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Electronic Health Records User Experience October 5, 2010 Electronic Health Records User Experience October 5, 2010 Tina Buop CIO, Muir Medical Group IPA,., Inc Debra Spindel VP, Nautilus Healthcare Management Group, LLC EHR 2.0 Collaboration

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Electronic Health Records User Experience

October 5, 2010

Electronic Health Records User Experience

October 5, 2010

Tina BuopCIO, Muir Medical Group IPA,., Inc  

Debra SpindelVP, Nautilus Healthcare Management Group, LLC

EHR 2.0  Collaboration

Agenda

• Introduction• Fully Functional EHR• Meaningful Use• Connectivity & HIE• Common Processes• Differences• Lessons Learned• Q& A

2

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Introduction

Two separate large groups (IPAs/MSOs)  implemented Practice Management 

and Electronic Health Record Solutions  without collaboration…..

• Shared Findings• Distinct Differences• Common Lessons Learned

3

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Introduction ‐

MMG

The  Muir Medical Group IPA, Inc. (MMG) is an Independent Practice Association 

located in the San Francisco East Bay. MMG provides services to over 600+ 

Physicians & Mid‐level Providers

• MMG  provides clinical and technical leadership, solutions and support to 

automate the independent practices and to connect them to an integrated 

eCommunity.

• 108 Providers Implemented

• 28 Practices across 50 connected locations

• 15 Specialties

• 165,000 patients in the system & growing

• 1,700 ‐

2,300+ visits per day

• Interfaces: Labs, Imaging Results, Hospital Notes, Transcription, Phone 

Appointment Reminders, Eligibility Checking, ePrescribing, ECG, Spiro, 

Advanced Holter & Stress Treadmill

• Enterprise Chart Community4

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Introduction: Nautilus Healthcare Mgmt Group

Introduction: Nautilus Healthcare Mgmt Group

Physician Services Division• Technology Implementation & Support• Billing & Revenue Cycle Management• Group Practice Management• Accounting/Financial Management• Management Consulting

IPA Management Division

Greater Newport Physicians IPA

Cedars Sinai Foundation IPA

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

• EHR deployed since 2001

• 184 physicians and growing

• 65 practices

• 18 specialties

• Hosts full suite of NextGen applications

• Provides full implementation and on‐going 

technology support for medical group clients

Basic EMR, Fully Functional EHR

May 2010 6

Data from: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.158.4942&rep=rep1&type=pdf

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Fully Functional EHR

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ElectronicHealth Record

HL7

HL7

HOSPITAL or SURGERY CENTER

LABS

IMAGERESULTS

SCANNING

PAYERS

HL7

USB USB

Net‐worked

CONNECTED DEVICES & RESULTS

PHR /PORTAL

PHARMACY

PRINTING

Net‐worked

FAX

EHR

eCommunity

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Achieving Meaningful Use

8

http://healthit.hhs.gov

The MMG eVision

9

HospitalsHospitals

State Information HighwayState Information Highway National Health Information Network (NHIN)National Health Information Network (NHIN)

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Nautilus HIE Connectivity VisionNautilus HIE Connectivity Vision

Hospitals

Community Clinical Portal(ER access, non- EMR physicians)

ReferenceLabs

Nautilus/NextGen

Primary Care Specialist

IPA

Hospitalist

Non-NextGenEHR’s

Common Processes

• Physician Governance / Priority Setting

• Dedicated Clinical personnel (not IT)

• Dedicated IT personnel

• Dedicated Support personnel & 

processes

• Ticket / Issue Leads & tracking capability

• Sales  Implementation  Support

• Various Specialties & Practice Sizes

• “We are very different/more complex”

• Stark / Hospital /IPA Funding 11

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Differences

• Southern California vs. Northern California

• HIE vs. Enterprise Chart for data sharing

• Physician Engagement / Cost Infrastructure

• Service Offerings

– Remote IT Support

– MSO Services

• Accounting• Billing • Practice Management

• Other wrap around services

12

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Implementation Approach

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Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & Clinical

• Sales  Contracting Process

• EPM Implementation 

• EHR Deployment

• Support: IT and Clinical

• Data Sharing/Interoperability

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Data 

Sharing

Lessons Learned –

Sales/Adoption

• Physician decision‐making process is lengthy

• Physicians believe that they operate differently 

for core business processes

• Physicians are very concerned about cost, even 

with subsidized product offerings

• Practices need to contribute and commit for their 

success – “skin in the game”

• Contract is critical: set expectations for timelines, 

commitment, change mgmt and leadership

– Include financial penalties for delays14

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & ClinicalData 

Sharing

Lessons Learned ‐

EPM

EPM – Practice Management and Billing/Collections• Office Inefficiencies become very visible

• Need defined Practice Business Operations

• Demographic conversion –

decision point

• “Certified Billers”

and “Certified Coders”

become more critical 

• We don’t teach billing; we teach billers how to use the system

• Patient Statements not distributed as regularly as some 

practices believe

• Timely filing is critical

• First check after go live between 7‐11 days

• Effectively articulate the benefits of shared master files (i.e.

payers, contracts, referring physicians)

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AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & ClinicalData 

Sharing

MMG ‐

Lessons Learned ‐

EHR

Phased Based Approach to EHR Implementation– Charting, eRx, Scanning & Tasking– Labs & Provider Approvals– Imaging Results & Hospital Notes– Inboxes– Consulting Notes– Reporting– Patient Recalls– Billing Decisions to discontinue paper fee ticket– Practice Optimization & hands on support during go‐live

• It is a journey; not an over‐night destination

• Competition is valued and encouraged

• Inefficiencies become high‐lighted ‐

“chart in trunk”

• Gained efficiencies “can’t be given up”

• Providers are doing more with eCharts 

(more thorough tracking and contra‐indications)

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AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & ClinicalData 

Sharing

Nautilus ‐

Lessons Learned ‐

EHR

• Preparation, planning and training are key

• Workflow assessment and redesign make or break success

• Physicians must practice adequately in advance of go live

• Need effective scanning and abstracting protocols

• Big Bang Go Live Approach :  all providers in a practice 

location go live with most EHR functionality on a given date– Charting, eRx – Labs orders & result signoff– Imaging Results– Messaging– Coding in EHR (no paper fee ticket)

• Hands on support during go live

• Robust follow‐up; refresher training; monitoring

• Small practices are just as challenging as large ones

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AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & ClinicalData 

Sharing

Lessons

Learned ‐

Support

Support – IT & Clinical

• Physicians expect near perfection with EHR support

• Create clear parameters for support issue turnaround time

• Interfaces are expensive

• Regulations encourage community development and less 

island mentality

• Outsource if possible: you will eventually need to be part 

of an eCommunity

• Manage upgrades, patches & template changes

• Plan for server environment changes

• Expect to build custom reports 18

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & ClinicalData 

Sharing

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MMG ‐

Lessons Learned – Data Sharing

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & ClinicalData 

Sharing

Data Sharing and Interoperability

• At MMG, we started with separate practices within our 

NextGen enterprise – no visibility of data 

• In 2009, converted to Enterprise Chart wherein all clinical 

data is available to all physicians in the MMG enterprise

• Extensive education and overcoming physician fears was 

required

• Now, physicians very happy with enhanced access and 

improved continuity of care

• Looming privacy regulations in California are a concern

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Nautilus ‐

Lessons Learned – Data Sharing

AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A

Sales EPM  EHRSupport/

IT & ClinicalData 

Sharing

Data Sharing and Interoperability

• In Nautilus NextGen enterprise, each practice is separate –

shared MPI but no visibility of clinical or financial data 

• Utilize NextGen’s HIE application to facilitate data sharing 

between practices, hospitalists and external entities

– Meds, allergies, chronic dx, histories

– Hospital radiology reports, labs, transcribed documents

– Closed loop referrals:  can attach data electronically and send 

to specialist; get consult note back

• Must be easy for physicians to access data or they won’t

• Patient connectivity – via integrated web portal

Patient Portal Features

Document distribution

‐Test results, orders, patient educ.

Secure email messaging

Broadcast messaging

Appointment reminders/requests

Patient online forms

Medication list and refills

Statement view and online bill pay

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AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A BTW - Patients LOVE this!

Q & A

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AGENDAo Introduction

o Fully Functional

EHR

o Meaningful Use

o Connectivity 

and HIE

o Common 

Processes

o Differences

o Lessons Learned

o Q & A