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Idisagreewiththis.Youappeartobelookingatthisfromtheviewpointofsomeonewhoisattendingorhasgraduatedfroma"1sttier"school.Ifso,yourviewpointrepresentsaminorityofallinvolved(theschools,otheraspiringstudents,headhunters,andemployers).
Takemyselfasanexample.Iamarecentlymarriedteacher,andamthusstuckinthemetroareaforaconsiderableamountoffuturetime.Ihappentowanttochangecareers.Ifaprogramcosts40k(i.e.Fordham)butgetsmeastartingsalaryof60kwithraisesthatwillaverageouttogreaterthan5%eachyear,thenattendingthelowertierprogramisamuchbetterfinancialdecisionthanstickingaroundasateacher.Inamatterof5yearsIwillhavemoremoneythanifIcontinuedtoteach.
Facedwiththisconclusion,Iammorethanwillingtoattendanon1sttierschoolaslongasIwillreceiveacompetenteducation.OfcourseIwouldprefera1sttier,butIamrealistic.Idonotthinkthat"ifcannotgetintoa
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Ithinkitmakesalotmoresensetofigureout"thefirsttierprograms"
othersarethosewhodonothavegoodplacement.ifsoitdoesnotworththe$$$$$$.sosimplyavoidem.noneedtolearnmoreaboutthem.ifcannotgetintoafirsttier,dosomethingelsemaybeisabetteridea.thisissimilartoMBAs.anything2ndtierorlowerhasmuchlowervaluethanthefirsttier.
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firsttier,dosomethingelse,"isagoodidea.
Unfortunately,thereishardlyanyinformationconcerningnon1sttierprogramsotherthanthatfoundontheprogram'swebsite(somewhichhasbeenshowntobe,attheleast,verymisleading).
It'sgreattoknowthegoodthingsaboutprograms.Itisalsogreattoknowthebad.Thisway,Icanavoidmakingahorriblemistake.
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Iagreewiththegeneralthrustofyourresponsebutthereareacoupleofissuesherethatneedclarification.Thefirstisthatgarbageprogramsmaybeorientingtheirstudentstojobstheyhavenorealisticchanceofsnaggingquantjobsatbigfirms.Theskillsetrequiredforthosejobsisdifferenttothoserequiredforhumblerpositions.Iftheyfillyouupwithstochasticcalc,MonteCarlo,etc.,you'rebeingpreparedforaquantrolewhichyoumaynotgetbecauseyourschoolhasabadreporyouhaven'tbeenproperlytrainedortherearesimplytoomanyapplicantsforalimitednumberofjobsbutyoucan'tapplyforMBAtypejobsbecauseyouhaven'treceivedagoodoverallfinanceeducation(IknowMFEtypeswhocan'treadfinancialstatements,thoughthat'sabasicskill).Relatedtomypreviouspoint,theMFEhasyettocatchon(butprobablywillinthefullnessoftime)asacompetitortotheMBAnotjustinIBs,hedgefunds,andfinancialboutiques,butacrossAmericanbusinessasawhole,astheyunderstandtheneedformorequantorientedpeoplethanwhatMBAprogramsmaybechurningout.Andsecondtierschoolswillhavetolearnhowtocatertothisgrowingmarketbyprovidingpeoplewithamixofquant,computing,andbasicfinancialskills.Thishasyettobedone.Andinmyhumbleopinion,there'salatentmarketforthis.
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Idisagreewiththis.Youappeartobelookingatthisfromtheviewpointofsomeonewhoisattendingorhasgraduatedfroma"1sttier"school.Ifso,yourviewpointrepresentsaminorityofallinvolved(theschools,otheraspiringstudents,headhunters,andemployers).
Takemyselfasanexample.Iamarecentlymarriedteacher,andamthusstuckinthemetroareaforaconsiderableamountoffuturetime.Ihappentowanttochangecareers.Ifaprogramcosts40k(i.e.Fordham)butgetsmeastartingsalaryof60kwithraisesthatwillaverageouttogreaterthan5%eachyear,thenattendingthelowertierprogramisamuchbetterfinancialdecisionthanstickingaroundasaClicktoexpand...
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Ifaprogramcosts40k(i.e.Fordham)butgetsmeastartingsalaryof60kwithraisesthatwillaverageouttogreaterthan5%eachyear,thenattendingthelowertierprogramisamuchbetterfinancialdecisionthanstickingaroundasateacher.
Thequestioniswhetheryouwillgetthisjob.Yesofcoursemanyjobsgotononfirsttier(whateverthatmeans),butthatisnotguaranteed,andyou're100%rightthatinformationonthelessbrandedschoolsissparseandunreliable.AsaHHIdothiscrapforaliving,andIstruggletogetareliableview,someonejustgooglingisgoingtohaveithard.$40Konateachingsalaryisabiglumpofcashand12yearsisserioustimesoyouhavemysympathy.FordhamisthefirstprogrammewhereI'vereceivedinformationthattheyareactuallylying,butchoosinganythingbasedsolelyuponbrochuresisnevergoingtoworkoutwell.Theyaresalespitchesforhighpricedproducts.ARolexaddoesnotsay"Ourwatchesareprettygood,butnotforyouifyouwantadigitaldisplay,orareallergictothealloyweuse,alsosomepeoplefindthemabitthick".Theyhavesomesportsdudeimplyingthatifyouwearone,youwillbemistakenforTigerWoodsandDavidBeckham.FordhamusesDescartesandJamesJoyce.Sameidea.
TheotherproblemforbothmeasaHH,andpeopletryingtomakegoodchoices,isthatasonemoves"downtier",thenumberofprogramsgoesuprapidly.TherearesomeprogrammesthatIliterallyhavenodataatall.
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ThatisaseriousmisunderstandingofOxford'sadmissionsprocess.Oxford'sadmissiontutorsareextremelyinterestedinmarks.ECs,leadershipandpersonalqualitiesarecompletelyirrelevanttotheprocess(unlessyourECisthatyouwereontheInternationalMathsOlympiadteam).AstheparentofonestudentatOxford,andanotherwhoisapplyingtoOxfordandtheIvies(asasafetysinceOxfordissoferociouslyhardtogetinto),IcanassureyouthatOxfordarefarmoreobsessedbyacademicexcellencethantheIvies.
AmericanswhoapplytoOxfordareexpectedtohaveATLEASTmid700s
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ThusOxford,forexample,basesitsadmissionprimarilyonaninterview.Ipersonallyknowofcaseswherethey'vemadeoffersaskingforonlytwo"E"gradesatGCE"A"levels.
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inall3partsoftheSATs(ie:scoreof1500CR+Mor2250CR+M+W),plus3SATSubjectstestsinthehigh700s,plus4APswithascoreof5each.Thisisjustforstarters.Inaddition,theresultsofthecoursespecificstandardisedentrancetestsrunbyOxfordareextremelyimportant.TheseincludetheLNAT,HATandtheSTEPforlaw,historyandmathematicsrespectively.InthecaseofUKapplicants,theylookatmarksstartingfromtheyear10GCSEgrade,the"predicted"Alevels(sincethestudentsapplybeforetheyhavetheirfinalAlevelresults).ThepredictedAlevelscoreneedstobeatleastAAAforthecandidatetoevenbeconsidered.AAAAAiscommonandAAAAAAAisnotunknown
IFyouscoreextremelywellontheacademicsections,youarecalledtoaninterviewthatistechnical/brainteaserbased.Ifyoudowellattheinterview,youareplacedonashortlistofcandidateswhoarecomptetingforthelimitedplacesineachsubject.Ifyouareoneofthebest,oncemarksandtheinterviewareconsidered,youareofferedaconditionalacceptancewhichisusuallybasedonyouachievingaAAAontheAlevels.Ifyoufailtomeettheconditionalscore,youdontgetin.
Iftheadmissionstutors(ie:theactualprofessorswhoteachyouthesubjectwhenyouarrivethere)thinkthatyouareamazinglybrilliant,theymay(veryrarely)offeryouaEEasaconditionofacceptance.Thisismerelymeanttosignalthattheyreally,reallywantyouandthinkthatyouarenearlygeniuslevel.ThekidswhoareofferedEE,normallygetAAAAsincetheyareusuallythemostacademicallyproficientoftheentireapplicantcohort.
Realistically,unlessyouareatleastatthe98thpercentilelevel,applyingtoOxfordisawasteoftime.Infact,theiradmissionwebsiteisquiteopenaboutthis,sayingthattheyarelookingforapplicationsfrompeopleinthetop2%orbetteroftheircohort.
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"FordhamusesDescartesandJamesJoyce."
IfailtospottheconnectionbetweenFordhamandthesetwofinegents.AFAIK,DescarteswasafrenchmanandJoyce,althoughborninIreland,livedalloverEurope(includingFrance).
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WhichprogramshouldIchoose?
Iamaninternationalstudent.IhavegotadmissionfromMSCF@CMU,MSFM@UChicago,MFE@UMich,andpotentiallyfromMFE@Columbia
Cananyonegivesomecommentsandperspectivesontheseprograms?Especiallyregardingjobopportunitiesforinternationalstudentsintheseprograms,andalsootherimportantaspects.Thankyouverymuch!
Feng,3/5/08
Ofthefour,CMUhasbeenupfrontwithitsinternshipandplacementdatawhiletheother3providesnothing.WordsIheardisthatMFE@Columbiaisreallybadwithitsplacementthisyear.Only15ofthe67orsograduateshasfoundjobsduetoitslargeclasssize,terriblemarketcondition,foulweather,badfengshui,etc...UMichisabigschoolbutnotexactlyatthecenterofafinancialcenter.UChicago,Ihavenodatapointtosayanythingeitherway.
IfIwereyou,IwouldcallupUChicago,askabouttheircurrentplacementsceneandthenmakeachoicebetweenCMUandUChicago.Oneisexpensivewithgoodplacementandlocation.Theotherislessexpensiveandpotentiallygoodplacementandsecondbestlocation.
Talktotheheadhuntersaroundhere(Dominic,ToddFahey,Eric,etc).TheyknowthemarketbetterthanIdo.
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YouarenotaloneinnotseeinghowFordhamcanclaimcreditforthesepeople.AsIsay,itslikethewayRolexwouldlikeyoutobelievethata$10Kwatchwillmakeyouagreatsportsman.Fordhamgoesfurther,andtoquotetheirwebsite:AtFordham,youwillexperiencethesameJesuitapproachtoeducationthathaschallengedsome
oftheworld'sgreatestthinkersformorethan400years.JesuiteducatednotableshaveincludedDescartes,
Molire,AlfredHitchcock,Sting,JamesJoyce,DeeDeeMyers,andCaptainKangaroo.
DescartesandMoliereareFrenchwithnoconnectiontoFordhamwhichdidnotexistatthetime.AlfredHitchcock'sconnectiontoFordhamisthatforawhileheworkedonthesamecontinent,anditispossiblethatheflew
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overitonce.AsithappensI'msittingnearwherehewaseducated,inEngland,thousandsofmilesfromFordham.StingisaBuddhist,educatedinEngland,notsurewhatthathastodowithapromotingaUSJesuitcollege.DeeDeeMyershasamuchcloserconnectiontoFordhamthananyoftheothers,sinceshewasactuallyeducatedinAmerica,albeitinacollegeasfarawayaspossiblefromFordhamasonecanbeinthelower48states.
JamesJoycewasIrish,againwithnoconnection.HedidhowevergetsomeJesuiteducation(alittlemorethanme),howeverhewaskickedoutasachildbecausehisparentscouldnotaffordthefees.FeesareofcourseasorepointwithFordhamsincethey'veagreedtoreimbursestudentsafterrunningastudentloanscam,aftercriminalinvestigation.
Idon'tknowwhat'sgoingonatFordham,anduntilsomeonecomplainedtome,Ididn'treallycare,butitdoesnotlookgood.
DominiConnor,3/5/08
Thankyouverymuchforyouradvice,Andy.IwillcallUChicago
IknowthatMSCF@CMUhasverygoodreputationinthestreet.Yetmanyotherfactorsmakesmefeelthatit'snotperfect.Iknowthere'snoreasontoaskforperfectnessatanytime,butIthinkyoucanunderstandthisbecauseIamgoingtopayalargeamountofmoneyforthat.
ThefirstreasonformetovacilateistheoverallreputationforthenameofCMU.OutsideUSA,almostnoonehavehearedofit.(SinceIamacomputermajorstudent,IknowCMUwellthough)IthinkthiswillhavesomelongtermeffectifsomedayIamgettingbacktoChina.
IappliedtoPittsburgcampusofCMU,soregardingthelocationIthinkUChicagoisbetter.
ThoughthedirectorofMSCF@CMUtoldmethatplacementoflastclasswas"muchbetterthantheyhadexpected",Ialsoheardthatonly1studentinthisyear'sNYclasshasgotjobofferinNY,manyAsianstudentshavetogetbacktoHongKong(Icannotbesureabouttheaccuracyofthisinformation).AlsoacurrentstudentatCMU'sprogramtoldmethatit'snotagoodtimetogotoUSforaMFEprogram.SoIamkindofworriedaboutthejobmarket.
ItseemsthattherehavealwaysbeenalotofdisputesoverColumbia'sMFE
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program.DoyouknowthatthebadplacementrecordofColumbiaisonlyforthisyear,orithasneverperformedverywellinthepast?AtleastplacementrecordofCMUthisyearisalsomuchworsethanthoseinpastyears,thoughIhavenosolidstatisticsyet.
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israelrtsaid:
Idon'tdisputetherestofyourpostsohavesnippeditout.WhatI'veunderlinedaboveistheonlypointI''mtryingtomake:I'mnotawareofanysuchproceduresamongtheUSIvies.I'mawareoftwopeoplewhogotintoOxfordonthebasisofhavingtogetonlyEE.Inbothcases,ifmemoryserves,theygotAAAA.ThequestioniswhyweretheygivenEEoffersinsteadofAAAA.Iarguebecausetheadmissiontutorswerecognisantthatmathematicallytalentedyoungstersmightnotperformthatwellinstandardtests(suchas"A"level).Andhencethatresultsofsuchtestsmightnotbeareliable"filter."
Inpassing,Ialsohadafriendwho*only*achievedAAA,didn'tdotoowellatinterview,butsincehehadalreadydoneayearatBirkbeck(LondonU),wasadmitted.Butthisisgoingbacktwentyyears.AndOxford'sadmissionprocedureshavepossiblybecomemorestandardisedsincethen.YetIwonder.TherearerecordnumbersofBritishyoungstersachievingthehighestlettergradeat"A"levels,andthere'sagrowingrecognitionthattheexamnolongerservesitpurposeofdistinguishingthewheatfromthechaff.
Withregardtoforeignapplicants,theydoubtlessusemorestringentandexplicitcriteria.AsIseemtorecall,CambridgetherealjewelinthecrownofscientificeducationintheUKdoesmakeoffersbasedon"A"levelperformanceusuallyAAAA,Ithink(andsomeoftheirentrantsachieveAAAAA).
Postscript:You'remakingadmissiontoOxfordouttobemoreintimidatingthanitreallyis,thoughthefiguresyoucitecannotbearguedwith.Ifyouhaverealmathematicaltalent,eitherOxfordorCambridgewilladmityouasamathundergrad,asthat'sallthey'rereallylookingfor.UnliketheUS
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Iftheadmissionstutors(ie:theactualprofessorswhoteachyouthesubjectwhenyouarrivethere)thinkthatyouareamazinglybrilliant,theymay(veryrarely)offeryouaEEasaconditionofacceptance.Thisismerelymeanttosignalthattheyreally,reallywantyouandthinkthatyouarenearlygeniuslevel.ThekidswhoareofferedEE,normallygetAAAAsincetheyareusuallythemostacademicallyproficientoftheentireapplicantcohort.
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Ivies,whoseemtohavemovinggoalposts,andseldommakeexplicitwhatmixofqualitiesthey'relookingfor(andinwhichacademicpotentialseemstobeonlyoneingredient).
bigbadwolf,3/5/08
(OFFTOPIC)Pardonmyignorance,butwhatisthisA,AA,AAA,AAAAAbusiness?MyexperienceisverylimitedsinceIcamefromCuba.IonlyknowtheCubanandtheAmericansystem...andBTW,thecubansystemisextremelysimplebutveryefficient.Yougetintocollege/universitybaseonatest.Ifyoudon'tdowellonit,toughluck.Harshbutitworkssomehow....andafteryouarein,itissurvivalofthefittestbecausetheprofessorsmakeyourlifealivinghellforthefirstcoupleofyearsto"filter"peopleout...Ah,ifyoufailed,youareout,plainandsimple...atanylevel.
alain,3/5/08
ContrasttheOxfordthingwiththeIndiansystem(likeCuba).Forentrancetoanyschool..beitforengineeringormedicine..thereareexamswhichareheldonceayear.ForIndianInstitutesofTechnologyortheIndianInstitutesofManagement,approx2.5lacstudentsappearfor2000oddseats.Ifyoumakethatexam,youareinelseyoucan'tdoanythingevenifyouarethesonofthePresident.So,you'llseealotofstudentstoppingtheirClass12thexambutcomingacropperintheentranceexaminations.Ofcoursetherearebothprosandconstoit...thereisnotaniotaofnepotismbutthenagainonlyoneexamdecidesyourfurtureandifyouhaveonebadday,youcannotmakeit.Formedicinestudentsit'seventougherwherefor25oddseatsinAIIMS(AllIndiaInst.ofMedicalSciences)over2lacstudentsappear.
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IfyoucouldalsopostyourfindingabouttheUChicagoplacementrateandyourdiscussionswithotheruniversities,Iwouldappreciateit.Thanksinadvance!
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alainsaid:
"A"meansoneAgrade(e.g.mathematics)atGCSEadvancedlevel"AA"meanstwoAgrades(e.g.mathandphysics)"AAAAA"meansfiveAgrades(e.g.math,furthermath,physics,chemistry,biology).SinceEnglishdegreestypicallyconcentrateononesubject(e.g.math,physics,orbiology),Idon'tseethelogicoftakingsomanysubjects.
bigbadwolf,3/5/08
Well,Iamverygladtosharetheinformation.
FromwhomItalkedtoatUChicago(someoneintheadmissionoffice),theirlastyear'splacementratewasnear100%.Andaccordingtoherwords,thisyear'splacementseemsevenbetterthanlastyear.MostjoboffersarewithinUS(thisiswhatIconcernbecauseIamaninternationalstudent).Theyhavealsogot2professorsnowinchargeoftheirstudent'scareerservice.Theywillinviteemployerstotheschool.Theydonothavegraduatesfirstyearsalarystatistics.
That'snearlyallIgotfromthephonecall.
Feng,3/5/08
IhaveahighregardforChicago'sproactiveworkinhelpingtheirstudentsfindjobs.Can'thelpwithplacementstatistics,sinceofcoursethisisnotsomethingheadhunterssee.
OnthesubjectofreturningtoChina,myfeelingisthatCMU&Chicagohavethebeterinternationalvisibility,thoughIcannotbe100%aboutChina.
Butwhatwillbemoreimportantisthebrandofyouremployers,especiallyifyouareuncertainaboutwhenyouwillreturn.Unlessafirmisbiginternationally,youwillfindthatit'sbranddropshardonceyougoforjobsoutsidetheUSA.
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(OFFTOPIC)Pardonmyignorance,butwhatisthisA,AA,AAA,AAAAAbusiness?
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ButstillCMU'scareerserviceisstronger?
DominiConnorsaid:
Feng,3/6/08
Internationalqualificationsareanissueatmasterslevel.Thevastmajorityofpeopledotheirfirstdegreeintheirhomecountry,andit'squiteclearfromwhereIsitthatthereisawidevarietyofoptimalityoftheselectionprocesses.
ButthereisnorealstandardforwhataMFEprogramwillaccept,andthequalityoffirstdegreesvariesglobally,asdoesthelevelofcorruptionintheprocess.IndiahasdoneafirstratejobinmakingitsIITdegreesaninternationallyvaluedstandard.ChinesestudentsarefacedwiththeproblemthatsomanyofthepeopleinterviewingthemhavepreviouslymetROCgraduateswhoclearlyhadtheirdegreeboughtforthembytheirparents,orsomeotheruncleanmeans.WenotethatanincreasingnumberHKstudentsoftengotosomepainstopointoutthatnoneoftheirqualificationscomefromthePRC.
FordhammaybetheworstcaseintheWestofmoneygoingtotheheadsofpeoplerunningfinanceprogrammes,butitisnoalone.Wegetfeedbackofcourseswhere50%dropoutaftertheyhavepaidtheirmoney.It'shardtoconfirmthisexactly,sincenoMFEprogrammepublishesitsdropoutrate,andthepeoplewhoenduptalkingtoP&Darethosewhogotouttheotherside,sooursampleishopelesslybiased.
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Sorrytobringthisup,butIthinkyouareunawareabouttheUChicagoprogrambeingextendedtoSingapore.Informationisstilltricklingin.Iam
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IhaveahighregardforChicago'sproactiveworkinhelpingtheirstudentsfindjobs.Can'thelpwithplacementstatistics,sinceofcoursethisisnotsomethingheadhunterssee.
OnthesubjectofreturningtoChina,myfeelingisthatCMU&Chicagohavethebeterinternationalvisibility,thoughIcannotbe100%aboutChina.
Butwhatwillbemoreimportantisthebrandofyouremployers,especiallyifyouareuncertainaboutwhenyouwillreturn.Unlessafirmisbiginternationally,youwillfindthatit'sbranddropshardonceyougoforjobsoutsidetheUSA.
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tryingtogatherasmuchinformationasIcan.
SingaporeProgramhttp://finmath.uchicago.edu/new/msfm/news/press_02508.php
Theuniversityconductedasurveyacoupleofweeksago
MyimpressionisthattheuniversitywillsoonhavesomesortofcareercenterforfocusingonopportunitiesinSouthEastAsiaandinSouthAsia.Italsowantstoattractcandidatestothenewprogramlocation.
Maybeinayearorso,theSingaporeprogramwouldawholelotofopportunitiestoofferinthatregion.
bobbychopra,3/6/08
SadlyIhaveyettotalkwithanalumnusoftheIITStuartprogramme.Butthedescriptionlooksgood.IthinkitisuniqueamongstfinanceprogrammesinthatitmayrequireyoutodoabasicC++coursebeforeyoustart.ManyprogrammeslikeFordhamclaimtheycanturnoutskilledMFEswherenoC++happensatallTheysaytheyuseAnsiC++,whichisgood,butelsewhereIhaveheardtheyuseuseC++/CLIwhichI'mlesshappyabout,simplybecauseitisnotC++,andwillcausetheirstudentstofailtoanswermanyinterviewquestions.AlsoC++/CLIisalmostunknowninprofessionalfinance,somuchsothatinterviewerswillaskC++questionsandbedisappointedbytheblanklooks.
TheyalsorequirestudentstodoVB.NEtwhichismorethanalittlebitodd,andmoreMScentricthanishealthy.ButmygripewiththatismostlythataquantneedsmoremathsthanheneedsVB.NET.It'sextremelyhardtotellsimplyfromthecourseoutlinewhetherthemathscontentisadvancedorrelevant."ComputationalFinanceIII"Isuspectismoreadvancedthan"ComputationalFinanceII",butthat'sasfarasitgoes.
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IfyouwouldconsiderSingaporeasyourstudylocation,wewouldliketoknowthedecidingfactors....(chooseallthatapply)a)ChoosingSingaporeallowsmetocontinueworkingandstudyparttimeb)ChoosingSingaporewillallowmetostudywithlessfinancialburdenc)Singaporeisclosertomyhomeandfamilyd)ChoosingSingaporewillprovidemewiththeopportunitytoexploreadifferentcultureandnewfinancialnetworkse)Other(pleaseexplain)
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