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Yongho Seok (NEWRACOM)Slide 1

IEEE 802.11ahSub 1 GHz license-exempt operation

Agenda for November 2015Date: 2015-11-12

Name Affiliations Address Phone email Yongho Seok NEWRACOM 9008 Research Drive,

Irvine, 92618 949-237-0641 yongho.seok@newracom

.com

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IEEE 802.11ah Agenda• Call for a secretary• IPR and other relevant policy and procedures• Approve meeting minutes

– September meeting minutes (11-15/1197r0)• Address Sponsor Ballot comments for Draft 5.0

– Comment Spreadsheet (11-15/1292r0)• Motion for draft text• Conference call plan• Timeline review

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• TGah Status Reports– TGah Letter Ballots Status

– TGah Draft Status • TGah Draft 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 passed the WG motion• Can access TGah Draft 5.0 from IEEE store

Submissions (Monday PM2)

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TG/WG BallotIDBallot Close Date

Title BallotType Pool Approve Disapprove Abstain Return %Return %Abstain %Approve Invalid

TGah 203 05 July 2014

IEEE 802.11ah Draft 2.0

Technical 330 204 43 24 274 83.03 8.76 82.59 3

TGah 205 25 October

2014


Recirculation 330 234 27 17 280 84.85 6.07 89.66 2

TGah 207 14 February

2015


Recirculation 330 245 19 18 284 86.06 6.34 92.8 2

TGah 211 14 April 2015


Recirculation 330 248 19 16 285 86.36 5.61 92.88 2

TGah 215 3 October

2015

IEEE 802.11ah Draft 5.0 (Unchanged)

Recirculation 330 262 6 15 285 86.36 5.26 97.76 2

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• TGah Status Reports– TGah Sponsor Ballot Status

• Sponsor Ballot Resolution Committee operation rule– Any voting member of IEEE 802.11 can vote at TGah meetings– TGah can consider motions (e.g. comment resolution, other

changes to the draft, to recirculate) in any of its meetings – including teleconferences

– Intellectual Property (IP) related comment is not discussed in teleconferences

– TGah will meet during IEEE 802.11 F2F meetings


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TG/WG BallotIDBallot Close Date

Title BallotType Pool Approve Disapprove Abstain Return %Return %Abstain %Approve Invalid

TGah 1000 05 November 2015


Technical 176 115 12 11 138 78.40 7.97 90.55 0

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November 2015

• PHY and MAC– Call for volunteer of TGah BRC– Assignee update of SB0 comment spreadsheet (11-15/1292r0,

Alfred and Yongho)– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 1 (11-15/1393r0, Alfred)– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 2 (11-15/1394r0, Alfred)

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Submissions (Tuesday PM2)


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• PHY and MAC– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 3 (11-15/1395r0, Alfred)– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 4 (11-15/1396r0, Alfred)

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Submissions (Thursday AM2)


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• PHY and MAC– SB0-editor_resolutoins_part 5 (11-15/1397r0, Alfred)– SB0-resolution-CID8199-CID 8286 (11-15/1441, Rolf)

• Discussion (including IP related comments) is scheduled on 11:30, when our WG chair is present in a session

– SB0-comment-resolution-part1 (11-15/1439r0, Yongho)

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Submissions (Thursday PM2)

• Submissions made during November F2F meeting and ready for motion on Thursday PM2– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 1 (11-15/1393r0, Alfred)– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 2 (11-15/1394r1, Alfred)– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 3 (11-15/1395r1, Alfred)– SB0-editor_resolutions_part 4 (11-15/1396r1, Alfred)– SB0-editor_resolutoins_part 5 (11-15/1397r1, Alfred)– SB0-resolution-CID8199-CID 8286 (11-15/1441r0, Rolf) – SB0-comment-resolution-part1 (11-15/1439r1, Yongho)


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Task group document motions

• Motion for update to draft text


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Agenda cont.Teleconferences

• Weekly teleconferences between Oct 7th 2015 and Jan 13th 2016– Wednesday 8PM ET for 3 hours


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Timeline

• Review 11/285


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The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee:– Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation– Advise the WG attendees that:

• The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws;

• Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged;

• There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development.

– Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: • That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; • That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s)

and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard

• Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.

– The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance.

– It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual 6.3.5 and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference.

Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board.

Instructions for the WG Chair

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Participants, Patents, and Duty to InformAll participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:

“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents

“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims

“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)

The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group

Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search

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Patent Related LinksAll participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.Patent Policy is stated in these sources:

IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylawshttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manualhttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3

Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html

Slide #2

If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at [email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html

This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt


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Call for Potentially Essential Patents

• If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: – Either speak up now or– Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of

any and all such claims as soon as possible or– Cause an LOA to be submitted


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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with

all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent

claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.

Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.

Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of

customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.

--------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation:

What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.


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Motion 1

• Move to approve minutes of F2F September meeting (11-15/1197r0)

– Move: Eugene Second: Rolf– Discussions:– Motion passed


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Motion 2

• Move to adopt the Comment Resolutions in 11-15/xxxxr0 with the following tabs:– “MAC Ad-hoc” and “PHY Ad-hoc”

– Move: Second:– Discussions:– Yes: No: Abstain: – Motion


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Motion 3

• Move to adopt the comment resolutions of CID xxxx

– Move: Second:– Discussions:– Yes: No: Abstain: – Motion


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Motion 4

• Move to instruct the Editor to generate D5.x of the draft based on motions passed in TGah at the November face-to-face meeting.– Move: Second:– Discussions:– Yes: No: Abstain: – Motion


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Motion 5• Having approved comment resolutions for all of the

comments received from an initial Sponsor Ballot on P802.11ah D5.0

• Instruct the TGah editor to prepare P802.11ah D6.0 incorporating these resolutions and,

• Approve a 15 day Sponsor Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11ah D6.0 be forwarded to RevCom?”

• Moved:• Seconded:• Result: (Yes No Abstain)

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Straw Poll 1

• Do you support the comment resolution for CID 8199 as shown in 11-15/1441r0? – Yes: 5– No: 1 – Abstain: 5


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Straw Poll 2

• Do you support the comment resolution for CID 8286 as shown in 11-15/1441r0? – Yes: 5– No: 2– Abstain: 4


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Motion 1• Move to forward comment CID 8286 received from TGah initial

sponsor ballot to IEEE-SA PatCom for consideration at December 2015 meeting and ask for feedback for resolving that CID?

– CID 8286: Despite the existence of at least one document asserting otherwise, it is not clear whether an acceptable LoA has been submitted by Qualcomm in relation to a long list of standards essential patents previously indicated by Qualcomm with reference to the TGah draft standard. In particular, the letter delivered from Qualcomm counsel to the IEEE 802.11 WG which supposedly provided assurance that an LOA exists to cover the IP in question, does not in fact provide any direct evidence or clear connection between the current and future Qualcomm IP related to the TGah draft and any LOA on file with 802.11. While the letter seems to state that such a connection exists, no evidence of that connection is therein provided, other than a vague statement suggesting that the readers of said letter should simply "trust us". Additionally, the LOA of reference is a blanket LOA and the wording of a blanket LOA appears to apply to all future IP relating to the standard in addition to existing IP. Again, the letter delivered from Qualcomm provides no direct assurance that this aspect of the LOA is or will be satisfied nor is there any way to independtly confirm any of the Qualcomm assertions without visibility to the exact terms of the vaguely referenced but unobservable agreement between Qualcomm and the formerly independent entity CSR. Again, the current state of affairs is one in which effectively, without direct evidence, a representative from Qualcomm has said "trust us".The SASB will take the lack of a clear LOA for the Qualcomm IP into account when determining whether or not to approve a standard. Accordingly, TGah participants should consider alternative technologies to replace the material covered by the Qualcomm patents.

– Move: Matthew Fisher Second: Sean Coffey – Yes: 5 No: 3 Abstain: 3 – Motion Passed


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