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Page 1: Calculating the Cost for Language Services 15 June 2012 Evert van der Vlis Ministry of Security and Justice The Hague

Calculating the Cost for Calculating the Cost for Language Services Language Services

15 June 201215 June 2012

Evert van der Vlis Evert van der Vlis

Ministry of Security and JusticeMinistry of Security and Justice

The HagueThe Hague

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OutlineOutlineo Impact assessmentImpact assessmento Available data and statisticsAvailable data and statisticso Estimation of the cost of the Directive Estimation of the cost of the Directive

for Hollandfor Hollando Questions and discussionQuestions and discussion

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COMMISSION OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES

Brussels, 8.7.2009SEC(2009) 915

COMMISSION STAFF WORKING DOCUMENT

Proposal for a Council Framework Decision on the right to interpretation and translation in criminal proceedings

Accompanying theProposal for a

FRAMEWORK DECISION

on the right to interpretation and to translation in criminal proceedings

IMPACT ASSESSMENT

{COM(2009) 338 final}{SEC(2009) 916}

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Estimated number of criminal proceedings involving non-nationals 2007

Country Population Non-

nationals % Criminal

proc. non-

nationals Belgium 10.584.534 932.161 8.8% 18.628

France 63.392.140 3.650.100 5.8% 73.534

Germany 82.314.906 7.255.949 8.8% 255.498

Luxembourg

476.187 198.213 41.6% 3.961

Netherlands

16.357.992 681.932 4.2% 53.592

United Kingdom

60.816.701 3.659.900 6% 112.878

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Numbers and percentages of non-nationals in prison

and pre-trial detainees (2006-2007) Country Prison Pre-trial

detainees Prison%

Pre-trial

detainees %

Belgium 4.234 1.753 42.9% 41.4

France 12.341 -- 19.4% --

Germany 20.485 5.569 26.3% 27.2%

Luxembourg

546 255 73.4 46.7

Netherlands

4.246 1.315 29.1% 31%

United Kingdom

11.310 1.602 14.2% 14.2%

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Estimated costs of interpretation and translation

Country Criminal proc. non-

nationals

Costs Interpretation € 200

Costs Translation 30 pages € 255-€1500

Belgium 16.598 € 3.725.600 € 4.750.140 € 27.942.000

France 73.534 € 14.706.800 € 18.751.170€ 110.301.000

Germany 255.498 € 51.099.600 € 130.303.980€ 766.494.000

Luxembourg 3.961 € 792.200 € 1.010.055€ 5.941.500

Netherlands 53.592 € 10.718.400 € 13.665.980€ 80.388.000

United Kingdom

112.878 ₤ 37.500.000 ₤ 24.896.602₤ 146.450.604

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Calculations UK Cost of interpretation

1.881.306Number criminal proceedings in the UK

188.131 10% of cases involve non-nationals

£ 37.500.000 UK Spent on interpretation in 2007

£ 199 Average spent per case

€ 200 Average spent per case

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What is missing? • Reliable data on the number of people who need an

interpreter or translator (many non-nationals do speak the language)

• Second and third generation migrants• Data on current fees for interpreter and translation in

criminal proceedings (EULITA?)• Information about practical arrangements:

• National register• Contracts with agencies • Telephone interpreting• Videoconferencing

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The European Commission for the

Efficiency of Justice • 4th Report - Edition

September 2012

• Correspondents in all member states

www.coe.int/T/dghl/cooperation/cepej/default_en.asp

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Table 16.1 Number of certified court interpreters in 2008 and 2010. Evolution between 2008 and 2010 (Q199)

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AndorraArmenia

Albania BulgariaAustria CyprusAzerbaijan Czech RepublicBelgium EstoniaBosnia and Herzegovina FinlandCroatia FranceDenmark GermanyGeorgia GreeceIceland HungaryLatvia IrelandLithuania ItalyLuxembourg MaltaMonaco MoldovaMontenegro NorwayNetherlands PortugalPoland RomaniaSerbia Russian FederationSlovakia San MarinoSlovenia SpainThe FYROMacedonia SwedenUK-England and Wales SwitzerlandUK-Northern Ireland TurkeyUK-Scotland Ukraine

Yes (23 countries)48%

No (25 countries)52%

Table 16.5 Binding provisions regarding the qualityof court interpreters in judicial proceedings (Q200)

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Figure 16.2 Number of certified court interpreters per professional judge (Q46 Q199)

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• Crime and Criminal Justice, Crime and Criminal Justice, 2006-2009 - Issue number 2006-2009 - Issue number 6/2012 “6/2012 “Statistics in focus”Statistics in focus”

• Crime trends in the European Crime trends in the European Union Union

• Metadata files on the Metadata files on the Eurostat websiteEurostat website

• Crimes recorded by the Crimes recorded by the police:police:

• Prison population Prison population • European Demography European Demography

Report Report Migration: foreign Migration: foreign populationpopulation

• 31.9 31.9 millionmillion non-nationals in non-nationals in the EUthe EUwww.epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page/portal/crime

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Immigrants per 1000 inhabitants 2009

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European Sourcebook of Crime and Criminal Justice

Statistics - 2010 www.europeansourcebook.org

Contains data for 40 European countries

Council of Europe Annual Penal Statistics

www3.unil.ch/wpmu/space

Contains data on prison populations

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Implementation in the Netherlandso Draft bill consultation in December 2011

o Comments received from:o Bureau for Sworn Interpreters and Translatorso Bar Associationo Council for the Judiciaryo Policeo Public Prosecution Service o SIGV Court Interpreters and Legal Translators o Dutch Society of Interpreters and Translators

o Cabinet (today!)o The Dutch Council of State - advises the

government on legislation (July 2012) o Dutch House of Representatives (September

2012)o Senate of the Dutch Parliament (± April 2013)

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The Netherlands

Population 2009 Number

Immigrants 3.287.706

Dutch nationals 13.198.081

Non Western immigrants 1.809.310

Western immigrants 1.478.396

Africa 543.649

America 598.936

Asia 726.646

Oceania 20.025

EU countries 877.552

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217.000 suspects1.5 % of the population

2008Total ♂ ♀

Total 1,5 % 2,5 % 0,5 %

Dutch nationals

1,2 % 1,9 % 0,4 %

Western immigrants

1,5 % 2,4 % 0,6 %

Non-western migrants

4,3 % 7,0 % 1,5 %

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Origin detainees

Detainees on 6 December 2008

Number

Total 11.934

Dutch nationals 9.075

East Europe & Russia 455

Europe 369

Africa 775

America 402

Asia 117

Middle East 327

Unknown 414

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Language services in the NetherlandsLanguage services in the Netherlands

• Mainly oral translation• Lawyer client Interpreter • At all stages of the criminal case an interpreter

present • Fixed payments: Public Prosecutors, Courts and

investigation by the police• Public Prosecutors and courts have a centralized

booking system• Legal aid provided by agency (European tender)

± 50% Telephone interpreting (no fixed fees)

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Interpreting/Translating Legal Aid 2010

Total

Lawyer client Interpreter 86.111

Telephone interpreting 35.209

Face to face interpreting 34.055

Cancellations by lawyer or client 16.157

Cancellations by interpreter 690

Translations into Dutch 6.850

Translations from Dutch 1.241

Total Cost € 12.413.000

Cancellations € 326.130

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Interpreting/translating Police, Public Prosecutors, Courts 2010

Total

Police (Including tapping of telecommunications)

± € 13.000.000

Public Prosecutors interpreting € 2.834.000

Public Prosecutors translating € 3.516.000

Public Prosecutors travel cost interpreters

€ 1.414.000

Courts Interpreting/translating ± € 890.000

Total Cost 2010 Total

Interpreting/translations ± € 34.067.000

Register of Sworn Interpreters and Translators

€ 879.000

Total ± € 34.946.000

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NumberStandard

80%Unique

20%Total

Police detention order

8.000 6.400 1.600 ± € 100. 000

Provisional detention order

4.000 2.400 1.600 ± € 100.000

Sanctions public Prosecutor

3.000 2.500 500 ± € 100.000

Indictment 15.000 12.000 3.000 ± € 800.000

Verdict 14.000 11.200 2.800 ± € 600.000

Documents 7.000 ± € 5.000.000

Total Cost ± € 6.700.000

Estimated additional cost directive

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Impact assessment EU

Cost of Interpretation € 10.718.400

Cost of Translation minimum € 13 665.980

Cost of Translation maximum € 80.388.000

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Annual budget crime prevention and criminal law

enforcemento Total € 7.831 milliono Public Prosecution Service € 430

milliono Criminal Courts € 259 million o Legal aid in Criminal Cases € 111

milliono Salduz case: Right to consult a lawyer

prior to police interview € 30 million

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Questions and discussionQuestions and discussion