CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY19January2015

AT8.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthecommittee,theCouncillors,ConstableAndyCrawford,3RepresentativesfromSGN(GasServices).ScottDougal(SeniorManager),AlanMacDonald(OperationalPlanner),GerryDocherty(SiteManager)and9membersofthepublic.Heremindedallpresentthatthemeetingisrecordedforthepurposeoftakingminutes.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),PatrickTrust(ViceConvener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),GailSteven(Treasurer),BobbieBeggs,JoCameron,MikeCrowe,EricDuncan,,LornaLee,Barrie,Morton,BobMurray,CouncillorDavidKinniburgh,CouncillorEllenMorton,CouncillorRichardTrail,ConstableAndyCrawford,ScottDougal,AlanMacDonald,GerryDochertyand9membersofthepublic.APOLOGIESJimHollywood,AndreaSteeleMcLeanandMichaelWilson.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.POLICEREPORTConstableAndyCrawfordsaidthatRuralWatchisnowupandrunning.Andyhandedoutaleafletthatexplainedhowtogetinvolved.Heencouragedallpresentto“signup”.Itisfreetojoin.Hethenpresentedareportcoveringthetimefrom1Decemberuntilnow.Therewere56incidentsintheCardrossarea.Manyofthesewereofaminornature.Theyconsistedofabandonedvehicles,anambulancerequestingassistance,aroadtrafficcollision,amemberofthepublicdialled999inerror,speedchecks,missingpersonsetc.Therewere7crimes,notably,twothefts.Between3and4December,abatterywasstolenfromthetemporarytrafficlightsonMainRoad.Aboxofconstructionequipmentwasalsostolen.AcarwasvandalisedonHillsideRoad,onXmasDay.Therewere2breachofthepeacecasesinprivatedwellinghousesand2wildlifeandcountrysideactcrimes.Mikeaskedaboutcarparkingonthefootway.ConstableCrawfordsaidthathehaspassedthematterontothelocal“beat”officer,whowillbepursuingthematter.Therewerenoquestions.TonythankedConstableCrawford,whothenleftthemeeting.FORTHCOMINGROADWORKSScottDougalfromSGNopenedwithabriefverbalpresentation.Hehopestogivea“Powerpoint”presentationinthenearfuture.Scottsaidthattheworksinvolvedtherefurbishmentofapproximately1.3kmofpipeworkintheA814.Usingatechniquecalled“LiveMainsInsertion”whichiseffectively”trenchless”,shouldminimalisedisruption.Scottsaidthatheisawareofthehighlevelofdisruptionsufferedbyresidents,whenthehighpressuremainwasinstalledtwoyearsago.SGNwillprovide“inhouse”trafficmanagementinanattempttoreduceany

2problemscausedbytemporarytrafficlights.SGNarecommittedtoa24/7,365daysayearservice.TherewillbeanofficeonsiteandGerryDocherty(SiteManager)isoncall.DetailsoftheWorksandupdatesontheprogresswillbeprovidedusingflyers,socialmediaandCommunityCouncilMeetings.TheWorksshouldtakebetween24and28weekstocomplete.GailaskedwhytheproposedWorkswerenotcarriedoutthelasttimeSGNwereworkingintheA814road.ScottsaidthatthepreviousWorksinvolvedahighpressurepipeline.ItisdifferentandseparatefromtheWorksthatwillbecarriedoutonthelowpressuredistributionpipeline.PatrickaskediftherewouldbeaconflictbetweentheWorksthatarebeingcarriedoutatthemomentandthefutureWorks.Scottsaidthatthereisasysteminplacethatshouldpreventsuchaconflict.ItishopedthatworkwillbegininAprilwhenthedemandislowerthaninthewintermonths.BobaskediftherewouldbesignsatDumbartonandHelensburghwarningofWorksinCardross.ScottsaidthatSGN’strafficmanagementsystemallowedforsignsintheselocations.Scott,AlanandGerrythenleftthemeeting.MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON17NOVEMBER2014AcceptancewasproposedbyMikeCroweandsecondedbyBobbyBeggs.MATTERSARISINGBye-election: Tonywelcomedthenewlyelectedcommunitycouncilmembers.Theyare RobertBeggs,LornaLeeandBarrieMorton.SawMill: CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatthematterofthenewsurfacedareanearthepark,isstillbeing investigated.Christmas TonysaidthattheXmastreeinthechurchhallhadraised£1000.00forRobinHouseandTree: theEastofGlasgowMission. BeachClean: TonysaidthattheBeachCleanwasverysuccessful.ThenextbeachcleanwillbeinMarch.BarrsRoad/ TonysaidthatthedrainageintheareaofthedamagedkerbswillhavetobeattendedtoBarrsTerrace: beforethekerbsarerepaired.Itishopedrepairswillbecarriedoutsoon.Leaveson Tonysaidthatthevillagewardenisbackonduty.HeisonrestricteddutiesandwewillhaveFootways towaitandseeifthisaffectstheremovalofleaveslyingonroadsandfootways.AndRoads: Roads: TonysaidthatremovaloftimberbyTheWoodlandsTrust,hasstarted.Footpath TonysaidthatquitealotofrepairworkwascarriedoutbeforeChristmas.Repairs:PlantedArea TonysaidthatwhenplantingstartsinSpring,wewillseeifourconcernshavebeendealtatNewsagents: with.Re-cycling TonysaidthattheAmenitiesManagerlookedattheareaonTuesday.Asyet,therehasBinsNear notbeenanycommentfromhim.Newsagents:Culvertat EricaskediftherewereanyfurtherdetailsonthePlanningApplication.CouncillorKinniburghSawMill: saidthattheCouncilisawaitingfurtherinformationontheapplication.CORRESPONDENCE Duncansaidtherewasnocorrespondence.

3PLANNING Ericsaidtherewere2applications.TheManseonMainRoad–Internalalterations,installation

ofnewwindows,replacementroofcovering,stonerepairsandrepairstorendering. ArdmoreMid-Lodge–Dischargeofplanningobligationtoallowdwellinghousetobesold

separatelyfromgrannyflat.HEALTH PatricksaidthathehasbeenaskedtoattendameetingwiththeLomondPatientsGroupto relateinformationfromGreaterGlasgowandClydeHealthBoardontheworkbeingdoneat theValeofLevenHospital.ItappearsthatwhatgoesonattheVale,hasreducedthework atPaisleyandreducedthenumberofpatientcrossingsoftheErskineBridge. Patricksaidthecommunityshoulddecideontheneedfora“HeartStart”machineinCardross.

Therewouldbeaneedfortrainingandforagreementonasuitablelocationforsuchamachine. CardrosshasagoodresponsetimefromtheAmbulanceService. Tonysaidthatwewillcomebackwithanansweratnextmonth’smeeting. AOCBBroadband: Tonysaidthatthe80%ofthevillagehasaccesstofasterbroadband.BTwillbringaroadshowto thevillage,sometimethismonth.LocalPlan: TonysaidthattheLocalAuthorityhasnowreceivedthePlanandcommentsfromtheReporter. TheAuthoritywillmeeton22Januarytoconsiderthesecomments.FormaladoptionofthePlan shouldbearoundAprilorMay2015.Newsletter: Itwasagreedbymembersthatanewslettershouldbepreparedandmadeavailablefrom theLibrary,thePostOfficeandthePharmacy.Tonyaskedthatanyitemsforinclusioninthe newsletterbemadeavailabletohimby24February. CalaEntrance: Mikesaidthatthereisaconcretepillarwithelectricalwireshangingoutofit. CouncillorMortonsaidthatshewillgetthestreetlightingsquadtoinvestigate. CarmanRoad: LornaaskediftherewasanywayofpreventingheavylorriesusingthenarrowroadoverCarman. Tonysaidthatthematterisraisedoften.However,sincetheroadis“adopted”andisapublic road,itisnotpossibletolimitvehiclesusingit.Theroadisusedbyheavyvehiclessupplying adjacenthabitations.WasteBin Bobbieaskedifa“dogpoo”bincouldbesitedatthetopofBarrsRoad.CouncillorTrailagreedatBarrsRoad: topursuethematter.Lightingin JoaskedwhowasresponsibleformaintainingthestreetlightinginPeelStreet.CouncillorPeelStreet: Mortonsaidthatshewillcheck,butasa“private”road,itislikelytobethe responsibilityofthehouseownersadjacenttotheroad.PUBLICQUESTIONTIMEParkingin AmemberofthepublicaskedifanythingcanbedonetolimitparkingonBainfieldRoad.BainfieldRd.: arenotbeingparkedondrivewaysprovided.Tonysaidthatcarscanbeparkedonanadopted road,providedtheydosolegally.Burns PatricksaidthatthereisaBurnsSupperintheGeilstonHallon6February.TicketsareSupper: availablefromhimselfandBarrie.DATEOFNEXTMEETING

ThenextmeetingwillbeheldonMonday16February2015at8.00pmintheGeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.

CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY16February2015

AT8.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthecommittee,theCouncillors,LauraMerchant(HelensburghAdvertiser),oneRepresentativefromSGN(GasServices)-GerryDocherty(SiteManager)and8membersofthepublic.Heremindedallpresentthatthemeetingisrecordedforthepurposeoftakingminutes.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),PatrickTrust(ViceConvener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),GailSteven(Treasurer),BobbieBeggs,JoCameron,EricDuncan,JimHollywood,LornaLee,AndreaSteeleMcLean,BobMurray,CouncillorDavidKinniburgh,CouncillorRichardTrail,LauraMerchant,GerryDocherty,and8membersofthepublic.APOLOGIESMikeCrowe,BarrieMorton,CouncillorEllenMortonandMichaelWilson.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.POLICEREPORTTonysaidthathehadreceivedareportfromInspectorMiller.Thereisnotalotgoingoninthevillage.TherehavebeentwodomesticdisputeswhichhavebeenreportedtotheProcuratorFiscal.Acarwasdamagedwhensomeonescratchedthesideofitwithakey.Onepersonhasbeenreportedforthemisuseofdrugs.Thereweretwoattemptedbreakins.Therewasoneroadtrafficoffenceforspeedingwithinthevillageboundaries.FORTHCOMINGROADWORKSTonysaidthatGerryDocherty(SiteManagerforSGN)hadcomealongtoansweranyquestionsrelatingtotheWorks.MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON19JANUARY2015AcceptancewasproposedbyBobMurrayandsecondedbyPatrickTrust.MATTERSARISINGSawMill: CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatthematterofthenewsurfacedareanearthepark,isstillbeing investigated.BeachClean: TonysaidthattheBeachCleanwasverysuccessful.Bobsaidthatthenextbeachcleanwillbeon

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Saturday25April2015.Footpath TonysaidthatquitealotofrepairworkwascarriedoutbeforeChristmas.TendershavebeenRepairs: issuedformoreworktobedone.Barriersaretobeerectedonthefootwaywestofand onthesamesideofthepharmacy,probablynextweek.Culvertat CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattheCouncilisstillawaitingfurtherinformationontheSawMill: application. Broadband: Tonysaidflyershavebeendistributedaroundthevillagetoadvertiseavailabilityof “HighSpeed”Broadband.Lightingon TonysaidthatCouncillorEllenMortonisdealingwiththematter.SincesheisnotatPeelStreet: themeeting,wewillhopeforanansweratthemeetinginMarch.Parkingin TonysaidthatInspectorMillertoldhimthatparkingonthisadoptedroadislegal.BainfieldRd.: Thepolicecannotpreventlegalparking.WasteBin CouncillorTrailsaidthatabinwillbeputinplaceafterthenewbudgetisannouncedatBarrsRoad: inApril.CORRESPONDENCE DuncansaidthatNVAhadsentacopyoftheirannualreportanditisavailabletoanyone whowishestoseeit.TonysaidthathehadaletterfromtheLocalAuthority’sContingencies Officer.Itsaidthaton27Februaryat1o’clock,thereisaCommunityResiliencemeetingat theUnitedReformChurchHallinHelensburgh.PLANNING Ericsaidtherewas1application.Itisforthedemolitionofanexistingsinglestorieextension totherearofadwellinghouseandadetacheddoublegarage.Then,theerectionofasingle detachedgarage,entranceporchandsinglestorieextensiontothesamedwellinghouse. ItisatSpringvaleonFerryRoad.urbatingHEALTH PatricksaidthattheLomondPatientsGrouphaveagainwrittentotheChiefExecutiveof NHSGreaterGlasgowandClyde,askingforfurthermeetingsabouttheValeofLevenHospital andhowitcouldeasethepressureonthehospitalatPaisley.TheyhavecopiedintheHealth SecretaryforScotland. PatricksaidthathewouldbeguidedbythecommunityonHeartstartshouldberolledout InCardross.Thebiggestissueiswhereaheartstartmachinecouldbesitedeffectively. Cardrossisinaverygoodresponseareaforambulancecallouttimes. TonyaskedmemberstocanvassthecommunityandcometotheMarchmeetingwithan answer.AOCBAGM: TonysaidthatJackieBailieMSPiskeentoattendtheAGMinApril.RuralWatch: Tonysaidthatthereareleafletsattherearofthehallgivingdetails.Brownies: Thegroupdoesnothavealeaderandarelookingforavolunteer.Dishevelled TonysaidthatCardrossisinadishevelledstateandaskedthatthecouncillorstakeCondition: hiscommentbacktoArgyllandButeCouncil.Hesaidthatconsideringitisthe“frontdoor” toArgyllandBute,itisadisgrace.ForestryWorks: BobsaidthatthatduetoworksattheendofFebruaryandthebeginningofMarch,therewillbe

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accessrestrictionsontheStoneymollanRoadtoBallochandontheJohnMuirWay.Floodingat Andreasaidthattheproblemhasnotyetbeenresolved.Therearcarparkisstillbeingflooded.Cerarwood Whenthefloodwaterdisapates,theremainingmaterialisahealthhazard.Court: Patricksaidthatthemaincauseoffloodingoccursafterheavyrainfall.Atorrentofwaterruns fromthewestsideoftheCalahouses,downthepath,acrossthecarparkontheNorthsideof theroad,acrosstheA814andintoCedarwoodCourtcarpark.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathe willlookintothematter. Telecare: Josaidthatanoldgentlemaninthevillagewhorecentlyusedthisservice,layforoneandahalf hours,beforetherewasaresponse.Tonysaidthattheindividualmusttakeanycomplaintsto theserviceproviderofTelecare.Hesuggestedthatcallinganambulanceon999wouldhave gainedaquickerresponse.PUBLICQUESTIONTIMEForthcoming GeorgeMurphyaskediftheadditionalWorksattheEastofthevillagearetobebroughtRoadworks: forwardtotieinwiththeWorksstartinginApril.GerryDochertysaidthatthisistheintention atpresent.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewishedtothankSGNforreplacingroadcovers soquicklyandsoefficiently.DATEOFNEXTMEETING

ThenextmeetingwillbeheldonMonday16March2015at8.00pmintheGeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.

CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

INACCORDANCEWITHCONSTITUTION11PARAGRAPHh

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY17February2014

AT9.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthecommittee.Heremindedallpresentthatthemeetingisrecordedforthepurposeoftakingminutes.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),GailSteven(Treasurer),JoCameron,EricDuncan,JimHollywoodandBobMurrayLOCALPLANTonycalledthemeetingtodiscussaletterthathehadreceived,relatingtotheLocalPlan.TheletterwasfromAlexanderMitchellonbehalfofG.A.BARRofBirmingham.TheletterrequestedameetingwithmembersoftheCommunityCounciltodiscussproposeddevelopmentplansforhousingtotheWestofCardross.ItwasproposedbyMr.MitchellthatameetingtakeplacebeforetheReporterhadmadeadecisiononArgyllandButeCouncil’sproposalsforthearea.EricaskedifArgyllandButehadapolicyregardingDevelopersandthesupplyofSocialHousing.TonysuggestedthatattheAreaCommittee,weasktheCounciltoconsiderthatanysocialhousingwithinanewdevelopment,shouldbecompletedbeforeanyfurtherdevelopmentisallowed.TonysuggestedthatatthenextCommunityCouncilmeeting,weshouldaskourMSPandourlocalcouncillorstopersuadeArgyllandButeCounciltoadoptthisproposal.Allpresentagreedwithbothsuggestions..ItwasagreedbyallmemberspresentthatnodiscussionsshouldtakeplacewithanydeveloperuntiltheReporter’sdecisionhasbeenseenbymembersoftheCommunityCouncil.ENDOFMEETINGTonythankedmembersforattendingthemeeting.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.

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CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY16March2015

AT8.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthecommittee,theCouncillors,4RepresentativesfromSGN(GasServices).ScottDougal(SeniorManager),AlanMacDonald(OperationalPlanner),DouglasMiller(TrafficManagementPlanner),JamesHarkin(SiteManager)and5membersofthepublic.Heremindedallpresentthatthemeetingisrecordedforthepurposeoftakingminutes.Althoughrecordingsaredestroyed,therecordingoftheMinutesforforFebruary2015willberetaineduntil16August2015.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),PatrickTrust(ViceConvener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),GailSteven(Treasurer),BobbieBeggs,JoCameron,EricDuncan,JimHollywood,LornaLee,BobMurray,CouncillorDavidKinniburgh,CouncillorRichardTrail,ScottDougal,AlanMacDonald,DouglasMiller,JamesHarkinand5membersofthepublic.APOLOGIESMikeCrowe,AndreaSteeleMcLean,BarrieMorton,CouncillorEllenMortonandMichaelWilson.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.POLICEREPORTTonysaidthatanumberofincidentshadoccurredinthevillagesince16February.TherewasatheftofcablingandotherequipmentfromtheunoccupiedMansebetween17and18February.On23February,therewasasuspiciousvehicleseeninthevicinityofRitchieAvenue.Between28Februaryand1March,therewasvandalismatSeabankCottage.FORTHCOMINGROADWORKSScottDougal(SeniorManagerforSGN)hadcomealongtoansweranyquestionsrelatingtotheWorks.ScottsaidthattheWorkswillcommenceon20April.JamesHarkin(SiteManager)willbeonsiteeveryday.Hewillholda“surgery”everyMondayatthesiteofficeintheCarPark.JameswilltrytoansweranyqueriesresultingfromtheWorksandbroughttohimbymembersofthecommunity.UsingaplanshowingtheextentoftheWorks,JamesgaveashorttalkonhowtheWorkswillbecarriedout.DouglasMiller(TrafficManagementPlanner)saidthatBBCScotlandwillbenotified,toallowthemtobroadcastdetailsoftheWorks.TonythankedScott,Alan,DouglasandJamesfortheirpresentationandtheyleftthemeeting.MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON16FEBRUARY2015AcceptancewasproposedbyBobbieBeggsandsecondedbyJimHollywood.

2MATTERSARISINGSawMill: TonysaidthatthematterhasbeenreferredtothePlanningDepartment.Culvertat CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattheCouncilisstillawaitingfurtherinformationontheSawMill: application.JosaidthatshehadtalkedtoDavidMilleratPlanningandheseemed“veryupbeat”

abouttheapplication.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewillfindoutwhatstagetheapplicationhasreachedasquicklyaspossible.EricaskediftheCommunityCouncilcanwritetoArgyllandBute,inanattempttofindoutwhatishappening.GailsaidthattheSawMillseemstobealawuntoitself.Tonyagreedthatwewillwritewhenweknowwhatstagetheapplicationhasreached.

Broadband: Tonysaidtherewasaroadshowinthelibraryon4March.Patricksaidthatbroadbandisnot

evenlydistributedaroundthevillage.Hehasbeentoldthatitisnotavailabletohim.Lightingon TonysaidthatitisaprivateroadandhasnotbeenadoptedbytheCouncil.TheresidentshavePeelStreet: beenaskediftheywouldbepreparedtobringtheroaduptoanadoptablestandard.Theyhave notyetreplied.WasteBin CouncillorTrailsaidthatabinwillbeputinplaceafterthenewbudgetisannouncedatBarrsRoad: inApril.Dishevelled Tonysaidthatfollowingourrecentcomplaintaboutthegeneraluntidinessofthevillage,theCondition: mainroadandpavementswereclearedofdebris.Thepreviousvillagewardenhasbeen redeployed.Itishopedthatareplacementwillbefoundsoon.Gailsaidthatremovingthe leavesfromthefootwayshadexposedthepoorstateofthesurfacing.Thefootwaysare badlypot-holed.Tonysaidthatthereisaprogrammetoresurfacethesefootways. Floodingat CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatthefloodinghadbeencausedbyanunusuallyheavyrainfall.Cerarwood Culvertsarebeingcleanedonaregularbasis.Court: Telecare: TonysaidthatprovisionofTelecareisaprivatematterandcanonlyberesolvedbytheparties involved.CORRESPONDENCE DuncansaidtherewasaletterfromBTaboutanadoptakioskscheme.TheBTphonekiosk nearScottGardensisavailableforadoptionbyanyonewhoisinterested. TherewasaletterfromArgyllandButesayingthatsomeofthedisabledparkingbaysin Cardross,onadoptedroads,aretobesubjecttoanActprohibitingparkingonthem. Tonysaidthathehadreceivedaletterfromananonymousandunaddressedsource. Itwasaddressed“StrictlyPrivateandConfidential”.ThecontentsrelatedtoCedarwoodCourt Residents.ItconcernedtheCommunityCouncilandMinutesoftheCommunityCouncil.As such,itbecomesapublicdocument.Itcarriedthenamesandaddressesoftheresidentsof1to

18CedarwoodCourt.Theletterwasdated9February.Thelettersaidthaton26February,theHelensburghAdvertiserpublishedanarticleconcerningfloodingatCedarwoodCourtcarpark.

ThesubjectwasdiscussedattheCommunityCouncilmeetingon16February.Theletterwriter disagreedwiththestatementthattherewere“awfulsmellslingeringsewage”fromtheformer schooltoiletsonthesite.Thewritersaidthatnoneoftheresidentshadexperiencedproblems ofsmellsorsewageinoraroundtheflats.TonysaidthatanycomplainttoaCommunity CouncillorisacceptedandrepeatedattheCommunityCouncilmeeting,ingoodfaith.Tonysaid thatcommentsmadeatthepublicmeetingcannotberetracted,butthememberofthePress presenttonight,isfreetoreportoncommentsmadeattonight’smeeting. Tonysaidthatwhileheishappytorespondtotheletter,hecannotdosobecauseitwaswritten anonymously.

3PLANNING Ericsaidtherewere4applications.Thefirstisfor“theupgradingofanexisting

telecommunicationssiteandassociatedworksatGeilstonFarm,MurraysRoad. Thesecondisfor“thedemolitionofanexistingconservatory,outhouseandlean-tocanopy andtheerectionofareplacementconservatory,porch,lean-toglasscanopyandsinglestorey

sideextension”atSouthLadeinStationRoad.Thethirdisfor“alterationsandextensionsto dwellinghouse”attheManse.Thefourthisthesamewordingbutcomesunder“listedbuildings andconservationareaconsent”. HEALTH PatricksaidthattheLomondPatientsGrouphavereceivedareplytotheirlettertotheChief ExecutiveofNHSGreaterGlasgowandClyde,askingforfurthermeetingsabouttheValeofLeven

HospitalandhowitcouldeasethepressureonthehospitalatPaisley. Therewereinterestingfactsandfiguresthatwillbediscussedatameetingon31March. PatricksaidthatitlooksasthoughtheMedicalAssessmentUnitdoesaverygoodjobatthe ValeofLeven. PatricksaidthatmembersofthecommunitywithwhomhehaddiscussedHeartstart,seemed contentwithexistingambulanceresponsetimes.Thismatchedtheviewssolicitedbyother CommunityCouncillors.ItwastheviewofthemeetingthatHeartstartshouldnotbepromoted inthevillageatpresent.Thisviewcouldchangeifambulanceresponsetimesgetlonger.AOCBAGM: Tonysaidthatthedatesofthemeetingforthenext12monthsare:- 18May,15June,17August,21September,19October,16November,18January2016, 15February2016,21March2016,AGM18April2016.DarleithRd. JimHollywoodsaidthatsomeofthesettssupportingthewesternflowerbed,arelyingA814Junction: looseontheroadsurface.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewillpursuethematter.EstateAgent BobMurraysaidthatthevillageisonceagainbeingblightedbyestateagentsigns.Signs: Theyhavebeenputonstreetfurniture.Bobsaidthatitisaplanningmatter. CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewillgetanupdateonthematterandcomebackwiththe

answer.BobsaidthatClydeEstateAgentsarethemajoroffender.BeachClean: GailsaidthatthenextbeachcleanwillbetakingplaceonSaturday25April2015.BusStop Gailsaidthatthereisgraffitionthebusshelteracrosstheroadfromtheruralseat.Shelters: Jimsaidthatthebuscompaniesuseacontractortocleantheshelters.Theyarecleanedona fairlyregularbasis.PUBLICQUESTIONTIMEUseofHorns IanFlemingtalkedabouttheunreasonablelevelofnoisepollutionbyScotrail.IanhadattendedOnRailways: ameetingwithAlanReidofScotrail.IanhasbeentoldbyHSEthatsafetymattersontherailway arenottheirresponsibility.Iansaidthattherailwaysregulatethemselves.Tonysaidthatafter thefatalityattheBainfieldCrossing,hadbeentoldthatthedrivermustsoundthehornifhe

perceivesadanger.Iansaidthatthedecibellevelofthesoundinghornsistoohigh.Theycanbe heardfromadistanceof1mileaway.Iansaidthateitherthecrossingsareunsafe,inwhichcase

RailtrackshouldmakethemsafeORRailtrackputsaspeedlimitonthesectionandcutsthe noisedown.IansaidAlanReidwasquitesurprisedthattheCouncilisnotdoinganythingabout theproblem.IanaskedthattheCommunityCouncilandArgyllandButeCounciltakethematter up.Iansaidthatthenoisefromtheuseofhornsisunnecessaryandunacceptable. Josaidthatasapersonwithhearingdifficultieswhousesthecrossingsforrecreationalpurpose,

shereliesonthehornssoundingforhersafetywhenusingthecrossings. TonyaskedthatCommunityCouncillorscanvasmembersofthecommunityfortheiropinionson thematter.Ifatthenextmeetingthereisevidenceofgeneralconcern,Tonysaidthathewill

writetoJackieBailieMSPandAlanReidMPsettingouttheCommunity’sconcerns. Bobsaidthatthenoisedriveshimtodistraction.

4Floodingon GeorgeMurphysaidtherehastwicebeenbadflooding,40to50yardseastofhishouse,ontheA814: A814road.Thewaterwasnotgettingintotheroaddrainagesystem.Hewonderedifconditions

nearCedarwoodCourtweresimilar.Georgesaidthathepresumedtherewasaprogrammeinplacetocleantheroaddrains.CouncillorKinniburghconfirmedthatthereisagulleycleaningprogrammeinplace.

DATEOFNEXTMEETING ThenextmeetingwillbetheAGMandwillbeheldonMonday20April2015at7.30pminthe GeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.

CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

AGMHELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY19April2015

AT7.30P.M.

WELCOMETheChairwelcomedthecommittee,theCouncillors,JackieBaillieMSPandthe8membersofthepublic.AspecialwelcomewasextendedtoGeorgeMurphywhowillchairtheelectionofConvenor.Thisisthe41stAGMoftheCardrossCommunityCouncil.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),PatrickTrust(ViceConvener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),GailSteven(Treasurer),BobbyBeggs,JoCameron,EricDuncan,JimHollywood,LornaLee,BobMurray,GeorgeMurphy,MichaelWilson,JackieBaillieMSP,CouncillorRichardTrail,and8membersofthepublic.APOLOGIESAndreaSteeleMcLean,CouncillorEllenMorton,CouncillorDavidKinniburgh,WilliamandCathyDerries.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.MINUTESOFAGMHELD14thApril2014AcceptancewasproposedbyBobMurray. SecondedbyEricDuncan.MATTERSARISING

Therewerenomattersarising.

CONVENER’SREPORTAccounts: TonysaidthatthelocalmediahadreportedonafinancialirregularityrelatingtotheGeilston

Hall.ThemediareferredtoamemberoftheCommunityCouncilbeinginvolvedinthisirregularity.ThepersoninvolvedresignedfromtheCommunityCouncilwhentheirregularitywasdiscoveredintheHallTrustaccounts.TheseaccountsarenotconnectedtotheCommunityCouncilinanyway.TherecordsoftheCommunityCouncilwerescrutinisedbyArgyllandButeCouncilbackto1996,whentheCommunityCouncilsweresetup.NoirregularitieswerefoundintheCommunityCouncilaccounts.

LocalPlan: TheLocalPlanhasbeenadoptedbyArgyllandButeCouncil,afterbeingreferredtotheReporter Twositeswereallocatedforhousing.ThelargeareaatKirktonFarmfor150housesandsmallarea atthebottomoftheLeaBraefor5houses.

2HomeFor Theapplicationtobuildhousesontheplotoflandtothewestoftheoldparishchurch,onHeroes: landownedbyTheCrystalTrust,wasrefusedbytheCouncil.Themajorityoftherepresentations FORtheproposal,werefromoutwiththelocalcommunity.98%oftheobjectorswerefromwithin thelocalcommunity.Roads: Worksbegantoday,toupgradeexistinggassupplieswithinthevillage.Theworksshouldtakesix monthstocomplete.TrafficManagementisthebiggestconcernresultingfromtheWorks. SGNhavebeenforthcomingwithinformationandwillhavearepresentativeavailableonsiteto dealwithresidentsproblems.Village Tonysaidthatthevillagehasbeeninanuntidystateformonths.AnewvillagewardenhasbeenTidiness: allocatedtocleanupthevillage.FirstWorld The100thanniversaryofthestartofhostilitieswascommemoratedinCardrossin2014.On3AugustWar: herewasanecumenicalserviceinthechurch.On4August,therewasaserviceatthecenotaph. Childreninthevillagewereencouragedtoassistattheseservices.Community TheCommunityCouncilgainedthreemembersin2014.BarrieMortonreturned.BobbyBeggsCouncil: andLornaLeejoinedasnewmembers.TheCommunityCouncilisthreeshortofitstotal

compliment.TonythankedhisfellowcouncillorsfortheirsupportduringtheyearandmembersofthepublicfortheirregularattendanceatCommunityCouncilMeetings,

Outwiththe Tonyandothercouncilmembersvisit16differentorganisationsthatimpactonCardross.ThisVillage: involvesattendingmeetingsandseminars.Cardrossiswellrepresentedoutwiththevillage.2015-2016: Thecommunityneedstobevigilantwithregardstoanyfuturedevelopmentproposals withinCardross.Treasurer’s GailgaveareportonincomeandexpenditureandsaidthattheaccountsmaintainahealthyReport: surplusof£849.99.TheaccountswereexaminedbyMargaretCalderandthebankbalancewas

verifiedasstated.TonyexplainedthattheaccountswillbepublishedinMarch,attheendofeachfinancialyear.

Electionof OfficeBearersstooddownandGeorgeMurphytookthechair.GeorgesaidthatitwashisprivilegeConvenor tochairthissmallpartoftheAGMinwhichaConvenoriselectedfortheyearahead.HewasAndVice honouredtohavebeenaskedtotakethechair.GeorgecalledfornominationsforthepostofConvenor: Convenor.PatrickTrustnominatedTonyDavey.BarrieMortonsecondedthenomination. Therewerenoothernominations.GeorgetookavoteanddeclaredTonyelectedasConvenerfor theyear2015-16.GeorgethankedtheCommitteeMembersonbehalfofhimselfandthe

Community,foralloftheworktheydo.GeorgeaskedthatitbeminutedthattheCommunityCouncilwerehardworkingandsuccessful.HewishedtorecogniseTony’seffortsonbehalfofthecommunity,bothinpublicandbehindthescenes.GeorgewantedTonyandtheCommitteetoknowthatheandthecommunityappreciatedtheeffortsmadeontheirbehalf.

GeorgethensteppeddownandhandedtheChairovertoTony. TonythankedGeorgeandcontinuedwiththeelectionofViceConvenor. BarrieMortonnominatedPatrickTrustforthepost.BobMurraysecondedtheproposal. Patrickacceptedthepost. Tonyaskedalloftheofficebearersiftheywerepreparedtoremaininpost.Ericresignedfromhis

postinplanning,Alloftheotherofficebearersaccepted.TonysaidthatthePlanningpostwouldbediscussedatthenextCommunityCouncilMeeting.

Datesfor ThedatesfortheforthcomingCardrossCommunityCouncilMeetingsareasfollows:-Forthcoming 18May2015,15June2015,17August2015,21September2015,19October2015,Meetings: 16November2015,18January2016,15February2016,21March2016,AGM18April2016. AllmeetingswillbeheldintheGeilstonHallat8:00pmwiththeexceptionoftheAGMwhich startsat7:30pm..

3ANYOTHERCOMPETENTBUSINESSPoliceReport: Tonysaidthatanumberofincidentshadoccurredinthevillagesince15March.On23Marcha 21yearoldfemalewasarrestedformresettingamotorvehicle.On31Marchtherewasatheft FromagarageonFerryRoad.On11ApriltherewasatheftofamotorvehicleOn12Aprilthere wasanassaultinthevicinityofthepharmacy.On14Apriltherewasvandalismataproperty onthemainroad.On19Apriltherewaswilfulfireraisingofavehicleonthemainroad. AlloftheincidentsareongoingandsomehavebeenreportedtotheProcuratorFiscal.Resilience TonysaidthattheplanpreparedbytheCommunityCouncil,wasrecentlyputtothetestbyPlan: theLocalAuthority.Theplanpassedthistestsuccessfully.EstateAgent Bobsaidthathehadmentionedtheproblemoftheproliferationofthesesigns,atourlastSigns: meeting.CouncillorDavidKinniburghhadsaidthathewouldinvestigatethematter.He ContactedTonytosaythathewillbringareporttothenextmeeting.RailwayHorn MikesaidthathehadcontactedNetworkRailandbeenreferredtoScotrail.MikewastoldWarning: thatthecasewouldbeinvestigatedandtheywillcomebacktohiminthenext2weeks.TheGeilston PatricksaidthatanincidenthadoccurredinSeptember2010whenaconsiderableamountofHall: moneywasfoundtobemissingfromtheHall’saccounts.TheTreasureratthetimeresigned. Ithastakenaverylongtimetoinvestigatethematter.Thematterhasnowcometoaconclusion. TheHallisnowinasteadyandsuccessfulfinancialstate.JACKIEBAILLIEMSPPolicestations JackiesaidthatshewasquitestunnedtohearthenumberofincidentsinTony’spolicereport.andmergers: PoliceBoardshavenowbeenmergedintoasingleforceknownasPoliceScotland. TheviewofthecurrentScottishGovernmentwasthatamergermaybejustifiedifitsavedmoney. Thefeelingwasthatanymergershouldimprovelocalpolicing. JackiesaidthatwhatwearefacingnowisquitearbitrarypolicemergersthatParliamentdiscovered byaccident.PoliceScotlandwereNOTintentinpublicconsultation.Thesignificanceintermsofour localarea,isstartingtounfold.TheywanttomergeKDivisionwithLDivision.Thiswouldmerge PaisleywithDumbarton,stretchingfromClydebanktoOban.Itwouldcreateasinglepolicingunit ofabout3000squaremiles,withapopulationofabout450thousandpeople.Jackiesaidthatour historyislitteredwithproposalsthatseeNorthoftheRiverClydeandSouthoftheRiverClyde mergingandcomingtogether.Suchmergershavenotworkedforusinthepast.Jackiesought guaranteesaboutlocalpolicing.Whattheysaidwasthattheywouldmerge,stripoutawholebunch ofchiefsuperintendents,chiefInspectorsandseniormanagers,tobereplacedwithofficersonthe beat.TheyweresilentaboutDumbartonHeadquartersbutitwasdiscoveredthattheywantto

movetheheadquarterstoPaisley.However,thelocalplanforDumbartonshowedthattheDumbartonPoliceHeadquarterswasdesignatedforhousing.PoliceScotlandhavenotsaidwherethosepolicingDumbartonwillbemarshalledfromdaytoday.

ItappearsthatPoliceScotlandhavenotthoughtabouttheneedforanofficeinDumbarton. Aboutoneyearago,therewasapublicconsultationontheopeninghoursforpoliceoffices. Helensburghhadopeninghoursreduced.AlexandriawastocloseandjoinwiththwCouncil Ina“onestopshop”,whilereducingopeninghours.Dumbarton’sopeninghourswerealsoreduced. HelensburghPoliceStationdoesNOTkeeptotheshorteropeninghours.FromFriday10April,it wasclosedfortheweekend. CrimeinWestDumbartonshireisthefourthhighestoutsideourcities.Therefore,we needlocalpolicing.AcampaignhasbeenstartedtoretainlocalpolicinginDumbarton. TransferringtheheadquarterstoPaisley,simplydoesnotwork.Weneedlocalpolicinginourlocal communitiesthatisvisible.IfONEchiefsuperintendentpostisremoved,thiswouldreleasesalaries

forFOURbeatofficers.Itwouldappeartobeanattemptatacostsavingexercise. Theseproposalshavenotyetbeenimplemented.Jackiesaidthataswellasbeingvisitedbyretired policeofficerswithconcernsabouttheseproposals,sheisreceivingvisitsfromofficerswhoare currentlyservingandaresayingthattheseproposalsarenonsense. Ourhistorytellsusthatasyoumoveparticularservices,youarepromisedaviablealternative,then

thesepromisesarebroken.Thealternativeisnotdelivered.

4 Locally,wearelosingcivilianpolicestaffandtheirworkisbeingdonebyuniformedpolice. Theseofficersarenotthereforeavailablefor“beatduties”.ThecampaignforlocalpolicingIs

continuing.NHSandthe Jackiesaidthatwearegoingthroughyetanotherreorganisationofhealthservices.JackiesaidValeHospital: thatsheseesthisasanopportunityforthecommunity.WehaveEurope’slargesthospitalin TheSouthernGeneral,abouttogolive.Asyet,therequiredstaffinglevelshavenotbeenmet. Itisbeingsuggestedthatthenewhospitalisnotbigenoughforitsproposedcatchmentarea. ThereislikelytobeadditionalpressurefrompatientschoosingtocomefromPaisley. TheRoyalAlexandriaHospitalis5minutesawayfromthenewhospital.Itdoesnotmakesenseto haveAandEunitsinbothhospitalswhentheyaresoclose.PressureontheRAHisimmense. GreaterGlasgowandClydeHealthBoardhaverealisedthattheconfigurationofservicessouth oftheriver,doesnotmakesense.Theyarelookingatthepossibilityofprovidingservicesnorthof theriver.JackiesaidthatisaboutbuildingonwhatwehaveattheValeofLevenHospital. ThebulkofourcommunitytraveltotheRAHforsignificantemergencyandsurgicalservices. Theseservicesshouldbebroughtbacknorthoftheriver.TheGoldenJubileeHospitaloffers suchanopportunity.TheproblemisthattheGJHisunderadifferentHealthBoard.

GreaterGlasgowandClydeHealthBoardhasappliedforfundingfromtheScottishGovernmenttobringthehospitaluptotherequiredstandardtoprovidefullAandEservices.Theyareawaitingareplytotheirrequest.Jackiesaidthatwearecloserthanwehaveeverbeentoprovidingabettersolution.

RailwayNoise: Jackiesaidthatthematterhadbeenraisedwithherin2006.Theproblematthetimewas,that becauseofthelevelcrossingandbecauseofhealthandsafetyissues,thetrainswhistleswere changedtohorns.Thehornsseemedtopenetratemorethanthewhistles. Areporthasbeenpublishedwhichrecommendsstepstoreducetheimpactoftrainhorns. JackiesaidthatherofficehavewrittentoAbellio,thenewoperators.Shehasaskedwhat recommendationshavebeenadoptedfromthereportandwouldtheymeetwiththecommunity JackiesaidthatshehopedtoprovidetheirresponseintimefortheCommunityCouncilmeetingin May. TonythankedJackieforattendingthemeetingtonight.DATEOFNEXTMEETING ThenextmeetingheldonMonday18May2015at8.00pminthe GeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstoGeorgeMurphyandtheChair.

CARDROSS  COMMUNITY  COUNCIL  MEETING  

HELD  IN  THE  GEILSTON  HALL  

ON  MONDAY  17  May  2015  

AT  8.00  P.M.  

 

 

WELCOME    

The  Chair  welcomed  the  committee,  the  Councillors,  1  Representative  from  SGN  (Gas  Services)  James  Harkin  (Site  Manager),Norman  Brunton  (  Helensburgh  Community  Council)  and  7  members  of  the  public.    He  reminded  all  present  that  the  meeting  is  recorded  for  the  purpose  of  taking  minutes.  After  approval  of  the  minutes,  the  recording  is  destroyed.      PRESENT    Tony  Davey  (Convener),  Patrick  Trust  (Vice  Convener),  Gail  Steven  (Treasurer),  Bobbie  Beggs,  Jo  Cameron,  Mike    Crowe,  Eric  Duncan,  Jim  Hollywood  ,  Barrie  Morton,  Bob  Murray,  Councillor  David  Kinniburgh,  Councillor  Richard  Trail,  James  Harkin,    Norman  Brunton  and  7  members  of  the  public.      APOLOGIES      Lorna  Lee,  Andrea  Steele  McLean,  Duncan  Stirling  (Secretary),  Councillor  Ellen  Morton  and  Michael  Wilson.      DECLARATIONS  OF  INTEREST    None.      POLICE  REPORT    Tony  said  that  a  number  of  incidents  had  occurred  in  the  village  since  16  March.  On  21  April  there  was  wilful  fire  raising  at  a  derelict  property  on  Carman  Road.  Two  14  year  old  males  have  been  reported  for  the  offence.  On  23  April,  a  quad  bike  and  trailer  were  stolen  from  Cairniedrouth  Farm.  On  3  May,  a  46  year  old  male  was    reported  for  fishing  sea  trout  and  salmon  on  the  foreshore,  on  a  Sunday.      SGN  REPORT    James  Harkin  said  there  are  two  sections  to  the  work  on  the  main  street.  The  first  section  was  started  beyond  Ferry  Road  to  the  “dead  end  “  section  at  Bainfield.  That  has  now  been  completed.  The  second  section  goes  over  Moore’s  Bridge  to  the  Coach  House  Inn.  SGN  is  working  on  that  section  now.  Work  has  sarted  in  the  Park  Terrace  area  and  will  be  ongoing  while  work  proceeds  on  Main  Road.  Approximately  500m  of  new  pipe  has  been  laid  and  400m  has  been  abandoned.  James  asked  for  any  problems.  Bob  Murray  said  that  there  was  no  indication  of  the  roadworks  on  the  Traffic  Scotland  website.  James  said  that  they  had  been  informed  but  contractors  have  no    control  over  what  Traffic  Scotland  choose  to  publicise.  Jo  said  that  with  the  advent  of  the  Bank  Holiday,  a  sign  at  Milton  could  be  useful,  if  it    suggested  an  alternative  to  using  Cardross.  Ther  were  no  further  questions.  Tony  thanked  James,  who  then  left  the  meeting.      MINUTES  OF  MEETING  HELD  BY  CARDROSS  COMMUNITY  COUNCIL  ON  16    MARCH  2015    Acceptance  was  proposed  by  Patrick  Trust    and  seconded  by  Bob  Murray.    

2    MATTERS  ARISING    Roadworks:   The  matter  was  addressed  by  SGN  tonight.      Saw  Mill:   Tony  said  that  the  matter  is  still  with  the  Planning  Department.    Culvert  at   Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  the  Council  has  approved  the  application.    Saw  Mill:    

.  Broadband:   Patrick  said  that  superfast  broadband  is  not  available  to  him  because  he  is  too  far  away     from  a  “green  box”.    Waste  Bin   Councillor  Trail  said  that  he  will  chase  the  matter  up.    at  Barrs  Road:    Flooding  at   Tony  said  that  any  problems  of  odours  around  the  property,  should  be  dealt  with  by  Cerarwood     the  owners  of  the  property.      Court:    Darleith  Rd.   Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  the  roads  staff  are  looking  at  a  permanent  solution  to  the    A814  Junction:   problem.      Estate  Agent     Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  most  of  the  signs  have  been  removed.  Signs:    Beach  Clean:   Tony  thanked  Gail  and  Bob  for  organising  the  recent  beach  clean.    Use  of  Horns     Tony  reminded  the  meeting  that  Mr.  Fleming  had  raised  the  matter.  Tony  said  that  On  Railways:     Mike  Crowe  has  pursued  the  matter  on  behalf  of  the  Community  Council.  Tony  said  that     we  have  made  representation  to  the  Local  Authority,  the  Local  MP  and  the  local  MSP.     We  have  exhausted  the  powers  of  the  Community  Council  regarding  the  matter.     Rail  agencies  have  said  that  the  Horn  Warnings  are  in  accordance  with  statute.  The  Community     Council  has  exhausted  all  avenues  open  to  it,  in  following  up  Mr.  Flemings  complaint.       Mike  said  that  from  the  feed-­‐back  he  had  received,  the  majority  of  people  did  not  feel  that     the  noise  is  an  issue  for  the  majority  of  people.  Jo  said  that  after  canvasing  30  people  who  stay     in  the  same  area  as  Mr.  Fleming,  one  complained  about  the  problem.  The  others  were  

unconcerned.     Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  if  it  is  the  wish  of  the  Community,  the  Local  Authority  could  carry       out  a  “Noise  Survey”.  Tony  asked  members  present  if  a  survey  should  be  carried  out.  9  said  no.     1  said  yes.  Based  on  these  results  and  those  canvased,  it  was  agreed  by  members  present,     not  to  request  the  Local  Aouthority  to  carry  out  a  Noise  Survey.      CORRESPONDENCE       There  was  no  correspondence  form  Tony  or  Duncan.      PLANNING   Bobby  said  that  there  have  been  no  applications  this  month.  Tony  said  that  a  recent  application  

for  the  erection  of  a  flagpole  at  a  property  in  Bainfield,  is  causing  concern  locally.  It  is  not  clear  from  the  information  available,  if  the  pole  is  to  be  at  the  front  or  the  rear  of  the  property.  Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  he  will  check  with  Planning.  

   HEALTH   Patrick  said  there  is  nothing  new  to  report  apart  from  the  up  to  date  figures  from  the    the     Vale  of  Leven  Hospital.  The  VOL  Unscheduled  Care  saw  21,000  people  with  minor  injuries,  last       year.  Tere  were  68,0000  attendances  at  Paisley  in  the  same  year.  Patrick  said  that  the  figure  of     21,000  at  the  Vale  is  very  significant.  We  need  to  retain  these  services  at  the  Vale.  

   

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 AOCB   Tony  said  there  is  concern  at  the  state  of  the  local  station.  It  is  the  responsibility  of       Network  Rail.  Scotrail  funded  the  re-­‐barking  of  the  area  near  the  car  park  at  a  cost  of  £1000.     Argyll  and  Bute  have  provided  a  cheque  for  £703,  after  receiving  the  minutes  of     our  AGM.  For  the  third  year  running  this  is  an  additional  figure  of  £203  over  the  usual  grant  of  

£500.     NVA  are  holding  a  an  open  night  in  the  Geilston  Hall  tomorrow  regarding  the  progress  of     St  Peters  College  at  Kilmahew.    Barrs  Road   Jim  said  that  the  footway  at  this  junction  has  degraded  completely.  No  repairs  have  been  Kirkton  Terr.                  carried  out.  Tony  said  he  will  bring  the  matter  to  the  attention  of  Roads  Maintenance.  Junction:    Coachhouse   Patrick  said  that  a  member  of  the  community  is  concerned  about  the  work  going  on.  Inn:   There  is  a  new  fence  and  decking.  They  did  not  know  if  planning  permission  is  required.     Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  he  will  find  out  if  permission  is  required.      Taxis  for  the   Patrick  said  that  a  second  member  of  the  community  had  asked  about  taxis  for  the  disabled.  Disabled:   There  are  a  large  number  of  taxis  for  the  disabled  in  Dumbarton  but  there  seems  to  be  only  one     In  Helensburgh.  This  is  quite  a  problem  for  this  disabled  villager.     Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  the  matter  has  been  raised  in  Council  and  is  on  the  Agenda.      PUBLIC  QUESTION  TIME    Parking   A  member  of  the  public  asked  why  Lochgilphead  is  excluded  from  the  need  to  pay  parking  Charges:   charges.  Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  parking  charges  throughout  Argyll  and  Bute  are  being     investigated  by  the  Council.        MACMILLAN  CANCER  IN-­‐PATIENT  AND  SUPPORT  SERVICE       Deirdre  Henderson  said  that  she  works  for  Argyll  and  Bute  Council  Library  Service.  Deirdre     said  that  a  Macmillan  Cancer  In-­‐Patient  Service  will  open  in  Helensburgh  Library  in  September.     The  service  is  managed  by  4  different  agencies.  It  is  a  non-­‐clinical  service.  The  service  is  recruiting     for  volunteers  to  run  a  once  a  week  drop  in.  It  will  provide  emotional  support  ,  good  quality       information  and  a  sign  post  to  special  services  not  provided  in  the  library.     There  will  be  a  consultation  day  in  Helensburgh  Library,  tomorrow  between  11.00  and  18.30.     There  are  leaflets  on  common  cancers,  chemotherapy,  radiotherapy,  cancer  with  heart       problems,  talking  to  children  about  cancer,  removing  the  stigma  of  talking  about  cancer,     coping  with  fatigue,  people  affected  by  cancer  (other  than  the  sufferer),  carers  for  cancer     patients  and  managing  money.  The  service  provides  a  free  help  line.    There  are  leaflets  on     preparing  for  the  end  of  life,  power  of  attorney  and  wills,  and  surviving  cancer.       Deirdre  said  that  Macmillan  Cancer  is  about  people  being  more  active  and  there  are  leaflets     available  covering  recommended  activities.  Deirdre  said  all  of  the  leaflets  are  available  on-­‐line.     Tony  thanked  Deirdre  for  her  excellent  presentation.      DATE  OF  NEXT  MEETING       The  next  meeting  will  be  held  on  Monday  15  June  2015  at  7.30pm  in  the     Geilston  Hall.  The  meeting  closed  with  a  vote  of  thanks  to  the  Chair.  

CARDROSS  COMMUNITY  COUNCIL  MEETING  

HELD  IN  THE  GEILSTON  HALL  

ON  MONDAY  15  June  2015  

AT  8.00  P.M.  

 

 

WELCOME    

The  Chair  welcomed  the  committee,  the  Councillors,  1  Representative  from  SGN  (Gas  Services)  James  Harkin  (Site  Manager),  and  10  members  of  the  public.    He  reminded  all  present  that  the  meeting  is  recorded  for  the  purpose  of  taking  minutes.  After  approval  of  the  minutes,  the  recording  is  destroyed.      PRESENT    Tony  Davey  (Convener),  Patrick  Trust  (Vice  Convener),  Duncan  Stirling  (Secretary),  Jo  Cameron,  Mike  Crowe,    Jim  Hollywood  ,  Lorna  Lee,  Barrie  Morton,  Councillor  David  Kinniburgh,  Councillor  Richard  Trail,  James  Harkin,    Ruth  McClean  (Helensburgh  Advertiser)  and  10  members  of  the  public.      APOLOGIES    Gail  Steven  (Treasurer),  Bobbie  Beggs,  Eric  Duncan,  Bob  Murray,  Andrea  Steele  McLean,  Councillor  Ellen  Morton  George  and  Liz  Murphy  and  Michael  Wilson.      DECLARATIONS  OF  INTEREST    None.      POLICE  REPORT    Tony  said  that    Inspector  Clare  Miller  (Helensburgh)  has  moved  to  Gartcosh.  A  replacement  has  yet  to  be    appointed.  Constable  Andy  Crawford  is  moving  to  another  police  force  in  July.  A  replacement  has  yet  to  be    appointed.    Tony  said  that  a  number  of  incidents  had  occurred  in  the  village  since  19  April.  On  2  June  a  member  of  the  community  was  charged  under  the  Communications  Act.  The  matter  has  been  referred  to  the  Procurator  Fiscal.    On  8  June,  there  was  a  theft  from  Asker  farm.  On  9  June  there  a  domestic  dispute  on  Park  Road.    On  14  June  the    Police    were  investigating  the  report  of  discharge  from  a  fire  arm  around  Cardross.      SGN  REPORT    James  Harkin  said  there  are  two  sections  to  the  work  on  the  main  street.  Tommorow,  the  traffic  lights  will  be  moved  to  just  beyond  the  Station  Road  junction.  The  lights  at  the  Park  Terrace  pedestrian  crossing  will  be  turned  off.  To  date,  900  metres  of  the  work  on  Main  Road,  has  been  completed.  There  is  approximately  400  metres  of  work  remaining  to  be  done.  Work  in  Park  Terrace  should  be  finished  in  the  next  few  weeks.  The  focus  will  then    move  to  Kirkton  Road.  It  is  hoped  that  work  on  Main  Road  will  be  finished  by  the  end  of  July  and  finished  in  the  village  completely  by  the  end  of  August.  Mike  Crow  asked  if  the  gas  would  be  cut  off  in  Kirkton  Road.  James  said  that  the  supply  will  be  off  in  the  morning  and  reconnected  in  the  afternoon.  There  were  no  further  questions  for  James.  Tony  thanked  James  for  his  report  and  James  left  the  meeting.          

2      MINUTES  OF  MEETING  HELD  BY  CARDROSS  COMMUNITY  COUNCIL  ON  17  May  2015    Amendments:     Page  2,  Section  Use  of  Horns  On  Railways.  “Jo  said  that  after  canvasing  30  people  who  stay  in         the  same  area  as  Mr.  Fleming”  should  be  amended  to    “Jo  said  that  after  canvasing  30  people,  

2  of  whom  stay  in  the  same  area  as  Mr.  Fleming”    

Page  3,  paragraph  2  title  should  be  changed  from  Barrs  Road/Kirkton  Terrace  to                             Barrs  Road/Barrs  Terrace.    Acceptance  was  proposed  by  Jim  Hollywood    and  seconded  by  Barrie  Morton.      MATTERS  ARISING    Culvert  at   Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  the  Council  has  approved  the  application.    Saw  Mill:    Waste  Bin   Councillor  Trail  said  that  the  bin  is  in  place  for  a  trial  period  of  3  months.    at  Barrs  Road:   If  the  bin  is  not  used,  it  will  be  taken  away.    Estate  Agent     Tony  said  that  most  of  the  signs  have  been  removed.  Councillor  Kinniburgh  said    Signs:     that  the  Council  will  try  to  take  action  where  required.    Use  of  Horns     Tony  said  that  the  Community  Council  have  exhausted  their  powers  in  the  matter.    On  Railways:     If  Mr.  Fleming  is  happy  to  do  so,  he  must  pursue  the  matter  with  other  agencies.    Flag  pole  at   Tony  said  that  a  new  set  of  neighbourhood  notifications  have  been  issued.  Bainfield:    Barrs  Road/   Tony  said  that  he  has  been  unable  to  contact  any  of  the  staff  involved  in  repairing  the    Barrs  Terr.     footway  at  this  junction.    He  said  he  will  pursue  the  matter  during  the  summer.  Junction:    Coachhouse   Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  he  has  not  yet  had  any  response  to  his  question  as  to    Inn:     the  need  for  planning  permission  for  the  new  parasols  and  fencing.    Taxis  for  the   Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  the  Council  is  preparing  a  report  on  the  subject.  Disabled:        Darleith  Rd.   Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  the  roads  staff  are  still  looking  at  a  permanent  solution  to  the    A814  Junction:   problem.      CORRESPONDENCE         There  was  no  correspondence  form  Tony  or  Duncan.      PLANNING   Tony  said  that  there  were  no  applications.      HEALTH     Patrick  said  there  is  nothing  new  to  report.                  

3    AOCB        Grass  Cutting:     Mike  asked  if  the  Council  is  prepared    to  cut  the  “green  patch”  owned  by  ACCA  in       Kirkton  Road.  Tony  suggested  that  ACCA  should  deal  with  the  matter.    Dog  Fouling:   Jo  said  that  some  Councils  are  using  “on  the  spot  fines”  for  dog  walkers  who  are  not  carrying       “poo  bags”.  She  asked  if  Argyll  and  Bute  Council  had  considered  such  an  option.       Councillor  Kinniburgh  suggested  that  there  may  be  legal  and  practical  barriers  to  such       a  suggestion.      Pedestrian   Duncan  said  that  the  crossing  near  the  Muirholm  appears  to  be  more  reactive  than  the  one  at      Crossings:   the  post  office.  He  asked  if  this  crossing  could  be  “updated”.  Councillor  Kinniburgh  said  that  he       will  look  into  the  matter.    Knotweed:   Patrick  said  that  he  would  like  to  congratulate  Willie  Laird  on  successfully  dealing  with  local       knotweed.  The  knotweed  that  was  getting  close  to  the  village  has  been  exterminated.      PUBLIC  QUESTION  TIME       There  were  no  questions.        DATE  OF  NEXT  MEETING       The  next  meeting  will  be  held  on  Monday  17  August  2015  at  7.30pm  in  the     Geilston  Hall.  The  meeting  closed  with  a  vote  of  thanks  to  the  Chair.  

CARDROSS  COMMUNITY  COUNCIL  SPECIAL  MEETING  

HELD  IN  THE  GEILSTON  HALL  

ON  MONDAY  13  July  2015  

AT  8.00  P.M.  

 

 

WELCOME    

The  Chair  welcomed  the  committee,  and  10  members  of  the  public.  He  reminded  all  present  that  the  meeting  is  recorded  for  the  purpose  of  taking  minutes.  After  approval  of  the  minutes,  the  recording  is  destroyed.      PRESENT    Tony  Davey  (Convener),  Patrick  Trust  (Vice  Convener),  Duncan  Stirling  (Secretary),  Bobby  Beggs,  Jo  Cameron,  Mike  Crowe,  Jim  Hollywood  ,  Lorna  Lee,  Andrea  Steele  McLean,  Barrie  Morton,  Bob  Murray  and  10  members  of  the    public.      APOLOGIES    Gail  Steven  (Treasurer)  and  Eric  Duncan.      DECLARATIONS  OF  INTEREST    None.      PLANNING  APPLICATION  FOR  HOUSING  AT  KIRKTON  FARM      Tony  said  that  he  had  called  the  meeting  to  discuss  the  planning  application  made  on  behalf  of  AVANT  HOMES.    Tony  said  that  the  consultation  documents  relating  to  the  application  are  available  in  the  post  office  and  on-­‐line.  Representations  should  be  with  the  Local  Authority  by  21  July  2015.  Tony  said  that  he  will  request  an  extension  until  to  28  July.  Copies  of  the  application  were  made  available  for  the  meeting  tonight.  Tony  said  that  one  part  of  the  documentation  referred  to  160  houses,  another  referred  to  140  houses  and  yet    another  referred  to  130.  There  are  no  details  on  housing  types.    While  the  developer  has  a  right  to  submit  a  PROVISIONAL  PLANNING  PROPOSAL,  such  an  application  has  very  little  detail.  Tony  said  that  he  would  like  to  set  up  a  sub-­‐group  to  formulate  a  submit  ion  to  Argyll  and  Bute  Council.  The  meeting  was  then  adjourned  for  30  minutes  to  allow  those  present  to  view  the  plans  of  the  proposal.    The  meeting  re-­‐convened.  Tony  asked  the  Council  members  for  any  comments.  Bobby  said  that  the  water  pressure  to  his  house  is  poor.  Additional  housing  will  worsen  this  situation  unless  the  water  supply  is  improved.  Andrea  said  that  in  her  view,  the  school,  Darlieth  Road,  sewerage  and  drainage  and  other  services  will  not  be  able  to  cope  with  an  additional  140  house.  They  need  to  be  upgraded.  Lorna  said  she  had  the  same  concerns  as  Bobby  and  Andrea.  Barrie  said  that  the  area  was  earmarked  for  housing  more  than  35  years  ago.  The  number  of  cars  per  household  have  increased.  This  could  be  a  problem.  An  Argyll  and  Bute  spokesperson  said  that  any  sewerage  problems  resulting  from  the  construction  of  new  housing,  would  be  dealt  with  by  the  Developer.  Mike  suggested  that  because  of  the  amount  of  pedestrian  traffic  on  Darlieth  Road,  access  to  the  new  housing  should  be  taken  from  Barrs  Road.  It  appears  that  the  Developer  may  be  trying  to  reduce  the  amount  of  social  housing  available.  Mike  is  concerned  that  the  road  design  within  the  development  will  lead  to  conflict  between  pedestrians  and  vehicular  traffic.    

2    Jo  said  that  she  agreed  with  Andrea’s  comments.  Jo  is  also  concerned  about  the  trustworthiness  of  Developers.  Bob  said  that  the  proposals  seem  to  indicate  a  much  greater  housing  density  than  is  supposedly  allowed  by  Argyll  and  Bute  Council.  Jim  said  that  he  agreed  with  previous  comments.  He  is  concerned  that  existing  amenities  will  not  cope.    Patrick  said  that  he  is  particularly  concerned  about  possible  flooding.  Proposals  appear  to  indicate  that  Darlieth  Road,  Barrs  Road  and  the  school  playing  field  will  be  flooded.  The  existing  sewerage  infrastructure  cannot  cope    with  the  existing  demand.  The  infrastructure  should  be  improved  to  accommodate  the  additional  houses.  Duncan  said  that  he  agreed  with  previous  comments.  He  is  concerned  that  Darleith    Road  is  not  being  brought  up  to  current  standards.  The  part  of  Darlieth  Road  accessing  the  new  housing  should  be  (at  least)  the  same  standard  as  that  section  of  Darlieth  Road  which  accesses  the  houses  between  the  A814  and  Mill  Road.  Tony  thanked  the  councillors  and  members  of  the  public  for  attending.      DATE  OF  NEXT  MEETING    A  meeting  of  the  Sub-­‐Committee  will  be  held  on  Monday  20  July  2015  at  8.00pm  in  the  Geilston  Hall.  The  meeting  closed  with  a  vote  of  thanks  to  the  Chair.  

CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILSUB_GROUPMEETING

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY20July2015

AT8.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthemembersofthesub-committeePRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),BobbyBeggs,MikeCrowe,BarrieMorton,BobMurrayandEricDuncan.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.RESPONSETOPROVISIONALPLANNINGAPPLICATIONFORHOUSINGATKIRKTONFARMTonysaidthathehadcalledthemeetinginordertoformulatearesponsefromCardrossCommunityCounciltotheProvisionalPlanningApplicationfortheerectionofhousesatKirktonFarm.Tonysaidthatheproposedarrangingtheresponseunder6subheadingsandaskingmemberspresenttocommentoneach.Thesubheadingsarelistedbelowwithcomments.RoadsBobsaidthathehadasubmissionfromGordonHenry(aRoadsEngineer),sayingthatDarleithRoadwillnotcopeadequatelywiththeproposeddevelopment.Thealterationsproposedintheapplication,donotimprovetheroad.Thealignmentoftheroadhasnotchangedsince1865.Thegeometryoftheroaddoesnotcomplywithcurrentdesignstandards.TheNationalRoadDevelopmentGuidestatesthattheexistingroadnetworkmustbecapableofcopingwithexistingandincreasedtrafficduetoanydevelopment.DarleithRoaddoesnotsatisfythisrequirement.Inthelowersectionoftheroad,itis5.5metreswidewitha1.5metrefootway.BetweenMillRoadandtheaccesstothenewdevelopment,thewidthvariesbetween5.2metresand4.5metreswithnopedestrianprovisionthroughoutthislength.ThereisNOpedestrianprovisionthroughoutthislength.ThereisnovergeontheEastside.ThevergeontheWestsidevariesbetween1.5metresand0.6metresandiscurrentlyunsuitableforusebypedestrians.Theroadissharedbypedestriansandvehiculartraffic.Theproposalsarelikelytoincreaseconflictbetweenthetwo.TheproposedvisibilityrequirementsattheMillRoadjunctiondonotmeetcurrentstandards.OntheLocalDevelopmentPlan,theproposedhousingareawasaccessedfromDarleithRoadonly.TheseproposalsshowanadditionalaccessfromBarrsRoad.BarriesaidthathehadbroughtupthematterofthelackoffootpathbeyondMillRoadonpreviousoccasions.MikesaidthatDarleithRoadshouldnotbethemainaccessroute.BarrsRoadisabetteroption.Hesaidthathepreferredakerbedroadwithinthedevelopmentinsteadoftheproposedsharedspace.Ericsaidhedisagreedwiththatproposal.Inhisview,trafficshouldnotbedirectedthroughahousingestate.Itshouldberoutedfromthenewhouses,directlyontothemainroad.Hesaidthattheproposedsharedspacebetweenpedestriansandvehicles,withinthedevelopmentallowspedestriansto“reclaim”theroadspace.Inhisexperience,itworkswell.

2DuncansaidthatDarleithRoadisthebetteroptionandshouldbebroughtuptocurrentstandardsbetweenMillRoadandthenewdevelopment.BobbysaidthathewasconcernedthatchildrenfromthenewhouseswouldbemixingwiththetrafficonDarleithRoad.Thisisdangerous.SchoolsMikesaidthatheisconcernedthattheexistingschoolcapacitywillnotcopewiththenumbersgeneratedby136newhouses.Thesiteoftheproposedhousingpreventsexpansionoftheschool.Tonysaidthatatthepreparationofthelocalplan,ArgyllandButesaidthatifadditionalhousingresultedinthecapacityoftheschoolbeingexceeded,itwouldbeamatterfortheDeveloperandtheCounciltoresolve.WhenTonytalkedtotheDeveloperpromotingtheseproposals,theDevelopersaid“webuildhouses,notschools”.PrivateHousingTonysaidthatiftheLocalAuthorityhadconsideredtheobjectionstheywouldreceivetospecificareasofsearch,theycouldhavechosenmorewisely.Hesaidthatthelackofdetailintheproposalmakesitdifficulttocommentonthehousingproposals.BobsaidthatitiswrongthateachLocalAuthorityhastosubmithousingneeds,insteadofconsideringtheneedsoftheCountryasawhole.Hesaidthatwhilethereisalackofdetailintheproposal,itispossibletocommentontheproposeddensityofthehousing.Theproposeddensityisnearlytwicethatofadjacenthousing.Ericsaidthathewouldliketoseemoreoneandtwobedroomhousewithinthedevelopment.Mikesaidthatheishappywiththehigherdensityofhousing.Heagreedthereshouldbemoreoneandtwobedroomhouses.SocialHousingEricsaidthatiftheDeveloperwasgoingtophasehousebuildingoveraperiodoffiveyears,therequiredpercentageofSocialHousingshouldbeappliedtoeach“group”ofhousessoldbytheDeveloper.Drainage/FloodingTonysaidthatconsideringtherearealreadyfloodingproblemsaroundthevillage,heisconcernedthatthehousingproposalswilladdtotheseproblems.Ericsaidthathardsurfaceswithintheproposeddevelopmentwilladdtotheproblemsof“runoff”experiencedbytheexistingdrainagesystem.MikesaidthatSEPAhadidentifiedamediumriskofsurfacewaterfloodingfromtheproposal.ItisforArgyllandButeCounciltoconfirmthattheproposeddrainageiscorrectlysized.ThisshouldbedonebyconsultingtherelevantAuthority.SewageBarriesaidthatthesewerstopsatGreyfriarsonDarleithRoad.

3SubmissiontoArgyllandButeonbehalfoftheCommunityCouncilBobsaidthathewouldincludecommentsmadeabove,inthesubmissiontotheCouncil.HesaidhewouldacknowledgethatthisisaProvisionalPlanningApplicationandweretaintherighttocommentontheFinalPlanningApplication.Bobsaidthathewouldcompilethesubmissionandcirculateadrafttothosepresent.AnyamendmentswillbeincludedbeforethesubmissionissenttoArgyllandButeCouncil.DATEOFNEXTMEETINGAmeetingoftheCommunityCouncilwillbeheldonMonday16August2015at8.00pmintheGeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.

CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY21September2015

AT8.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthecommittee,theCouncillorand9membersofthepublic.Heremindedallpresentthatthemeetingisrecordedforthepurposeoftakingminutes.Afterapprovaloftheminutes,therecordingisdestroyed.TonyapologisedtoanyonewhoturnedupfortheAugustmeeting.Themeetingwascancelledithadnotbeenpossibletogetaquorumofcouncilmembers.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),PatrickTrust(ViceConvener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),GailSteven(Treasurer),BobbyBeggs,JoCameron,MikeCrowe,EricDuncan,JimHollywood,LornaLee,BarrieMorton,BobMurray,CouncillorDavidKinniburgh,and9membersofthepublic.APOLOGIESAndreaSteeleMcLean,CouncillorEllenMorton,CouncillorRichardTrail,ColinandJillCampbellandMichaelWilson.TonysaidthatAndreahadsubmittedherresignationfromtheCommunityCouncilandherresignationhasbeenaccepted.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.POLICEREPORTTonysaidthathehadameetingwiththenewInspectorfortheArea,InspectorColeenWylie.PCAllisonKanehastakenoverfromAndyCrawford.TonysaidthatanumberofincidentshadoccurredinthevillagesinceJuly.AmalepersonwasarrestedinParkTerraceforthreateningbehaviourandbeinginpossessionofaweapon.On12Julytherewasvandalismatthegolfclub.TherewasadisturbanceonMainRoadandamalepersonhasbeenreportedtotheProcuratorFiscal.Onthe15JulytherewereanumberofcasesofvandalismonMainRoad.Apropertyforsalesignwasstolen.On3Augustthereawheeliebinwassetonfire.Between13and15AugusttherewashousebreakingonReayAvenue.OnSeptember,anenginewasstolenfromaninsecuregarageonHillsideAvenue.Enquiriescontinue.On11September,therewasadisturbanceonBarrsCrescent.AmalepersonhasbeenreportedtotheProcuratorFiscal.On13September,AmalepersonwasbehavinginathreateningmannerandhasbeenreportedtotheProcuratorFiscal.On19September,therewastheftofsilverwarefromtheCalaEstate.SGNREPORTTonysaidthatarepresentativefromSGNwouldattendtheOctobermeeting,whenitishopedthattheirworkwillbecomplete.

2MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON15June2015AcceptancewasproposedbyMikeCrowandsecondedbyPatrickTrust.MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON13July2015AcceptancewasproposedbyBobbyBeggsandsecondedbyMikeCrow.MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON20July2015AcceptancewasproposedbyBarrieMortonandsecondedbyMikeCrow.MATTERSARISINGMeetingsof Thesemeetingswereheldtodiscusstheplanningapplicationsubmittedfor 13and20July: forhousingatKirktonFarm.Timberat CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattheCouncilhasissuedanenforcementnoticeinParkaccess relationtothepalletsthathavebeenputinthepublicareabyCardrossSawmillnearStation: Gailsaidthatanumberofresidentshaveraisedconcernswithher.Theyareworriedthatthe SawMillisattemptingto“takeover”theareaadjacenttotheparkandpreventpublicaccess. Mikesuggestedthatwefindoutwhothelandownersareintheareaaffected.EstateAgent Tonysaidthatthesignshadstartedto“creep”backagain.GailsaidthatasignhasbeenSigns: lyinginPeelStreetforweeks.Bobsaidthatthereisasigntiedontoalamppostin

MuirendRoad.Bobsaidthatthesesignsareinfact,litter.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattheCouncilwilltrytotakeactionwhererequired.

UseofHorns TonysaidthattheCommunityCouncilhaveexhaustedtheirpowersinthematter.OnRailways: IfMr.Flemingishappytodoso,hemustpursuethematterwithotheragencies.Coachhouse CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathehasnotyethadanyresponsetohisquestionastoInn: theneedforplanningpermissionforthenewparasolsandfencing.Taxisforthe CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattheCouncilispreparingareportonthesubject.Disabled: ApapershouldbepresentedtothePlanningCommitteebyNovember2015.GrassCutting: MikeaskediftheCouncilispreparedtocutthe“greenpatch”ownedbyACHAinKirktonRd: KirktonRoad.TonysuggestedthatACHAshoulddealwiththematterPedestrian CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatheisstillawaitingareplytohisqueryregardingCrossings: thecrossingsattheMuirholmandnearthepostoffice.Overflow Jimsaidthatthenewlyconstructedparkingareaattheschoolhasnodrainage.Parkingat Rainwaterfromthearearunsontothefootwayandfloodstheroadsintheimmediatevicinity.School: CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewilllookintothematter.Grittingon Lornasaidthatverylittlegrittingwascarriedoutlastwinter.SheaskedifitcouldbegivenKirktonRoad: priority,sinceitisaroutetotheschool.Lampsin JoaskedifitwouldbepossibleforthebulbsinthetwolampsnearMainRoadtobePeelStreet: replacedwithbrighterunits.Tonysaidthatthelampsaretheresponsibilityoftheadjacent owners.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewilltrytofindoutwhoisresponsibleforthelighting.

3CORRESPONDENCE TonysaidthathehadreceivedaletterfromColinandJillCampbell.Itexpressedtheirconcern thatRidingSawMillshavetakenovertheareaintheforeshoreadjacenttothepark Tonysaidthathewillrespondtotheletter. TonysaidthattheParishChurchhadaskedifwewouldsupplyatreefortheChristmasTree Festival.ItwasagreedbythosepresentthattheCommunityCouncilwouldsupplyatree. TonysaidthatapproachingRemembranceSunday,Cardrosshasthreepreviousresidentswho wereawardedtheVCaftertheFirstWorldWar.Therewillbethreeplaquesplacedatthewar memorialtocommemoratethisfact. GailSteven(Treasurer)saidthaton25August,thebalanceinthecommunitycouncil’sbank accountwas£1057.84.PLANNING Bobbyysaidthattherewerenoapplications.HEALTH PatricksaidtheLomondPatientsGrouphasbeenveryactive.TheGroupseemstohaveavoided acrisisintheValeofLevenHospital.JackieBailieinvitedShonaRobisonMSP(CabinetSecretary forHealth,WellbeingandSport)tovisittheVale.ShonaisstronglysupportingtheVale.Dr.Nick DunnhasmadeasubmissiontotheScottishGovernmentrelatingtooutofhoursmedicalcarein Scotland.TheHealthBoardhasbecomemuchmoresupportiveoftheactivitiesattheVale. ItseemslikelythattheValeandits’24hourservices,willcontinue.Patricksaidthat,inhisview, theLomondPatientsGrouphasdoneagreatfavourtothepopulationinthisarea.AOCBFinancial TonysaidthathehadaletterfromStellaKinloch,thelocalGuideLeader,requestingsomeAssistance financialassistancetopaypartoftheirhallrent.ToGuides: ItwasdecidedbythemajorityofCommunityCouncilmemberspresent,thatadonationof £100.00shouldbegiventotheGuides.Itwasalsoagreedthat£100.00shouldbegiventothe ScoutGroup. ChurchBench: TheMuirfamilyofthevillagemadeanapplicationtotheChurch,toplaceabenchinthe grounds,inmemoryofMrs.Muir.TheChurchdeclinedtheoffer.Itwassuggestedthatthe CommunityCouncilcouldacceptthebenchandputitatthewarmemorial.Tonysaidthatheis awaitingaletterregardingthebench.SaltBins: Tonysaidwherenecessary,theCouncilwillreplacedamagedsaltbins.Weeds: TonysaidthattheCouncilhasagreedtocarryoutmoreweedkillingonroadsandfootways.Village Theyoungladwhowastidyingaroundthevillage,hasreturnedtothevillage.ItishopedhisWarden: effortswillresultinatidiervillage.Remembrance Tonyaskedthosepresentifheshouldsubmitanapplicationtoholdtheparade.ItwasagreedDayParade: bythemajorityofCommunityCouncilMemberspresent,thatheshould.PowerLine BobsaidthatthetrackswhichhavebeenconstructedtogiveaccesstothepylonsbeingTracks: erected,havenotbeenremoved.Theassumptionwasthatthesetemporarytrackswouldbe removedoncompletionoftheWorks.Bobsaidthattracksrequiredplanningconsentif landownerswantedthemtoremain.HeaskedCouncillorKinniburghifanyapplicationshad beensubmitted.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewillpursuethematter.Stairsfrom Ericsaidthatthesestairsareinapoorcondition.HewouldliketoseethemmadegoodandMuirendRoad notcloseddown.TonysaidthathewouldaskTomMurphytohavealookatthem.toNapierAve.:

4BeachClean: GailsaidthattheBeachCleanwilltakeplaceonSaturday24Octoberat10.00.Meetatthe shorecarparkandequipmentwillbeprovided.Bollardat GailsaidthatatrafficbollardoutsidethelibraryhadbeendamagedbyacarandisstillawaitngLibrary: repair.Theattemptedrepairisshoddy.TonysaidthattheCouncilispursuingthedriverofa timberlorrytopayfortherepair.DogWasteBin Bobbyaskedifthebinwillremaininplace.InJune,CouncillorTrailsaidthatthebinisinplaceforatBarrsRoad: atrialperiodof3months.Ifthebinisnotused,itwillbetakenaway.BarrsRoad/ Mikesaidthatthefootwayisinaverypoorstate.Jimsaidthattheroadsurfaceatthejunction,BarrsTerr. isalsobreakingup..TonysaidthatthereisadisputebetweentheWaterDepartmentandtheJunction: ElectricityCompanyabouttheservicesinthearea.TheCouncilwillcontinuetopursuethe matter.CyclePath: Mikeaskedwhatishappeningwiththecyclepath.TonysaidthatCPOsareawaitingprocessing bytheCouncilsLegalDepartment.DogWarden: Josaidthatthereisanewdogwardeninthevillage.Patricksaidthatthegrassareaoutside

GeilstonHalliscoveredindogdirt.Itishopedthewardencanhelp.GeilstonHall: PatricksaidthatOSCAR,thecharityregulator,hasaskedthatmoretrusteesareappointed. Anyoneinthecommunitywouldbewelcomed.PUBLICQUESTIONTIME20MPHlimit GeorgeMurphysaidthathewaspleasedtoseetwopoliceofficersatCarmanRoadJunction,through thisafternoon,monitoringspeeding.OntheA77throughthevillageofMaybole,a20mphspeedCardross: limitisbeingtrialled.Georgesuggestedthata20mphlimitwouldbenefitCardross.Itwas generallyagreedbythemeeting,thatthispossibilityshouldbeinvestigated.Pavement BobsaidtheScottishGovernmentarecurrently,carryingoutaconsultationonthesubject.Parking: Awebsiteisavailabletoallowyoutoregisteryourview.Bobsaidthatthesituationin Cardrossisshocking.DATEOFNEXTMEETING ThenextmeetingwillbeheldonMonday19October2015at7.30pminthe GeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.

CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY21October2015

AT8.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthecommittee,theCouncillorsand18membersofthepublic.Heremindedallpresentthatthemeetingisrecordedforthepurposeoftakingminutes.Afterapprovaloftheminutes,therecordingisdestroyed.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),PatrickTrust(ViceConvener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),BobbyBeggs,JoCameron,MikeCrowe,EricDuncan,JimHollywood,BarrieMorton,BobMurray,CouncillorDavidKinniburgh,CouncillorRichardTrail,and18membersofthepublic.APOLOGIESGailSteven(Treasurer),LornaLee,CouncillorEllenMorton,MichaelWilsonandtheRevMaggieMacAurthur.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON21September2015AcceptancewasproposedbyMikeCroweandsecondedbyBobbyBeggs.POLICEREPORTTonysaidthatanumberofincidentshadoccurredinthevillagesinceAugust.On20SeptembertherewastheftofAn£800roadbicyclefromahouseinBraidAvenue.On28SeptembertherewasahousebreakingonHillsideRoad.Aquantityofjewelleryandcashwasstolen.On14OctoberapursewasstolenfromahouseinDickQuadrant.MATTERSARISINGEstateAgent CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattherearestillsignsouttherebutthenecessaryofficerSigns: hasbeennotifiedandtheissueisbeingdealtwith.Pedestrian CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatthecrossingattheMuirholmisamoreuptodatecrossingCrossings: thantheonenearthepostoffice.Thetimingsforthiscrossingarenowbeingadjusted.

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Grittingon TonysaidthatthematterhasbeenreferredtoCalumRobertson.ThegrittingschedulewillKirktonRoad: beavailablethismonth,online.Lampsin CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattheCouncilisresponsibleforthreeofthelampsinPeelStreetPeelStreet: nearesttheA814.Theselampshavebeencheckedandfoundtobeworking.Thelightfromthem Isbrightenough.Adjacenttreesgrowingaroundtheselampsarereducingtheireffectiveness. CouncillorKinniburghhasaskedofficersifthelandownersresponsibleforthetreescanbemade

totrimthem.PowerLine CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatheisawaitingaresponsefromPlanning.Tracks: Stairsfrom TonysaidthatTomMurphyhadsaidthatthestepswillbe“clearedout”.EricsuggestedMuirendRoad thattheymayneedtobereconstructed.ItwasagreedtoawaitcommentsfromTomMurphy.toNapierAve.:Coachhouse CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatcouncilofficershaveinspectedthepremises.TheythinkthataInn: furtherapplicationforplanningmayberequired.Officersarepursuingthematterandwilltake

thenecessaryaction.Timberat CouncillorKinniburghsaidthataplanningapplicationwassubmittedon14OctobertoallowParkaccess woodtobestoredinthethisarea,remotefromtheSawMill.Ithasstilltobevalidated.nearStation: TheapplicationisnotyetinthepublicdomainDuncansuggestedthatwefindoutwhothe landownersareintheareaaffected.20MPHlimit CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatthelimitisbeingtrialedbytheScottishGovernment,onTrunkthrough Roadsatpresent.Thetrialwillrunfor3years.CouncilsaroundScotlandwillbewatchingtheCardross: outcomewithinterest. Speeding TonysaidthatMr.Mitchellhadsentanemailsayingthathehasgreatconcernaboutthrough thespeedofthetrafficgoingthroughthevillage.TonysaidthatthepolicearemonitoringCardross: this.CORRESPONDENCE

TonysaidthathehadreceivedaletterofresignationfromAndreaSteeleMcLean. Andrea’sresignationwasaccepted. TonysaidthathehadreceivedaletterfromNVA,askingforaletterofcomfortfromthe

CommunityCouncilregardingphase4financefundingfortheirproject.Asyet,therearenotransportmanagementarrangementsinplace.TheCommunityCouncilcannotagreetonon-existentproposalsandcannotsupplyaletterofsupportuntilproposalshavebeenapproved.

TonysaidthathehadreceivedlettersofthanksfromboththeGuideandScoutgroupsfor the£100.00donationfromtheCommunityCouncil.PLANNING Bobbysaidthattherewerenoapplications.HEALTH Patricksaidtherehavenotbeenanynewdevelopmentssincelastmonth

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AOCBCouncil EricsaidthathehadnoticedreportsinthelocalpressannouncingCouncilCuts.TheseCutsand willresultintheclosureofpublictoiletsandareductioningardeningoperations.theCycle Ericaskedif,inthistimeofcuts,willtherestillbemoneyavailablefortheCYCLETRACK.Track: CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatwhenrelatedissuesareresolved,moneywillbefoundforthe CycleTrack.Christmas PatrickremindedthemeetingthatChristmasiscoming!AndrewMacDonaldandhisBandCeilidh: fromFortWilliam,willbeplayingon12DecemberattheGeilstonHall.Ticketsarenowavailable.PUBLICQUESTIONTIMETimberat RichardMcGheesaidthatwhiletheresurfacingworkhastidiedthearea,ithasalsocutofParkaccess thepedestrianaccesstotheparkontheSouthsideofthepumphouse.TonysaidthatsincethenearStation: matterissubjecttoanenforcementorderbyArgyllandButeCouncil,nofurtherdiscussioncan takeplace.NewExam SheenaWainsaidthather14yearolddaughterGrace,wantedtobringtheCommunityCouncil’sSystemat attentiontoaproblemsheishavinginschool.Grace’sstatementappearsasAnnex1includedHermitage withtheseminutes.WhenSheenahadreadoutGrace’sstatement,TonysuggestedthatsheAcademy: discussthematterfurtherwiththetwolocalcouncillorsatthismeeting.TheCouncillorsagreed totakeGrace’sconcerns,toArgyllandButeCouncil.Sheenasuggestedthatinviewof16year

oldsbeingabletovote,theLocalAuthorityConstitutionshouldbechanged.Tonysaidthatwhilethismayhappeninthefuture,wemustbeguidedbytheexistingconstitution.

EricsuggestedthatwesupportGrace’sconcerns.Therewerenoobjectionstohisproposal.Speeding AllanMitchellexpressedhisconcernaboutthenumberofroadaccidentsoccurringbesideonA814 hishouse,neartheCarmanRoadjunction.Tonysaidthattheproblemisbroughtupwiththethrough PoliceandArgyllandBute’sroadengineersonaregularbasis.AroadsofficerisinvestigatingCardross: theproblem.Allanaskedwhatisthetimescalefortheseagenciestodealwiththeproblem. TonysaidthattheCommunityCouncilwillcontinuetolobbythesetwoagencies ontheproblemofspeedingthroughCardross.TonysuggestedthatAllanalsocontinuedto pursuetheproblemwiththeseagenciesandwiththecouncillorspresenttonight. RichardMcGheeaskediftherewerephysicalmeasuresavailabletoslowtrafficgoing throughCardross.Duncansaidthatthereareanumberofphysicaloptionsavailableto

ArgyllandButeCouncil,iftheysochoose.Asimpleexamplewouldbetheuseofroadkerbs tocreatenarrowlanesthroughthevillage.DATEOFNEXTMEETING ThenextmeetingwillbeheldonMonday16November2015at8.00inthe GeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.

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Annex1

GraceWain–StatementofConcern

MynameisGraceWainandIama3rdyearpupilatHermitageAcademyinHelensburgh.

Iwouldliketobringtoyourattentionmythoughtsandconcernsabouttheexamsystematmyschool.

HermitageAcademyhasdecidedtoimplementthenewCurriculumforExcellenceverydifferentlyfrom99%ofalloftheotherschoolsinScotland.

HermitageAcademydoesnotallowustositNational5’s,thereplacementforStandardGrades,infourthyear.InsteadIgostraighttohigherwhichIsitinfifthyearsittingnoexamswhatsoeverinfourthyear.

IwanttositNat5examsinfourthyearliketherestofthekidsinScotlandbecause:

• IamfrightenedthatthefirstexamsthatIwilleversitaremyHighers,fromwhatIhaveheardsittingexamsisseriouslystressfulandthemorepracticeyougettheeasieritbecomes

• IamworriedthatifIfailmyHighersIdon’thavethebackupqualificationsofNat5’stohelpmegetajoboraplaceatcollege.

• Alotofmyteachersaretellingtheclassthatthenewsystemisn’tworkingasbygoingstraighttohigheryouaremissingoutimportantNational5work.ThismeansthatsomeoftheHigherworkisalothardertounderstandaswehaven’tlearntthefoundationswhichiscoveredinNational5.

• IamnotsurewhatIwanttobeyetalongwithmostofmyclassmates.IfIcouldsitNat5’sIcouldtakeeightsubjectsandnotchoosewhatHighersIneedforwhatIwanttobeuntiltheendoffourthyear.WhattheschoolaremakingmedoischoosewhichHigherstotakerightnowwhichseemsunfairasIhaven’thadanyworkexperienceyetandIdon’tknowwhatsubjectsIamgoodatasIhaven’tsatanyexams.

• M.Urie,ourheadteacher,toldusthattheexamresultswouldimprovewiththenewsystem,theexamresultsthatcameoutthisyearshowedthattheschoolspassrateshadfallenbelowthelocalauthorityandnationalaveragessincetheintroductionofthisnewsystem.They'veflopped!TherewerekidswholeftSchoolthisyearwithnoqualifications.Almosthalfthekidsthatsatcertainexamsthisyearfailedcompletely.

• IknowIamnottheonlykidintheschoolwiththeseworries,thereare155peopleinadedicatedFacebookgroupallsharingthesamethoughtsandwewantsomethingdoneaboutit.Thereisapetitiononchange.orgthatoversixhundredpeoplehavesignedinthelastweek.

ThekidsontheFacebookpagehaveaslogan“OurExams,OurChoice,OurFuture”.

Couldthecommunitycouncilpleaseaddtheirsupporttothisissue,oneofthemainreasonswemovedtoCardrosswasbecauseofthegoodschools,alotofmyfriendsareconsideringmovingschoolbecauseHermitageAcademyarestoppingussittingexams.

CARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILMEETING

HELDINTHEGEILSTONHALL

ONMONDAY16November2015

AT8.00P.M.

WELCOME

TheChairwelcomedthecommittee,theCouncillors,RevMaggieMacArthurand14membersofthepublic.Heremindedallpresentthatthemeetingisrecordedforthepurposeoftakingminutes.Afterapprovaloftheminutes,therecordingisdestroyed.PRESENTTonyDavey(Convener),DuncanStirling(Secretary),GailSteven(Treasurer),BobbyBeggs,JoCameron,MikeCrowe,EricDuncan,BarrieMorton,CouncillorDavidKinniburgh,CouncillorRichardTrail,and14membersofthepublic.APOLOGIESPatrickTrust(ViceConvener),JimHollywood,BobMurray,CouncillorEllenMortonandMichaelWilson.DECLARATIONSOFINTERESTNone.MINUTESOFMEETINGHELDBYCARDROSSCOMMUNITYCOUNCILON21September2015AcceptancewasproposedbyMikeCroweandsecondedbyBarrieMorton.POLICEREPORTInspectorWyliesaidthatanumberofincidentshadoccurredinthevillagesinceOctober.On29October,amanwaschargedwithdrinkdrivingonDarliethRoad.On3November,asignificantamountofcannabiswasrecovered.Enquiriesareongoingtofindtheowner.On10November,amanwaschargedwithseriousassault.On14November,amalewaschargedwithvandalism.AreporthasbeensenttotheProcuratorFiscal.InspectorWyliesaidthatsheisawarethatroadsafetyisanissue,andofficerswillcontinuetocarryoutspeedchecksinthevillage.Therehavebeenanumberofcasesof“boguscallers”inHelensburgh,tryingtofindanexcusetogainaccesstohouses.WhiletheInspectordidnotwanttocauseunnecessaryalarm,shesaidthateveryoneshouldbemindfuloftheproblem.Themobileofficeiscontinuingtovisitthevillage,underthecontrolofPCAlisonKeynes.InspectorWyliesaidthatanyonewithanyquestions,shoulddiscussthematterwithAlison.InspectorWyliesaidthatfestivepolicingwillbeginatthestartofDecemberintherunuptoXmas.TheInspectorsaidthatafteraPoliceScotlandconsultationonthemergerofKandLdivisions,ithasbeendecidedtoputoffthemergeratpresent.Thematterwillbereviewedagain,probablyinthelatterquarterofnextyear.

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BarrieaskedifPeterSinclairisnowthewildlifeofficer.TheInspectorconfirmedthatisthecase.GeorgeMurphyaskedthebasisoftheproposedamalgamationofthetwoDivisions.Isitmanpowerresourcesorotherresources.InspectorWyliesaidthattheaimisto“strengthenlocalpolicing”.Sincetherewerenofurtherquestions,TonythankedInspectorWylieandsheleftthemeeting.MATTERSARISINGEstateAgent CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathehadbeenadvisedthatthesignsaretpberemoved.Signs: Pedestrian CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatthecrossingattheMuirholmisamoreuptodatecrossingCrossings: thantheonenearthepostoffice.Thetimingsforthiscrossingaretobeadjustedifnecessary.Grittingon Tonysaidthatgrittingprogrammeisavailableonline.LornaaskedifKirktonRoadcouldbeKirktonRoad: included.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthathewouldasktheRoadsDepartmentaboutthis possibility.PowerLine CouncillorKinniburghsaidthatheisstillawaitingaresponsefromPlanning.Tracks: Stairsfrom TonysaidthatTomMurphyhadsaidthattheofficerresponsiblehasresigned.TonyMuirendRoad hopestomeethisreplacementinthevillage,inabouttwoweeks.TheproblemwilltoNapierAve.: berelayedtoherthen.Speeding Tonysaidthathehadalengthymeetingwiththeofficerresponsible.Hehadalsorecievedthrough anemailfromagentlemanwhostaysatthebottomofLeaBrae.HewouldlikethespeedCardross: limitreducedfrom40mphto20mph.TrafficspeedisnowbeingmonitoredatthebottomofLea Brae.TheCouncilareprocuringmonitoringequipmentItwillbeusedtomonitorthespeedof trafficthroughCardross.TheCommunityCouncilwillthenbeinformedoftheoutcomeofthis process.Mr.Mitchellaskedifthereisatimelimitontheprocess.Tonysaidthattheequipment

isonorderandthereisnotimescaleasyet.CarmanRoad: Advisorysignsaretobeerectedsayingthattheroadisunsuitableforheavygoodsvehicles.Timberat CouncillorKinniburghsaidthataplanningapplicationwassubmittedon14OctobertoallowParkaccess woodtobestoredinthethisarea,remotefromtheSawMill.Ithasstilltobevalidated.nearStation: Gailsaidthattheareaisnowbeingusedasacarparkanditappearsthattheareaisbeing “takenover”bythesawmill.CouncillorKinniburghsaidthattheCouncilistryingtofindoutwho

thelandownersareinthisarea.NewExam TonysaidtheCommunityCouncilhadreceivedaletterfromtheCommissionerforChildrenandSystemat YoungpeoplestatingthattheCommunityCouncilhadbeeninbreachofUNCRCArticle12.Hermitage Tonysaidthathewillreplytotheletter.Academy:CORRESPONDENCE

DuncansaidthathehadreceivedaletterfromPoliceScotlandsayingthattheyareretainingKandLDivisionsatpresent.

TherewasalsoaletterfromourlocalMSPsrelatingtoCouncilCuts.

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PLANNING Bobbysaidthatthereweretwoapplications.Onefortheerectionoftwodwellinghouses andtheformationofavehicularaccessonlandEastofShiraLodge.Theapplicantsare “HouseforHeroesScotland”and“TheCrystalTrust”. ThesecondapplicationisforpartialdemolitionofawallEastofShiraLodge,tofacilitatethe constructionofavehicularaccess.Theapplicantsare“HouseforHeroesScotland”and “TheCrystalTrust”.Tonysaidthatapreviousapplicationfortheerectionofthreehousesonthe

samesite,bythesameapplicants,hadgenerated143representationsAGAINSTtheproposaland28representationsFORtheproposal.Ofthat28,8werefromCardrossand20werenot.TonysaidthatthePlansareyettobepublished.

HEALTH Patricksaidtherenonewitemstoreport,otherthantoletpeopleknowthatDavidBruce HasretiredaschairoftheLomondPatientsGroup.Hehascontributedagreatdealtokeeping theValeofLevenHospitalandinlettingtheCabinetSecretaryforHealth,WellbeingandSport, knowofthestronglocalinterest.ThepublicstilldonotrealisethattheMinorInjuriesand MedicalAssessmentUnitsareopen24hoursanditisappropriatetogototheValeHospitalasa 'walkingwounded'patientforanopinion.TheTriagesystematthehospitalwillsoonidentifya moreseriousproblemandarrangeforyoutobetakentoamoreappropriatehospitalfor definitivetreatment.AOCB NVA: TonysaidthatNVAareholdingameetinginthegolfclubon23November.Itishopedto discusswhatprogressisbeingmaderegardingSt.PetersCollege.Remembrance Duetotheinclementweather,theservicewasheldinthechurch.NancyGrayandMargaretService: Cordnercollected£5,700.oowasraisedfrompoppydistribution.Summer ItwasdecidedthattherewouldbenomeetingonJuly.Break:Lighting MikesaidthattherearenonumbersonthelightingstandardsinKirktonRoad.Standards: CouncillorTrailsaidthathewouldpursuethematter.Gailsaidthatthereisadarklamp onthemainroadatthegolfcourseexit. PUBLICQUESTIONTIMEMuirholm PamGoldieaskediftherehadbeenanyinformationonwhatishappeningtotheMuirholmHotel: Hotel.Unfortunately,no-onehadanyinformationonthematter.

DATEOFNEXTMEETING ThenextmeetingwillbeheldonMonday18January2016at8.00inthe GeilstonHall.ThemeetingclosedwithavoteofthankstotheChair.