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Ann ou n c eme n t of Me e t i n g .

The Novembe r me e t i ng of the Associ&tion wil l be held on Ve d n e sd a y , Novembe r 8 t h , 195 0 a t the As soci at e d Screen Ne ws, 1330 Sh e rbro ok e 7 e s t , n e ar Mou n ta i n S t ree t . The e n t e r ta i nme n t is being ar r an ged by Mr . J. Norma n Lo we, our Pub l i c i t y Chairman, wh o has a r r a n g e d a n i nt­e r es t i ng p r og ramme of moving pi ctures, sli des, etc. It i s h o ped t hat there wi l l be a g o o d turnout for what promis es to b e an inte r est ing e v en i n g 's en te r ta i nmen t . A short busine s s mee ti ng a t 8 fl! will p re cace th e mo v i n g p ic tu res .

a.S.A. Lavall e e, Secret ary.

It ems of I nterest

The ass i gnme n t o f tw o di esel l o c omo t i v e s to th o Sha wi ni gan Fal ls Ter­mi n n l Ra ilwa y in Sep tembe r , br ought th e u s e o f e le c t r i c e ng i n es t o a n c n d , a f t e r fift y yea rs o f juice operation. The SFTR wa s r e c o n t L y taken o ve r j o i n tly b y the Cana d i an National Rail ways a n d the Ca n ad i an P0c i f i c Ra il way . One 10 00-HP di e s el SW it c h ing l o como t ive f r om 6a c h r ailway has b o a n assigned . Th ese e ng i n e s a r e :

CPR 417 0 1 0 B-B t y pe. 1000 HP America n Loco Co.( #7 0 2 39) 1 94 3 CNR #80 1 0 n it Mon t rea l Loco Co.( #7 64 9 0) 1 9 4 9

A r o ster of the e le c t r ic lo c omoti v e s a n d a h is to ry of the She win i g an Fa lls Te rm i na l Ry., a ppen re Q in ou r Jul y - AUGust i s s u e.

Th8 SUdbury - Co p per Cli ff S t ree t Railwa y c e as e d op era t io n of i t s , l e c t r i c r ail line s on S a t u rday , S e pt ember 30th, 1 9 50. Al l roll in g

s t OCk , inc lud in g 11 e le c t r i c passen ge r c ar s ( n o s. 29- 3 9 i n c l.), a l ocomotive-pl ow, a nd a rot ary plow, we re s ol d t o Gr e ons p o on Bros . , S Udbu ry sc rap dea le rs . Through the ef f or ts o f Mr . Cl egg a nd Mr . Laval­l e e o f t h o CRilA, the wh i s t l e o f SCC SR Car # 3 0 TIe s do n a ted t o the Ass oc i a t i o n b y Gr e c ns po on Brothers.

The Algoma Ce ntra l Be Hu d son B[~y Ry., a r-o awai t Ln g deli ve ry o f f iv e di e s el r o a d s~ i tcha rs fr om G c n~r al Mo to r s Die s e l Lt d., t on d on, Onto

British Columbia's f a med Pac if ic Gre at E, ' s te rn Ry , h a s p La c o d an o r de r f or a num b e r of r oa d d iese l e n g i nes ~ i t h th e Mon t r o a l Loc o ~or lc s .

THE QUE BEC & GOSFORD RAILWAY Cm5P ANY O. S. A.Lavall e G

THe s ucc es s attainin g th e c omple ti on of the Saint La wr ellc e & I n du st r y V i l laGe Ra ilway i n 18 50 promp ted ma n y e n te rpr is ing sugg es t ­i on s f o r r ailTI a y con s truct ion duri n G th e F i f t ie s . Not t h e l ea st of these ~a s t h e f ormati o n of a Ccmp ~ny in 1 85 4 t o build a l in e of r a i l ­~ ay fr am Que be c t o t h e Riv e r S te . Anne , fo r e ven tual n or th~ ~r d e x t Gn s ­i on. The p roje c t U8S a l lowe d t o l a p s e, ho~c vG r , a n d w~ s n ot r ev iv e d u nt i l 1 8 68, ~ h en a Uni ted St nt e s -rn il~ a y c ontract or n a mGd Hul ber t n r~i v 6 d on the sc ene wi t h a " e et-ri ch- quick" s che me t o bu i l d wooden r nilway s i n v ~ ri ous pa rt s of t h e P r ov i n c e . Politici a n s of tho time ~c r6 n ot s lo w t o r G ~ : liz 6 t h e po tentia l iti es o f Hul be rt ' s id e a , wi th t h~ r esul t tha t o n Ap r i l 5, 1 06 9, t h e Le gislature of t h e Prov inco pa s se d a n Ac t . fo r pu b l i c a id to a numbe r o f woo d e n r a ilwa y s, f or complGt i on b y J u l y 1 s t, 18 7 2 .

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CANADIAN RAILROAD HISTORICAL ASSOCI AT ION, Inc.

NOVEMBER 1950

Announceme nt of Meeting.

The November meeting of the Associa tioti will be held on Wed n e s day , Novem ber 8 th, 1950 at the Associat ed Screen News, 1330 Sherbrooke 7e st, n ea r Mountain Street. The entertainment is being ar r ange d by Mr. J. Norman Lo we , our Publicity Chairman, who ha s a rr c. n ged a n int­eresting programme of moving pictures, slides, etc. It is ho ped tha t the re will be a good turnout for what promises to be an int e r est ing e v en in g ' s entert a inment. A short busines s meeting at 8 PM will procec. , th e movin g pictures.

O.S.A. La vallee, Secre t a r y .

Items of Interest

The a s s i gnment of t wo diesel locomo tiVes to th e Shawini ga n Falls Ter­minn l Railway in Sep t ember, br ought the use of e l e ctric eng i nes t o a n Gn d, afte r fift y years of juice opera tion. The SFTR wa s rcioon tl y taken OVGr jointly by the Ca n adia n Na tional Ra ilwa ys a n d the Canad i a n Pac ific Ra ilway . One 1000-HP dies e l switching 10co mo tivG fr om each r a ilway has boen assig ned. The se eng ines a re:

CPR # 7010 CNR #8 010

B-B type. 1000 HP " n

American Loco Co. U ,t 7 0239 ) 1 943 Mo ntrea l Loco Co.( # 76 498 ) 19 49

A roster of the e l e ctric loc omo tive s a n d a h istory of tho Shew i n i ga n Fa lls Term in a l Ry., appeared in our July - Auc us t i ssue .

Th0 Sudbury - Co ppe r Cliff Str ee t Ra ilway c ea s e d op e r n tion of it s , l e ctric r a il lines on S a turday , Se p tembe r 3 0 th, 1 950 . Al l roIlin g

s tock, includin g 11 e lectric pa ssen ger cars (n os .29-39 incl.), a locomotive-plow , a nd a rotary plow, were sold t o Greanspoon Bro s ., Sudbury scrap dealers. Throug h thG efforts of Mr.Cl acG' [, n o. Mr.T..2.. v a 1-le0 of the CRHA, tho y:histle of SCCSR Ca r 1F 30 vm s dona ted t o the Ass ocia tion b y Greonspoon Brothers.

The Algoma Cen trEd & Hudson B[~y Ry., ara aYi G. iting del ive ry o f fiv e die se l ro e d s~ it che rs fro m G cn~ r a l Mo tors Diesel Ltd., Lond on, Onto

British Columbia 's fam e d Pc: cific Gre a t E<' st e rn Ry. h ns p I n c o d nn o rd e r for a numb e r of ro ad diosel engines ~ith th e Montr ea l Lo co ~0rks.

THE QUEBEC & GOSFORD RAILWAY COMP ANY

THe succ ess att a inin g the comple ti on o f the Saint Law r s nc e & In du s try VillnC6 Ra i lwa y in 185 0 promp ted many enterprising sugg e st­i on s for r a ilTI a y con s tructi on during the Fifties. No t th e l eus t o f these ~ns ~he forma ti on of a Cc mp ~ny in 1854 to build a lin o of r a il­~ay fr om Quebec t o th e Riv er Ste.Anne, fo r e ventual north~&r d Gxt Gns­i an . The project was a llowe d to lap sG , ho~ cvGr, an d w~ s not r e Viv e d u n til 1 868 , when a United States - rn il~ay contr~ct o r n amsd Hul b e rt n r r iv cd on the scens with a " ge t-rich - quick" scheme to bu ild wooden r n ilways in v ~ rious parts of the Province. Politici a ns of tho time wer e n o t slow to r G~; liz G th e po t entin liti Gs o f Hulber t's idc [t , \7 ith the r esult tha t on April 5, 1 069 , th e Le g i s l a ture of the Provinco passed a n Act.for public a i d t o ~ number o f wooden r a ilways , for complG ti on b y July 1 s t . 18 7 2 .

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w~ s inc or ) ornt ed t o bu i l d bet wBcn those t wo l oc a liti e s, und er the t erms of t he A c t r e s pe ctin g a I d t o wo o don r ai 1v.' :~ y s. I t v:r'.s c c n e l dc r e d e xpe d i.c n t to c o mm en c c bu LLd l n g from t h e Ln Lan d t e r minu s a t Iz.c a 1'1 1 6,

( 2 6 mi Le s from QUll1b Gc , a n d c a r r y c onstruc ti on ou t wa r d , This ~ f D.S b egun in SGpt embe r 1 8 69, a n d the gradin g and much tr ac k l a y inc; ~a s complG t ed ~ i t h i n a yea r . The lin e wa s f ~irly s t r a ic h t a s the ~oo dcn- r8 i l c on ­s t r u c t ion d id n at a l low of much curvDture a n d to kee p t h e CGs t s a s l ow a s p o s s i ble , s e veral mi le s of tr ac k we r e I nid on a lo~ tr 6 stl e~ o rk, Gsp6 c i ~ 1 1y t h o se c t io n j u s t outside of Qu e be c . A not able erGi u e crin c f e a ture ~as a brid g e over 1 500 f eet lone, i n c l u di n g ~pp ro u c h 6 s , ovs r th o Ja c ~u c s-C arti B r Riv4 &, and a n insp e ction t ri p wa s ma d e i n t he s umme r of 1070 t o vi e~ t h e construc ti on of this structur e . As EnGine Ho . l , the " J a c qu e s Co. rt i6r " had e v er e d by tf,[c dbeen d Ld Rh o de L s L ari

ryo rks i n JUlie of that ye ar , i t ~ as u sc d on t hi s tr ip , co u p l e d t o SGVer0 a I f l a t car s ,

S e veral weeks before t h e co ntract &apsed , the Qu e bc c & Gosfo rd was o ,ene d wi th due c e re mon y of church and st at o , on the 2 6 t h o f Nov­s mbc r , 1 87 0. a n d a f t e r a n ex ce l le n t r e pa s t a t t h e St .Lou i s I n n, tho

;V' ~~6 z1 0 1 d e r s a n d t he ir guos t s ma de ," . r ound tri p on th e L'l no , Th,c St2.·'

Lion in Qu e be c was l oc a t e d in t he St .Malo sec t ion of t h e c ity . On thL 24 t h c f Dec ember foll owing , th e na me of t h e c ompv n y was chan sed t o the ;l l,u e b bc a n d Lak s S t . J ohn Ry . Co . " . The li n e V:[tS au c c e s a fu L ly c p e r a t e d flu r inG DGcombGr 1 07 0, ['.11 d fo r 1'. pa r t of th e s e n s on of 18 7 1. I n 1 87 2~

a co n s t a n t s e r vi ce W2. S o f fe re d fr om H ' ·.y t o Nc v embe r , a n d t Ii e t r r. fr i c f a r ex c e e dc d the ex pe o t a t Lon s o f [~n y of tho c orapa n y ' s Ln c or pc r n t o r s ,

Re pcirs a f t e r e nch suc cess i ve s oas on di d Du c h t o d i sc red i t t h e wood6 n- r ~ i l t y pe of construct i on , an d i t secms e v id sn t t hat h~ d iron r a il b e e n u s e d fro m th o bCGi n n inG, t h e l i ne mi c h t hnv o c onti nu6 ~ i n su c c e ss fu l opo ra tio n co n s t c n t ly f rom that ti fls f or~ 3r d. I n 1 87 3 , t he f i nanc i a l ou t l a y for r e pair s 2 n d tho r esult an t dG l~y i n t h c l i n e ' s o p en i n G d i d much to disc r od i t it in t h e aye s of the p~ t ron s of the r .' ~ ili'F'<I , [~ nd ver:l l itt l e t r ~d'fi c wa s c a r r Lc d , I n 1 87 4 op er ct Lon s c ame t o a stan dst ill n n d t ho l oc omotiv os , ~h i c h h ad beo n i ncr ea s e d t o threo b y t h ~t t ime , a n d SOfie of the equ ipmen t , we ro st or e d a t Qucb e c . Thi s c qu i pmon t 1a;/ u nus e d unt il I D8 1 , wh o n it I",',"'. S t ak e n ou t of r c t t r cn on t t o bo u sed i n t h o bu i Ld t n j; o f t he Que be c & Lr.k c St .John :2 ;:~ iJ.';; i :y t ov-­u r d s t h o Upp or Sa Guc na? I n J u n o of l CeO , the Q& LSt J Ry . rc ~ch c d

Ch 1.:mbor ct on La k e S t . J ohn , 1 7 6 mi le s from Quebe c . E iCh tc o:1 yc a r s ste r e thus roqui r e d to buil d t his f i r s t ma i n link of t he line \":11 0 3 0

i 21strumon t [:lity in th e ooLon t za t L c n of t he n or t h cou n t r y s t r.n d s prolj.­i n ontly in th o r e cent hi st 0r y o f t ho Prcvin c e of Queb ec .

Durin G it s pe r io d of fic t i v e o por ~ t icn , tho Q&G i nc l u d o d a b ou t fiv G do zen sm~l l car s i n it s r o s t er , a n d thr e e l oc omoti v o s :

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iF 3 II Go s f'o l' c1 " II 1i~ 2 7 5 " " " tI II

Tho "Go sf ord" wa s l ett e r r e ne med tile f1J . B. Re na u d" a n d -;; CcS I e,:: B S ':: in 100 5-0 6 t o the Po n t ia c P~ c i f i c J u n c t i on By . f or c on struc ti on uso . I t V: 2. S la te r r e bu r n c d t c tho Q& LS t J Ry . The " J a c qu e s C c~r t i er " a n d the " Qu eb ec" we r e a l s o l at er r enamed - th o f ormer be c ominG t h e "Fr ~nk W. Ro s s v , t h o l att er, the llC cl .M. ') . Baby" . 'rh o thr ee e n g Ln o s c ve n t ua Tl y be c a me 11 o s . 2 8 , 2 9 a n d 3 0 of the C::.... :1Ldi n n Hor th Gr n Rt., i 1vfc ty Ce . , ;,~ n d

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t e r ms of t he Act r ssp6 ctin g' [", i o t o \,'ooden ra ilY,"~. Ys . It wr'. s c on s i dG r e d € x "9 6~ i G nt to co:m111 Cn CG bu ildi n G from t h e i n l r: nd t e r minus ,<:, t L,: c a l'Il € , 2 6 Tules fr om Qu e; be c, a nd c P. r r y cons t r uc ti on ou t vJD. rd. Th i s ',fD.S b ef'"un i n S Gp t e mbe r 1 869 , a nd the g r a ding a nd muc h t r a c k l a y i nc ~a s comp 1 6 ~ed ~ ithin a yea r. The l in e wa s f [: i rl y s t r a i Ght a s t he ~ o o d cn-ra i l c on ­s tr uc ti on d i d n a t a ll ow of muc h c u r v8 t ur a a nd to keep t ha CGsts a s l ow a s p oss ib l e , s eve r a l miles of t r n ck ~ e r e I n i d on a l o ~ t r e stlewo r k , ospe ci ~ ll y the s e c ti on just out s id e of Que b e c. A no t a b le ar Bi ne c ri n c f ea t u r e ~as a b r i d g e o ve r 1500 f o e t lo n G, i nclud ing app r ou ches ? o vs r t h e J a c qu e s -C a rt i e r Riv 4w, a nd a n i n s pec ti on t r i p wa s made i n t h e s umme r o f 10 70 t o v i e~ t h e c onstr u cti on of t his s truc tur o . As En c ine Ho .1, the "J a c ques Ca rti 6 r" ha d be.en del i ver e d b y t :t;rc Rh od e I s l a nd ryor ks i n J une of t h a t ye a r, it ~n s u s e d on t h i s tri p , cou p l e d t o sc ver6 n l f L:~ t c a r s ,

S evera l weekS be f ors the c on t r a c t lAp s ed , t h e Queb e c & Go s fo r d wa s o~e ned wi t h due oer emony of chu rc h a n d s t a t e , on t he 2 6t h o f Nov­smbc r? 18 70 9 a n d a f t e r a n exce l l e n t r epas t at the S t oT,ou i s r n E . t h o

fv;:;~e!l O l de rs r!. n d t he i r gUGst s me.de .:.~ r ound tri p on th e li n o . Tll,G st E.'· G1 0n i n Qu ebe c wa s l oc a t ed i n the St . Ma t o s ect i on of the c i t y . On t h~

24 t h cf De c em b e r follO Wing , the na me of t h e c om p~ ny was c han ~e d t o t he " l,u ebt c a n d Lci.ke S t . J ohn Ry . Co .". The li ne V:'CL S SU CCGss f u l 1::l OPG 1, ~, t 6d

flu r in c; De c emb Gr 1 8 70 , [1.n d fo r 1'. pa rt of t he S G~~se n of 18 7 1. I n 1 8 7 2 ~

[t c ons t a n t s e r v i ce 1,'18. S o ff e red fr om LI'·.y t (i JJo v omb or , '-'. l1ci t Le tr ,. ff i c f e. r 6xc eedo d t he ex poct a ti ons o f ~~r:.y of tho c om p,1n y ' r:; inc (1r [c r i1 t o r s .

RClx ir s af t er e c.c h suc c cs siY E) s ee,S OE did Duch to d isc r ed it t ho wo o d6 n-r~ i l t ype of cons t ruc t i on , a n d i t 86cms ev i dsn t t h a t h ad ir on r u i 1 b e en us ed from t h o bCGinn i nG, the 1in8 mi ch t h n ve c ont i nuee i n su cc e s s fu l o pe r at i on co nstc n t1 y f r om tha t ti me f o r~2 r d . I n 1 8 73, the fin an cia l ou t l ay fo r r ep a irs Rn d t he r e sult a n t dGl~y in t he l i ne ' s a p eni n e d i d mu c h t o d i s c r ed it it i n t he eye s o f the p~ tr ons of the r,<~ ilw;-:. y , a n d ve r y li ttl e. t rEd'f i c ,,:a s c n rri e d . I n 18 74 op s r <. ti orlf3 e ;:,me t o a s t n n d s t i l l n nd t he locomo tivos , ~h ic h h a d b e on i n creased t o th r e e b y t h ~ t ti me , an d s ome of the e qui pmen t, we r e st or ed a t Quobe c . Thi s equ i pmen t 1a ;/ unus e d un ti l 188 1, v;hGn it I'.'n s t nken ou t of r c tirCI'l6 n t t c be u s ed i n t h E; bu i ld inG G f t h e ('~UG bee 8:, k .k e St .J oh n :8 r·.i l ';;,:y t ow­a r ds t he Upp e r SOBu e n a y . In J uno of l COO , th e Q& Ls tJR y . rc ~ ohcd

C h ~:mbor d on Lt.'.ke S t .J oh n , 17 6 mi l e s fr om Qu e b e c . E i c h te en yG ~ '. r s rfe ro t hus r equ ired to buil d t his firs t na i n l ink o f t he l i :10 '..'h o s e i 21s tr umo nt [c lit y in the co1 on i :3 n ti o:n of t h e n C' r t h c 0untr ~1 s t :.nds p r olj.­i ne n t1 y i n th e r ecent h i st or y o f tho Prc v i nc e of Qu e bcc .

Du r i n G i t s pe ri od of a ct i ve o pcr ~ t i o n, the Q& G i nc lud od a bou t fi vG doz e n sm~ l l c a rs i n it s r os t er , a nd th r oe l oc omo t i vos :

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1 1 t :; t ' " T B R - '" ~ ' 1 "' '' .~ 11 " . ... ,>" 1 C ·7· " c r; 1· n The " Gos f ord" ,las c. o r r ent-.mo G. fl O tJ •• b._ c " ~ c~ .. 1.\ ',c.o "" ~ .. . -

J 00 5- 06 t o t he Pon ti a c P~ c ifi c J u n c t i on Ry . f or c ons t r u c t i on u s o . It ;a s l a t e r r etu r ned t o tho Q&LS tJR y . Th e "J a cques Ca rti e r" a n d t h~

1 t ~ t ' f o r r' ''' r 'O"' C O~ 1' 11r. t he "'''' ·' ' ''' '''·1, 1~1 " Que b e e" i'l G r e [', Is 0 [. e r r e nf~ m G C1 - n o ,1 ", . 'J \." - b 1· . .' -. "-.,. , •

R: s st1 tho I p tt e r t he " Co l.M. ·:r . Ba b y ". 'rho thr o e e l1 Gi nes Gven t ',.lf, lly v , . • , ,

be c C1. me n o s . 2 8 , 29 a n d 3 0 of the C C',:}[:~ d i D. n Uor th Grn Ri.1 ilwct y Cc ., r: nCt

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