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Guidance to Concrete Solutions
NORTH S ETARRCONCRETE CONSULTING, P.C.
Scott M. Tarr, P.E. FACI
Guidance to Concrete Solutions
NORTH STARRCONCRETE CONSULTING, P.C.
November 9, 2017
Concrete Moisture and pH TestingWhat Are We Measuring?
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What We Want to Avoid
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Moisture 101
Moisture is Found Naturally in Three States
SolidLiquid
Gas
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Moisture 101
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Moisture 101
Sources of Liquid Moisture and Vapor• Concrete
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How much free water ?
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Moisture 101
Typical 4000 psi concrete
32 gal of water/cu yd = 267 lbs/cu yd
Water-to-cement ratio 0.50
Leaves 133.5 lbs free water/yd
= 1,650 lbs free-water/1,000 sq ft (4” slab)
Water needed for hydration w/c 0.25 = 133.5 lbs
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Every truckload delivers over 100 gallonsof free water at no extra charge.
That’s Free Water!
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Moisture 101
Sources of Liquid Moisture and Vapor• Concrete
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Moisture 101
Sources of Liquid Moisture and Vapor• Concrete• Irrigation• Broken Pipes• Condensation (dewpoint or “adsorption”)
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Moisture 101
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Dewpoint Condensation
Dehumidified Air
Warm Humid Air
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Warm Slab Above Dewpoint Temperature
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Slab Surface Density
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Moisture 101
Sources of Liquid Moisture and Vapor• Concrete• Irrigation• Broken Pipes• Condensation (dewpoint or “adsorption”)• Fill Course (cushion or blotter layer)
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Moisture 101
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Moisture 101
Sources of Liquid Moisture and Vapor• Concrete• Irrigation• Broken Pipes• Condensation (dewpoint or “adsorption”)• Fill Course (cushion or blotter layer)• Adhesives• Maintenance
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Moisture 101
Groundwater Sources of Moisture• Hydrostatic Pressure• Capillary Action• Vapor Diffusion
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Concrete Slab-on-Ground
Hydrostatic Pressure
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Hydrostatic Pressure
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Water
Narrow Glass Straw
Capillary Action
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Water
Wide Glass Straw
Capillary Action
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Capillary Action
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Lower Vapor Pressure
Higher Vapor Pressure
Concrete
Vapor Diffusion
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Vapor Diffusion
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Water Vapor Pressure Differential
55°F and 100% RH = 0.214 psi
70°F and 30% RH= 0.108 psi
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Vapor Barrier / Retarder
Water Vapor Pressure Differential
70°F and 30% RH= .108 psi
55°F and 100% RH = 0.214 psi
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Note Condensed Water Droplets
Under VaporRetarder.
Vapor Retarder
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Lower Vapor Pressure
Higher Vapor Pressure
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Vapor Diffusion
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Vapor Diffusion
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Vapor Diffusion
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Slab Curling/Warping Moisture Gradient
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Slab Relative Humidity Gradient
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What is Dry?
CaCl MeterRH
ResistanceMeter
MassLoss
What is a Triathlete?
Surface RH(Hood Test)
Plastic Sheet
MatBond
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What Moisture is Measured?
CaClMeter
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Sla
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epth
% RH ~100%
Initial Concrete PlacementAfter Surface Drying – Moisture Gradient
Moisture Equilibration After Covering
Basics of Slab Moisture
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Sla
b D
epth
% RH ~100%
Initial Concrete PlacementAfter Surface Drying – Moisture Gradient
Moisture Equilibration After Covering
Basics of Slab Moisture
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Sla
b D
epth
% RH ~100%
Initial Concrete PlacementAfter Surface Drying – Moisture Gradient
Moisture Equilibration After Covering
Basics of Slab Moisture
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Sla
b D
epth
% RH ~100%
Initial Concrete PlacementAfter Surface Drying – Moisture Gradient
Moisture Equilibration After Covering
Basics of Slab Moisture
40% Slab DepthASTM F 2170
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Discrepancy Between Manufacturers???
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Sla
b D
epth
% RH ~100%
Initial Concrete PlacementAfter Surface Drying – Moisture Gradient
Moisture Equilibration After Covering
Basics of Slab Moisture
40% Slab DepthASTM F 2170
And If You Think Moisture is Tricky to Measure…What About pH???
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In Las Vegas, they make a big deal about pH…
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pHIs a measure of hydrogen ions in solution
But in Science…
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pH Testing• You are a chemist
preparing a solution• Clean Surface• Distilled or
Deionized Water• Puddle 1 inch
Diameter• 60 Seconds +/- 5
Seconds• Wet Paper and
Immediately Compare to Chart
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Don’t let moisture take a bite out of you or your business
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Thank You!Scott M. Tarr, P.E. FACI
Concrete Moisture and pH Testing�What Are We Measuring?Slide Number 2What We Want to AvoidMoisture 101Moisture 101Moisture 101Slide Number 7Moisture 101Slide Number 9Moisture 101Moisture 101Moisture 101Slide Number 13Slide Number 14Slide Number 15Slide Number 16Moisture 101Moisture 101Slide Number 20Slide Number 21Moisture 101Moisture 101Hydrostatic PressureSlide Number 25Hydrostatic PressureCapillary ActionCapillary ActionCapillary ActionVapor DiffusionVapor DiffusionSlide Number 32Slide Number 33Slide Number 35Slide Number 36Vapor RetarderVapor DiffusionVapor DiffusionVapor DiffusionSlide Number 41Slide Number 42Slide Number 44Slide Number 45Slide Number 46Slide Number 47Slide Number 48Slide Number 49Slide Number 50Slide Number 51Slide Number 52Slide Number 53Slide Number 54Slide Number 55Slide Number 56Slide Number 57