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    10/8/2015 EverNote vs. OneNote Manage This!

    http://manage-this.com/evernote-vs-onenote/

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    Sticky Note Surprise

    EverNote vs. OneNoteUPDATE July 2008: Since writing this post in October 2007, someimportant things have changed on the EverNote side. Im currently

    evaluating the EverNote 3 betaand will let you know how things turn out.

    The original post is below

    Okay, lets have it out! What tool is best for capturing and organizi ng

    notes? For a long time I used nothing but Notepad, plus some hand-

    crafted AutoHotkey scripts. As I got further into my GTD implementation,

    I wanted something that fit that methodology better and also integrated

    well with Microsoft Outlook. By the way, this post probably reeks of

    Procrastivity, but lets indulge for a bit.

    I canvassed the field multiple multiple times. I installed and uninstalled

    many a tool on my poor tired laptop, probably making a mess of my

    registry. There were two tools that I kept coming back to: EverNote and

    OneNote. Eventually those were the only tools left. For several months I

    used both tools simultaneously, going back and forth between the two

    trying to find that one reason that would tip the scales. That one reason

    never came. Both tools had some great features, and each tool also had

    several painful shortcomings. To help force the decision, I did what any

    self-respecting anal-retentive manager would do: I made a list!

    The list below represents those features that were important to mefor my

    system along with Low/Medium/High priorities. Where there were major

    shortcomings, I tried my bestto find a work-around as if I had already

    decided to select that tool and make it work.

    Feature Pri EverNote 2.1 OneNote 2007

    TextRecognition

    H Yes, but doesntallow you tocopy/select text

    Yes, and text canbe easily extracted

    HandwritingRecognition(image, notdigital ink)

    H Yes, but uses ashotgun wordapproach anddoesnt allow you to

    No.

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    Bending OneNote and Outlook to

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    Setting up OneNote for GTD

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    copy/extract text.

    Auto Import H Very nice import oftext and images

    just by dropping tofolder.

    No. I wish OneNotehad this. I even triedsome of thecurrently availablePowerToys and nosuch luck. There aresome command linetricks you can do,

    but these are veryawkward.

    PDF Import/Export

    M No, EverNotebasically doesnthandle PDFs. Youhave to just add alink to the file (asan icon). I gotaround thissomewhat with aGhostscriptcommand file I

    wrote to extractJPEGs from thePDF andautomatically sendthem to EverNote.

    Yes. You have toinstall the iFilterfrom Adobe, butafter that you haveoptions to import,export, email, etc.

    Web Clippingfrom IE andFirefox

    H Yes fast andaccurate with linksto original clip andforget.

    Poor Formatssomewhat mangled,Firefox is via 3rdparty extension,slow & distracting(you have to watchOneNote open,

    splash screen andall)

    Easily createOutlook tasksfrom Notes

    H No, manual process Yes, very easy tocreate. Some issueswhere tasks get outof sync (if you movetask to anotherfolder)

    Send note viaemail

    L Yes, although notesare more of ascreen shot (not

    editable) format

    Yes, but includedfunction is weak(sends as OneNote

    attachment). Canget add-on thatsends via PDF.

    On-Screenediting ofnotes

    H Very limited.Cannot draw orfloat text overimages. Wheninserting somethingeverything elsemoves around.

    Yes, excellentcapability here. Alsoincludes a lot of thestandard editing &drawing tools alaMicrosoft Word.

    Easy to learn M I know that scroll Editor and layout is

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    & use GUI tape is their thing,but its awkward.The notes list isnice for quickly

    jumping to notes.You can only viewone note at a timein full screen, andusually thelink/source info is

    not available in thatview.

    very easy if yourefamiliar with Officeproducts. The layersof notebooks andsections and tabsand pages feel a bitcluttered.

    Tagging/Categories

    M Yes, Excellent ability to tag notes,define rules forautomatic tags, andsearch via tagintersection panel

    Very weak andpoorly implemented.Only manual tags,no good taghierarchy. Thesearch functiondoesnt filter,instead createsawkward page withcopy of tagged

    items not linkedback to originalitems.

    Cost H FREE! As long asyou dont wanthandwritingrecognition (whichisnt ready forprimetime anyway)or sync multipledatabases.

    Fairly expensive$75 (standardlicense) on

    Amazon.com. I sawsome better dealson eBay ($55-60) ifyoure willing to dealwith smaller

    companies orindividuals.Microsoft does,however, offer a free60-day trial.

    Built inSearch

    H Yes, also like thefact that it starts tofilter as soon asyou type

    Yes

    Support forDesktop

    Search

    H No. Big minus here.No way to quickly

    get to all that usefuldata. I think theyare adding GoogleDesktop Searchcapability in v2.2however.

    Yes Works wellwith Windows

    Desktop Search.Should supportGoogle DesktopSearch too but Ihavent tested it.

    Ability to linkto notes fromother places

    M Yes Yes

    Speed H Generally not anissue fairlylightweight and fast.

    This was a bigproblem on my DellLatitude D610. By

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    Occasional hangs,but pretty rare.

    the time it openedand loaded thepage, I almost forgotwhat I was going to

    jot down. Not reallyan issue on myshiny new D630.

    So which one did I finally pick? Well, I broke down and bought a copy of

    OneNote 2007. One of the biggest reasons was desktop search capability.

    Even though EverNote has some very nice tagging capability, which

    trumps filing, search trumps tagging. Its like rock-paper-scissors but

    without the circular relationship.

    I also started to realize that I wasnt going to get anything (short of buying

    a tablet PC) that did highly reliable hand-writing recognition. I was

    occasionally impressed by that function in EverNote, and I have to give

    them credit since they are the only ones to have something like this in

    product, but its just not good enough yet to be useful. You cant extract

    the text, and if you peek at the XML content, youll see what I meant by

    shotgun approach above. For a given hand-written word, any word that is

    reasonably close gets entered into the database as a match. Its a one-to-

    many relationship, so you think its working because you get positive hits.

    When you search on what you expect to match, it matches fairly often.

    Whats not so obvious at first is that lots of other stuff (incorrect words)

    will match too. This one-to-many structure is probably why EverNote

    doesnt let you copy the recognized text from a hand-written paragraph.There is no cohesive translation per se.

    The final nails in the coffin were the editing capability (GUI) and the ability

    to make synchronized tasks in Outlook with a single click. There are

    some short-comings to this feature which I will discuss in a future post,

    but still pretty handy.

    So thats where I am today. It would be great to hear from you as to what

    tools you prefer and what you think of my assessments. Please post your

    comments below!

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    Fell in love with Evernote as soon as i saw the screenshotsand description everything i wanted.

    The capturing of data from desktop and firefox is handled

    beautifully. Sync from desktop to web to mobile oh no!!!

    no sync to windows mobile devices? What were they thinking,

    a notes app that doesnt sync to my HTC??

    Offline access, please!!!!

    Carl,

    Good topic! I just wanted to say for those with learning

    disabilities or who are more visual I think OneNote is the best

    product. I have sever dyslexia so I spell words backwards

    most times, and how I spell it on one day may not be the

    same the next. So tagging in Evernote by using words is analmost useless method for me. It would mean I could have 3-4

    tags for the same thing spelled differently, or that I have to run

    a Word document to spell check my tag, copy/paste into

    Evernote each time.

    OneNote however is great for this, not only is the same

    spellchecker features in Word on the screen already but the

    visual tags are fantastic. They mean I dont have to use

    written words for tags, I can use the icons. I have made full

    use of this creating tags with icons for things like MapDirections (the Car Icon) travel plans (the plane icon), Make a

    Call (the cell phone icon), E-mail someone (the email icon)

    Goals reached (Smiley face icon) Goals not reached (Frown

    icon), Achivents (Ribbon Icon), Money item (Dollar sign) ect.

    So I just press on the icon that relates to my tags and I have

    it tagged avoiding my writing disability.

    Its also great because I can visually see from the icons what

    types of things I need to get done today (which is good

    #1 written by philc

    May 27, 2009 - 6:58 am

    #2 written by Matt

    May 28, 2009 - 2:14 pm

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    because I invert letters when I read as well). Ive used it all

    through law school and am using it heavily in bar review right

    now and the visual tags make it very effective for me.

    The only issue is searching tags, I cant seem to find a away

    to just list all my make a call tags very easily. Oh, and I

    wish it had an Iphone App!

    Anyway just thought I would add that to the discussion.

    Matt Great points, thanks for the comment!

    -Carl

    Now that Evernote has actually updated to Version 3, here are

    a couple of things that they added.

    1. Allows you to copy and select text

    2. Full Handwriting and Image Text Finding

    3. PDF Support (using either Adobe or Foxit iFilter

    4. Free Syncroniztion of Handwriting and multiple databases(known as notebooks.

    With these new features, Evernote is probably better now than

    OneNote.

    Also worth noting is how Evernote and OneNote can beaccessed via a smart phone or on the internet. Evernote can

    be accessed on the iPhone with a great user interface.

    Evernote can also be accessed from the internet. OneNote

    can only be accessed with smartphone that uses Microsoft

    Windows Mobile. OneNote cannot be accesses over the

    internet.

    For these reasons, I stopped using OneNote (after three years

    with it) and moved to Evernote. I need access when Im away

    #3 written by carl

    May 29, 2009 - 6:31 am

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    June 12, 2009 - 6:56 am

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    from a computer and Evernote is great.

    Great comparison. It was nice to see a side by side

    comparson of EverNote and OneNote. I think one of the major

    reasons people prefer OneNote is the interface. Despite its

    lack of some specific features, one thing everyone seems to

    agree on is that it is so intutive and easy for just about

    evryone to use. I really hope that future versions include more

    features found in applications like Excel and possibly one day

    the ability to have live data in there.

    I enjoy EditPad Lite.

    Hi- I seem to be unable to get the type/selection tool to turn

    off so I can use the pens etc. Any help would be greatlyappreciated

    Jarrod -

    Sorry for the slow response If you have a question that is

    specific to OneNote itself, there are several places you can gofor help. The first place is the Microsoft Community forum.

    There are also some blogs maintained by the OneNote

    development team, such as the ones here and here.

    Hope that helps.

    -Carl

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    July 10, 2009 - 9:34 am

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    Attorney

    August 26, 2009 - 4:39 pm

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    October 26, 2009 - 4:35 am

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    November 4, 2009 - 8:44 pm

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    One of the key features for us was OneNotes ability to share

    notebooks and have others update them. You only need

    server space to do it and it works kind of like a Wiki.

    So if you want to share your notebook and have 4 or 5 people

    access it, you can all buy Evernote or use Hamachi 2.0 to linkyour computers to a central server.

    Good point, collaboration was once a big disadvantage

    for Evernote, but both sharing and collaboration are

    now available. Of course, actual collaboration with

    multiple editors is a premium/paid featurefor Evernote.

    -Carl

    Hello Carl,

    I dont understand your problem regarding searching in

    Evernote. The programs built-in search facility with orwithout tags is outstanding, why do you need Desktop

    Search?

    For me, EN is unparalleled, its weaned me off the

    disgracefully expensive and outdated Info Select and the only

    thing on my features wishlist is a Linux desktop app.

    Alan I agree the search feature in Evernote is great,

    but most of the time Im searching for things that are

    not in Evernote (emails, Outlook tasks, spreadsheets,

    presentations, text files, etc). Google Desktop Search

    and Windows Desktop Search are great free tools for

    finding this stuff. Since neither can index the Evernote

    database, Im stuck running multiple separate

    December 31, 2009 - 5:28 pm

    #11 written by carl

    January 4, 2010 - 12:14 am

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    January 3, 2010 - 4:18 pm

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    searches. There has been a lot ofdiscussionon the

    topic, but no progress from the Evernote team. I dont

    think anyone is actively working on this. Very

    disappointing.

    -Carl

    Hi Alan,

    Im very interested in what you say about Info Select.

    Ive used Info Select for many, many years I still use

    it every day. I take your point about the expense also

    its obsolescence (my biggest objection is the complete

    failure to consider the on-line option I find this

    incomprehensible).

    On the other hand, ISs search seems to be

    unparalleled. My knowledge of Evernote is so limited

    that its close to non-existent(!), but from what I can

    see it fails to match IS in one respect, and this is a

    crucial point for me. With IS, you dont have to tag. In

    other words, you dont have to know all the possible

    ways you might later want to find your information at

    the time you put it in. As a historian, I constantly put

    data into IS knowing its important, but without knowinghow Im going to use it. IS allows me just to drop a

    note into a general topic (folder) to which I can come

    back later. Or a search will bring it up in a context I

    havent previously considered.

    I cant see how Evernote allows this maybe it does

    and Im wrong but it looks to me as if its a huge

    grab-bag where things might get lost. Also, with IS, you

    can create patterns, and you can stick with them,

    modify them, or discard them later. Can you do this inEvernote?

    I suppose what makes me wonder most about

    Evernote is that almost the first thing it asks you to

    decide is what Notebook you put something in. Info

    Select doesnt require this.

    Sorry for going on so long: you can see how this has

    been on my mind! Id appreciate any thought you might

    #14written by NickOctober 11, 2010 - 6:25 pm

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    have.

    Sincerely,

    Nick.

    Hi Nick -

    From your description of Info Select, I think the

    notebooks in Evernote can be set up to do the

    same thing. I would recommend having a default

    notebook named something like ! INBOX. I use

    a special character so that it sorts to the top of

    the list. You can let items go there by default

    without any tags if you dont want to think about

    it when you capture the information. Later youcan create as many topic notebooks as you like,

    and drag & drop notes from the Inbox to those

    notebooks. I wouldnt recommend it, but you can

    avoid using tags altogether if that is your

    preference.

    -Carl

    And forgive me as well: I had a vague feeling as I

    typed that you were the same person to whom I had

    some time ago put exactly the same questions.

    I confess that I havent quite been convinced by

    Evernote. But thats in part perhaps because I havent

    been brave enough (or had the time) to make the

    investment in Evernote that would be necessary to seeif its for me, as it were.

    Sorry to bug you again!

    N.

    #15 written by carl

    November 27, 2010 - 11:09 pm

    #16written by Nick

    October 11, 2010 - 6:27 pm

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    February 7, 2010 - 8:24 am

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    Thanks for this thorough evaluation.

    Re. tags in Evernote, you mention that the user can define

    rules for automatic tags

    This would be really useful for me, however I cant see how to

    enable it in v3.5.

    Any ideas? Thanks!

    Hi James I need to do a full update to the post

    above Some features related to tag & category

    assignment, and the intersection panel, were definitely

    lost in the transition from EverNote 2 to Evernote 3.

    You can find some discussion of this here, here, and

    elsewhere. After this amount of time, it doesnt seem to

    be coming back. Your best best is to to use a saved

    search to approximate this functionality.

    -Carl

    Hi Carl,

    Very interested in your comment: Ive been using Info Select

    for years. I agree its expensive, but I basically rely on it for all

    my work. Im an academic and one of my core activities is

    writing articles, essays, chapters and so on. I use IS for

    storing and arranging all my notes, information, data etc., and

    I find Info Selects ability to allow you to create your own

    hierarchy, and to search literally everything absolutely

    essential.

    What I cant seem to discover without actually using Evernote

    is whether it can match IS in this regard. What Im asking,

    essentially, is whether, as in IS, you can drop information

    into relevant folders that you can work with later, i.e. create a

    sort of loose structure that you can update and change

    constantly, but which instantly searchable a the same time. At

    least from the publicity, Evernote looks like a big grab-bag of

    stuff, so that you can search and find anything, but perhaps

    #18 written by carl

    February 7, 2010 - 10:50 am

    #19 written by Nick

    February 17, 2010 - 6:00 pm

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    without imposing your own structure on your information.

    Im hoping thats a false impression, because in many ways

    Evernote looks really good. Can you tell me whether it

    replaces Info Select, or do you lose some of Info Selects

    strengths by going over to Evernote.

    Id be very interested, as well as grateful, for your thoughts.

    Nick.

    Hi Nick Evernote has a few ways to organize. First

    of all, you can create multiple notebooks and easily

    drag and drop notes between them. The notebooks can

    be either local, synchronized to the Evernote cloud, orpublished. When you search, you have the option of

    searching within a specific notebook or across all

    notebooks in your database. Beyond the hard

    landscape, Evernote also has saved searches with

    some pretty nice syntax available, as well as tagging

    capability. With tags, you can establish a hierarchy and

    group tags under other tags, etc.

    Im sure there are differences in the ways that Evernote

    and Info Select operate. I have never used Info Select,

    so I cant say for sure what you would be loosing.

    Since Evernote is free, my recommendation is to try it

    out for a while (without migrating any of your current IS

    data) and see if you like it.

    -Carl

    you can share the OneNote 2007 notes via a sharepoint

    server and you can ever work in colaboration, more users can

    edit the same note at the same time. Thats cool. But you

    need a Microsoft Sharepoint platform(server) to share files.

    #20 written by carl

    February 23, 2010 - 10:35 pm

    #21 written by daniel

    March 24, 2010 - 9:03 am

    #22 written by Alan Vallis

    March 24, 2010 - 11:02 am

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    @ Nick

    Ive dumped Info Select in favour of Evernote. Regarding

    folders. The main limitation of Evernote which attracts

    criticism is that there is no nesting of your folders (notebooks).

    However, its a deliberate policy. The philosophy seems to be

    that its better to search data than to structure it.

    This was the way Info Select was in V1 in when dinosaurs

    roamed the Earth.

    The good news is that you can nest tags. So Ive adopted the

    strategy of thinking of tags as folders then the problem goes

    away.

    I only have 3 folders: Photos, Invoices and Everything Else.

    The advantage of this strategy is that you can allot multiple

    tags to a note whereas it can only be in one notebook.

    Thanks for this, Alan your thoughts are interesting. I

    have a related comment though. I often enter

    information that I know will be important to me, but at

    the time Im entering it I dont know exactly HOW I am

    going to use it. Thinking up tags, therefore is not

    always possible at the time. )As you know Info Select I

    can use its jargon here.) What I do in situations like

    this (which occur every day) is create a Topic with

    some general heading, and drop notes into it the topic

    is like an old manila folder that I know Im going to

    open some time soon when I know the context in

    which Im going to use a particular piece of information.

    Its only then that I know my Tag. The powerful thing

    about IS is that it strikes a balance between the less

    structured approach of Evernote, and the ability to

    LOOSELY structure my information in as many ways

    as I like, so that I can find a piece of information whenI dont have a Tag and might not know exactly the right

    search to perform to find it.

    When Im writing an article for instance, Ill have

    loosely arranged potentially useful information in one of

    those manila folder topics, and I will read through it all

    to remind myself of what Im doing. With the structure

    you describe (with all my information in an Everything

    Else folder) I dont think Id be able to do that.

    #23written by Nick

    March 24, 2010 - 5:12 pm

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    Sorry to rabbit on about this (Aussie saying?!), but Id

    be interested in your thoughts, if you have time.

    Cheers,

    Nick.

    I use a fridge door tag for stuff like that. Or you can just have

    a Temp default notebook to dump stuff in.

    You may be interested in these two threads with a lot of

    comment about IS & Evernote, the first one on my blog and

    the second on another Kiwi blog:

    http://mywitsend.co.nz/computer-stuff/software/725

    http://jmacg.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/evernote-enters-my-

    life/

    Alan Vallis

    Whanganui

    Great Post. I add this Blog to my bookmarks.

    I am exactly like you, I cant choose between Evernote and

    OneNote. SO hard! But if I really have to choose, I think it

    would be Evernote, just because it is quicker to load, LOL.

    One problem with OneNote Web app, which is particularly

    stupid and annoying, is that the search box that shows in the

    desktop program disappears. For the life of me I do not know

    where it is. And I tried control-E to do a search in the Web

    app, but it does not work. That pretty much kills off Onenote

    #24 written by Alan Vallis

    March 25, 2010 - 12:14 am

    #25 written by lovemf

    May 1, 2010 - 10:57 pm

    #26written by Crystal

    May 17, 2010 - 3:29 am

    #27 written by SMA

    June 28, 2010 - 7:50 am

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    for me, since I need the mobility.

    I use MobilerNote (Free) with WiFi (Free registration on their

    site to activate) to sync my iPhone and iPad with OneNote.

    Since I use IE, I never really notice problems with web pages

    dropped into a notebook page.

    I use different notebooks/folders (color coded) for different

    things like projects, software have v. desired and tracking

    keys and serial numbers, SAP transactions and source data

    attributes (and meanings), etc.

    OneNote (two thumbs up) and MobilerNote on the iDevices!!

    Kurt thanks for the suggestions!

    I really want to like evernote because it has some features

    that one note does not, but I find the layout really unintuitive to

    use. I also find for clipping things which you would like to read

    later that the view is not very convenient for reading, but

    maybe that is because I have a mini netbook.

    I am surprised that people have trouble with loading onenote,

    because I have the opposite problem. Onenote loads quickly

    on startup and evernote takes forever. I have trouble with

    clipping too, its very slow in evernote, I dont know why. I like

    onenote for lists and compilations of info, such as info for a

    trip, etc. but I like evernote for storing whole webpages that I

    want to refer to later. Im sort of using both right now trying to

    figure out which to use as the main note taking. I was lucky

    that I got onenote free with my work office suite.

    #28written by Kurt

    July 1, 2010 - 12:39 pm

    #29 written by carl

    July 6, 2010 - 3:02 pm

    #30 written by Wander

    July 4, 2010 - 10:38 am

    #31 written by carl

    July 6, 2010 - 3:06 pm

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    Wander:

    I really want to like evernote because

    it has some features that one note

    does not, but I find the layout really

    unintuitive to use

    The layouts in the two tools are definitely different. The thing I

    like about the Evernote layout is that you can quickly sort

    and/or filter long lists of notes by different columns. With

    OneNote 2007, some of sections were getting cluttered with

    long list of page tabs. Hopefully Ill be able to try ON2010 in a

    few months to see if it is any better in that respect.

    -Carl

    Any update on a comparison of the current Evernote and

    OneNote 2010? I would be very interested in your thoughts

    around the new version of OneNote, and whether the previous

    shortcomings have been addressed for you.

    Hi Thiago I agree, it is definitely time for an update.

    OneNote 2010 has some updated features and

    potentially (TBD) better integration with Outlook 2010. I

    recently upgraded all of my Office apps to 2010, so I

    can now test them out. At the same time, Evernote 4.0

    looks really snappyand responsive. I am currently

    working on some other things, so Im not sure how

    soon I can update the comparison. It is definitely on my

    list.

    -Carl

    #32 written by Thiago Silva

    October 11, 2010 - 5:04 pm

    #33 written by carl

    November 27, 2010 - 10:55 pm

    #34 written by Loc

    December 1, 2010 - 1:25 am

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    I second Thiagos request on an update mainly because I

    was an original Evernote user but things just got way out of

    control and it only took a year (wrote about it here:

    http://digipim.com/blog/pim/evernotes-mess/ ) . From what I

    can tell, youve been using your OneNote system for multiple

    years now Carl. Im impressed that it lasted that long and

    wonder if we missed out on something by not trying OneNote

    fully. Would love an update on how things are going with it in

    general. Would love your wish list of what you want it to do

    too mainly b/c were trying to program our own system

    Sadly, this is a dance Ive done many a time I even made

    the analretentive list, though not quite like yours above (Mine

    was more a who does which better, may the highest score

    win!) Just my luck they tied.

    So after a while not using either (Completed my degree) After

    a few post college jobs Ive landed one with a project of

    unimaginable scale, and horrible documentation. So Ive come

    to accept notepads (those ones you use pens on!) Simply

    werent going to work out even for just keeping immediate

    issues.

    Kind of wish one would just crush the other in quality and

    feature set to make this easy for me.

    I agree, its a tough call. Of course, if one would just

    crush the other it may also start to become increasingly

    expensive. Competition is probably on our side

    Okay folks here it is:

    - Personal Use: Hands down Evernote because of its mobile

    software. Personally, Im a Droid user and the app is

    #35 written by Eric

    February 21, 2011 - 1:51 pm

    #36 written by carl

    February 27, 2011 - 2:34 pm

    #37 written by Chris Z

    February 25, 2011 - 7:13 pm

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    incredible. Im assuming the app for the iCrap is also

    awesome but considering it runs on a typical garbage Apple

    product, it might not run at all for you!! Anyway, I cant

    imagine shopping for anything without the cam grab feature

    and my pre-shopping web clipped Evernote research.

    - Professional Use: Hands down OneNote. This is almost

    entirely due to Evernote being more free form without enough

    view control. Using OneNote in the workplace, I have one

    notebook per project. I use tabs for different project elements

    such as Contact #s, Admin Stuff, Call Logs, etc. while I use

    pages within the tabs for individual records. The view usage

    allows you to organize and find documentation with

    tremendous ease. Comparing this to the search function in

    Evernote which returns EVERYTHING, I find OneNote to be a

    no brainer in the work place. Add to this the integration with

    the MS Office Suite, OneNote really is hands down the

    professional choice.

    I realize some of you need to use one tool or youre never

    happy so consider the work life balance aspect as making the

    move to a dual platform approach. I love work because it

    makes me rich but other than that, I really do hate it so by

    keeping my OneNote off of my mobile device, it does prevent

    me from working at all times. For example, if Im with a

    hooker, Ill answer a business call but I quickly wrap it up by

    saying I dont have my notes with mecall you back. On the

    flipside, using Evernote only for personal uses, I wont searchfor Contact Lists and have my favorite prostitute list come up

    on the screen with a co-worker looking over my shoulder.

    So at 7PM on a Friday night, Ill exit OneNote for the weekend

    and open up Evernote for the weekend. Have a good weekend

    all!!

    Chris Thanks for your detailed comments and for

    sharing your methods! I think the work/life separation is

    important. Sounds like it is especially critical for you.

    Maybe if you got a job as a pimp, you could go back to

    having everything in one tool?

    Glad to hear EN for Android is a nice app. I tried the

    Blackberry app and it was useless. It was basically

    #38 written by carl

    February 27, 2011 - 2:45 pm

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    just a portal to the EN website. There is a new version

    out now, I may give it another shot.

    -Carl

    Best comparison Ive found. I really appreciate the insite and

    The List. I think you helped me determine which one to

    pick niether! I will continue with hand written notes and filing

    until both programs fix the items you list above. Ill probably

    give Evernote a shot since it is free.

    Its becoming obvious that Evernote are not providing a Linux

    local client anytime soon so Ive been checking out Zim:

    http://zim-wiki.org/

    Its Tomboy Notes on steroids it runs on Windows, Linux and

    OS X. You can synchronise its database between computers

    and operating systems using Dropbox and its very good.

    Good review here:

    http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/70869.html

    Its not Evernote or OneNote by any means, but for my

    purposes its great and the wiki capability is very handy.

    Thanks for the recommendation!

    Hi everyone, great comments! I am brand new to Evernote.

    Here is my question. I am a pastor and thus I do a lot of

    public speaking. While I am reading books, I may come

    across several pages of useful material that I will want to use

    later on during prep/research. Currently, I copy the pages (eg.

    #39 written by Matt

    April 14, 2011 - 5:48 pm

    #40 written by Check out Zim

    April 14, 2011 - 8:19 pm

    #41 written by carl

    August 20, 2011 - 5:17 pm

    #42 written by Roger Pettay

    May 26, 2011 - 2:52 pm

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    pages 34-40) staple them and place them in the appropriate

    manila folder. Because it will be neccesary for me to access

    the entire section (eg. pages 34-40 of a book in order) Is there

    any way to scan into Evernote and keep those pages in order

    in say one note (e.g. like the stapled hard copy)? Thanks in

    advance for any and all feedback! Roger

    Hi Roger

    This depends on how you scan the notes. A lot of

    scanner systems output PDF files, which can be

    attached and viewed in Evernote or also kept in a folder

    on your computer. Evernote also indexes these PDF

    files for search within Evernote. The order of the pageswill not be altered or reordered by Evernote.

    -Carl

    This entry was written a while ago when the note-taking

    space had not yet exploded. Today, its quite a scene. We at

    memonic are also a part of this. We loved this original post,

    and would love to see your take on how the main services

    compare now!

    I have re-installed OneNote (2010 version) and the

    latest version of Evernote. I have been collectingupdated comparison notes. Hopefully I will get a

    chance to post a new comparison. Not sure when

    -Carl

    #43 written by carl

    August 20, 2011 - 5:21 pm

    #44 written by keren

    May 31, 2011 - 2:41 am

    #45 written by carl

    August 20, 2011 - 5:30 pm

    #46 written by rosana345

    July 28, 2011 - 9:46 am

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    Somebody has tested this app in evernote?

    http://cllicktoapp.com

    Hi Rosana

    I think you accidentally added an extra letter when

    typing the link. I think you meant to link here:

    http://www.clicktoapp.com/

    Or, more specifically, here:

    http://www.clicktoapp.com/overview-features/evernote/

    I havent tried this app, but it definitely looks

    interesting!

    -Carl

    I started with evernote years back, switched to Onenote for

    for a while, now I am using both: Onenote for Reference

    material while keeping Evernote for the initial part of GTD

    process: collection & actionable stuff. I find that using tags in

    Evenote is much easier for actions & todo lists & the structure

    folder concept in Onenote is more suited for reference

    material.

    Somebody has tested clicktoapp in Evernote:

    http://clicktoapp.com

    OneNote Needs Pegging!

    I dont get how OneNote dont somehow peg images, drawing,

    and text with scrolling. Like if you have a graph youre

    #47 written by carl

    August 20, 2011 - 5:27 pm

    #48 written by Kai

    September 8, 2011 - 6:50 pm

    #49 written by luisabella

    September 22, 2011 - 10:25 pm

    #50 written by Daniel

    September 27, 2011 - 6:29 pm

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    forming, then drawing plots, then drawing lines, and inserting

    text all of those are separate bubbles so its not possible to

    make it one simple image.

    Worse, if you have that graph in the main bod, as you type it

    doesnt move with the text you type above it.

    I dont get how they dont have this right. They have templates

    for different text bubbles on a single page. if you have a text

    bubble above another one and start typing in the above you for

    lets say 50 lines, it just writes over the other text bubble

    instead of pushing it down.

    Its such an asinine oversight.

    I agree the editing features are definitely not as good as

    in some of the other MS Office apps. Thats why in my

    OneNote note taking setup, I try to keep everything in

    one text field without any other floating objects. I

    posted some of those details here and here. Of course,

    this is just for note taking and basic project tracking. If

    you are editing more complex documents, you may

    want to try another tool.

    -Carl

    Hey nice article, I would love to see some updates with the

    current changes to both Evernote and OneNote. Im fighting

    with both of them now, and I would love to read about how

    others have solved this.

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