developer vs. designer

Designer vs

developer the eternal struggle of ego tripping

søndag den 6. februar 2011

@mortendk


respect!

i love the drupal

developerS!søndag den 6. februar 2011

“Designer”Those who work with the

frontend & wanna have it to look epic


DeveloperThose who work with the

functionality & wanna have it to work epic


brussels 5 years ago:

• “We are tired of designers coming and telling us that

drupal looks like shit” - 3:00 am friday DrupalCon Brussels


fugly


fugly

• Designer says “this looks ugly“


fugly

• Designer says “this looks ugly“

• Developer hears “My code is ugly”


code you can count on



• We can measure code




• How long does it take for a functions to run





• 1 + 1 = 2





• 1 + 1 = 2

• Foo is faster than bar = foo is better


measure design


measure design

• green is better than blue


measure design


• this makes me feel good


measure design


• this makes me feel good

• i dont know what i like but i know what i dont!


different mindset


different mindset

• we look at the stuff differently


different mindset

• we look at the stuff differently

• we talk different dialects of geek


frontend hell


Drupal Core

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everyone’s packing css


Drupal Core

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css

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css filesdont make it harder than it is


css files

• Stop adding crap!

• only add if its nessesary

• it looks pretty ?


epicmodule.admin.css

• epicmodule.admin.css

• For all you admin love stuff


epicmodule.base.css

• epicmodule.base.css

• for all you basic needs - ajax hotness


epicmodule.theme.css

• epicmodule.theme.css

• if you really need colors & pretty stuff this is the palce


right to left

• epicmodule.xxxx.-rtl.css


repeat!

• epicmodule.admin.css

• epicmodule.base.css

• epicmodule.theme.css


stop adding crap!


what to do

• Make sure that the output is "themable"

• Themable is not css!

• Give us the markup

• Wrap<div class=”myepicmodule”>....</div>

• Add tpl files

• Dont hide theme functions

• make a README.txt


communicationmaking your self understandable


display suitez


my question

• So off course the next question is:How to make this work with subthemes ?


Q

• And my question would be, how do subthemes work exactly, I'm a dev, not a themer, so a quick explanation would help me out on this :)


A

• What would be sweet was to be able to config my contenttype with the ds_layouts from the basetheme (mothership/foobar/whatever)then i dont have to copy code around & around. (yup im a lazy)Did that made sense :)


time response


the sventel case

• display suite:

• http://drupal.org/node/1032882


http://drupal.org/node/1032882

http://drupal.org/node/1032882

ego tripping


ego tripping

• you Design what i Developed!


ego tripping

• you Design what i Developed!

• you Develop what i Design!


we share the pain


drupal design campberlin sommer 2011

june 24-25


resources

• @mortendk

• http://morten.dk

• http://drupal.org/project/mothership

• http://jacine.net/post/1099051638/how-weve-started-to-clean-up-css-in-drupals-system


http://morten.dk

http://morten.dk

http://morten.dk

http://morten.dk

http://jacine.net/post/1099051638/how-weve-started-to-clean-up-css-in-drupals-system






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