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Episode217:DoSaunasWork?UnderstandingtheBenefitsWithSunlightenFounderConnieZack


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Child:WelcometomyMommy’spodcast.

ThisepisodeisbroughttoyoubyOrganifiandI’msoexcitedtofinallytellyouaboutthem!Because,here’saconfession…IhaveknownaboutOrganififorareallylongtimeandeventhoughsomanyofmyfriendsandexpertsItrustraveaboutthem,InevertriedtheirstuffuntilrecentlybecauseIthought…firstofall,howcanitactuallybethatgood?Well,Itrieditanditturnsoutthatitisnotonlythatgood,it’sbetterthanIexpected!Organifihasgreenjuice,redjuice(whichisanantioxidantreddrinkandit’sdelicious)andagoldenmilkturmericdrink,alongwithaplant-basedprotein.Everythingtheyhaveiscompletelyorganicandtheyallactuallytastegood,unlikealotofothergreendrinksandproteinpowders.I’veespeciallybeenlovingtheirredjuicelately…especiallyatthistimeofyearforimmunity.Ittastesamazingandithasablendofantioxidantsfromstrawberries,cranberries,blueberries,pomegranatesandtheyalsoaddinbeets,cordycepts,reishi,rhodiolaandalotmore.So,thisparticularblendisformulatedtoincreaseenergy,boostmetabolismandreducefactorsthatleadtoaging.Theirgreenjuiceismintyanddelicious,andInoticedithasalmost8005-starreviews.Youcancheckoutthosetwoproducts,alongwiththeirwholesuiteofproductsandsave20%justbybeingalisteneroftheWellnessMamapodcast.Gotohttp://organifi.com/wellnessmamaandusethecode:WELLNESS20for20%off.

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Katie:Helloandwelcometothe"WellnessMama"podcast.I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com,andI'mherewithmyfriendConnieZack,whoisthefounderofSunlightentoanswerallofyourquestions.Igetalotofquestionsfromyouguysaboutsaunause,andthedifferencesbetweentypesofsaunas,andwhataretheactualbenefitsthatarebackedbyscience.ConnieandherhusbandstartedSunlightenintheirbasementin2002andtodaytheyhavesomeofthebestsaunasintheentireworld.Theydevelop,design,andretailInfraredSaunas.Andthecompanyisuniquepatentedforinfraredtechnologyandmorerecently,thereare3-in-1infraredlighttherapies,whichwe'lltalkaboutbothofthose.They'rereallyrevolutionizingthesaunamarket.Andinthisepisode,likeIsaid,we'regonnadelveintothebenefitsofsaunatherapy,whatthingslikeheatshockproteinsare,andhowwecanallmaximizethebenefitsofSaunause.SoConnie,welcomeandthanksforbeinghere.

Connie:Thankyousomuch,Katie.I'mhappytobehere.


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Katie:I'msoexcitedtojumpinandtotalktoyouaboutthis.Iknowthatyouarereallyanexpertonthistopicandyouhavemanyyearsofexperience.Andsaunauseissomethingthat'sbeenhappeningaroundtheworldformany,manyyears.There'salonghistoricalhistoryofuseandofbenefits,soI'dloveifyoucouldstarttherekindofexplainingthehistoryofsaunas,andthenalsothedifferencebetweenthetraditionalsaunasandnowtheinfraredsaunasthatwehaveaccessto.

Connie:I'dloveto.Yeah,therehasbeenaroundformany,manyyears.AndIwasintroducedtoinfraredtechnologyfrommybrotherwhowaschronicallyill,andhesufferedgreatlyfrommercurytoxicity,andjustheavytoxicburden.Anditwashisdentistwhohaddonesomeresearch,thisis20yearsago,oninfraredandsaid,youknow,there'sthebighugedifferencebetweenjustregularheatandinfrared.Andalotoftheearlyresearch,thiswas20yearsago,hasbeenshownthatifyoucanpenetratethebody,youcanpurifyitnaturallyandgetsomeofitsmercuryandtoxinsoutofyourbody.Andsothat'swhenIwasintroduced.Isawmybrothergofrombeingonhisdeathbedtobeinghealthyasaresultofinfraredtechnology.Andthat'swhenourcompanywasborn.

Katie:Wow.Well,firstofall,let'sestablishwhatisinfrared?Ithinkit'sactuallytechnicallylight,right?Butalsoheat.Canyoukindofexplainwhatinfraredisandhowit'skindofinteractingwiththebody?

Connie:Correct.AndI'llalsoexplainyourfirstquestionalittlebitbetterasfarasthedifferencebetweentraditionalheatandtheinfraredheat.Andwhydon'twestartthere?

Sotraditionalheatishotairandhasalittlebitofinfrared,butmostofitisconvectionalheatthatyoucanfeelintheair.Andsoyou'regettinghotbecausetheairishotandsoyou'llstillsweat,butit'ssurfacesweatandtheheatisnotreallygoingintothebody,it'sjustheatingtheair.Infraredisaspectrumandyoucangoinasdeepasyouwantintothespectrum,becausethat'smyspace,butI'lljusttouchonitlightlyhere.Andyouknow,asdeepasyouwannagoIcantaketheaudience.

Butintheinfraredspectrum,there'sthreedifferentwavelengthsoflight.Thereisafar-infrared,mid-infraredandnear-infrared.Andallthreeoperatedifferentlyandallthreehavedifferenttippingpointsforeffectiveness,whichwecantalkaboutlater.Butspecifically,let'stalkaboutthefarinfraredpiecebecausethat'swhatmybrotherwasintroducedto,andthatwasourfirstexposuretothisspectrumoflightandthemagicalhealingproperties.

Andthefar-infraredpartofthespectrumistheonethatgoesthedeepestintothebody.Andhowitworksisyoubypassalloftheconvectionalheat.ThisiswhatSunlightenspecializesin.Andit'stakingoutthenon-healingheat,theUVraysandallofthatextrastuffthatthesungives,andjustfocusingonalmost100%ofthetippingpointfar-infrared.AndwhenIsaytippingpoint,it'sawavelength,right?Andsoanylevelofenergyhasatippingpointwhereitbecomestransformationalversusjustfar-infrared.Andthat'swhatwehavedoneinallofourproducts.Andthen,ofcourse,wepatentedittoprotectourselvesandourcustomers.


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Andthefarinfraredspecificallyiswhatincreasesthecoretemperature.Itgivesthebodyanaturalfeverwithoutdisease.Thatfever,thatincreaseofcoretemperatureiswhatleadstothehealingbenefitsandleadstothetransformation.Leadsto,formybrothertospecifically,theremovalofthetoxin,andspecificallymercurythatwastrappedinhisbodyforsolongthatwasleadinghimtobesoill.

Katie:That'ssuperfascinating.Itremindsme,lastyear,IhadthechancetostudyinSwitzerlandatabiologicalmedicineclinic,andtheyhaveaprocedurecalledafullbodyhyperthermiawherethey'redoingsaunabuttoanextremedegreeandthey'rehavingsomeone'sheadremoved.SosimilartolikeyourSoloonaunitsothatthebraindoesn'tgettoohot.Andtheyhad,actually,peopleundersupervisionwitharectalthermometerandanIVforhydration.Andthesearepeoplewithbloodinfectionsorsevereheavymetals.Andthepurposeistoraisethecorebodytemperatureorbothorinducingsweat,whichlikeyoumentionedishelpingremovethosethingsfromthebodyaswell,butthey'refindingthatthatincreasingthecorebodytemperaturetoahighdegreeingettingthepersontohaveafeverof103or104canactuallygoalongwaytowardkillingsomeoftheseinfectionsintheblood.

Anditseemslikeadultshavehardertimesactuallygettingahighfever.Kidscangetthemprettyeasily,whichiswonderful.Actually,there'salotofevidenceweshouldnotbebringingdownfeversbecausetheyservesuchabeneficialpurpose.Haveyou,like,seenthatinyourresearchaswellaboutthebenefitsofthebodyactuallybeingthathot?

Connie:Absolutely.Sotwothingsonthat.TotouchonSwitzerland,thatbiologicalclinic,Iwouldbelieveisthesameonethatwe'reworkingwith,Sunlightenisworkingwithandinmanydifferentways.Theyuseourcelllowersunlightandcelllowerthathastheheadout,right?Sotheheadisnotin,butthenthey'realsoaddingontheothertwowavelengths,the3-in-1productaswellthathasthemid-infraredaroundyouaswellasnear-infraredLEDs.They'redoingthataswellbecausethere'sbenefitsofthosetwowavelengthsaddingtothesynergiesoftheformpreddingincreaseinthecore.

So,that'sadifferenttopicbutwhenyousaidthat,Iwasjustthinkingabout,IwasjustrecentlyinBelgium,andwewereworkingwiththatclinicinSwitzerlandandthey'rehavingterrificresultswithourproducts.

So,thesecondasfarasthehyperthermia.Absolutely,wedidwithourSunlightenSoloproduct.Let'ssee.Thatwasprobably,we'relookingatprobably15,16,maybeeven17yearsago.Wedidthatexactstudywitharectalthermometerwithourheatingtechnology,andmeasuredthecoretemperatureover30minuteswiththeSolo.Thatwasbeforeweintroducedourheatedpadthatgoesunderneath.AndIknowthatyouwouldprobablyevengetagreaterincreasewiththat,butwehadthatatthetime,sowejustdiditwiththeSunlightenSoloandweshowedanincreasein3degreesinlessthan30minutes.Andthenwhat'sgreat,Katie,isevenwhentheyweretakenout,thecoretemperaturestayedelevated.Andsoyoucanseethebenefitofhowthewavelengthstayswithyou,anditcontinuestoprovidethathealingbenefitafteryougetout.


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SoDr.RachelWest,again,about13,14yearsago,introducedSunlightentosomeresearchthatshewasdoingonusingourproductsspecificallywithkidswithautism.Andsoshowingthatwhenyouincreasethatcoretemperature,andyoukeepitelevatedand,andlikeyousaid,youletthathappennaturallyandyoudon'ttryandfighttobringitdowntooquickly,thenyoucanseearemovalinharmfultoxins.Andthere's,youknow,alotofresearchshowingthatkidswithautismhavemercuryanddifferenttypesofthingsinsidetheirbody.Andifyoucanremovethatthen,youknow,youcanpotentiallynoticeabenefit.Andshehasreallydonealotofresearchonthecoretemperatureandthehyperthermiabenefitsspecificallywithkids.

AndwhenIhadmychildren,Icompletelysubscribedtothatphilosophyof,youknow,aspainfulasitisasamomtowatchyourkidhaveafever.It'ssopainful.Butknowingthatiftheycanfightitontheirown,that'sthebestthingforthem.Andthenourselvesasadults,ifwecanchangeourbodyandconsistentlyprovidehealingheatthat'sgoingtoincreaseourcoretemperatureandkeepitelevated,thenwecankeepourselvesfromgettingharmfuldiseasesaswellastransformifwe'rehavinganyadverseconditionsaswesitheretoday.

Katie:Absolutely.AndIthinkthere'ssomanyfunthingstounpackthere.ButIthinkifmomsthat'ssuchhelpfulperspective.You'resoright.It'ssohardtoseeyourchildsufferwithafever,andit'ssoeasytowannajustbringthefeverdownandgivethemTylenol.Butthedatawe'reseeingrightnowissuperfascinatingandI'msureyou'veseenittoo,abouthowhighfeversinchildhoodareactuallycorrelatedwithlowerriskofcertaindiseasesandadulthood.Anditseemsthatthere'salmostlikeanimmuneformingorstrengtheningeffect,whichmakessensewhenwelookatafeverasoneofthebody'snaturaldefensemechanismsandnotjustsomethingthatweneedtomakegoaway.

AndsotomakesureI'munderstanding.Sothefar,near,andmid-infrared,theyallareabletopenetratethebody,buttheyaffectcellsindifferentways.So,isthatcorrect?Andhowdeeplycantheypenetratethebody?

Connie:Yeah.So,eachwavelengthpenetratesdifferently.Andsoasaresult,it'saffectingthebodyindifferentpartsandithasdifferentbenefits.Sothefarthatwewerejusttalkingaboutthedeepestingetsthatincreasingcoretemperaturewejusttalkedabout.SotheresultsofHyperthermiawejustdiscussed,youknow,areextensiveandtheyreally,reallycanhelpthebodyrestoreitselftoyouknow,it'shealthystatebyremovingthetoxicelements.Andsomanypeoplehaveconditionsthatreallyarerelatedtotoxicoverload.Andiftheywouldjustremovethoseelements,thentheywould,youknow,purifythebody.

Sothat'sthebeautifulpartoftheSunlightenandthefarinfrared.Andwhatwepatentedisgivingalmost100%oftheperfectamountaswellasfrequencyofthatwavelength.Becauseeachwavelength,Katiehasaspectrum.Sothere'saspectrumofinfrared.Andthenwithfar,mid,andnearthere'saspectrumofthatcategorytoo.Andifyou'renotintherightpartofthespectrum,you'renotgettingthebenefits.Doesthatmakesense?

Katie:Yeah,itdoes.


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Connie:Okay.So,wellthat'sthefar.Sothenthere'sthemid.Samestory.Hastobewithinaparticularfrequency.Andthatwavelengthishotterthanthefar.Thefaristhecoolestofthethree.Themidisalittlebithotterintemperatureanddoesnotgoasdeep.Andthebenefitsspecificallyisforthejointsandthetissues.Andmypersonalfavoritebenefitthatitprovidesisreducinginflammationandleavingthebodyinabetterstateofrecovery,specificallyforpeoplewhowanttoexerciseorpeoplewho'vehadbad,youknow,kneepainorjointpainorbackpain,youknow,thattypeofinflammation.Thefarisn'tgoingtohelpwiththatasmuchasthemidbecauseofthewayitconcentratesonthebody.

Thenthenearisthehottestofthethree.Sohotthatreally,youcan'treceivethetransformationalnear,whichisaround880nanometers.Youcan'treceivethatbyheat,itwouldburnyou.Sowhatwehavedoneiswe'vetakenthatandwehaveconvertedittoinvisibleLEDs.Andtheyareextremelyeffectiveatreducingpainattheverysurface.Soforlikeyourfeetandlikethebackofyourneck,yourspine,likethatpartofthebody.Thatisvery,veryeffective.AndIhavelotsofpersonalstoriesonmyself,whereI'veusedourLEDs.

Andtheotherthingthatisveryeffectivewiththenearinfraredistheskinandtherepairoftheskin.There'slotsofstudiesonwoundhealingaswellas,youknow,transformationwiththecellsasfarasacceleratingthecellturnover,andreducingfinelinesandwrinkles.It'sexcellentatrestoringtheskinandrepairingtheskin.WhenItalkabouttheskinIalsoliketomentionthatthefarisreallygreatformakingtheskinglowbecauseyou'reremovingtheimpuritiesinyourbody.Soit'snicebecausewhenyoucombinethedifferentwavelengthstogether,yougetallofthebenefits,yougetlikethisglowfromtheinsideoutaswellasonthesurface.

Katie:Thatmakessense.Andalso,IfounditfascinatingwhenIwasresearchingthis.Infraredlightobviouslyoccursinnature.Thesearethingsthatwegetfromthesun.Isthatcorrect?

Connie:Correct.Correct.Everybodyneedsinfraredtoexist.Thedifferenceishowthequantitywithineachwavelengthis,wherethemagicstartstohappen.So,youknow,justgeneralinfraredcomesfromthesunbutthenwhenyoubreakitdownonthedifferentwavelengths,andthenyoufilteroutallthenoiseofthenon-healingstuff,andyoujustgivethebeautifulhealingproperties,andyougivethemaximumamountofeachwavelength.That'swherethebeautyandthetransformationhappens.Andthat'swhatSunlightenisknownforandthat'swhatI'mmostpassionateabout,isbringingefficienthealingpropertiestothemarketandleavingtheworldahealthierplace.

Katie:Absolutely.AndIknowthat'sonethingI'veresearchedquiteabitrecentlyisjustobviouslywe'reallareawareoftheriseandallthesemoderndiseasesandchronicdiseases.Andthere'salotoffactorsthatcomeintoplaythere.Ofcourse,withincreasedtoxicityinourdietshavechanged,butwe'realsonotspendingasmuchtimeoutside.Alotofuscan'twithjobsandschoolandwe'renotgettingthatnaturallightthatweneed,andwe'renotgettingexposuretoallthosespectrum.SoIfeellikeintoday'sworldwedohavetobemoreproactivetofaceallthesethingsthatwe'reconstantlybeingbombardedwith.Andsothingslikesaunauseare


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aneasywaytokindofreboundandgetsomeofthosebenefitswithouthavingtospendhoursandhoursoutsideoryouknow,thingsthatwouldbedifficultwithourschedule.

Andwhenitcomestosaunas,obviouslytheytypicallyinducesweat,whichpeoplethinkofasabyproduct.ButinmyresearchatleastIfoundthere'satremendousamountofbenefitstosweatingaswell.Haveyoufoundthataswell?

Connie:Yes,sweatingissomethingthat,itseemsalotoftimespeoplearelike,"Ooh,gross,"youknow,andthentheytendtoshyawayfromit.Whenitisreallycriticalforthebodytobehealthyandyouknow,ifyou'renotactivelydoingsomethingtosweat,youknow,you'llnoticethatyouwillhave,youknow,lessenergyandfeelfatiguedandyouknow,asaresult,notbeashealthy.Iwillsaythough,youknow,anysweatisgood,butthereisabigdifferencebetween,youknow,sweatinginaSunlightensaunaversussweating,youknow,afterexerciseandit'sextrahealthyandextrabeneficialforyoutogetthatdeepcellularincreaseofcoretemperature,sweat.

Andyou'llactuallynotice,Katie,Idon'tknowifyou'venoticedthisonyourownbody,butInoticeonmine,thesweatbeads...LikeIranthismorningforexample,andmysweatistotallydifferentinthemorningwhenIgoforarunthanintheeveningwhenIusemySunlightensauna.Itisoilier,it'slarger,IaccumulatemoresweatincertainpartsofmybodywhenI'musingmySunlightenunitversuswhenI'mjustsweating,youknowbecausetheairishot.AndbotharegoodbutremovingtoxinscomesfromtheSunlightenInfraredversussweating,youknow,fromgoingoutside.

Katie:Yeah,forsure.Ithinkthere'ssomanybenefitsthatgetoverlooked.Likeyousaid,becauseIthinkwethinkofsweatasjustabyproductofexerciseorofheat.Buttherecentresearchisseemingtoshowthat,likeyoumentionedtheoiliness,thatboth,like,oil-basedcompoundsandwater-basedcompoundsandmineralscanallcomeoutoftheskinthroughsweat.Andbecauseofthat,they'refindingwecanactuallypushoutthingslikeBPA,andyoumentionedheavymetals,allkindsofthingsleaveourbodythroughsweat.

Connie:Right,right.Andthere'ssomegreatresearch,recentonesthatI'veseenonmercurybeingremovedorweknowthatfromallofours,fromourSunlightenresearch,butthere'sadditionalonsomeoftheharmfullikeoxycodoneandaluminum,arsenic.Iknowthatthere'sBPAthat'sbeingexcretedinsweatandthatwhenBPAisexcretedinsweat,it'sinhigherconcentrationsviasweatthanitisviaurine.Sothat'sareallyimportantfinding.Andaswellasjusttheoverallfeelingofthebodyafterhavingthatexperience,youfeellighter,moreenergy.Andyes,youknow,it'snicetogotothedoctorandgettheresultsthatyouknowyouhavelessofthetoxinsbutreally,it'sallabouthowyoufeel,youknow,andhavingthatrestorativeeffectof,"Wow,IjustfeelgreatandIhavesomuchenergyandIfeltlighterandmyheadisclear."Imean,that'soneofthethingsInoticeisjustthatremovalofthefogorthemindchatter,justthat,youknow,overwhelmingeffectthatjustlikegenerallifecanhave.Youknow,whenyouconsistentlyusetheSunlightenunit,youfindthatyourheadisclearandyouhavemoreenergyandyoufeel,youknow,likeyoucangotackleanything.


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Katie:Absolutely.AndI'veheardfromsomepeople,maybeyoucansolvethismysteryforme,whoafterstartingsaunausetheirskinitchesforawhile.AndIwonderedifit'sabyproductofthesethingsleavingtheskinorifthere'ssomethingthatpeoplecandowhoareexperiencingthatwhentheystartwithasauna.Anyideawhythat'shappening?

Connie:Youknow,everybodyisdifferent.Imean,ouradvicealways...Whatwefindthatispeopledon'tadequatelyhydratethemselves,andsoalotoftimesliketheirskinmaygetlikeblotchyandyouknow,theymayfindthattheyget,youknow,somekindofgrossstuffremoved.Buttherealwaytohelpthatprocessisthroughadequatehydration.Sothatwouldbemyonetip.ButIknowthat,youknow,I'veworkedwithsomanydoctorsovertheyearsthathavetoldmestoriesaboutlikesmokerswhostoppedsmokingandtheyusedSunlightenproduct,andtheirskinforawhile,youknow,hasthatkindofyellowish-brownishhuetoituntiltheykindofgeteverythingoutoftheirbody.I'veheardstoriesfromalocaldoctorhereaboutfirefighterswhocomeinandtheywereusingourproduct,becauseshehasitinherclinic,andthennoticinglikethesmellintheairjustfromtheremovalofalltheharmfulimpuritiesthatthey'vehadingestedintotheirbody.

Soallofthosethingscancause,youknow,itchinessandrashandeverythingtotheskinbecausethey'recomingoutofthebody.Andthat'sjustpartoftheprocess.LikeIsaid,mytipisreallymakingsurethatyou'readequatelyhydratingbeforeandafterbecausethisistherapy,thisisahealingprocessandyouwannamakesurethatyoudrinkenoughwatertoaidintheprocess.

Katie:GotIt.Thatseemslikeasuchagreatpoint.AndIknowanecdotally,somepeoplesaythatthingslikechlorophyllmighthelpalittlebitorvitaminC.Maybethere'sprobablyapersonalexperimentationaspect,butthatmakessense.Ifthebodyhasalargertoxicload,itmaytakeawhiletoequalizefromthat.

Andwe'vekindofnowgoneintohowthesedifferenttypesofthewavelengthscanpenetratethebody.I'dlovetonowgodeeponthescientifically-backedbenefitsofsaunausebecauseIknowI'veseenstudiesthatsupportitforcardiovascularhealthfor,youmentionedjointhealth,butthere'salotofdifferentstudies.Socanyoutakeusthroughsomeofthedocumentedbenefitsofsaunause?

Connie:Yes,ofcourse.Sothefirstonewhichislikeoneoftheoldeststudiesoutthereistheonewedidonthecoretemperature,sothat'ssignificantwhereweshowwithourproducttoincreasethecoretemperatureinonly30minutesby3degrees,andthenwekeptitelevated.Sothat'sasignificantresult.Andwetalkedaboutwhythat'sbeneficial.AndthenattheUniversityofMissouri,KansasCity,theydidastudywiththeSunlightenSolo.Again,thiswasbeforethepad,soit'seven...Ionlymentionedthatbecauseit'sextraimpressive,becausethepadhasfouradditionalheatingheatersandthiswaswithoutthat.Sowithonlyfiveofourheaters,theyshowedastatisticalsignificantreductioninbloodpressure,whichisstill...EverytimeIsaythat,I'mshockedbecauseI,beforewestartedSunlighten,IwasoveratProcter&GambleandIwasspecializinginthecardiovascularproductsonthepharmaceuticalside,andIknowthatthosecompaniesspendmillionsandmillionsandbillionsofdollarstryingtocomeupwithmedicinetocontrolbloodpressure.Andhere,youknow,weareabletodoitinaneasywayjustbysittinginourproductfor30minutes,whichit'sjustfascinatingtomeevenafteralltheseyears,thatwe'reabletohelptheheartthatmuch.


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Andwealsoknowthroughstudiesthatithelpswithadecreaseinthelining,soithelpstoincreasebloodflowandincreaseoxygenationtothetissues.There'salsoastudythatwasdoneinCanadaonweightlossandwaistcircumferencereduction.Soshowingthatwe'reabletoreducethatbellyfat,andthere'salotofbenefitsseparatelyonwhenyoucanreducethebellyfat,youknow,thatchangesthehormonelevels,andthatmakesyouhavemoreenergyandhelpsalsowithgettingyourbodybacktonormal.

TherewasalsoastudydoneatAuburnUniversitywithourthreeinonetechnologyseveralyearsago.Andthatwasspecificallyrelatingtotheagilityandflexibilityinthejointandtissues,lookingatusingourprogramswiththethreedifferentwavelengthson“HowdoIrecoverthebodyasfastaspossible?”andifI'mnotabletomovewellorifI'mnotasflexibleorifmybodyhurts,youknow,whatcanIdo?Andsotheyshowedveryquicklyafterusingour3-in-1thattheycouldgetthebodybacktoitsnormalstateandincreasedflexibilityanddecreasepainandincreaseagility.

Sothosearesomeofthestudiesthathavebeendonewithourproductandshownasignificant,youknow,result.Weightloss,loweringbloodpressure,musclerecovery,removingtoxins.

Katie:Nice.AndIknowsomethingelsethatI'veseeninthemedicalnewsrecently,isalittlebitmoreresearchaboutheatshockproteins,andhowthey'rebeneficial.Andthey'reslightlymisnamedbecausetheyaren'tjustcausedbyheat,atleastfrommyresearch.Soheatshockproteins,basically,theychaperoneothertypesofproteinsandkindofguardedthoseproteinsfrommisassemblingormutatingorfoldingimproperly.Orinsimplerterms,basically,theyprotectcellularproteinsfromdamageandmutation.

Anditseemsthat,frommyresearchatleast,thingslikeexerciseandsaunause,andironicallyevencoldtherapycanhelpoptimizeheatshockproteins.AndI'mcuriousifyou'vecomeacrossanyofthisintheworkyouguyshavedonewithSunlighten.

Connie:Well,that'sagreatquestion.AndIknowthatwhenwecameoutwiththe3-in-1,whenweoriginallymetDr.OzwhenhehadusontheOprahWinfreyshow,asaresultofthedatawithloweringbloodpressureandincreasingcaloricburn.Andhewasreallyfascinatedwiththeresearchthatwehaddoneonhowwecanhelptoboosttheimmunesystemspecificallywiththemid-infraredwavelengthandthemid-infraredandfar-infraredworkingtogether.AndsoIdofeellikethere'saconnectionbetweentheheatshockproteinsandtheimmunesystemandhelpingthebodyfightdisease,becausehewastalkingaboutacoldandflu,like,inJanuarytoyouknow,knowwhataresomewaystonaturallyandsafelyfightthecoldandfluseason?

AndIdofeelthatpeople,Imean,weworkwithalotofcorporationsthatputourproductsin,andthey,oneofthereasonstheyputourproductsinistokeeptheirassociates,youknow,atworkandtokeepthemhealthy.Andsothey'redefinitelyanecdotal.Wehaven'tdoneastudyspecifically,butIfeellikethere'sdefinitelyaconnectionwithboostingtheimmunesystemandSunlighten'sproductsandstayinghealthy.IknowImyself


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justonpersonal,aswellasmykidsbecausetheycomein,youknow,toowhenI'mtakingasession,andaswellasmyhusband,Imeaneverybody.Wealluseitandweallhaveastrongimmunesystem.

Katie:Yeah.Ithinkthat'sabenefitthatdefinitelycannotbeoverstated,especiallywiththedawnofcoldandfluseasonuponusrightnow.Especiallyinfamilieslike,Ihavesixkidsandoncesomebodygetssick,ifitspreads,thewholefamilyiskindofdownforthecount.

ThispodcastisbroughttoyoubyGenexa-acompanypioneeringover-the-countermedicinewithafulllineofhomeopathicandregularmedicinesthatwork..withouttheharmfuldyes,additivesandsweetenersthatareinmanymedicines.Foundedbytwodadsonamissiontofindbetterproductsfortheirkids,Genexausesapatentedsystemtocreatetheirformulaswithoutharmfuladditivesorpreservatives,whilemaintainingthesameactiveingredients.Plus,theirformulaareallfreeofcommonallergens,whichisreallyimportantintoday’sworld.Oneexampleistheirheartburnfix….Itworkslikemanyover-the-counterproductstoprovidefastreliefforheartburnandindigestionbutwithoutthedyesandpreservativesthatsomeotherproductscontain.IwishI’dhadthiswhenIwaspregnantwithmyfirstchild,butI’msogladproductslikethisarefinallyavailable!Theyalsohaveotherproductsfromeverythingfromsleeptocoldstolegcrampsandeverythinginbetween.Toshoptheirfulllineoforganicandnon-GMOmedicines,gotoGenexa.com/WellnessmamaandusecodeWELLNESSfor20%offyourorder!”

ThisepisodeisbroughttoyoubyOrganifiandI’msoexcitedtofinallytellyouaboutthem!Because,here’saconfession…IhaveknownaboutOrganififorareallylongtimeandeventhoughsomanyofmyfriendsandexpertsItrustraveaboutthem,InevertriedtheirstuffuntilrecentlybecauseIthought…firstofall,howcanitactuallybethatgood?Well,Itrieditanditturnsoutthatitisnotonlythatgood,it’sbetterthanIexpected!Organifihasgreenjuice,redjuice(whichisanantioxidantreddrinkandit’sdelicious)andagoldenmilkturmericdrink,alongwithaplant-basedprotein.Everythingtheyhaveiscompletelyorganicandtheyallactuallytastegood,unlikealotofothergreendrinksandproteinpowders.I’veespeciallybeenlovingtheirredjuicelately…especiallyatthistimeofyearforimmunity.Ittastesamazingandithasablendofantioxidantsfromstrawberries,cranberries,blueberries,pomegranatesandtheyalsoaddinbeets,cordycepts,reishi,rhodiolaandalotmore.So,thisparticularblendisformulatedtoincreaseenergy,boostmetabolismandreducefactorsthatleadtoaging.Theirgreenjuiceismintyanddelicious,andInoticedithasalmost8005-starreviews.Youcancheckoutthosetwoproducts,alongwiththeirwholesuiteofproductsandsave20%justbybeingalisteneroftheWellnessMamapodcast.Gotohttp://organifi.com/wellnessmamaandusethecode:WELLNESS20for20%off.

Katie:Iguessit'ssomewhatcomplimentarytosaunause,anditmaynotbesomethingyou'reasfamiliarwith,butI'mcuriousifyou'vecomeacrossanyoftheresearchofcoldtherapy.Canitbecomplimentarywithheattherapy?Iknowthere'salotofpeopleinterestedinthatrightnow.PeoplelikeWimHoff,talkingaboutthebenefitsofcold.Isthatsomethingthatcanbeusedcomplementarilywithasauna?Ithinkit'scalledcontrasttherapywhenthey'reusedtogether.Haveyouguystriedthatordoyouhaveanyinsights?


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Connie:Idon'thaveanyinsight.ItissomethingthatIhaveheard,andI'veheardhimspecificallyspeakataBulletproofConferenceacoupleofyearsago.ItisnotsomethingthatIamintimatelyfamiliarwithsoIcan'tshare,youknow,anyinsights.Ourinsightsarereallyallaroundthesciencebehindthethreedifferentinfraredwavelengthsandhowtheycanspecificallyworkwiththebody.

Katie:GotIt.Okay.AndIknowanotherquestionthatIgetoftenrelatedtosaunause,especiallytalkingabouttheinfraredspectrumsisrelatedtotheEMFapplications.That'ssomethingI'vedoneresearchon,especiallyjustinthehomesideandthealltheambientEMFsthatwe'reexposedtodaily.I'mcurioushowtheinfraredspectrumsfitintothat,andIknowyouguyshavedonesometestingonthis,soI'dlovetoheartheinsightsyouhaveontheEMFissuewhenitcomestoSaunas.

Connie:Yes.Thisissomethingthat'sveryimportanttous.AndIknowwhenImetyou,youweretalkingaboutyourcommitmentstoEMFresearch,anddoingeverythingyoucantomakesureyouminimizethatinyourhousehold,andIjusthavesomuchrespectforthat.AndhowyoudothatIthinkit'sfantastic.Andthat'salsothesamevisionthatwehaveatSunlighten,evenwhenwestartedlikewaybackinourbasement,wewerebuildingtheseunitswithjustonlythesafestmaterials,andjusttakingeverysinglesteptominimizethatoutput.Andnowwe'vetakenasfaras,youknow,wesendourheatersaway,theygettestedtomakesurethatthereisminimaloutput.Thewaywedoourwiring,everysinglepart,allofourmaterialsandeverythingisnatural.Andwe'reafullservicecommittedwellnesscompany,andwelivebyourmissiontoleave,youknow,theworld,ahealthierplaceandwedon'twanttoemit,youknow,anythingthat'sharmful.

So,allofourproductshavethelowestavailableonthemarket.Andtoensurethattheydo,youknow,we've,wetestthemandtakeeverystep.Andwe'realwayslooking.Imean,ourSignatureandourSolothere'snolevelof...Imean,it'salmostnonexistent,.005.Andsothosearedone.Butanyotherproductsthatwehave,theonesthatarethethreedifferentwavelengths,we'realwaysfindinglittletweakstobringitdown.Evenlikethesmallestamountit'sworthdoingit.Andsowe'reconstantlymakingthoseminoradjustmentstomakeitnonexistent.

Katie:Awesome.AndIthinkthat'sgonnabeanincreasinglyimportantissue,Ifeellike,astheresearchgoeson.AndI'mgladthatyouguysarealreadytacklingthat.Soforpeoplewhoarenewtosaunas.Likewementionedtherecanbesomeskinreactionsifyou'renotusedtoitandyourbodyisgettingridofalotofstuff.I'mcuriousiftherearesomegoodguidelinesforpeoplewhoarejustbeginningwithsaunastomaximizethebenefitsandtolikeworkuptoitslowly.I'mguessinglikeexercise,it'smaybenotsomethingyoujumpintostartingwithanhouradayoranything.

Connie:Right?Yeah.Thenthat'sareallygoodpointandI'msoclosetoit.SometimesIforget.ButwhenIhearyousaythat,itbringsmebacktooneofmyfirstexperienceswhenIwasdoingmySunlightenSolo.IdiditimmediatelyfollowingarunandIwaslikealittlelightheaded.Andso,youknow,mytipisdon'toverdoit.Youknow,Imeanthere'salotofpeoplethatjustwantyouknow,alittlebitisgoodsoalotisgreat,butwhenyou'restarting,youknow,youneedto...It'sintense.Imeanitistherapy,right?It'sahealingwavelength


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that'sgoingtotransformyourbody.It'sofficially,likehowitworksinthebodyispassivecardiovascularconditioning.Sosimilartoactivecardiovascularconditioning,youcanoverdoit.

AndsoIwouldalwaysadvisepeopletostartoff,youknow,with15minutesandthenworkupto40minutes.Andyoucandoit40minutesaday,everyday.Ifyouaredoingactivecardiovascularconditioning,ifyou're,youknow,doingexercise,thenIwouldjustbeawareofhowyourbodyfeelsifyou'redoingbothonthesameday.Andthenifyougetlightheaded,obviously,likedon'tdoit.That'stheonlyriskisjust,youknow,overdoingit.Andalsotheotherthingtoalways,alwaysdoishydrate.AndIcan'temphasizethatenough.ThemorepeopleImeet,themoreItravel.Iamjustcontinuallysurprisedactuallybyjustthelittleamountofwaterthatpeopledrink.Andthentheygetinyouknow,andtheystarttofeelliketheirheadstartstogetdizzy.Andyouneedtotakecareof,ofyourbodyandhydrate.

Andwhenyou'redoingthis,becausethisisintense.Andremember,we're,we'regoingdeepandwe'repullingoutstuff,youknow,fromthebody.Soyouneedtomakesurethatyou'readequatelyhydratingtomake,tomakesureyoufeelgreat.

Katie:GotIt.Andyoumentionedworkingupto40minutes.Istherekindofanyindicationintheresearchontheoptimalamountoftime?Isthatkindofthegoldstandardeventuallyworkinguptothe40minutes?

Connie:Yes,thegoldstandardwouldbe40minutes.Forthefirst10yearsofourcompany,30minuteswasthegoldstandard.Andthemoreresearchwedid,Katie,andthisisallanecdotally,butwealsohaveabusinesshere.InadditiontoSunlighten,wehaveabrickandmortarhealingspacalledSunlightenDaySpa,whereit'sfocusedonnaturalwaysofhealing.Andofcourse,wehaveourSunlightenunits.

Andsoit'sbeen10years.Wehavealot,alotofexperiencewithcustomerfeedback.Andwhatwewerenoticingwasafterthatfirst20minutes,itwaskindoflikethatzone,youknow,thatyougetin,andsoyouwannastayinthatzoneforlongerthan10minutes,whichitwouldbethe30minutes.Andsoifyoucanstayinthatanddoubleitfrom20to40,you'regettingexponentialbenefits.Nodifferentthanexercisewhenyoustarttoworkupto,youknow,ifyou'rewalkingorifyou'rerunningorifyou'relifting,youknow,anything.Youknow,youwannastarttoincrease,especiallywhenyougetinthatzoneofeffectiveness.Andso,40minutesisperfect.

Katie:Isitsomethingthatcanbesafelyincorporateddaily?Canitbeacommondailypracticeforpeoplewhohaveasauna?

Connie:Yes.Yes.


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Katie:Awesome.Soyou'vementionedinpassingseveralofyourdifferentunitsandhowthey'redifferent.Canyoukindoftakeusthroughthedifferenttypesthatyouhave?IknowIhaveyourSoloinmyhouse,whichIlovebecauseit'scompact,buttakeusthroughthedifferentonesandwhattheydo,whichspectrumstheyinclude.

Connie:Yeah.SotheSunlightenSoloisoneofmyalltimefavorites.AndIloveitforsomanyreasons.Oneisexactlywhatyousaid.It'sportable,it'seasy,it'scompact.Youcanputitawayifyouwantto.It'ssoeffectiveandefficient,whichisoneofmyfavoritethings.AndIknowyoursfromtalkingtoyouaboutyourschedulingandhowyoumanageyourhomescheduleandbusinessschedule,whichIlove.SoIlovetheefficiencypart.YougetmorebangforyourbuckwiththeSunlightenSolosystem.Soit'stwoparts.SoyouhavetheSolodoms,whichiswhatallofthe...Likeanystudyyouseethat'soutthereontheInternetwasdonewiththeSunlightenSolo.Anditwasdonewithonlyfiveofourpatentedfar-infraredheaters.Andthenseveralyearsafterthat,weaddedthepadthatyouhavethathasfouradditionalones.Sothatentireunithasnineheatersandagain,you'regettinglike99%effectivenessinacompactspace.

Soit'sveryintenseandextremelyefficientandinmyopinion,moreefficientthansomeofthemodularboxes.EvenourownlikeSignatureone,forexample,becauseyou'resocloseandyou'resurroundingyou,right,allthewayaroundyouandhavetheheatersatthefeet,andtheheatersunderneathyou,andtheheatersoveryou.Yourheadisoutandyou'rebreathingfreshoxygen,andthenyou'resweatingoutallofthetoxinsandyoufeelrestoredafterwards.Ijustlovethatproduct.

Sothat'stheSunlightenSolosystem.AndthenwehavetheSignatureseries,whichhasthehighestamountoffar-infraredonthemarket.SameastheSolo,bothhavethemostamountoffar-infraredavailabletoday,andthat'spatentedsothatyou'reprotectedforthatclaim.AndI'dliketosaysomething,youknow,unlessit'spatentedandprotected.AndtheSignatureisyouknow,inourmodularunitwehavefivedifferentsizesandlotsofdifferentoptions.IlovetheSolosystemmyself,just,youknow,butifyouwannatakeitandexperienceitwithsomebodyelse,aSignatureisagreatoptionforthat.

Wealsohaveacousticresonancetherapy,whichisasoundvibrationtherapythatyoucanaddtotheSignature,andthathelpswiththebrainwavesandithelpstoexpediteyourdetoxificationexperience.That'snew,youdon'thaveitintheSolosystemtoday,youknow,we'restillworkingonthatpartforthefuture.

Andthenthenextproductisour,3-in-1mPulse.Andthathasallthreeoftheinfraredspectrum.Thatwavelengthsthatwetalkedabout,ithasthemostamountoffar,ithasthemostamountofnearinaseparateheater.Andthenithasaseparatenear-infraredLEDsthatweworkedwithsomereallysmartscientiststodevelopwhichwavelengthandthequantityofjewels,andmadesurethatweproducedthemosteffectivenear-infraredonthemarket.


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Soyougetallthreeofthoselabelings,andthenwehaveacontrolpanelthatisasmartcontrolpanel,andit'sworkedwelltodeliversixdifferentprogramssothat,thatwaywhenyou'reinthereandyousay,"Gosh,Ireallywannafocusonmyjointpain,"we'veputtogetheraprogramthatmaximizesreductionofinflammationbasedonscience.Soyoujustpress"PainRelief"anditpullsupthedifferentwavelengths.Youhavepulsesinatdifferentlevels.Youreceivedifferentquantitiesandthatpullsitbackandthenpulsesitagainalltofocusoninflammation.Samething.Wehaveacardioprogram,wehavearelaxationprogram,wehaveaweightlossandananti-ageingprogram.Andthen,ofcourse,thepainrelief.Andthat'sallinthemPulse3-in-1series.Sothere'sthreedifferentoptions.

Andthenforcommercialuse,wehavethisbeautifulcommunityunitthat'shuge,andweuseitwithalotoffirestationsbecauseit'sreallylargeandyoucanhavemultiplepeopleorbusinesses.Butthat'sthelandscapeofallofthedifferentunits.Soreally,youknow,there'sachoiceforeveryone.

AndevenforsomepeopleIknowtheyjustwannagetstarted,youknow,andtheydon'twanna,youknow,spendalotofmoney.WehadtheSolopad,youcanjustbuythatandwehavesomecarbonizedbambootowelsthatalsoemitinfrared,andyoucanlieonthepadandyoucanlikerollyourselfupinourcarbonizedbambootowels,andputthoseoveryouandgetstarted,youknow,receivingatleastfourdifferentheaters,youknow,gettingthewavelengthintoyourbody.Andthat'sbetterthanlikebuyingoneofthose,youknow,aluminiumtentsyouseeoutthereoryouknow,there'sjustsomeproductsthatjustyouknow,marketthemselvesas,asinfraredbutyou'renotreceivingthequantityoffarinfraredthatyouneedtotransformthebody.Soit'sbetterjusttobuytheSolopadandsomecarbonizedbambootowels,thantospendon,youknow,somethingthat'snotgoingtodetoxifyyou.

Katie:That'sagoodpoint.IknowthatyouguystalkaboutyourEMFtestingonthewebsite,butthat'sonethingI'verealizedinthepast.I'vetestedalotofsaunasandalotoftheliketentonesthatyoumentioned,theyactuallytestreally,reallyhighforEMFs.Andthenyou'realsosittinginlikeanaluminumBPAbox,whichisn'tprobablythebestthingifyou'retryingtogetridofthosecompoundsinyourbody.SoIthinkthat'sagoodpoint.

AndwhatIloveaboutthemissionandwhatyouguysdo,especiallywithcateringtohomeuse,isthatthisissomethingthatsomecultureshaveknownforareallylongtime.IknowinFinland,saunauseisbuiltintotheculture.AndIthinklikethreefifthsormoreoftheentirepopulationtheyhaveSaunasattheirhouse.Andprobablyit'soneofthemanyreasonsthatFinland,typically,testsbetterthanusinhealthmetrics.Andeven,liketheirschools,theytestbetterateducationaswell.ButIlovethatyouguysaretryingtomakethisavailableintheU.S.aswell.

Socanyoutalkaboutthewaysthatyouguysareseeingpeoplebeabletoincorporatesaunasintotheirhomeindifferenttypesofsituations?


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Connie:Yes.Imean,sowe'redoingeverythingwecan.Partofour,youknow,missionistoconnect,youknow,customersofSunlightenforlifeanddowhateverittakestomakesurethatourcustomersarelivingahealthylife.Andoneofthewaystodothatis,youknow,byadding,anyofourproductsintotheirhome.Allofourproducts,wehaveeasyassembly.Anditcanbereallyintimidatingespecially,youknow,ifyoulookatourwebsiteandyouseesomeofthemodelsthatlookslike,"Ohmygosh,firstofall,Idon'thavethespace,andthenwherewouldIputit,andthenhowamIgonnaputittogether?Andyouknow,Ilivebymyself,"orwhateverthesituationis.Butallofourproducts,wehaveapatentontheassemblyprocess.It'seasy,it'smagneticanditgoestogetherlike,Icallitadultlegos.Youneedjustlikeputthebasedownandthenthewallsaremagnetizedandputtogetherrealstrongwithreinforcedclipsonthetopandthenarealstrongroof.Andthenwealsohavevideostohelpyouputthemtogether.

Andthen,ofcourse,wetalkedabouttheSunlightenSolosystemthateachdomealoneweighsabout30pounds.Soit'slightweight.It'samuchbetter,youknow,betteroption,likeyousaid,thansomeofthoseportablethingsyouseeontheInternetthatareoutthere.

Andthenonthatnote,IdowannamentionwhenwetalkedaboutEMF,theotherthingthat'sreallyimportantisthematerialsthatweuse.Andyouknow,whenyoutalkaboutyou'reheatingupanenvironment,eventhoughthelevelofheatwe'reusingspecificallyisinthefarinfrared.Andsotheairisn'tgonnabeashotasitwouldbe,you'restillheating,youknow,theair.Andsoyoureallywannamakesureyou'reheatingthematerials,right?

Andtherearesomany.Infact,themajorityofproductsthatareoutthereareimported.Andwedoimportstufftoo,butweownallofoursandsowecontroleverything.Soalotofthematerialshaveplastics.There'salotofoff-gassingitwhenyouturnitonyoucanjustsmell,youknow,thesyntheticpartofthematerials.AndthenyouheatitandIjustcan'tevenimaginehowthatisgonnaimpactyourbody.Imean,it'sgonnagointoyourbodyandthenit'stotallydoingthereverseeffectofwhatyou'retryingtoaccomplish.

Soourmaterials,it'sreallyimportant.Imean,ourintentionsbehindeverysingleelementofourproductiswellness.Andsoourcarbonizedbamboofibersthatweusetocovertheheatersprotecttomakesureit'sanaturalmaterial.Youknow,ourwoodishypoallergenicandfragrance-free.Justeverythingwedoisfocusedwithwellnessintentions.Andsoit'sjustreallyimportantthatIexpressedthatandyourlistenersknowthat.Andiftheyeverhaveanyquestionsaboutanyofthat,theycanobviouslyfeelfreetocontactmedirectly.

Katie:Awesome.Andofcourse,linkswillbeintheshownotesaswellaslinkstodifferentthingsthatwe'vetalkedabout,butwherecanpeoplegotofindoutmoreaboutSunlighten?Andisthereanykindofspecial...I'llmakesuretolinktotheshownotes,butspecialofferoranythingforWellnessMamalisteners?

Connie:thereis.So,asfaraswheretheycango,theycancallus.That'susuallytheeasiestbecausealotoftimespeoplewant,youknow,wewannaknowwhatyou'regoingthrough.Right.Andwe'reinthisforthebigpictureandwe'reinthistomakeadifference.That'swhatdrivesus.Sothat'sourwhy,okay?Sowearejust


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notlikethattransactionalsitewhereit'slike,"Okay,just,youknow,buyyourproductandbeonyourway."Wereallywannaknowwhat'sgoingoninyourlife.Howareyoudoing,howareyoufeeling?Becausewehavesomanydifferentoptions,Katie,wewannamakesurethat,youknow,alotofpeopledon'tmeanallthreewavelengths,right?It'sgreatthatwehavethem,butalotofpeopledon'tneedthat.Soifyoudon'tneedthat,wedon'twantyouto,youknow,itcostsmorebecauseyou'regettingtwoadditional,youknow,wavelengthsandyou'regettingalotofthem.Soifyoudon'tneedit,let'snotdoit.Youknow,ifwecanjustgetyouthepadandsomebamboocarbontowels,we'regonnasaveyoualotofmoneyandwe'rehappytodothat.

Somypointofallofthatissometimesit'sbesttojusttalkoverthephoneversus,youknow,anemailbecausethenyoucangetthetoneandyoucanreallyunderstandsomebody,andwecanguideyouonwhat'sbestforyou.Andsothatourphonenumberhereis877-292-0020.Andthenitshouldpromptyouwhenyoudialthattotalktoaspecialistwhatthatextensionis.Ibelieveoffthetopofmyheadit'seither5or6.Andsoyouwouldcallortheemailis...Youcanwritetomedirectly,[email protected]'mhappytoansweryouremails.Icandirectyoutooneofourspecialistsaswell.

Asfarasforyourlisteners,forWellnessMamaadvocates,wewanttorewardyouforfollowingKatie.She'soneofmyfavorites.Andsowewannagiveyou$200additionalsavingsoffanyofourproducts.Andourgoalisforyoutobeabletohavethemandusethem.Andanythingwecandotohelpyoualongthatway,we'rehappytodo.

Katie:Awesome.Ilovethat.Thankyousomuch.AndafinalquestionI'dlovetoasktowardtheendissomewhatselfishbecauseIamanavidreader.I'mcuriousifthereisabookorbooksthathavereallyimpactedyourlife.Theydon'tnecessarilyhavetobeaboutwhatwe'vetalkedabouttoday,butIjustalwayslovenewbookrecommendations,

Connie:Youknow,mybooksofchoicerightnowarecookbooks.Andoneofthebiggestcookbookthathasimpactedmylife,anditdoeshappentobeinawellnesswayisInaGarten,doyouknowwhosheis?Shewrote"TheBarefootContessa"cookbook.Idon'tknowifyou'refamiliarwiththatcookbook.

Katie:Yeah.

Connie:Yeah.Okay.Sothat.Imean,sincethen,I'vecollectedallofhercookbooksbutreallychangedmyapproachcompletely.Iusedtothinkthat,youknow,youhadtobegourmetandyouknow,arecipehadtobecomplicatedandtherehadtobealltheseingredients.Andyouknow,it'sactuallytheexactreverse,right?Imean,it'slikethefeweringredients,thebetterbecausethenyoureallygettotastewhatyou'reeating,youknow.Andit'sreallychanged...Ifound"TheBarefootContessa"cookbookbeforeIhadmykids,butthenithaschangedmypassiontowardscookingandmyinvolvementofmykidsandcookingand,andhavingtheminthekitchenandshowingthemthat,youknow,whenyou'reusingfreshingredientsandyou'rebuying,youknow,thefreshestthings.Itmakessuchadifferenceinhowtheytaste.Andyouknow,thatnowmykidsarekindofgoingup,theynoticeifwegosomeplacelike,"Mom,thisdoesn'ttastelikeit'sfresh."Like,well.


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Soit'skindofhavingalittlebitofyouknow,justaadverseeffect,but,youknow,they'rebecomingalittlebitmoreparticular,let'sjustsay.AndIlovecookbooksingeneral,soIhavealittlebunchmorethatIlove.Butwhenyouusetheword,impact,andwhenItalkaboutimpact,forme,thatmadeahugeimpactinmyapproach,howIshop,youknow,everythingIchoosetouseinthekitchen.Soyouknow,youalreadyknow,soit'snotsomethingthat'snewbutIlovehealthyeating.Andhealthyeating,youknow,itshouldn'ttastebad,right?Likealotoftimesyouthinkofhealthyeatinglike,oh,youknow,itdoesn'thaveanyflavororit'sjustlikerawvegetablesorwhatever.

Youknow,inreality,itshouldtastegood.AndIthinkthat'ssomethingI'mverypassionateaboutisfoodingeneral,andreallygoodhealthyfoodthattasteslikefood.

Katie:Ilovethat.LikeyouIthinkthatreallyhigh-qualityfoodhasthepowertobesotransformativebothforourbody,fromanutritionalperspective,butalsothattimespentandthecaretakeninpreparingitandespeciallywiththosewelovecanbesotransformativeforusincommunitywithotherpeopleandjustpsychologically,soIthinkbeneficial.AndIlovethatyoubroughtthatup.Idon'tusuallyhearcookbooksonthatrecommendation.Ilovethat.Suchagoodone.

Connie:Oh,thanks.Doyoufeellikewhenyou'retastingsomebody'sfood?Istartedtonoticethedifferencewhenyoufeellikesomebodyputalotofloveintoit,oryoufeellikeitwasmadetomakeit.Doesthatmakesense?Like,IreallyfeellikeInoticeadifferencenow.Andwhensomebodyismakingadinnerandthenmykidswillsaythis.Imean,partofitisI'veraisedthem,youknow,likeIkissthefoodandyouknow,likeI'malittleoverthetopandlike,"Oh,I'mputtingahuginhere,"youknow?ButIreallyfeellikeliterally,whenItastepeople'sfood,there'ssomedisheswhereIfeelithasmorelovethanothers.Howdoyoufeelaboutthat?

Katie:Yeah,absolutely.Ithinkitdoesmakeahugedifferenceandyoucanactuallyliketastethatcareandthattime.Andlikeinwine,Italkaboutthat,likeyoucantastethevineyard,andyoucantastethewinemakerandlikeallthosedifferentaspects,andIthinkitappliestofoodaswell.Youcanreallygetalotfromthefoodfromtheatmosphere.AndIhaveafewfriendswhoareactualchefstoo,andIcantastethatlikepassionandlovetheyhavefortheircraftintheirfood,andhowmuchdifferentitisthanlikeyousaid,somethingjustkindofhastilythrowntogetherwithpackagedfood.It'sabigdifferenceforsure.

Connie:Yeah.Ilovethat.Ilovethatyoucantastethattoo.Thatmakesmehappy.

Katie:Awesome.Well,Connie,IcannotbelieveourhourhasalreadygonebutIreallyappreciateyou.

Connie:Ohmygoodness,ithasgonesofast.


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Katie:Itdid.ButI'msoappreciativeofyouandyourtimeandbeinghere.ThisissuperfunandIknowthatIgetalotofquestionsaboutsaunas,andIlovethatyouIthinktackledallofthemtoday.Sothankyousomuchforyourtime.

Connie:ThankyousomuchforhavingmeonandIlookforwardtoseeingyousometimesoon.Andoneofthesedays,youknow,foryourlisteners,IamgonnareachoutandinterviewKatie.Sostaytunedsothenyoucanlisten,youknow,tothatinterviewbecauseIjustthinksheis,oryouarephenomenalandaninspirationnotonlytomomsbutjusttopeopleingeneral.AndIlovetheworkthatyou'redoing.IwannashareasmuchaboutyourmissionandvisionasIcan.

Katie:Thankyousomuchandthankstoallofyouforlistening,andIhopeyou'lljoinmeonthenextepisodeofthe"WellnessMama"podcast.

Ifyou'reenjoyingtheseinterviews,wouldyoupleasetaketwominutestoleavearatingorreviewoniTunesforme?Doingthishelpsmorepeopletofindthepodcast,whichmeansevenmoremomsandfamiliescouldbenefitfromtheinformation.Ireallyappreciateyourtime,andthanksasalwaysforlistening.

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