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#mediaedchat
First mediaedchat
First mediaedchat
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@thecuriousgeek Was really interesting, hoping to get @ELISSAMOORE and the others to tune in next week aswell #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 22:14 | mr_m_ellis
@mr_m_ellis just checked out the great #mediaedchat discussions. Sorry I missed it-got stuck in the car. Willcertainly tune in next week.
27-Nov-12 21:32 | thecuriousgeek
#mediaedchat - that quote was from a tweet just tweeted from one of last year's students!
27-Nov-12 21:30 | GeorgeEBlack
#mediaedchat "I'd say for course I'm doing at uni, media was definitely the most useful subject! Even alreadyknew some of the syllabus!"
27-Nov-12 21:29 | GeorgeEBlack
RT @GeorgeEBlack: Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now.Media teachers check it out!
27-Nov-12 21:12 | hgaldinoshea
RT @GeorgeEBlack: Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now.Media teachers check it out!
27-Nov-12 21:08 | lollhg
RT @GeorgeEBlack: Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now.Media teachers check it out!
27-Nov-12 21:06 | uk_teacher
Good first #mediaedchat, the govt agenda maybe bleak but a lot of optimism amongst teachers
27-Nov-12 21:05 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
Well #mediaedchat was a bit of a discovery tonight - looking forward to next week's now. Media teachers check itout!
27-Nov-12 21:05 | GeorgeEBlack
RT @andywallis: More #mediaedchat next Tuesday at 8pm. Enjoy the rest of your evening everyone. Thanksagain
27-Nov-12 21:03 | GeorgeEBlack
thanks all it's been great and I hope it can grow and grow #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 21:01 | nizlamb
More #mediaedchat next Tuesday at 8pm. Enjoy the rest of your evening everyone. Thanks again
27-Nov-12 21:01 | andywallis
Thanks @andywallis Nice start!#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 21:01 | hgaldinoshea
@nizlamb yep I will document it all #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 21:00 | andywallis
MANY thanks to all who have taken part in the first weekly #mediaedchat Lots more folk than I expected & plentyof positive thoughts
27-Nov-12 21:00 | andywallis
@andywallis are you going to publish tonights #mediaedchat on your blog/create a new site for it?
27-Nov-12 20:59 | nizlamb
RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for gettingthis thing started- a decent turnout !
27-Nov-12 20:58 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@mr_m_ellis it will be weekly #mediaedchat Have already got next week's topic sorted!
27-Nov-12 20:58 | andywallis
RT @MrsBirks: #mediaedchat 1 person depts need to get our students to talk about the subject more? - they'reoften happy to say how difficult it is!
27-Nov-12 20:58 | hgaldinoshea
@petesmediablog @steviedm #mediaedchat Crikey!
27-Nov-12 20:57 | hgaldinoshea
@petesmediablog Agreed - been really interesting, thanks Andy, would love to see this happening regularly#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:57 | mr_m_ellis
#mediaedchat yes, cheers, Andy. Good luck 2nd half Black Cats. Oh and Palace too @petesmediablog
27-Nov-12 20:57 | steviedm
MT @petesmediablog #mediaedchat three cheers for Andy for getting this thing started- a decent turnout !
27-Nov-12 20:57 | Teach_Media
@nizlamb @lollhg @steviedm think we all face that one…tokenism #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:57 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@DelaneyMedia #mediaedchat woohoo! well done- shows it can be done!
27-Nov-12 20:57 | petesmediablog
#mediaedchat well I found this by accident - but I will be back next week! Thank you!
27-Nov-12 20:57 | GeorgeEBlack
RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for gettingthis thing started- a decent turnout !
27-Nov-12 20:57 | hgaldinoshea
With just a few minutes to go, I think that the first #mediaedchat shows there's a lot to be optimistic about
27-Nov-12 20:57 | andywallis
@steviedm #mediaedchat not really at the moment- main thing is no mechanism exists for this 'approval' for anysubject! just a Gove 'idea'
27-Nov-12 20:56 | petesmediablog
RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for gettingthis thing started- a decent turnout !
27-Nov-12 20:56 | GeorgeEBlack
@DelaneyMedia @petesmediablog #mediaedchat how did you get year 9 class?they doing Gcse or into tosubject ?
27-Nov-12 20:56 | KTSMedia1
RT @KTSMedia1: #mediaedchat @Teach_Media this is main challenge when trying to 'sell' the subject . I don'tthink a level esp can be classed 'soft'
27-Nov-12 20:56 | COLFESmedia
#mediaedchat before I go back to watch 'I'm a celebrity', three cheers for Andy for getting this thing started- adecent turnout !
27-Nov-12 20:56 | petesmediablog
#mediaedchat 1 person depts need to get our students to talk about the subject more? - they're often happy tosay how difficult it is!
27-Nov-12 20:55 | MrsBirks
@petesmediablog 1 yr 11 class, 3 yr 10+4 new yr 9 classes just started...we are growing!Going for 5 classesstarting next yr! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:55 | DelaneyMedia
@andywallis #mediaedchat #optimism Now we need to address 'What unis?'
But surely it is a way to challenge public perceptions...27-Nov-12 20:55 | hgaldinoshea
@petesmediablog Pete, are there fears unis won't approve if they feel they cover the same stuff in their 1st year?#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:55 | steviedm
@lollhg @steviedm absolutely. Work in media at my school often adapted/for whole school. Even if oftenbastardised or misused! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:53 | nizlamb
@hgaldinoshea some Unis have commented on how MS helps students to learn about how they learn i.e. trueevaluations #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:53 | andywallis
That's me too. RT @MrsBirks #mediaedchat Also difficult to challenge perceptions of subject when a 1 persondept - many of us are?
27-Nov-12 20:52 | Teach_Media
RT @KTSMedia1: @steviedm #mediaedchat and it is becoming a subject of eve more importance in the realworld. Impact of media & tech on our lives massive.
27-Nov-12 20:52 | GeorgeEBlack
@hgaldinoshea #mediaedchat the new A levels will have to have uni approval, but organising that will be verycomplex
27-Nov-12 20:52 | petesmediablog
“@andywallis: @hgaldinoshea from talking to students a lot of Unis see the benefits of MS #mediaedchat ”This needs to be confirmed+shared!
27-Nov-12 20:52 | hgaldinoshea
@MrsBirks "difficult to challenge perceptions of subject when a 1 person dept - many of us are?" -> all the morereason for #mediaedchat :)
27-Nov-12 20:52 | mister_seal
@steviedm agreed - Media in our school is helping in driving technology and creative teaching forward#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:52 | lollhg
@steviedm #mediaedchat and it is becoming a subject of eve more importance in the real world. Impact ofmedia & tech on our lives massive.
27-Nov-12 20:51 | KTSMedia1
@mr_m_ellis ...good example, Media started them, now the whole student diary scheme the school runs is basedon a blog. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:51 | GeorgeEBlack
@steviedm previously the DoE had looked at ways of doing this but this new report shows no attempt#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:51 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@hgaldinoshea from talking to students a lot of Unis see the benefits of MS #mediaedchat #optimism
27-Nov-12 20:51 | andywallis
just come in on chat #mediaedchat sorry if said before but isn't the broadness of media part of the prob?
27-Nov-12 20:51 | mediaradarguru
#mediaedchat Also difficult to challenge perceptions of subject when a 1 person dept - many of us are?
27-Nov-12 20:50 | MrsBirks
If nothing else, current Govt has made my kids much more political and angry/aware. That's got to be somereason for optimism! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:50 | mister_seal
@mr_m_ellis totally agree, it's Media and Art in our school that seem to be happy to embrace and new ideas,blogs are a good... #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:50 | GeorgeEBlack
#mediaedchat my last few tweets are gonna be positive - I do think subject has higher status than at any timesince I've been teaching it.
27-Nov-12 20:50 | steviedm
#mediaedchat So perhaps we should ask unis to dispel students' doubts about their choice of subject... To helpus promote the subject...
27-Nov-12 20:49 | hgaldinoshea
@mr_m_ellis It is! I think our Departments are well placed to lead/advise on technological advancements#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:48 | mr_m_ellis
#mediaedchat interesting about numbers. I work in a private school that does teach Media Studies but I'm onlyallowed a couple of groups
27-Nov-12 20:48 | MrsBirks
#mediaedchat and we're a private school. Subject is slowly being recognised as having value, students value theskills and transfer them
27-Nov-12 20:48 | GeorgeEBlack
@mr_m_ellis utterly agree and that's so good to hear #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:48 | andywallis
RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:47 | Teach_Media
“@GeorgeEBlack: #mediaedchat we have 38 across two sets in year 12, biggest number yet, and almost all ofthem actually want to do it.”:)
27-Nov-12 20:47 | hgaldinoshea
#mediaedchat we have 38 across two sets in year 12, biggest number yet, and almost all of them actually want todo it.
27-Nov-12 20:46 | GeorgeEBlack
#mediaedchat In Canada, media doesn't stand alone. It's embedded across curriculum, i.e paid lip service. Modelcould be argued for here.
27-Nov-12 20:45 | steviedm
@mr_m_ellis I hope that it's good news for all learning! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:45 | andywallis
#mediaedchat Could wider uptake of 1:1 iPad schemes and similar be good news for MS?
27-Nov-12 20:45 | mr_m_ellis
@lollhg absolutely agree #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:44 | andywallis
@andywallis even more reason for us to keep pushing to promote the transferable skills our course offer#mediaedchat but it is bleak!
27-Nov-12 20:44 | lollhg
@steviedm nothing to do with public perception/Russell Group? #mediaedchat It's been quite odd imo
27-Nov-12 20:44 | andywallis
@andywallis Think it's just fluctuations in intake. We've got a great lot this year but a poor lot last. Random inmany ways. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:43 | steviedm
RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones,tablets - I see no-one else teaching them how
27-Nov-12 20:43 | Teach_Media
RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:42 | andywallis
RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:42 | petesmediablog
@lollhg think this is different, media literacy was always suggested as embedding across the curriculumpreviously #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:42 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@petesmediablog I think that it's the phrasing in it and that not everything will be addressed fully #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:42 | andywallis
RT @nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profilefor MEA #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:42 | MsKateRyan
“@nizlamb: what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profile forMEA #mediaedchat”YES
27-Nov-12 20:41 | hgaldinoshea
@steviedm any ideas why the increase/plummet? Mine also went down last year, but increased this year#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:41 | andywallis
@mr_m_ellis @GoGo_GadgetGirl In terms of content and pedagogy. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:41 | mister_seal
@andywallis #mediaedchat ofqual paper limits coursework %. Where else do you think it is bleak?
27-Nov-12 20:41 | petesmediablog
Truth is, ebacc subjects are easier than MS. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:41 | rbtmcm
@petesmediablog two years ago 10 students in AS now 39 #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:41 | lollhg
what can we do collectively? More networking, share good practice, success stories, higher profile for MEA#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:40 | nizlamb
@nizlamb #mediaedchat Definitely! Worries over what unis will think was a common discussion during 6th firmopen eve again this year
27-Nov-12 20:40 | hgaldinoshea
@andywallis yes, but numbers plummeted year before so still below levels of 3 years ago. We've got 35 doingAS Film this year. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:40 | steviedm
@lollhg very unusual to hear of numbers on rise; nationally at A level 20% fall for Film/Media last year- first timeever #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:39 | petesmediablog
@GoGo_GadgetGirl Agreed, the media and technology changing all the time, we must keep up to stay relevant#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:39 | mr_m_ellis
RT @andywallis: @lollhg yes there has always been a battle, but the recent Ofqual paper is pretty bleak for MS#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:39 | andywallis
RT @lollhg: #mediaedchat our numbers doubled over the last 2years, students are optimistic we must keep thisup - haven't we always had this battle?
27-Nov-12 20:39 | hgaldinoshea
RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones,tablets - I see no-one else teaching them how
27-Nov-12 20:38 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
Rightly so, we are the subject that has to consistently adapts and evolves, no room for us being stagnantteachers #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:38 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@nizlamb #mediaedchat Sounds fab. I've got to do more promotion. Students enjoy the course and do well.There is hope after all :))
27-Nov-12 20:37 | hgaldinoshea
@hgaldinoshea school in a fairly deprived area though. Higher parental involvement or more middle class mightbe different? #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:37 | nizlamb
#mediaedchat our numbers doubled over the last 2years, students are optimistic we must keep this up - haven'twe always had this battle?
27-Nov-12 20:37 | lollhg
@steviedm #mediaedchat what happened in the USA with charter schools and destruction of curriculum is inearly stages here
27-Nov-12 20:36 | petesmediablog
@petesmediablog that's when you need to intervene - while the chaos is happening, to shape the direction of thedebate #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:36 | digitaldaisies
#mediaedchat sorry for my tweets, just adding in the #
27-Nov-12 20:35 | KTSMedia1
@petesmediablog @andywallis #mediaedchat Budgets... Yes, unfortunately
27-Nov-12 20:35 | hgaldinoshea
@petesmediablog @andywallis #mediaedchat What do you mean over results?
27-Nov-12 20:35 | hgaldinoshea
@petesmediablog clamp down. That's what I fear. They've barely scratched the surface yet IMO. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:35 | steviedm
@KTSMedia1 Fully agree. A level Media and Film not soft. Unseen textual analysis exams can be challenging#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:35 | Teach_Media
@Teach_Media @rbtmcm @andywallis #mediaedchat Something I have learnt to love ;))But what a learning curve for teachers too!
27-Nov-12 20:34 | hgaldinoshea
#mediaedchat: @steviedm but no guarantee doing 'proper' subjects will achieve well being either. So why notlearn, question and explore?
27-Nov-12 20:34 | KTSMedia1
@hgaldinoshea #mediaedchat we have a 'stay of execution' at least till 2015 GCSE/A starters. It's whether itwithers in meantime
27-Nov-12 20:34 | petesmediablog
@hgaldinoshea word of mouth from those studying mainly. Wide range but significant numbers of high achievingstudents #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:34 | nizlamb
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 20:33 | lollhg
@MsKateRyan great to hear. Has there been an impact in relation to A Level numbers? #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:33 | andywallis
#mediaedchat my college yet to see effects of schools' Ebac push. Media up 20% this year and Film up by 50%.Declining trend overall tho.
27-Nov-12 20:33 | steviedm
#mediaedchat: @hgaldinoshea the transferable skills are one of my selling point. How can subject with level ofanalysis not be valid subject
27-Nov-12 20:33 | KTSMedia1
@petesmediablog @rbtmcm am working on a solution to change that perception! Might take a while...#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:33 | andywallis
Media studies is a popular choice at our school. I look forward to my 3 hours a week teaching it. Optimism not aproblem here #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:33 | MsKateRyan
@andywallis #mediaedchat there will be chaos over results and curriculum as well as budgets. Trouble is thatmay lead to clampdown
27-Nov-12 20:32 | petesmediablog
@rbtmcm @andywallis yes, MS teachers find themselves teaching Marxism in the morning and building websitesin the afternoon (!) #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:32 | Teach_Media
#mediaedchat @Teach_Media this is main challenge when trying to 'sell' the subject . I don't think a level esp canbe classed 'soft'
27-Nov-12 20:32 | KTSMedia1
@nizlamb Really? How much promotion do you do and what kind of students do u attract? #mediaedchatWe tend to lose more academic students
27-Nov-12 20:31 | hgaldinoshea
RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones,tablets - I see no-one else teaching them how
27-Nov-12 20:31 | lollhg
@hgaldinoshea @andywallis I like that idea. Sights are set elsewhere at the moment, but we should be ready toargue our case #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:31 | digitaldaisies
@andywallis @rbtmcm don't think anyone knows enough to make rational judgement- it's just lazy shorthand todismiss media ed #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:31 | petesmediablog
@petesmediablog I like to think so! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:30 | nizlamb
@petesmediablog #mediaedchat But didn't you suggest yourself that since it's a low priority subject, we shouldn'tbe too worried?
27-Nov-12 20:30 | hgaldinoshea
@nizlamb really? that bucks the trend. You must be responsible! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:30 | petesmediablog
#mediaedchat retaining numbers is vital as we must be optimistic that we will vote for change - students enjoyMedia so gain abundant skills
27-Nov-12 20:29 | lollhg
@petesmediablog should we be creating the chaos? Or will that be done for us?! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:29 | andywallis
@andywallis The challenge in the subject is to be good at both. Few are! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:29 | rbtmcm
#mediaedchat Our students see their entire world through Media - social networks, phones, tablets - I see no-oneelse teaching them how
27-Nov-12 20:29 | mr_m_ellis
despite many being pushed towards EBACC subjects. Now they are dropping those to join MS & FS#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:29 | nizlamb
media & film studies still the most popular GCSE options at my school in fact more popular than ever before…#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:28 | nizlamb
@rbtmcm is that maybe a prob that it is often seen as either not academic enough or not creative enough?#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:28 | andywallis
@petesmediablog You ARE an eternal optimist :)#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:27 | hgaldinoshea
@steviedm #mediaedchat I'm not hearing much from the other camp either...
27-Nov-12 20:27 | hgaldinoshea
#mediaedchat I agree with @petesmediablog. No hope with this government. We need to pray (& vote) forchange & engage those who will succeed
27-Nov-12 20:26 | steviedm
#mediaedchat I think DB was right that there will be chaos as a result of all Gove's 'reforms'; it's what comes outof chaos that's crucial
27-Nov-12 20:26 | petesmediablog
There’s a need to emphasise the academic side of MS more - especially in exposing lightweight windbags whofear scrutiny. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:26 | rbtmcm
#mediaedchat this neo-liberal government will never understand learning for learning's sake. Achieving 'economicwell being' trumps all.
27-Nov-12 20:25 | steviedm
@mr_m_ellis @Teach_Media @nizlamb How did you achieve that do you think?#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:24 | hgaldinoshea
RT @Teach_Media: Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watchingtelly! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:24 | lollhg
#mediaedchat possibly best hope for future is to get message across to Twigg for the next Labour govt to besupportive of media education
27-Nov-12 20:24 | petesmediablog
“@mister_seal: @hgaldinoshea @steviedm And we have responsblty to promote learning as more than a meansto an end. #mediaedchat”Yes!
27-Nov-12 20:23 | hgaldinoshea
We need to show importance and skills developed via media. The media produced now, will eventually bestudied as history. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:23 | Teach_Media
@mr_m_ellis absolutely. our students need to understand why and what skills media ed offers them that othersubjects do not #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:23 | nizlamb
@Teach_Media @nizlamb #mediaedchat Perceptions in my school among staff, have improved in last 5 years
27-Nov-12 20:23 | mr_m_ellis
@andywallis @GoGo_GadgetGirl True.#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:23 | hgaldinoshea
RT @Teach_Media: Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watchingtelly! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:22 | MsKateRyan
@hgaldinoshea @steviedm And we have responsblty to promote learning as more than a means to an end.#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:22 | mister_seal
#mediaedchat I vote @andywallis dons a Mickey Mouse costume and delivers a strongly worded defence ofmedia to the Gove household.
27-Nov-12 20:21 | steviedm
RT @Teach_Media: Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watchingtelly! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:21 | hgaldinoshea
@nizlamb @hgaldinoshea the Art department introduced Graphics from year 9. Our media numbers drasticallyfell in options #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:21 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@hgaldinoshea @GoGo_GadgetGirl does it need to be an either/or in relation to career/subject? I hope neither#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:21 | andywallis
RT @steviedm: #mediaedchat re perceptions - no mention of media in relation to national angst over body image.Bizarre it's ignored in this context.
27-Nov-12 20:21 | hgaldinoshea
@nizlamb I couldn't agree more. Sometimes the subject is ridiculed by other teachers too. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:20 | Teach_Media
@steviedm I agree!!!!#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:19 | hgaldinoshea
#mediaedchat Students need to be equipped with "I take MS which means I can...."
27-Nov-12 20:19 | mr_m_ellis
#mediaedchat re perceptions - no mention of media in relation to national angst over body image. Bizarre it'signored in this context.
27-Nov-12 20:19 | steviedm
@hgaldinoshea @andywallis disaster, if you even had to joy of teaching the Creative & Media diploma you willunderstand #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:18 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@hgaldinoshea YES! Media introduced at KS3 and before is a crucial step I think and 1 i am currently fighting forin my school #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:18 | nizlamb
@mr_m_ellis @Teach_Media I think VERY few people outside of schools know what MS is #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:18 | andywallis
@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis Do you see this as a good thing or not?#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:17 | hgaldinoshea
@hgaldinoshea @andywallis both, the impact of students studying Media defo is beneficial to all their otherstudies #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:17 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@nizlamb I tend to think so, yes. If started earlier down the school, could cover more and ensureprogression+more coverage#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:17 | hgaldinoshea
@mister_seal hopefully we already do that, but for Gove it must all be factual! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:17 | andywallis
@mr_m_ellis @teach_media and not just outside school but within also #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:17 | nizlamb
#mediaedchat students need to be realistic about media careers. It's likely they won't end up working in it -transferable skills crucial.
27-Nov-12 20:16 | steviedm
@mr_m_ellis @teach_media I genuinely think they have no idea #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:16 | nizlamb
@andywallis we must offer breadth and challenge to engage, stretch, and remain relevant. #mediaedchatmedialiteracy and all that...!
27-Nov-12 20:15 | mister_seal
@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis but should studying MS be seen as step towards these careers or simply avalid subject in itself?#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:15 | hgaldinoshea
@hgaldinoshea @andywallis I teach the OCR Nationals and the new Cambridge tech. soon examinations will beincorporated #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:15 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
#mediaedchat @Teach_Media Absolutely right - View of society crucial, what do people outside our schools thinkMS is?
27-Nov-12 20:15 | mr_m_ellis
@hgaldinoshea also a strength though? #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:14 | nizlamb
@hgaldinoshea @andywallis indeed, it’s a shame no-one makes the connection of a booming film industry andthe people required #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:14 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
“@nizlamb: #mediaedchat perhaps a prb is the fractured nature of the subject now. It covers so mny differentdisciplines and areas?”Maybe
27-Nov-12 20:14 | hgaldinoshea
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 20:13 | MsKateRyan
@nizlamb Agree. CulturalStudies/ filmmaking/ graphics/ vid games... - a wide range, but challenge and breadth isreward #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:13 | mister_seal
so how can we get the balance right and more importantly how can we convince others? #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:13 | andywallis
@KTSMedia1 Might be a bit unfair there.#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:13 | hgaldinoshea
Media still seen as 'soft'- we need to stress its transferable skills. More to it than watching telly! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:12 | Teach_Media
RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat We must make Media vital in our own schools/academies/Communities - lookfor opportunities beyond the curriculum
27-Nov-12 20:12 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@andywallis #mediaedchat True of mine!
27-Nov-12 20:12 | hgaldinoshea
@steviedm I think that might be a scenario that Gove would advocate! #mediaedchat We do need to work closerwith businesses/communities
27-Nov-12 20:11 | andywallis
it’s what we do in the class and around the school. Recruiting through extra curricular club from yr 7-9#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:11 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis Is it a vocational subject generally or are you talking about Btec?#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:10 | hgaldinoshea
#mediaedchat perhaps a prb is the fractured nature of the subject now. It covers so mny different disciplines andareas?
27-Nov-12 20:10 | nizlamb
#mediaedchat in my college, we've linked up with a local production company & apply for funding to give studentsvocational media ops.
27-Nov-12 20:10 | steviedm
@hgaldinoshea @GoGo_GadgetGirl interesting point. Is the division a problem? #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:10 | andywallis
#mediaedchat govt don't want subjects to b enjoyed. But don't OFSTED have some requirement for 'engaging' &interactive lessons? Conflict?
27-Nov-12 20:10 | KTSMedia1
RT @nizlamb: to challenge, change and develop media education in the UK #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:09 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
RT @nizlamb: For one this #mediaedchat at the very least suggests that there is a core of dedicated, enthusiasticteachers out there who are willing...
27-Nov-12 20:09 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@nizlamb absolutely, but we need to make our voices heard on so many levels #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:09 | andywallis
RT @Teach_Media: Media (and arts in general) not really featuring in new curriculum, so far, so I can understandpessimism. #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:08 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
@GoGo_GadgetGirl @andywallis #mediaedchat Isn't that the first pb with MS? The fact that it is a practical aswell as an academic subject?
27-Nov-12 20:08 | hgaldinoshea
RT @mr_m_ellis: #mediaedchat We must make Media vital in our own schools/academies/Communities - lookfor opportunities beyond the curriculum
27-Nov-12 20:08 | andywallis
#mediaedchat lobbying has taken place to put our case but Gove consults, ignores findings & does what hewants anyway. A dangerous man.
27-Nov-12 20:08 | steviedm
@KTSMedia1 I think that we could be in a game of ever decreasing circles re change! #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:08 | andywallis
#mediaedchat We must make Media vital in our own schools/academies/Communities - look for opportunitiesbeyond the curriculum
27-Nov-12 20:08 | mr_m_ellis
Saturday's @MediaEdAssc conference should also give us all hope given that so many attended an event in theirown time #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:07 | nizlamb
@hgaldinoshea @andywallis my concern is the marginalization of vocational subjects that provide students tospecialise #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:07 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
#mediaedchat can we optimistically hope that soon enough this govt will be ousted and someone with some carefor education come in?
27-Nov-12 20:06 | KTSMedia1
#mediaedchat a lot of institutions are already experiencing a decrease in student numbers, despite studentsenjoying studying media
27-Nov-12 20:06 | andywallis
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 20:06 | rapclassroom
@KTSMedia1 @andywallis #mediaedchat So what exactly are the reasons to be pessimistic first of all?Shall we clear this up first?
27-Nov-12 20:06 | hgaldinoshea
Media (and arts in general) not really featuring in new curriculum, so far, so I can understand pessimism.#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:06 | Teach_Media
#mediaedchat Governments are, luckily, temporary - Gove will eventually be gone - change is the one constant Ihave seen in education
27-Nov-12 20:06 | mr_m_ellis
#mediaedchat I think @steviedm has a point here that Gove will seek to push Media to one side, but what can wedo to ensure it doesn't?
27-Nov-12 20:06 | andywallis
to challenge, change and develop media education in the UK #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:06 | nizlamb
For one this #mediaedchat at the very least suggests that there is a core of dedicated, enthusiastic teachers outthere who are willing...
27-Nov-12 20:05 | nizlamb
Amongst teachers there is defo evidence of optimism, highlighting the growing number so passionate about thesubject #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:05 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
#mediaedchat my fear is Gove will seek to remove UCAS points from A level media. He could potentially argue itshould be extracurricular.
27-Nov-12 20:04 | steviedm
#mediaedchat surely there is a lot of room for optimism as everything seems so pessimistic at the moment. Aman eternal optimist though!
27-Nov-12 20:03 | KTSMedia1
#mediaedchat We are entering a massive period of change, which should mean opportunities for the flexible
27-Nov-12 20:02 | mr_m_ellis
#mediaedchat it's the least optimistic I've been in 10 years of teaching media as schools kowtow to gvmt policyand Gove's agenda is clear.
27-Nov-12 20:02 | steviedm
Whilst I do think he had some very valid points to make in his keynote I think he was perhaps overly pessimistic.#mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:02 | nizlamb
OK, here goes! Do you agree with D.Buckingham saying there is "very little room for optimism" for mediaeducation in the UK #mediaedchat
27-Nov-12 20:00 | andywallis
@andywallis have you organised this #mediaedchat to distract you from the potential damage Harry's lot aregoing to do to you tonight?
27-Nov-12 19:52 | steviedm
10mins until the first #mediaedchat...
27-Nov-12 19:49 | andywallis
RT @andywallis reminder - #mediaedchat starts at 8pm. 1st topic: is there "very little room for optimism" formedia education? @mr_m_ellis
27-Nov-12 19:19 | thecuriousgeek
RT @andywallis: A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room foroptimism" for media education?
27-Nov-12 18:56 | nizlamb
RT @andywallis: A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room foroptimism" for media education?
27-Nov-12 18:18 | uk_teacher
RT @andywallis: A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room foroptimism" for media education?
27-Nov-12 18:16 | hgaldinoshea
@andywallis gutted can't make #mediaedchat tonight- will catch up on the tweets later - hope it goes well ...
27-Nov-12 18:00 | TheoKuechel
A reminder that #mediaedchat starts at 8pm tonight. First topic: is there "very little room for optimism" for mediaeducation?
27-Nov-12 15:58 | andywallis
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 07:30 | data_fiend
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 07:26 | alatalite
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 07:22 | nizlamb
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 07:20 | islayian
RT @andywallis: A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 07:15 | digitaldaisies
A reminder of tonight's topic for #mediaedchat http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
27-Nov-12 07:08 | andywallis
RT @petesmediablog: #mediaedchat tomorrow 8pm. I'll be there (here?) join in!
26-Nov-12 20:49 | hgaldinoshea
@andywallis #mediaedchat I'd like to join in but am rubbish at twitter - what do I need to do? Thanks
26-Nov-12 20:43 | MrsBirks
#mediaedchat tomorrow 8pm. I'll be there (here?) join in!
26-Nov-12 20:33 | petesmediablog
RT @hgaldinoshea: RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaAPlease RT :)”
26-Nov-12 20:22 | petesmediablog
RT @hgaldinoshea: RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaAPlease RT :)”
26-Nov-12 19:04 | digitaldaisies
RT @hgaldinoshea: RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaAPlease RT :)”
26-Nov-12 18:52 | lisajaneashes
RT “@andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/UDVvfUaA Please RT :)”
26-Nov-12 18:51 | hgaldinoshea
RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 18:20 | mediaedwales
RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 18:15 | tombarrance
RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 17:49 | NooPuddles
RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 17:42 | nizlamb
RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 17:21 | hgaldinoshea
RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 17:21 | GoGo_GadgetGirl
RT @andywallis: Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 17:18 | islayian
Topic for tomorrow's #mediaedchat announced http://t.co/nbYTcDSO Please RT :)
26-Nov-12 17:17 | andywallis
@nizlamb @hgaldinoshea good to know you both think it'll be a good starting point #mediaedchat
26-Nov-12 10:12 | andywallis
RT @nizlamb: Looking forward to the inaugural #mediaedchat on Tues 8-9pm. Get involved media educators
26-Nov-12 10:00 | hgaldinoshea
@andywallis @hgaldinoshea will save any more ranting for tomorrows #mediaedchat
26-Nov-12 09:54 | nizlamb
RT @andywallis: Twitter list for those interested in the first #mediaedchat tomorrow is growing fasthttp://t.co/V4zmPcPY
26-Nov-12 09:45 | hgaldinoshea
Looking forward to the inaugural #mediaedchat on Tues 8-9pm. Get involved media educators
26-Nov-12 09:21 | nizlamb
#meabfi and #mediaedchat discussed on L4Lnews-26-11-2012 - Part 2 http://t.co/IwyYzpRH via @Audioboo
26-Nov-12 08:24 | andywallis
@andywallis Media studies and Film Education resources covered on http://t.co/gZOr0GcJ jump to the mediapart of the programme #mediaedchat
26-Nov-12 08:13 | eyebeams
Twitter list for those interested in the first #mediaedchat tomorrow is growing fast http://t.co/V4zmPcPY
26-Nov-12 08:10 | andywallis