cern - european organization for nuclear research windows 2000 status focus december 6 th, 2001...

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Windows 2000 statusFOCUS

December 6th, 2001

Frédéric Hemmer - IT Division

Frédéric Hemmer/IT

FOCUS - December 6, 2001 2CE

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Outline

• Milestones• Backend environment• End User environment• Some difficulties• Evolution over the year



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FOCUS December 7, 2000: Announced schedule

PrototypePrototype

Windows 2000 PilotWindows 2000 Pilot

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep

Proof of concepts

Applications availability with MSIMigration scenarios

NICE 2000NICE 2000

Coexistence & Migration plan

Checkpoint

NICE 2000 with minimal set of apps

NICE 2000NICE 2000

Oct Nov Dec

W2KMTF



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MilestonesJuly 1999 Project Proposal – study started

February 2000 Pilot started – MS release W2K

July 2000 Server migration – SP1 Released; NetWare migration

November 2000 Install diskette; Web tools; Integration with Web Servers; Migration Task Force started

January 2001 NICE 2000 available with minimum applications

February 2001 NICE 2000 only on new laptops

June 2001 NICE 2000 officially introduced; Seminars organized; Training available; Documentation available

September 2001 Online tutorials available; Migration team contract

October 2001 Engineering applications available; SP2, IE 5.5 deployed; Office 2000 patch deployed; NICE XP proof of coexistence

November 2001 Web servers migrated to Windows 2000; Only one NetWare server left running

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Backend Environment



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Backend: key components• Active directory in native mode• Roaming profiles• DFS

– Allows for logical name space• \\cern.ch\dfs\Users\h\hemmer• \\cern.ch\Experiments\Lhcb

• Redirected My documents folder– To 8 home directory servers (allowing for 140 MB/user)– Available offline

• Group policy for application deployment• Logon scripts for local policies

– Local administrator password– News browser

• SMS for desktop management– Hardware/software inventories– Deployment of service packs– Remote tools

• Web based tools for managing desktops and infrastructure– Platform neutral– Reducing the support costs



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NICE 2000 – Main Servers

CERNHOME01-08

CERNDC01-03

CERNSMS

CERNMAC01

SRV1-6_NICE

SRV1-5_HOME

SRV1-6_DIV

WINSRV1-2

CERNDFS01

CERNSOFT01

CERNSCRATCH01

CERNPROF1-2

CERNOPER1-2 WEBxx



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Integration with Corporate DB’s

LanDBComputer NameMain UserMain Responsible

UserregOrganic UnitsPersonal Info

HR

Active Directory

SMS

Group Manager

• No duplication of corporate data

• No duplication of user interfaces



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h Computer Account

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End User Environment



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Applications

• Over 70 applications from many vendors– Including Autodesk, PCAD, Labview, etc…– Support model documented at

• http://w2kmtf.web/w2kmtf/Applications.htm

– Managed thru a mixture of• Group Policy• SMS• VB Scripting

– Simple Applications can be integrated in matters of hours

– Complex applications require several weeks• Testing, upgrade options• Example: HummingBird Exceed, Autodesk, Office



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NICE 2000/NT/95 coexistence

• Home directories shared– J: for NICE 95/NT– My Documents for NICE 2000– \\cern.ch\dfs\Users\h\hemmer– \\cerndfs01\dfs\Users\h\hemmer

• Office format compatible– Except Access 97/2000

• Phone book allows mapping• Divisional servers have not changed

– Although they should in the future• \\cern.ch\Divisions\ST\…



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NICE 2000 – tools & documentation• Group Manager• Quota Manager• Trustee Manager• Disable/Erase

Roaming Profile• Reset Password• Recreate Computer

Account• Create scratch

space

• Documentation– http://cern.ch/win– Bilingual Basic End

User documents– Bilingual Recorded

Tutorials (IE only)

• ACB• Installation floppy• Image CD available• Migration Team• Server status



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h NICE 2000: Video Controller Types

3D Prophet DDR-DVI

3D Prophet II GTS Pro

3D Prophet II MX

3Dlabs Oxygen VX1

ASUS AGP-V7100 DVI SDRAM v11.01

ATI Mobility 128 AGP (English)

ATI Rage Mobility 128 (English)

ATI RAGE MOBILITY AGP (English)

ATI RAGE MOBILITY PCI (English)

ATI RAGE MOBILITY-M AGP (English)

ATI RAGE MOBILITY-M PCI (English)

ATI RAGE MOBILITY-M1 AGP (English)

ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE II PCI

ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE II+ PCI

ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE IIC AGP

ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE LT PRO AGP 2X

ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE PRO AGP 2X

ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE PRO PCI

ATI Technologies Inc. ATI-264VT2 PCI

ATI Technologies Inc. mach64 CT PCI

July 10, 2001: 75 Different Video Controllers Types



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h NICE 2000: Portable Computer Types

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21 2 11 2 1 1 1 2IBM 26296VG

IBM 26443AG

IBM 26478AU

IBM 2647BFG

Compaq Armada E500

COMPAQ AWRDACPI

Hewlett-Packard HP OmniBook PC

Dell Computer Corporation Inspiron 4000



Dell Computer Corporation Latitude C800

FUJITSU SIEMENS LIFEBOOK S Series

Dell Computer Corporation OptiPlex GX1 350L

TOSHIBA P3480

Sony Corporation PCG-F104K(CH)

Sony Corporation PCG-F809K(GB)

Sony Corporation PCG-R505TS(UC)

Sony Corporation PCG-SR11K(GB)

Sony Corporation PCG-SR17K(UC)

Sony Corporation PCG-Z505LE(UC)

Sony Corporation PCG-Z600NE(GB)

TOSHIBA Portable PC

Dell Computer Corporation Precision WorkStation 420 MT

TOSHIBA S2800-400

TOSHIBA S35DVD

Compaq Workstation AP200

Dell Computer Corporation XPS-Z

July 10, 2001: 214 Portable computers

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Some Difficulties



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Difficulties (I)• Under configured/unsupported hardware• NT4 – Windows 2000 coexistence

– Roaming profiles• Can be disabled

– NTFS permissions• Use trustee manager

• Applications accessing directly hardware– Scanners; CD Writers; etc.

• Stability– People do not logoff anymore

• What are logon/logoff scripts useful for?– Offline folders sometimes confusing

• I’ve lost half of my folders !• Training obviously needed

• Outlook not the perfect tool– Needed at least as Schedule+ replacement– Parameterization very important



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Difficulties (II)• Applications

– Some applications badly written• Typically uses .ini files• Requires (sometimes) tricky scripting/VB

– Unavailability of MSI• Workaround by using VBScript ZAP files calling setup

– Coexistence with other tools• E.g. Oracle, AFS

• MS Group Policy– Not very flexible

• E.g. Office 2000 security patch requires complete redeployment• Leaving the domain removes Office

• SMS– Software metering does not scale

• Handling of tricky PnP problems– E.g. Siemens Lifebook does not see the network adapter when booted on

batteries– Undocking from port replicator cannot be done while in standby or hibernation

• MS handling of (security) patches is targeted at the masses, not in a corporate environment– E.g. numbering does not change for different revision of the same patch

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Evolution over the year



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NICE 95/NT/2K (D)Evolution

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NICE 2000 Breakdown

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November 22, 2001: 5275 Workstations



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Divisional evolution

November,22 200139% of 5275 machines are Windows

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Proposal• Freeze NICE 95/NT by end of 2001

– Still installable by floppy– No new applications, functionality, etc

• Stop (central) support by mid 2002– No answers from helpdesk– Solution to problems: upgrade to W2K– Still installable by floppy

• Ensure servers are running until end of 2002– NICE 95/NT environment still working

• NICE 95/NT for new PC’s ?– Unlikely new PC’s will be able to run Windows 95– We still have a stock of Windows 95 capable PC’s



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Summary• People usually not unhappy happy with NICE 2000

– Especially compared to NICE 95– Mobile computing is now easier

• Windows 2000 is maybe not perfect– But every time we looked a a problem, there was a solution– There are numerous tools and interfaces available– And … we now have a PSS license !

• Will not be easy to keep the momentum– But essential in order to reduce support costs– E.g. Coexistence, security fixes, hardware support

• CERN seems more advanced than other HEP labs in terms of W2K deployment, especially on the server side

• All this has only be possible because of your collaboration – thank you !