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Day-Trading Commodities and Navigating the Prop Firm Universe

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Personal Background

2002 Graduate from University of Notre Dame

Equity Prop Trader Tape reading Opening strategies

Futures Prop Trader Technical analysis Psychological analysis

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Agenda

Futures Market Overview

Proprietary Trading Firms

Technical Analysis

Trade Strategy/Examples

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Futures Markets

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Market Participants

Hedgers Speculators

Farmers, Manufacturers Hedge against future

price risk Lock in price margins

Benefit from risky nature of futures markets

Provide liquidity Does not intend to take

delivery

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Characteristics of Futures

Margin Different from equities/options Determined by exchanges

Expiration Monthly and quarterly

Leverage Control large amounts of a commodity with little

capital

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Crude Oil Futures (WTI)

Traded on NYMEX/GLOBEX 1000 barrels/contract Margin = $3,740 $10/tick Pit Hours: 9:00am – 2:30pm Avg. Daily Volume = 210,000 contracts Avg. Daily Range = $1.70

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Proprietary Trading Firms

Traditional Model

Profit Split/Draw/Fees

How to gain entry

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Prop vs. Retail

Retail Trading Prop Trading

Keep 100% of profits

Need substantial capital

Responsible for support

Profit split

No capital needed

Access to software, community, etc

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Equity Prop Trading

Personal Experience Spike Trading/Assent ECHO Trade

Current Landscape

Prop vs. Arcade

Capital Contribution vs. Fee for education

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TopStep Trader

Education & Recruitment

Chat room Product rooms Energies, Metals, Equities, FX, Interest Rates

Guest Speakers Dr. Andrew Menaker, Ron Feinstein, Anne-Marie

Baiynd, John Bougearel, Wally Labuz

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Topstep Trader Chat

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TopStep Trader Combine

Used to evaluate trading talent

$30K, 50K, $100K and $150K accounts

Evaluation Metrics Can not hit daily “loss-limit” Achieve profit objective Winning day percentage > 55

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$50K Combine Example

10 or 20 trading days

5 lot max position size

$3500 profit objective

$2000 max drawdown

$1000 daily loss limit

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Patak Trading Partners

Combine Live Trader

Junior vs. Senior trader

Mentoring

Morning meetings

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Technical Analysis

Trend Lines

Support/Resistance

Fibonacci Retracement/Extension

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Trendline

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Trend lines (example)

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Trend

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Trend (Example)

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Support/Resistance

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Support/Resistance Example

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Fibonacci Retracement/Extension

Most important retracement is 61.8% (Golden Ratio)

Key Zone = 61.8% - 78.6%

38.2% - 50% is used as a trend indicator

161.8% extension used for targets/support/resistance

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61.8% Retrace

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61.8% Retrace (Example)

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CL 161.8% extension

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CL 161.8% extension

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Trading Strategy

Top-down view to find levels Fibs Trendlines Highs/Lows

Focus on the psychology of the markets Springs/upthrusts Flags/pennants

Momentum – used for entries at key levels

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Springs & Upthrusts

Provide excellent risk:reward situations Immediate feedback Occur on all timeframes Powerful with the trend Spring An immediate rejection of a previous low

Upthrust An immediate rejection of a previous high

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Spring – Daily Chart

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Upthrust – Daily Chart

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Spring – 500 Tick Chart

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Upthrust – 500 Tick Chart

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Continuation Patterns

Flag Pattern Sharp move higher/lower Tight consolidation near highs/lows Continued move higher/lower

Pennant Pattern Forms in top of uptrend/bottom of downtrend Series of lower highs/higher lows Continued move higher/lower

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Flag

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Flag (Example)

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Pennant

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Pennant (Example)

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Q &A