-one makes the connection of a booming film industry andthe people required #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:14 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

“@nizlamb: #mediaedchat perhaps a prb is the fractured nature of the subject now. It covers so mny differentdisciplines and areas?”Maybe

27-Nov-12 20:14 | hgaldinoshea

RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 20:13 | MsKateRyan

@nizlamb Agree. CulturalStudies/ filmmaking/ graphics/ vid games... - a wide range, but challenge and breadth isreward #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:13 | mister_seal

so how can we get the balance right and more importantly how can we convince others? #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:13 | andywallis

@KTSMedia1 Might be a bit unfair there.#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:13 | hgaldinoshea

Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watching telly! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:12 | Teach_Media

RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat We must make Media vital in our own schools/academies/Communities - lookfor opportunities beyond the curriculum

27-Nov-12 20:12 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@andywallis #mediaedchat True of mine!

27-Nov-12 20:12 | hgaldinoshea

@steviedm I think that might be a scenario that Gove would advocate! #mediaedchat We do need to work closerwith businesses/communities

27-Nov-12 20:11 | andywallis

it’s what we do in the class and around the school. Recruiting through extra curricular club from yr 7-9#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:11 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis Is it a vocational subject generally or are you talking about Btec?#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:10 | hgaldinoshea

#mediaedchat perhaps a prb is the fractured nature of the subject now. It covers so mny different disciplines andareas?

27-Nov-12 20:10 | nizlamb

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#mediaedchat in my college, we've linked up with a local production company & apply for funding to give studentsvocational media ops.

27-Nov-12 20:10 | steviedm

@hgaldinoshea @GoGo_GadgetGirl interesting point. Is the division a problem? #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:10 | andywallis

#mediaedchat govt don't want subjects to b enjoyed. But don't OFSTED have some requirement for 'engaging' &interactive lessons? Conflict?

27-Nov-12 20:10 | KTSMedia1

RT @nizlamb: to challenge, change and develop media education in the UK #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:09 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

RT @nizlamb: For one this #mediaedchat at the very least suggests that there is a core of dedicated, enthusiasticteachers out there who are willing...

27-Nov-12 20:09 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@nizlamb absolutely, but we need to make our voices heard on so many levels #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:09 | andywallis

RT @Teach_Media: Media (and arts in general) not really featuring in new curriculum, so far, so I can understandpessimism. #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:08 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis #mediaedchat Isn't that the first pb with MS? The fact that it is a practical aswell as an academic subject?

27-Nov-12 20:08 | hgaldinoshea

RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat We must make Media vital in our own schools/academies/Communities - lookfor opportunities beyond the curriculum

27-Nov-12 20:08 | andywallis

#mediaedchat lobbying has taken place to put our case but Gove consults, ignores findings & does what hewants anyway. A dangerous man.

27-Nov-12 20:08 | steviedm

@KTSMedia1 I think that we could be in a game of ever decreasing circles re change! #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:08 | andywallis

#mediaedchat We must make Media vital in our own schools/academies/Communities - look for opportunitiesbeyond the curriculum

27-Nov-12 20:08 | mr_m_ellis

Saturday's @MediaEdAssc conference should also give us all hope given that so many attended an event in theirown time #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:07 | nizlamb

@hgaldinoshea @andywallis my concern is the marginalization of vocational subjects that provide students tospecialise #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:07 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

#mediaedchat can we optimistically hope that soon enough this govt will be ousted and someone with some carefor education come in?

27-Nov-12 20:06 | KTSMedia1

#mediaedchat a lot of institutions are already experiencing a decrease in student numbers, despite studentsenjoying studying media

27-Nov-12 20:06 | andywallis

RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 20:06 | rapclassroom

@KTSMedia1 @andywallis #mediaedchat So what exactly are the reasons to be pessimistic first of all?Shall we clear this up first?

27-Nov-12 20:06 | hgaldinoshea

Media (and arts in general) not really featuring in new curriculum, so far, so I can understand pessimism.#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:06 | Teach_Media

#mediaedchat Governments are, luckily, temporary - Gove will eventually be gone - change is the one constant Ihave seen in education

27-Nov-12 20:06 | mr_m_ellis

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#mediaedchat I think @steviedm has a point here that Gove will seek to push Media to one side, but what can wedo to ensure it doesn't?

27-Nov-12 20:06 | andywallis

to challenge, change and develop media education in the UK #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:06 | nizlamb

For one this #mediaedchat at the very least suggests that there is a core of dedicated, enthusiastic teachers outthere who are willing...

27-Nov-12 20:05 | nizlamb

Amongst teachers there is defo evidence of optimism, highlighting the growing number so passionate about thesubject #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:05 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

#mediaedchat my fear is Gove will seek to remove UCAS points from A level media. He could potentially argue itshould be extracurricular.

27-Nov-12 20:04 | steviedm

#mediaedchat surely there is a lot of room for optimism as everything seems so pessimistic at the moment. Aman eternal optimist though!

27-Nov-12 20:03 | KTSMedia1

#mediaedchat We are entering a massive period of change, which should mean opportunities for the flexible

27-Nov-12 20:02 | mr_m_ellis

#mediaedchat it's the least optimistic I've been in 10 years of teaching media as schools kowtow to gvmt policyand Gove's agenda is clear.

27-Nov-12 20:02 | steviedm

Whilst I do think he had some very valid points to make in his keynote I think he was perhaps overly pessimistic.#mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:02 | nizlamb

OK, here goes! Do you agree with D.Buckingham saying there is "very little room for optimism" for mediaeducation in the UK #mediaedchat

27-Nov-12 20:00 | andywallis

@andywallis have you organised this #mediaedchat to distract you from the potential damage Harry's lot aregoing to do to you tonight?

27-Nov-12 19:52 | steviedm

10mins until the first #mediaedchat...

27-Nov-12 19:49 | andywallis

RT @andywallis reminder - #mediaedchat starts at 8pm. 1st topic: is there "very little room for optimism" formedia education? @mr_m_ellis

27-Nov-12 19:19 | thecuriousgeek

RT @andywallis: A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room foroptimism" for media education?

27-Nov-12 18:56 | nizlamb

RT @andywallis: A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room foroptimism" for media education?

27-Nov-12 18:18 | uk_teacher

RT @andywallis: A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room foroptimism" for media education?

27-Nov-12 18:16 | hgaldinoshea

@andywallis gutted can't make #mediaedchat tonight- will catch up on the tweets later - hope it goes well ...

27-Nov-12 18:00 | TheoKuechel

A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room for optimism" for mediaeducation?

27-Nov-12 15:58 | andywallis

RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 07:30 | data_fiend

RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 07:26 | alatalite

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RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 07:22 | nizlamb

RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 07:20 | islayian

RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 07:15 | digitaldaisies

A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

27-Nov-12 07:08 | andywallis

RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat tomorrow 8pm. I'll be there (here?) join in!

26-Nov-12 20:49 | hgaldinoshea

@andywallis #mediaedchat I'd like to join in but am rubbish at twitter - what do I need to do? Thanks

26-Nov-12 20:43 | MrsBirks

#mediaedchat tomorrow 8pm. I'll be there (here?) join in!

26-Nov-12 20:33 | petesmediablog

RT @hgaldinoshea: RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaAPlease RT :)”

26-Nov-12 20:22 | petesmediablog

RT @hgaldinoshea: RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaAPlease RT :)”

26-Nov-12 19:04 | digitaldaisies

RT @hgaldinoshea: RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaAPlease RT :)”

26-Nov-12 18:52 | lisajaneashes

RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaA Please RT :)”

26-Nov-12 18:51 | hgaldinoshea

RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 18:20 | mediaedwales

RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 18:15 | tombarrance

RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 17:49 | NooPuddles

RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 17:42 | nizlamb

RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 17:21 | hgaldinoshea

RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 17:21 | GoGo_GadgetGirl

RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 17:18 | islayian

Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)

26-Nov-12 17:17 | andywallis

@nizlamb @hgaldinoshea good to know you both think it'll be a good starting point #mediaedchat

26-Nov-12 10:12 | andywallis

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RT @nizlamb: Looking forward to the inaugural #mediaedchat on Tues 8-9pm. Get involved media educators

26-Nov-12 10:00 | hgaldinoshea

@andywallis @hgaldinoshea will save any more ranting for tomorrows #mediaedchat

26-Nov-12 09:54 | nizlamb

RT @andywallis: Twitter list for those interested in the first #mediaedchat tomorrow is growing fasthttp://t.co/V4zmPcPY

26-Nov-12 09:45 | hgaldinoshea

Looking forward to the inaugural #mediaedchat on Tues 8-9pm. Get involved media educators

26-Nov-12 09:21 | nizlamb

#meabfi and #mediaedchat discussed on L4Lnews-26-11-2012 - Part 2 http://t.co/IwyYzpRH via @Audioboo

26-Nov-12 08:24 | andywallis

@andywallis Media studies and Film Education resources covered on http://t.co/gZOr0GcJ jump to the mediapart of the programme #mediaedchat

26-Nov-12 08:13 | eyebeams

Twitter list for those interested in the first #mediaedchat tomorrow is growing fast http://t.co/V4zmPcPY

26-Nov-12 08:10 | andywallis