i.  

         

   

 ***  Rush  Translation  15  September  2013***      

Independent  Investigation  of  Syria  Chemical  Attack  Videos  and  Child  Abductions      EXECUTIVE  SUMMARY    ISTEAMS  is  a  team  of  interdenominational  religious  and  lay  observers  from  communities  and  spiritual  centers  in  and  outside  of  Syria,  as  well  journalists.    At  considerable  risk  in  the  present  terrorist  insurgency,  ISTEAMS  independently  investigated  the  chemical  weapons  attack  in  the  town  of  East  Ghouta  on  August  21,  2013,  as  well  as  the  video  media  purporting  to  document  these  events.    This  report  is  being  produced  for  the  International  Institute  for  Peace,  Justice  and  Human  Rights  (www.ipj.ch)  for  dissemination  to  the  international  community.    The  findings  and  evidence  of  ISTEAMS'  initial  report  strongly  refute  the  claims  by  US-­‐UK-­‐Saudi-­‐Turkish-­‐Israeli  and  other  Western  interventionists.    These  claims  are  largely  based  on  video  evidence  of  this  mass  murder  produced  by  Syrian  insurgents  and  terrorists.    For  this  reason,  a  rush  translation  of  ISTEAMS'  working  document  on  the  Ghouta  massacre  and  related  atrocities  and  child  abductions  in  Latakia,  Syria,  has  been  produced  to  inform  international  public  opinion  and  do  justice  to  the  innocent  victims  of  these  crimes.    The  draft  report  includes  a  Name  List  of  abducted  children  and  women  (pp.  45-­‐50)  who  may  have  been  massacred  by  the  Syrian  insurgents  who  perpetrated  the  Ghouta  outrage.    Finding:    Ghouta  Chemical  Weapons  Massacre  Videos  Preceded  the  Attack  (pp.  4-­‐5)  The  13  videos  purporting  to  show  the  events  in  East  Ghouta  during  the  early  morning  of  August  21  were  complete  and  were  uploaded  to  the  YouTube  social  media  site  in  California,  USA,  in  advance  of  the  earliest  reports  of  the  attack.    Logs  of  activity  on  YouTube  as  well  as  downloads  of  the  material  by  ISTEAMS  members  show  that  the  videos  were  produced  before  the  claimed  chemical  massacre.    

ISTEAMS  –  International  Support  Team    for  Mussalaha  (Consilience)  in  Syria  

 

musalaha2013@hotmail.fr          darantakia@hotmail.com  

 Beirut  

Institut  International  pour  la  Paix,          la  Justice  et  les  Droit  de  l'Homme www.ipj.ch    Geneva  

ii.  

 Finding:    Ghouta  Is  a  Ghost  Town,  the  Population  All  Fled  the  Rebels  (pp.  8-­‐11)  East  Ghouta  is  a  distant  eastern  suburb  (exurb)  of  Damascus  that  was  until  recently  a  farming  community.    The  urban  population  came  mostly  from  Damascus  and  fled  there  as  refugees  to  family  members  when  rebels  seized  the  town.    Ghouta  is  no  longer  a  community  that  includes  women  and  children,  but  rather  an  armed  camp  of  militant  men,  including  many  violent  zealots.    The  social  picture  represented  in  insurgent  videos  is  at  complete  variance  with  the  demographic  facts  and  street  scenes  of  Ghouta  under  occupation  –  there  are  no  women  or  children  to  be  seen  at  all.    Also,  insurgent  medical  responders  appearing  in  videos  revealed  that  large  numbers  of  children  casualties  were  sleeping  dormitory-­‐style  in  a  few  facilities,  where  they  were  all  killed  by  gas  in  the  early  hours  of  August  21st  (page  11).    Even  though  the  children  were  assembled  together  in  Ghouta,  their  names  are  never  given.    Finding:    Major  Medical  Discrepancies  in  Videos  (pp.  12-­‐13)  Medical  personnel  presented  in  the  videos  and  subquent  news  presentations  by  al-­‐Jazeera  differ  starkly  in  their  factual  accounts  of  events,  the  availability  of  medication  and  its  efficacy  in  the  situation,  and  their  personal  safety  while  working  with  chemical  weapons  victims  and  environments.      Finding:    No  Women;  Children  Shown  Sleeping  on  Floors  in  Street  Clothes  (pp.  14-­‐17)  Videos  depicting  the  casualties  show  large  numbers  of  children  supposedly  sleeping  on  floors  and  wearing  day  clothes.    Families  shown  together  also  wear  day  clothes.    Finding:    Staged  and  Fake  Images  (pp.  19-­‐35)  A  sensational  photograph  claimed  as  proof  of  the  attack  actually  shows  casualties  from  an  Egyptian  riot.    Other  images  are  obviously  staged  and  many  use  victims  as  props.    Still  others  appear  to  show  children  dead,  and  then  subsequently  alive.  This  is  unlawful  propaganda  of  the  most  cynical  and  ghoulish  kind.    Finding:    Victims  May  Be  Abducted  Women  and  Children  from  Latakia  (pp.  36-­‐43)  Possibly  most  disturbing,  the  findings  of  this  initial  report  establish  multiple  connections  between  the  Ghouta  massacre  and  a  series  of  terrorist  massacres  and  wholesale  abductions  in  several  towns  in  western  Syria  during  several  days  in  early  August  2013.    These  massacres  occurred  in  the  region  surrounding  the  seaport  of  Latikia.          CONCLUSION        Ghouta  Child  Victims  Were  Abducted  by  Terrorists  from  Latakia  (Name  list,  pp.  45-­‐50)    After  insurgents  murdered  the  men  in  these  communities,  they  organized  mass  abductions  of  the  surviving  women  and  children.  ISTEAMS'  report  includes  evidence  that  links  these  abductions  to  the  ensuing  chemical  attack(s)  that  killed  mainly  women,  children,  and  infants  in  Ghouta,  east  of  Damascus,  on  August  21,  2013.    Women  and  children  who  went  disappeared  after  their  families  were  massacred  in  Latakia  appear  to  be  among  the  Ghouta  victims  shown  in  western  propaganda  videos.    

iii.  

This  preliminary  report  was  prepared  by  ISTEAMS  investigators  and  observers  of  all  faiths  working  inside  and  outside  the  Syrian  Arab  Republic,  as  well  as  independent  European  and  Australian  journalists  supporting  Syrian  sectarian  and  secular  reconciliation  (al-­‐Mussalaha).    General  Co-­‐ordination  of  ISTREAMS  investigation  by  Sister  Agnes  Miriam  de  la  Croix,  St.  James  Monastery  (Greek  Catholic  Rite).    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?veF4GF1ysNmB&feature=share&list=UUdqyOMJox2GUa_9R_ILNbGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=clmLcxQI_do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PGWSL2uK4DY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqVeCVovF58&feature=player_detailpage#t=4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqVeCVovF58&feature=player_detailpage#t=14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evHgj4dnF9k&feature=player_detailpage#t=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBX45HdkyQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yp_Ju6742Z0#t=578

THE ABDUCTED CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENT FROM LATTAKIAH The videos heredown concern the facts of the abduction of tens of Alawites civilians jut prior to the Chemical Attacks. We refer also the list of the victims of the invasion of 11 Alawite villages in Lattakiah the 4th of August 2013, were 150 women and children were abducted by Jobhat Al Nosra. We launch an appeal to the International Community and to Interpol for a warrant of Research and Investigation especially concerning the fate of the children and adolescents.

We have seen in the study of only 3 nominated videos how big have been the manipulation. Everything points out to a FORGED STORY and a FALSE FLAG concerning the alleged Chemical Attacks. We need to know more about the fate of those civilians.

 

Jubhat Al Nosra Spokesperson shows 150 women and children abducted from 11 villages in the Lattakiah mountains claiming that the purpose is to exchange them with some detainees in the

Syrian jails. The footage is produced by the Mujahedeen Press Office http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SPe7tu_3dpE

Women and Children are driven out of the Province of Lattakiah by Jobhat Al Nosra On the right, tens of civilian are abducted in Rabiha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdF6aSnxhDs&feature=player_embedded#t=130

 

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NAME OF THE VICTIMS ‐KILLED, ABDUCTED OR DISAPPEARED,  OF THE INVASION OF 11 ALAWITE 

VILLAGES IN THE MOUNTAINS OF LATTAKIAH BY JOBHAT AL NOSRA THE 4/08/2013    

VILLAGE: ANBATEHN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° children

1 Kamal Mohammad Chehadé 42 Missing2 Rudayna Nasr Chehadé (his wife) 27 Missing3 Mohammad Kamal Chehadé 9 Missing 14 Rand Kamal Chehadé 11 Missing 25 Nasr Kaml Chehadé 7 Missing 36 Jaoudat Mehrez Chehadé 35 Martyr7 Mayyada Hassan Chehadé (his wife) 32 Missing8 Nagham Jaoudat Chehadé 13 Kidnapped 49 Nathalie Jaoudat Chehadé 5 Kidnapped 5

10 Bachar Jaoudat Chehadé 2 Kidnapped 611 Adib Mehrez Chehadé 80 Martyr12 Hajat Ahmad Cheikh Ibrahim Chehadé (his wife) 65 Kidnapped13 Fahimé Mohammad Khalil Chehadé (his 2nd wife) 57 Martyr14 Khitam Adib Chehadé 24 Martyr15 Selim Mehrez Chehadé 70 Missing16 Ramzé el Cheikh (his wife) 58 Kidnapped17 Tamador Selim Chehade2 15 Martyr18 Taymaa Selim Chehadé 19 Kidnapped19 Sajiaa Ali Hassan (femme de Najdat Chehadé) 45 Kidnappée20 Youssef Najdat Chehadé 17 Kidnapped21 Yasmine Najdat Chehadé 10 Martyr22 Chaza Malek Hattab (femme de Ahmad Chehadé) 25 Kidnapped23 Hamza Ahmad Chehadé ( Chaza child) 9 Kidnapped 724 Ali Malek Hattab (Chaza brother) 23 Kidnapped25 aamer Ghassan Yahya 12 Kidnapped 826 Diyaa Maarouf Soueif ( Nassef Chehadé's wife) 38 Kidnapped27 Aala Nazem Chehadé 17 Kidnapped28 Haydar Nazem Chehadé 12 Kidnapped 929 Zein Nazem Chehadé 3 Kidnapped 1030 Mehrez Barakat Chehadé 13 Martyr 1131 Imad Ahmad El Cheikh Ibrahim 49 Missing32 Mona Sleiman Fatima (his wife) 45 Kidnapped33 aksam Imad El Cheikh 26 Missing34 Samara Imad EL Cheikh Ibrahim 21 Kidnapped35 Marah Imad EL Cheikh Ibrahim 18 Kidnapped36 Loutos Imad EL Cheikh Ibrahim 17 Kidnapped37 Inaam Imad EL Cheikh Ibrahim 16 Kidnapped38 Bachar Imad EL Cheikh Ibrahim 13 Kidnapped 1239 Ahmad Imad EL Cheikh Ibrahim 5 Kidnapped 1340 Jaaafar Imad EL Cheikh Ibrahim 8 Kidnapped 1441 Badra Youssef Fatima 85 Martyr

VILLAGE: HANBOUCHIEHN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° child

1 Taher Salamé Mariam 80 Martyr2 Nadra Massoud Mariam (his wife) 70 Kidnapped3 Lamia Mehrez Chehadé( Ahmad Mariam's wife) 60 Martyr4 Intisar Ahmad Mariam 32 Missing5 Narjess Ahmad Mariam 29 Missing6 Asrar Ahmad Mariam 27 Missing7 Jaafar Adam Ismael 2 Missing 158 Yasse Cheeban Mariam 38 Martyr

NAME OF THE VICTIMS ‐KILLED, ABDUCTED OR DISAPPEARED,  OF THE INVASION OF 11 ALAWITE 

VILLAGES IN THE MOUNTAINS OF LATTAKIAH BY JOBHAT AL NOSRA THE 4/08/2013    

9 Salloum Salamé Mariam 50 Martyr

10 Dalale Morched Darwich (his wife) 46 Kidnapped11 Hamza Salloum Mariam 17 Martyr12 Yazan Haydar Haydar 11 Kidnapped 1613 Ibrahim Salamé Mariam 75 Martyr14 Wajiha Chakwahé (his wife) 70 Missing15 Wahib Cheeban Mariam 50 Martyr16 Karima Chakwahi (his wife) 45 Missing17 Aadel Wahib Mariam 30 Martyr18 Faten Wahib Mariam 26 Missing19 Wadad Wahib Mariam 25 Missing20 Wael Wahib Mariam 20 Martyr21 Helene Chakwahi ( Wael Mariam's wife) 26 Kidnapped22 Duaa Wael Mariam baby Kidnapped 1723 Alaa Wael Mariam baby Kidnapped 1824 Refaat Massoud Mariam 75 Martyr25 Khayzaran yassine (his wife) 55 Missing26 Ayman Refaat Mariam 37 Martyr27 Lina Kadro (his wife) 35 Kidnapped28 Ahamad Ayman Mariam baby Kidnapped 1929 Farah Ayman Mariam baby Kidnapped 2030 Marah Ayman Mariam baby Kidnapped 2131 Mohammad Ayman Mariam baby Kidnapped 2232 Dalaa Ayman Mariam baby Kidnapped 2333 Wissam Ali Traybouch( Fayyad Mariam's wife) 35 Martyr34 Ghaydak Fayyad Mariam baby Martyr 2435 Haydar Fayyad Mariam baby Missing 2536 Hala Fayyad Mariam baby Martyr 2637 Marah Fayyad Mariam baby Martyr 2738 Khodor Mazen Traybouche baby Missing 2839 Fadia Hassan Yassine( Baasem Mariam's wife) 30 Martyr40 Houssein Bassem Mariam baby Martyr 2941 Fourat Bassem Mariam baby Martyr 3042 Mayss Bassem Mariam baby Martyr 3143 Charif Mourched Darwich 80 Martyr44 Mounira Salim (his wife) 70 Missing45 Mounzer Charif Darwich 36 Missing46 Hala el Cheikh Ahmad enceinte (his wife) 34 Kidnapped47 Dina Mounzer Darwich baby Missing 3248 Bana Mounzer Darwich baby Missing 3349 Chame Mounzer Darwich baby Missing 3450 Mounif Charif Darwich 50 Martyr51 Dawlat wahid Fodda (his wife) 45 Kidnapped52 Rawan Mounif Darwich 20 Kidnapped53 Barakat Ali Darwich 50 Martyr54 Hassana Abdel Karim Issa (his wife) 45 Kidnapped55 Ali Barakat Darwich baby Kidnapped 3556 Abdel Karim Barakat Darwich baby Kidnapped 3657 Aabir Barakat Darwich baby Kidnapped 3758 Haifa Abdel Karim Issa 30 Martyr59 Ali Morched Darwich 90 Martyr

NAME OF THE VICTIMS ‐KILLED, ABDUCTED OR DISAPPEARED,  OF THE INVASION OF 11 ALAWITE 

VILLAGES IN THE MOUNTAINS OF LATTAKIAH BY JOBHAT AL NOSRA THE 4/08/2013    

60 Manne Cheblé (his wife) 60 Missing61 Mohammad Ali Darwich 30 Missing62 Yazan Ali Darwich 19 Martyr63 Fatmé Ali Darwich 23 Missing64 Rime Housein Mohammad Ali Darwich 20 Missing65 Fadel Chkouhi 80 Martyr66 Wazifa Chkouhi (his wife) 50 Missing67 Afaf Fadel Chkouhi 25 Missing68 Kanana Fadel Chkouhi 27 Missing69 Moustafa Fadel Chkouhi 24 Missing70 Hani Tamer Chkouhi 45 Martyr71 Wisal Naser Chkouh (his wife) 40 Missing72 Tamer Hani Chkouhi 3 Kidnapped73 Taym Hani Chkouhi 1 Kidnapped 3874 Nazira areifo Mere de Hani Chkouhi 90 Kidnapped

VILLAGE: BREMSAN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° child

1 Salman youssef Fatimé Abou Bassam 75 Martyr2 samira Ghalia (his wife) 50 Kidnapped3 Bassem Salman Fatimé 35 Martyr4 Rawda Yassine (his wife) 32 Kidnapped5 Loukman Bassem Fatimé 9 Kidnapped 396 Nibal Bassem Fatimé 8 Kidnapped 407 Sylvia Bassem Fatimé 6 Kidnapped 418 Mohammad Youssef Fatimé 70 Martyr9 Nadi Khalil Fatimé 29 Martyr

10 Bouchra Soukour (his wife) 27 Missing11 Haydar Nadi Fatimé baby Martyr12 Hamza Nadi Fatimé baby Martyr13 Hala Nadi Fatimé baby Martyr14 Darine Hawat baby Missing

VILLAGE: BalloutaN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° child

1 Wafiq Ismael Ibrahim 50 Martyr2 Nouhad Ali Dib (his wife) 47 Missing3 Ghaydak Wafik Ibrahim 10 Missing 424 Mokdad Wafiq Ibrahim 14 Missing 435 Chadi Wafik Ibrahim 28 Missing6 Amanie Wafik Ibrahim 24 Missing7 Amane Wafik Ibrahim 23 Missing8 Nazem Badih Selim 39 Martyr9 Rihab Ahmad El Tazza (his wife) 35 Missing

10 Aalaa Nazem Selim baby Kidnapped 4411 Rima Nazem Selim baby Missing 4512 Racha Nazem Selim baby Missing 4613 Badih Salem Selim 90 Missing14 Jasem Badih Selim 41 Martyr15 Kasser Badih Selim 45 Missing16 Sandass Khanissa 30 Missing17 Limar Ramez Selim baby Missing 4718 Salem ramez Selim baby Missing 4819 Chamess Ramez Selim baby Missing 4920 Sali Ramez Selim baby Missing 5021 Aazab Karim Selim 36 Missing22 Aafraa Diab (his wife) 30 Missing

NAME OF THE VICTIMS ‐KILLED, ABDUCTED OR DISAPPEARED,  OF THE INVASION OF 11 ALAWITE 

VILLAGES IN THE MOUNTAINS OF LATTAKIAH BY JOBHAT AL NOSRA THE 4/08/2013    

23 Tim Aazab Selim baby Missing 5124 Karim Selim Abou Majdat 75 Missing25 Aziza Saleh Dib( his wife) 60 Missing26 Saada Khalil Mansour (his second wife) 70 Missing27 Samir Naadim Selim 55 Martyr28 Basima el Tazza (his wife) 45 Missing29 Haydar Samir Selim Martyr30 Batoul Samir Selim 14 Missing 5231 Safaa Samir Selim Missing32 Razan Samir Selim Missing33 Rahaf Samir Selim Missing34 Nassiba Salem Selim 70 Missing35 wissal Charif Darwich 50 Missing36 Thuraya Dergham Selim37 Awatef Mounif Maarouf 35 Kidnapped38 Lougein Talal Selim 15 Missing 5339 Wajad Talal Selim baby Missing 5440 Jawa Talal Selim baby Missing 5541 Hanine Talal Selim baby Missing 5642 Rima Talal Selim baby Missing 5743 Fawzié Ali Dib 45 Missing44 Houssein Ayman Ibrahim 3 Missing 5845 Zahraa Ayman Ibrahim 8 Missing 5946 Mariam Ayman Ibrahim 5 Missing 6047 Kamel Youssef Ibrahim 90 Missing48 Ismael Youssef Ibrahim 85 Martyr49 Moufida mohammad Ibrahim Missing50 Jamil Salman Yassine Missing51 Nadima Mohammad Selim Missing52 Ghadir Badr Dib 45 Martyr53 Hassna Refaat Mariam 40 Missing54 Amjad Ghadir Dib Missing55 Zeina Ghadir Dib Missing56 Ziad Ghadir Dib Missing57 Khadija Safi Dib Missing58 Chadi Nassr Selim Missing59 Friend of Bachir Dib 70 Missing60 Sakina Bachir Dib 68 Missing61 Nadro Salman Yasine Martyr62 Idia Aziz Yasine Missing63 Moustafa Habib Dib Missing64 Badra Bdour Missing65 Sleiman Ibrahim dib Missing

VILLAGE: BAROUDAN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° child

1 Cheikh Badr El Dine Wahab Ghazal 60 Kidnapped2 Mounir Saleh cheblé Missing3 Wadad Mounir Cheblé Missing4 Chami Ali Darwich Missing5 Safwan Hassan Cheblé Missing6 Issam Hassan Cheblé Martyr7 Wassim Abdallah Cheblé Martyr8 Sleiman Saleh Cheblé Missing9 Lawand Mawhoub Yassine 40 Martyr

10 Mohammad Imad Fatima 16 Martyr

NAME OF THE VICTIMS ‐KILLED, ABDUCTED OR DISAPPEARED,  OF THE INVASION OF 11 ALAWITE 

VILLAGES IN THE MOUNTAINS OF LATTAKIAH BY JOBHAT AL NOSRA THE 4/08/2013    

11 Fadi Youssef Ibrahim Martyr12 Ghassan Mohammad El Koussaybe 50 Missing13 Narjess Ahmad El Koussaybe 48 Missing14 Batoul Ghassan El Koussaybe 15 Missing 6115 Wakar Ghassan El Koussaybe 14 Missing 6216 Sandass Ghassan El Koussaybe 13 Missing 6317 Ahmad Assaad El Koussaybe 75 Missing18 Hamama Khalil El Koussaybe (his wife) 70 Missing19 Fater ahmad El Koussaybe 37 Missing20 Ibrahim ahmad El Koussaybe 35 Missing21 Mohammad Maksoud El Koussaybe Missing22 Yahya Mphammad El Koussaybe Missing23 Aziza el Nawa Missing24 Sleiman El Koussaybe Missing25 Aziza Dib (his wife) Missing26 Youssra Sleiman El Koussaybe Missing27 Ghaleb Sleiman El Koussaybe Missing28 Rouayda Youssef El Koussaybe Missing29 Racha Youssef El Koussaybe Missing30 Ali Assaad El Koussaybe Martyr31 Nader Ali El Koussaybe Martyr32 Adnan Taher Fatima 45 Missing33 Kanana Chkouhi (his wife) 39 Missing34 Zeina Adnan Fatima 6 Missing 6435 Houssein Adnan Fatima 4 Missing 6536 Younes Fatima 70 Missing37 Amira Omran (his wife) 60 Missing38 Dalal Younes Fatima 30 Missing39 Ranim El Jouri 30 Missing40 Leila Mohammad Khalil Missing41 Friend of Youssef Fatima Missing42 Hatem Taysir Cheblé Missing43 Sara Ghazi Baddour Martyr44 Safaa Ghazi Baddour Martyr45 Samila Ibrahim Baddour Missing

VILLAGE: KHARRATAN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° child

1 Abdel Karim Chaaban Chehadé Missing2 Ahmad Chaaban Chehadé Missing3 Bilal Ahmad Chehadé Missing4 amjad Bilal Chehadé Missing5 Hanaa Bilal Chehadé Missing6 Aghid Bilal Chehadé Missing7 Ali Rafik Chehadé Martyr

VILLAGE: OBINEN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° child

1 Jemaa Darwich Missing2 Zahida Darwich Missing3 Kamel Ghalia Missing4 Younes Ghalia Missing5 Fatmé Saleh Missing

VILLAGE: ABOU MALKAN° NAME/FATHER'S NAME/FAMILY NAME AGE SITUATION N° child

1 Mahmoud Ahmad Hamdan Missing

NAME OF THE VICTIMS ‐KILLED, ABDUCTED OR DISAPPEARED,  OF THE INVASION OF 11 ALAWITE 

VILLAGES IN THE MOUNTAINS OF LATTAKIAH BY JOBHAT AL NOSRA THE 4/08/2013    

2 Mohammad Kamel Kadro Martyr3 Assaad Kadro Martyr4 Nayfé Haydar Martyr

65This list is uncomplete. There are more than 400 victims but we need more time NOTE