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1 Law Office of Barry R.
Wegman
Barry R Wegman SBN 127356
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7506 Collett Ave
Van Nuys, California 91406
3 818) 570-9312
Email: [email protected]
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5 Attorney for Plaintiff, Bob Atchison
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UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY
COURT
CENTRAL
DISTRICT
OF
CALIFORNIA
LOS ANGELES DIVISION
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In
re:
12 OMA
MCCONNELL
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4 BOB ATCHISON,
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16
v
Debtor.
Plaintiff,
17
OMA MCCONNELL
also known as
OMA
HAMOU also known as
18 ALEXANDRA MCCONNELL
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Defendant.
Case No.: 2:14-bk-14501-BB
Chapter:
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Adv No.: 2:14-ap-01420- BB
OPPOSITION
TO
MOTION
FOR
RELIEF
FROM
DEFAULT;
MEMORANDUM
OF
POINTS
AND
AUTHORITIES; DECLARATION
OF
BARRY
R.
WEGMAN
Date: November 18, 2014
Time: 2:00 p.m.
Ctrm: 1475
22 TO THE
HONORABLE
SHERI BLUEBOND,
JUDGE
DEBTOR OMA
23 MCCONNELL IN PROSE AND
TO
INTERESTED PARTIES:
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Plaintiff Bob Atchison opposes the Motion
of
Debtor Oma McConnell for relief fro
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default as follows:
26 ll
7 ll
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1 MEMORANDUM
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POINTS AND
AUTHORITIES
2 I.
DEBTOR
HAS NOT SHOWN ANY EXCUSABLE
NEGLECT
SURPRISE
3
OR
INADVERTENCE JUSTIFYING RELIEF FROM DEFAULT.
4 Defendant Oma McConnell asserts that she failed to respond to the properly served
5 Complaint by the July 23, 2014 deadline because she was in fear
of
Plaintiff, even though
Plaintiff lives in the State of Texas. Further, she claims she was pre-occupied with her
7 mother's death on July 12, 2014.
8 Nothing could be further from the truth. Debtor has made a career dodging and
9 delaying legal proceedings, including filing successive bankruptcies - three in a four year
10 period. Debtor's efforts form a large part of Plaintiff's claim to have Debtor declared a
11 vexatious litigant.
12 Debtor filed her first bankruptcy on or about July
7
2010, entitled n re Oma Hamo
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and bearing case number 2:10-bk-37839-VZ. This was a Chapter 13 filing in which Debto
4 indicates her landlord, Eric Cowan, had obtained a judgment of eviction. She indicated sh
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wanted to confirm a plan to pay the default. No plan was confirmed and the case was
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dismissed without a discharge.
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Debtor's next bankruptcy was filed on March
5
2012, the same date she was to
18 appear for a judgment debtor's examination in state court. The bankruptcy was entitled: In
19 re Oma McConnell bearing case number 2:12-bk-17945-ER. She only filed an emergency
20
petition. She never filed any schedules. She never appeared for her creditor's meeting. M
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Atchison was granted an order for a Rule 2004 examination. Debtor filed an improper
22 motion for a protective order. In denying her motion, Judge Robles commented on how sh
23 obtained an unconsented two month extension to provide documents, but still failed to
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provide any documents. (See, Exhibit B .) Her case was ultimately dismissed without
25 discharge by the Court along with Plaintiff's adversary filed in that case.
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This time, she filed the current action to avoid responding to Plaintiff's state court
27
action which was filed on February
18
2014 in the California Superior Court for Los
28 Angeles, bearing case number BC536549 ( State Court Action ) and to avoid eviction by
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1 her landlord, Jack Kleinman (See, Main Case Docket
13).
She filed the instant Chapter
2 bankruptcy on March 10, 2014. When she did so, she requested and was given a permissio
3 to pay her filing fee in installments. (Main Case Docket item #6)
4 On May 8, 2014, Plaintiff filed a motion for relief from stay to proceed with the Sta
5
Court Action. (Main Case Docket
item
17) The matter was heard on July
1,
2014.
6
Debtor opposed and announced to the Court that she wanted this court to hear the claims
7 against her in the State Court Action. Plaintiff elected to proceed in this Court and timely
8 filed his adversary on June 20,2014. (Adv. Docket
item
1 The Summons and Adversa
9 Complaint were timely served on June 24, 2014 with return of Summons filed on July 31,
10 2014. (Adv. Docket item 5) Debtor had until July 23, 2014 to file a responsive pleading
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pursuant to the Summons, but Plaintiff did not request default until July 31, 2014, giving h
12 until that time to file a response.
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Fear
of
Plaintiff did not stop the Debtor from filing an opposition to his motion for
4 relief from stay (Main Case Docket item # 24) nor appearing at the hearing before this Cou
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on July
1,
2014 arguing that she wanted Plaintiff's claims adjudicated in this Court, not the
16 state court. Debtor has appeared on a number of occasions before this Court, all without
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fear from anything Plaintiff might do from his home in the State
of
Texas. Fear
of
Plaintif
18 has never stopped Debtor from posting online defamatory matters about Plaintiff, as allege
19 in the adversary complaint, illustrated below and in the attached Exhibit A.
20 In her declaration Debtor states I flew to Michigan to say goodbye to my Mother
21 who was dying of cancer and was by her beside as she departed this world on July 12,
22 2014.
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Mr. Atchison did not take Debtor's default until July 31, 2014. It is clear from the
24 exchange with respect to Plaintiff's Motion for Relief from Stay that Debtor was very awa
25 of Plaintiff's claims. While the death of her mother was certainly painful, she had almost
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days after her mother's death to file a responsive pleading. She was aware that she was
27 facing not one, but two adversaries, this case and the one filed by her former counsel,
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Baruch C. Cohen.
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She also argues, in her moving papers, that she was unfamiliar with the bankruptcy
2 legal system. Each of the three bankruptcies she filed, she filed pro se. She had no proble
3 obtaining permission to pay her filing fee in installments. (Main Case Docket item #6) Sh
4 had no problem filing opposition to Plaintiff's Motion for Relief from Stay. (Main Case
5
Docket
item#
24) On or about April24, 2012, Defendant, acting on her own behalf, filed
6 Complaint against Plaintiff with the United States District Court for the Central District
of
7
California entitled OMA MCCONNELL V ROBERT DAVID ATCHISON, ET AL, beari
8 case number 12-03556
-RGK
and alleging civil RICO claims, showing she was both not
9 afraid of Plaintiff and capable of preparing and filing documents in a federal courthouse.
10 Debtor was busy blogging excessively on her blog entitled Rob Moshen and his lies
11 (http://omahamou.com/oma/viewtopic.php?f= 1&t=57 &st=O&sk=t&sd=a&start=9420)
12 during this time about her legal issues, including continuing to defame Plaintiff. She was
13 fully aware of her deadlines and simply chose to ignore them. A true and correct copy of
14 relevant pages
of
Debtor's blog are attached hereto
as
Exhibit A and incorporated herein
15 by reference. Many of the blogs start on June 5 2014 and go way past the response and
16
default deadlines. Here are some specifics, showing Debtor 's knowledge regarding claims
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against her, with some specific language emphasized in bold type:
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June 28,2014 at 1:11pm:
19
I
am looking forward on Monday when I am down at the federal
20 building reading what you
and
it was something filed on
your
behalf what
21 it has to say,
remember, just because you slap something in legal pleadings
22 doesn't make it true especially when most of what you have had attorneys file
23
on your behalf has been lies you told them. Again, I can't wait for you to prove
24 you won your 2005 civil case against me because you are a honest human
25 being, can't wait.
26 2. July 7, 2014 at 10:43 am:
27 What
I do find useful as I gleamed through one document filed on
28 behalf
of
that monster, Bob Atchison,
is
this: Under oath he states: ' ....
9.
I
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1 believe I will be performing a benefit for the creditors
of
Debtor in my
2 adversary to determine whether a vexaitious litigant ... '
3 3. July
7
2014 at 4:46pm:
4
Here is
another copy of the legal brief filed in Federal
Court
by
that
5 lunatic,
that
mentally disturbed
human
being, the Teflon Con, Bob
6 Atchison: http:llwww.docdroid.netleffflmcconnell- ... y.pdf.html
and
the
7 defamation claim has not yet been moved into federal court, pending the
8 early proceedings in the adversary action. The adversary claim
is to
9 resolve the question of whether the original debt to Atchison was incurred
10 fraudulently.
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4. July 7 2014 at 5:39pm:
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In the complaint before the
US
Bankruptcy Court the Teflon Con,
13
Bob Atchison,
is
seeking a Federal Ruling on the brief which I have
14 provided a link too as such I am entitled under the letter
of
the law to
15
utilize any
and
all documents in order to prove that monster is lying and
16
such.
All this coward who hides behind this web account Blake Springpasture
17
is doing
is
criminally harassing me and causing me to suffer all
of
which will
18 be duly noted in short time in court.
19 Entry number 3, above, contains a link posted by Debtor to where she posted a copy
20
of
Plaintiffs adversary complaint on July 7 2014. She was clearly aware of the legal
21 proceedings. She clearly had no fear
of
Plaintiff based on the things she wrote about him o
22 her blog. In entry number 4, she again references the link to a copy of the adversary by
23
Plaintiff. Debtor's extensive blogging about her bankruptcy, Plaintiffs adversary case, an
24 the adversary filed by Creditor Baruch Cohen, that her claim that she was
so
preoccupied
25
with her mother's death that she could not take the time to respond to Plaintiffs adversary
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just lacks credibility.
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1 II. DEBTOR HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED SHE HAS A MERITORIOUS
2 DEFENSE.
3 Debtor has not identified any meritorious defenses available to her. First, Debtor s
declaration fails to provide any facts justifying a defense to any claim against her. With
5
respect to the defamation claim, a defense would be she didn t make the statement or it wa
6 true or provide a procedural defense. None are provided. With respect to
Plaintiffs
7 523(a)(2)(A) claim, she provides no evidence that she didn t defraud Plaintiff. She only
8 states, without evidentiary support, that she lives in constant fear
of
Mr. Atchison. Not on
9 do her posts contradict she has any fear
of
Mr. Atchison, but anything he has done to
10 recover on the judgment he received in 2005 occurred after the events giving rise to his
11
523 claim in the first instance. They would not constitute a defense to that claim.
12
While Debtor talks confidently that Plaintiffs 2005 Texas judgment was wrongfull
13
obtained, she does not state any facts which would establish she
isn t
a vexatious litigant o
4 that Plaintiff isn t entitled to equitable relief in the form of an injunction to prohibit any
15
further defamation.
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III. CONCLUSION.
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Debtor s motion to vacate should be denied. She has not demonstrated any excusab
18 neglect, surprise or other impediment to filing a timely response. She has not demonstrate
19
that she has a meritorious defense to any
of
the claims against her.
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Dated: November
6
2014
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Respectfully submitted,
LAW OFFICE OF BARRY
R.
WEGMAN
arry . egman, attorney for
Plaintiff Bob Atchison
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1 DECLARATION
OF
BARRY R. WEGMAN
I
Barry R. Wegman, declare:
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1.
That I am an attorney duly licensed to practice before all the courts within the
4 State of California and counsel of record for Creditor Bob Atchison in the above entitled
5
adversary action. The matters stated herein below are known to me on personal knowledg
6 except for those matters stated on information and belief and to those matters, I believe the
7 are true and if called to testify thereto, I could
do
so competently and under oath.
8
2.
I have reviewed the Debtor's first bankruptcy filing online through PACER and
9 found the Debtor had filed her first bankruptcy on or about July
7
2010, entitled
In re Om
10
Hamou
and bearing case number 2:10-bk-37839-VZ. This was a Chapter 13 filing in whi
11
Debtor indicates her landlord, Eric Cowan, had obtained a judgment of eviction. She
12 indicated she wanted to confirm a plan to pay the default. No plan was confirmed and the
13
case was dismissed without a discharge.
4 3.
Debtor's next bankruptcy was filed on March 5 2012 and this was my first
15
introduction to the Debtor as Plaintiff's counsel in that proceeding. The bankruptcy was
16 entitled:
In re Oma McConnell
bearing case number 2:12-bk-17945-ER. She only filed an
7
emergency petition. She never filed any schedules. She never appeared for her creditor's
18 meeting. Mr. Atchison was granted an order for a Rule 2004 examination. Debtor filed a
19 incomplete motion for a protective order. In denying her motion, Judge Robles commente
20 on how she obtained an unconsented two month extension to provide documents, but still
21 failed to provide any documents. (See, Exhibit B , Order dated July 5, 2012.) Her case
was ultimately dismissed without a discharge before the Rule 2004 exam was ever taken,
23 along with Plaintiff's adversary filed in that case.
24
4.
Debtor's current Chapter 7 bankruptcy was filed so that the automatic stay woul
25 avoid responding to Plaintiff's state court action which was filed on February 18, 2014 in
26 the California Superior Court for Los Angeles, bearing case number BC536549 ( State
27
Court Action ) and, as I learned through review of PACER, to avoid an eviction by her
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landlord, Jack Kleinman. She filed the instant Chapter 7 bankruptcy on March 10, 2014.
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When she did so, she requested and was given a permission to pay her filing fee in
2 installments. (Main Case Docket item 6) She failed to make her last two payments and
3 this Court almost dismissed the bankruptcy for failure to pay when Plaintiff made the
4
payment to avoid that result.
5
5.
On May
8,
2014, Plaintiff filed a motion for relief from stay to proceed with the
6 State Court Action. (Main Case Docket item 17) The matter was heard on July
1,
2014.
7 Debtor opposed and announced to the Court that she wanted this Court to hear the claims
8 against her in the State Court Action. Plaintiff elected to proceed in this Court and timely
9 filed his adversary on June 20, 2014. (Adv. Docket item
1
The Summons and Adversar
10 Complaint were timely served on June 24, 2014 with return of Summons on July 31, 2014.
(Adv. Docket item 5) Debtor had until July 23, 2014 to file a responsive pleading
12 pursuant to the Summons, but as Plaintiff did not request default until July 31, 2014 and it
13 was not entered until August 1, she had until then to file a response.
14 6. I have appeared on at least four occasions, three involving this Court and this ca
15 where Debtor did not exhibit any fear
of
Plaintiff showing up or ofme. My client lives in
16
the State ofTexas. When the Debtor appeared for the hearing on Plaintiff's motion for
17
relief from stay, Debtor had no issues advancing her position to the Court. She displayed
18 signs of fear.
19 7.
Although the summons provided until July 23, 2014 for Debtor to file a timely
20 responsive pleading, the request for default was not filed until July 31 and default was
21
entered on August
1,
2014.
22
8. Despite Plaintiffs claim that she is unfamiliar with bankruptcy proceedings, she
23 filed all her proceedings in pre se, and successfully obtained not one but two extensions of
24 time to bring a motion for relief from default in this case. She had no problem obtaining
25 permission to pay her filing fee in installments. (Main Case Docket item 6) She had no
26 problem filing opposition to Plaintiff's Motion for Relief from Stay. (Main Case Docket
27
item 24) and a motion for sanctions. When she appeared at the Status Conference, this
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Court commented on her need to file a motion for relief from default and that she didn't
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seem to have any trouble preparing and filing paper with the court.
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Debtor was busy blogging excessively on her blog entitled Rob Moshen and his
3 lies (http://omahamou.com/oma/viewtopic.php?f=l&t=57&st=O&sk=t&sd=a&start=9420
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during this time about her legal issues, including continuing to defame Plaintiff. A true an
5 correct copy
of
Debtor's blog is attached hereto as Exhibit A and incorporated herein by
6 reference.
7
Executed this
th
day
of
November, 2014 at Van Nuys, California.
8 I declare under penalty
of
perjury under the laws
of
the State
of
California that the
9
foregoing is true and correct.
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PROOF OF SERVICE OF DOCUMENT
I am over the age of 18 and not a party to this bankruptcy case or adversary proceeding. My business address is:
7506
Collett
Ave., Van Nuys,
CA
91406
A true and correct copy of the foregoing document entitled specify) OPPOSITION TO MOTION FOR RELIEF FROM
DEFAULT; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS
AND
AUTHORITIES; DECLARATION OF
BARRY R.
WEGMAN will be
served
or
was served a) on the judge in chambers
in
the form and manner required by LBR 5005-2 d); and b) in the
manner stated below:
1. TO BE SERVED
BY
THE COURT
VIA
NOTICE OF ELECTRONIC FILING
CNEF :
Pursuant to controlling General
Orders and LBR, the foregoing document will be served by the court via NEF and hyperlink to the document. On date)
11/6/14, I checked the CM/ECF docket for this bankruptcy case or adversary proceeding and determined that the
following persons are on the Electronic Mail Notice List to receive NEF transmission at the email addresses stated below:
Barry R Wegman
Baruch C Cohen
Wes Avery TR)
James W Charlton
United States Trustee LA)
brweg@sbcglobal. net
ustpregion
16.1a
Service information continued on attached page
2. SERVED BY UNITED STATES MAIL:
On date) 11/6/14 I served the following persons and/or entities at the last known addresses in this bankruptcy case
or
adversary proceeding by placing a true and correct copy thereof in a sealed envelope in the United States mail, first class
postage prepaid, and addressed as follows. Listing the judge here constitutes a declaration that mailing to the judge will
be completed no later than 24 hours after the document
is
filed.
Honorable
Sheri
Bluebond Judge
United States Bankruptcy Court
255
East Temple
Street,
Suite
1482
Los Angeles CA
90012
Debtor-
Oma McConnell
145 S. Glenoaks, 305
Burbank
CA
91502
D Service information continued on attached page
3. SERVED BY PERSONAL DELIVERY. OVERNIGHT MAIL. FACSIMILE TRANSMISSION OR EMAIL state method
for each person or entity served): Pursuant to F.R.Civ.P. 5 and/or controlling LBR, on date) I served
the following persons and/or entities by personal delivery, overnight mail service, or for those who consented in writing to
such service method), by facsimile transmission and/or email as follows. Listing the judge here constitutes a declaration
that personal delivery on, or overnight mail to, the judge will
be
completed no later than 24 hours after the document is
filed.
Service information continued on attached page
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws
of
the United States that the f
11/6/12
Barry R. Wegman
Date
Printed Name
This form is mandatory. It has been approved for use by the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Central District
of
California.
June 2012
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Re: Rob Moshein and His Lies....
by Oma Hamouon Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:33 pm
For Rob Moshein:
Next time you send out one of your crappy letters using the name "Interested Party" you better make certainwhat you state is a real fact and not one that you just created just to suit your evil twisted agenda especiallywhen you send it to a Judge. You publish that I have used more than 10 aliases but I haven't, just like I havenever committed the crime of identity theft and the US State Department, Mrs. Cohen, did not tell you whatyou have published on the web to name but a few. You also state as a matter of fact that I am a con artistwhen in fact there has never been any kind of judicial determination of any kind that says this butcommunications sent by your hand and those connected to you to Judges, members of law enforcement and
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third parties all because your domestic partner/partner, Bob Atchison, got up on a stand and conned 12 peoplenot to mention a Judge into believing his lies, continue to state as a matter of fact that this is a real fact. awenforcement has said it has been you and those connected to you who have told them you knew for certainthat I was a con artist especially when you were pretending to know for certain that I had committed crimes Ihave never committed. Bob's own attorney has stated in legal papers testifying as to matters outside hispersonal knowledge and merely offering conclusory, self-serving statements that he is not competent to makeall because he believes your lies and the lies told to him by his client, your partner, Bob Atchison. It is like youguys telling him that I admitted on this forum of having used 4 different social security numbers and he
attaches a copy of this forum because he trusted your representation and marked that exhibit as beingidentified as "H" and that document proved I did not say what he put in his legal brief.
Although you pass the California Bar you are prohibited under State laws from dispensing legal advice but youcontinue to do so:
....Administrative Actions
7/21/1997 Suspended, failed to pay Bar membr. fees Not Eligible To Practice Law Source:http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/120046
What you have and continue to do to me by representing to law enforcement and others that as a member ofthe California Bar you can do XYZ I have been told you can't in fact, what you have done over the yearsconstitutes gross ethical violations. You are no longer permitted to dispense legal advice either on the web orin third party communications or by way of phone like you have given to Patrick, for example. You toldPatrick he could go to my home despite a court order and harm my family, do what he wanted, because you aninsignificant nobody lied and said no one from the Los Angeles Sheriff's department would do anything to himif he did what you told him to do, because he listened to your advice, sent me threatening harassing messagesand you of course with your stalking IP's and the digital record you created, it cost me in excess of $7,500because that is how terrified I was because some bastard listened to some asshole from Texas and I had to goto Texas so I had to hire a private security firm to stay at my home until I got back. Lots of things you
personally have done and pretended you have had a legal right to do but you didn't. Neither you or yourdomestic partner and partner, Bob Atchison has had a legal right to interfere in my private life to the extremesas you have and continue to do while hiding behind a judgment Bob got because he lied on the witness stand
in 2005 and gave the trial court a manufactured document.
For the public:
If Robert Mark Moshein has harmed you with his lies, soliciting others to gang up on you on the web orelsewhere or has published legal advice and it has harmed you in any manner the California State Bar isinterested in hearing from you. http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Attorneys/Lawy ... ation.aspx
P.S. Rob, pursuant to the advice of law enforcement and others, I did contact the California State Bar aboutyou and they are very much interested in learning more of what you've been doing to me for years, years, Ihave the digital record, I am working on my Complaint. Unlike you, I will not be hiding behind "Interested
Party" or any of your known aka's as I will be using my name, Oma McConnell.
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Re: Rob Moshein and His Lies....
by Oma Hamouon Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:32 pm
I went to this morning, Creditor Hearing, which has been continued for July 21, 2014 and only one creditorappeared on my petition that reflects a debt of over $1 million dollars, only one and that one person wasconnected to Bob Atchison a man who won a judgment against me in 2005 because he is a dishonest human
being. Bob Atchison won because he got up on the witness stand and lied and gave the trial court a fakedocument he created using one of the computers sitting inside of his home on Laurel Lane in Austin. Texas.He continues to use the courts to attempt to harass, stalk, publicly humiliate and shame me because he can'tlet go of his sick perverted obsession on me but guess what his attorney made an error as he mentioned 2trucks which were on my 2012 petition, it isn't on the 2014 but this attorney, talked about it, thought he wasslick. I am filing a Ex Parte on Tuesday to contest the validity of Bob Atchison being a legitimate creditorbecause I can do that, I just found out I can, and I will. I also have completed my Anti-Slapp Motion to thebogus lawsuit he filed in State Court against me for defamation pretending that I lied about him on this forum,I can't believe he is so delusional, I didn't lie, and I have proven it and I am going to continue to prove it at alllevels, I also believe on Monday my Counterclaims against that son of a bitch will be finished and I can file itat the same time I file my Anti-Slapp Motion. Bob Atchison is a son of a bitch who lied about a priest, in
Russia, Bishop Markell, he lied to law enforcement here in California and told them that this priest signed fora loan for me with JP Morgan, a loan that never existed in the first place but in this sick twisted pervert's mind.I am so angry that this coward, Bob Atchison continues to criminally stalk me by using the court system andpretending that he won a judgment against me because he is just an honest guy who never lies, OMG!
Now, as to the twitter post from this coward Miriam Kedem who is associated with Bob Atchison the bastardwho lies about the Russian Orthodox Church and it's clergy members because this is what an evil person does,I will respond:
Miriam Kedem @mitzikedem May 31
Darling, I could be wrong, but you may be confusing G-d's arms with someone else's. Think aboutit, darling.
Bob Atchison and his people for the last 20 years have published these kind of weird o web posting that havereligious sort of overtone, somehow that he/they are holier-than-thou, and who the hell does this creepybastard/bitch thinks she/he is to publish on a public forum that he/she knows for a fact that God does not wraphis arms around me, see how crazy these son of a bitches are who are connected to some weird freak sitting inAustin Texas that created the Alexander Palace Time Machine and has used it to solicit others to harm others.
I want this group of weirdo's to leave me alone this group who calls law enforcement and sends thesecommunications to them pretending the information they give is the truth just because some creep is that sick
in the mind in his obsession with Russian history, these weird people, weirdo's!
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JesusChrist does indeed wrap his arms around me and comforts me and I also know for a fact that He loves me, heloves with all of His heart and because He died for me and Others, because I believe and am an Orthodox
Christian, I do know when I die, I will enter His Kingdom.
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At Ms. Hamou's request, I have deleted my web post.
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The recent web postings made by Bob Atchison, Rob Moshein demonstrate over and over how obsessivethese two gross people are about me going on 20 years. I will respond to their crap by saying this, BobAtchison in 2005 sat on the witness stand in district court and lied and gave the trial court a manufactureddocument. His then attorney, also lied during that same trial and told the court she knew for a fact there hadbeen 2 different lawsuits filed in Texas when in fact there wasn't. Over the course of many years Bob Atchison
has filed numerous false criminal complaints against me and has even lied to law enforcement about BishopMarkell, a Russian priest, in St. Petersburg, Russia and now, now he and his love, Rob, shrug their shouldersand pretend that it is o.k. for Bob to have done this and so many other things to me, it isn't o.k. Bob has lied tohis attorneys more than once and I have the record much of which have been published on the web and in turnhis attorneys have stated under oath something that isn't a fact but just hearsay, something told to them bytheir client. For example, Barry Wegman under oath in court documents, under the penalty of perjury statedthat I had published on this forum that I had used 4 different social security numbers and attached as proof acopy of this forum which when read PROVED what he stated under oath was a lie. So why did he state it asbeing a fact when it wasn't? Because his client and his client's love and others convinced him (key word"concinved" him) it was a fact just as L. Matthews of Austin, Texas who represented Bob during the 2005civil trial was manipulated by that same client in committing the crime of perjury. I filed for bankruptcy and
only 1 creditor came to the creditor's meeting to harass, interogate and such and that was Mr. Wegman theattorney for Bob Atchison, an individual who won a judgment against me because he is and always has been a
dishonest human being.
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by Oma Hamouon Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:15 pm
Bob Atchison said...Rob, I am sure she has read the full text of what Baruch Cohen filed.
Many people have.
June 23, 2014 at 10:10 PM
No, I have not read it nor have I received, just more of your hot steaming manuere you slap on the web andpretend it is a fact. You are a pathological liar scum sucking son of a bitch who filed numerous false criminalcomplaints against me one of them contained your lies abouta poor Bishop in Russia who you pretend to this
very day to admire, your pathetic!
As to your latter statement since 2001 you a scum sucking no good human being created all of these libeloussites about me,sent scores of communications to business associatesand friends of mine lying because that iswhat you are good at, lying. You liedon the witness stand and now I get to show in court here in California
that you did lie and you did give the trial court a fake document and you have published lies about the RussianOrthodox Church under the spiritual leadership of His Holiness the Moscow Patriarch. Hope you can proveyour lies about the Church and it's clergy members because I know I can, and will prove you are a lyingbastard who is obsessed with me and every aspect of my life since 2000, because the Russians in 2001considered you to be a lying, scheming bastard who amongst other things is a thief and noone not even thegovernment of Russia or other organizations like the WMF wanted to be assocaited with you "back then"
and I have it in writing because you were a trouble maker, a bad element.
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2 retired officers from the Irvine Police department will testify under oath to the statements provided in theirrespective reports concerning Bob Atchison's statement about Bishop Markell as well as other statements andother law enforcement officers in Palmdale Sheriff's department (LASD) the Burbank Police department aswell as COURT DOCUMENTS on file in both Federal and State court testify under the penalty of perjuryboth Bob Atchison and his respective counsel (s) of record LIED and we are not talking small lies, we aretalkingBIG LIES which had animpact on the decession of the court.
I have a letter from the Russian Orthodox Church that states as a matter of fact that I have not beenexcommunicated yet Bob Atchison a mentally disturbed man who pretends to represent the Church under thespiritual leadership of his Holiness the Moscow Patriarch has published numerous statements on the web that Ihave, he also states as a matter of fact that no one in the Church lights candles under the Saints or prays forme yet I have also a letter/communications proving this too is just a complete fabrication. He also states he hasnever lied about Bishop Markell a priest in St. petersburg, Russia yet 2 law enforcement officers say he made
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statements about this priest, statements which I know and can prove are a complete fabrication. He also stateshe has never lied in court, on the witness stand or in court documents and of course I can prove he did, he alsostates that he did not provide the trial court in 2005 a manufactured document and of course I can also provethis too is a complete fabrication. I can prove with great pleasure that the defamation lawsuit filed by this uglyhuman being is just lies and him using the court to amongst other things to stalk and harass me because he is
that obsessed, that delusional.
There has never ever been any judicial determination of any kind in any court that I am a con artist or that I
have lied under oath but Rob Moshein this scum publishes on the web that a California Judge said this yet thecourt transcripts from the proceedings he preseided over demonstrates he did not say this and so many otherthings. Bob Atchison in the past has alleged many things in legal pleadings and for the most part those thingsincluding but not limited that I have used multiple social security numbers were figments of a psycho'soveractive imagination. I have not received any document filed in Bankruptcy Court from Mr. Cohen norhave I read it but for the record, even if such comments do exist, they are allegations, not a judicialdetermination. Both Bob Atchison and Rob Moshein for 20 years because the Russians hated Bob's guts anddidn't want any part of that ugly human being, created more than 13 libelous sites about me. They are thatobsessed, that gross, they have inserted themselves into my personal life to such extremes, no one but aderanged psycho does what these two have and continue to do to me, the weird part about all of this is thatthey claim to have done this in the name of Nicholas II. If this martyr Saint was alive today he would not
condone what these two bastards have done and continue to do in his name and weirder is that back in2001-2005, these two psycho's used and hid behind the name of Bishop Markell and the Fdorovsky Cathedral.
The Honorable Judge Livingston said: "...On considering the evidence the court received and theargument of counsel, the Court finds and concludes that third party plaintiff's have shown a
likelihood of sucess on the merits of this cause that a temporary injunction is necessary to
prevent harm to Ms. Hamouthat unless injunction lies, third party plaintiff's will be without any
adequate remedy at law in that no amount of damages will be able to repair the loss of
reputation to the parties...."GN303141 - Austin, Texas - 2005
Without this kind of restraining order in place these two bastards from Austin, Texas who are obsessed withboth Nicholas II and with me lies and libelous sites in place have harmed me and continue to harm me.
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by Oma Hamouon Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:22 pm
June 25, 2014 at 9:28 AM
Blogger Bob Atchison said...Oma Hamou:
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As I have said before I will arrange a meeting with your Bishop so you can discuss everything youwant in front of him. I will be there.
We could invite people, including Mr. Cohen, who claim you have lied to them or cheated them toattend so you can address each one of them in front of your Bishop.
You could talk all you want about Bishop Markel.
At the end we could attend a liturgy and you could find out for yourself if you are excluded fromthe Eucharist by the church.
That's what excommunication is, you are refused the Eucharist. excommunication is not expulsionfrom the church.
June 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM
Dearest Monster,
I have and continue to participate in the Eucharist by the Church under the spiritual leadership of His Holiness
the Moscow Patriarch and I have letters proving what you slapped on the web and pretend is the truth so helpyou God, just as you swore under oath in court documents and when you took the stand and sat in the witnessstand in 2005, I can prove you are just that a monster who continues to lie. I think the public needs to knowhow far you a slimy son of a bitch has gone to even insert himself into my relationship with the church, youknow, with your lies and pretending you are such a good Christian, who is just doing his job, in wanting tomake certain your lies were believed by the Russian Orthodox Church about me. I am glad to have copies ofthose communications you sent to the Church going as far back as 2004-2005 yet in court documents youstated under oath you had never communicated with any one from the ROC but you did and have continued.Who does this kind of crap? Only a complete psycho that is who and now I get to use those communicationsin court to show the Judge how far you are willing to go to harm me and the best part of it, pay close attention,is that I have permission to use those communications from the Church. I do not have the permission to
publish them on the web but I do have permission to make them available for court purposes in demonstratingthe extremes you have gone to harm me because you are that obsessed about me. Also, like I said, 2detectives from the Irvine Police department is willing to testify in court what you told one of them aboutBishop Markell having allegedly co signed for a loan for me with the financial institution, JP Morgan and theother will testify he also read your statements in that report which I have a copy of because and this isimportant so pay attention, in 2005, we asked you questions about those lies of yours about Bishop Markelland you lied again in court documents and pretended you said nothing about this Bishop so my attorney wasable to obtain a copy of that specific record which I have been told has been since destroyed, and because it isa certified copy of your statements, I now can use it in the bogus defamation lawsuit you filed against me,
pretending once again that you are so innocent, you are not.
I want the public and those in Russia and in specifically in Russian history/culture to know what you havedone to me how far you inserted yourself into my personal and I mean persona life just because at one time in2005 you were not liked, you ere despised and considered by the Russian government of being a thief, a liarand a con artist who no one wanted to be associated with because you cause a lot of trouble because you areso obsessed with Nicholas II and of course because you were/are dishonest. FYI, I also have communication(s) from Russia in particular the Fedorovsky Cathedral members and clergy who state under oath that in 2001,you came to Russia and told them lies about me and said I told you Father Markell had raped me, kissed meand all sorts of lies and because of those lies is why people who worked side by side with me for more than 6months and thought highly of me (yes, I have in on video tape coming from the mouth of Bishop Markell
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during my baptism and Dr. Sautov) because you stood inside the Cathedral (Sobor) with crocodile tears andseemed so genuine is why they said a person who could say that their Bishop/Priest would do such a thingis/must be of the devil. I also have you on tape lying again an saying it was the little ladies at the Sobor whotold you I had told them that Bishop Markell did such things. You just continue to lie and I get to expose thoselies in court and am so looking forward to it. The Church was not fooled by you and your tricks nor do youhave any spiritual authority or legal right to pretend that you know my relationship with the Church and God
because you have none, no authority, and with that I shall end my response.
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by Oma Hamouon Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:14 am
I want to know why Bob Atchison you believe you have had the right to insert yourself into my personal life,to go to such extremes as you have and continue to do, you won a judgment against me in 2005 because youlied and gave the trial court a manufactured document, that this gives you the right to go to such extremes asyou have to harm me and continue to harm me. Remember during our civil litigation in Austin, Texas in yourInterrogatories you stated under oath that you had not contacted any clergy member of the ROC but you didand we have it in writing, you called and sent communications to clergy members of the ROC and lied tothem, I mean, you really lied, you even contacted clergy members here in Los Angeles, I have had to go togreat lengths in order to protect my legal right to worship freely without your interference and you'vecontinued to do this to me for over 19 years. You are that crazy and that obsessed and that determined to stalkand harass me even inside of a House of God. No one does this kind of s*** but you a demented horriblehuman being does it and continues you inserted yourself into the Animal Control stuff and hired a privatedetective who went to my Mom's home, a mother who is dying of cancer, you did all this because you wantedto harm me, no other creditor has did what you've done and or continue to do, you filed numerous false policereports about me and keep on pretending that you've not lied about Bishop Markell to the American lawenforcement when you have. You "forget" in our last civil lawsuit Bishop Markell was a focus then because ofyour lies and of course right now because it has been more than several years, your statements with the Irvinelaw enforcement have been destroyed but I have a certified copy of that record. You think having religioustheme parties at your house brings you prestige and represents what a true Orthodox Christian is it doesn't andnever will you do not earn brownie points in the eyes of the Church more importantly in the eyes of God. Youhave used computers registered to your web company, Pallasart, and published my social security number andother information on the web in order to harm me and it has and continues, you have done all this and somuch more and expect the public and especially the court to just accept what you've done to me is o.k.because according to you I deserve it and you are God's messenger and almost all of your web postings havebeen religious sort of overtone, somehow that you are holier-than-thou and have been ordained by the hand ofGod and the Russian Orthodox Church under the spiritual leadership of His Holiness the Moscow Patriarch tospeak on it's behalf. You have no legal or spiritual authority by God or by His Holiness to publish such filth onthe web, none but you continue because you think it makes you look good, makes you feel good, sick, really
sick.
Again, you have manufactured documents and had them attach to legal briefs which you purported werecopies of the original, gave them to law enforcement, you have provided manufactured document and gavethe trial court a fraudulent document and lied while you sat in the witness stand in an American court room,
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you have had 2 attorneys repeat your lies and represent that those lies were the truth based on yourrepresentations and those lies and your fraud impacted the court's decision. Had the Court seen Pallasart'sORIGINAL invoice and compared it to your manufactured one that contained the same language, your civilcase against me would have been dismissed on the spot and that is a historical fact supported by way ofdocumentation contained within the 2005 trial transcript, yet you pretend and keep on pretending otherwise...
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Snoopy wrote:
Mike Newson (2006) Legend of Anastasia Forum
My, Oh My! Lions and Tigers and Bears(Not you agrBear )
It seems that we who post and read in this thread are all still very tender under theskin from our shared experiences and encounters with people associated with theAPTM. So when Susan and Alix H both came out of the blue and shot arrows at us.(Neither bothered to say, Hi, this is me... They just attacked, Susan attackedMichael G, and Alix H basically laid into the rest of us, at least those of us who poston this thread.) Anyway, after seeing what was happening I decided to go back topost one on this thread which started with RealAnastasia saying, Today, I visited the"Palace Forums" where I have a message defending Bear very politely and wishingall people a Merry Christmas....and the answers that I found were simply amazing.Plenty of hate and scorn. It seems to me that the APTM Forum is very central to allof us, even if our experiences have not been favorable. In response to RealAnastasiabeing attacked, LyliaM said, I just reviewed the posts and I don't even know what to
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say. Except that you did NOTHING WHATSOEVER to deserve such treatment. Theattacks really are outrageous. They're rude in and of themselves (and totallyunprovoked as well.) It was suggested that she report the abuse to the APTM ForumAdministrator (FA) and she responded, "I'm a little afraid to PM FA, for Finnelly didit, and it was she who was banned. You know how things work in the PalaceForums. And yes some negative words were used to describe one person thereaccording to how they felt about this persons behavior, when LyliaM said, I feelthat there is something seriously wrong with the FA. His behavior demonstrates -- to
me, anyway -- an excessive degree of paranoia and hostility bordering on thedelusional. This experience was not unique, it seems that many have had similarexperiences, and as far as I know stating a personal experience is not slanderous. Forexample elena maria vidal said, "I was just reading how rude they all were to Versoix,especially the Forum Administrator. It is like dealing with some totalitarianregime....
In general most people here seem to feel that their personal experience there at theAPTM was not favorable, as in when LyliaM said, My feeling is that some of thosepeople are undersocialized, bored shut-ins who enjoy an illusory sense of knowledgeand power by being self-styled AA "experts." I find the chummy way they support
one another, once it's clear "which side" they're on, pretty amusing. If your junior-high-school experience was too short for your liking, visit the AP Survivors Boardand you'll feel like you're in seventh grade all over again! Elena maria vidalexpressed her feelings about APTM when she said, So many of the other threadshave a BAD vibe, ; people are getting SO nasty, one cannot discuss anything in anintelligent manner. I do not mind if people disagree with me or prove me wrong,because I am there to learn, but some people are SO nasty and condescending.What is happening now was somewhat explained when LyliaM said, My husband,who has observed my anger at the rudeness and disinformation tolerated on theSurvivors threads, explained to me that (this) sort of thing tends to happen onceonline groups exceed a certain number of members. I definitely agree that the
nastiness has escalated in other places on the Palace site, and I think that it must bedue to ineffective monitoring. The sad reality is that most kind and courteous folkswill walk away from a site once it degenerates past a certain point, leaving the creepsto claim the place for themselves. According to my husband's statistical analysis,once we get an additional 20 or so members here . . . watch out! Which is whatseems to be happening, although until recently I think we were all getting over thingsand healing until the scabs were ripped off. So here we go again
I think Penny (kahili wahine) best expressed her feeling and experiences when shesaid, ...it's important to remember that the AP site is heavily agendized. Thebehavior of Bob and Rob -- and especially Rob -- is not surprising to those who have
known them for a long time. They simply are what they are -- take them or leavethem. The bottom line is that you will not fit in with them unless you agree withtheir every dictation about the Romanovs; and if you do not fit in with them, theywill do what is in their power to damage you.
Usually, this sort of damage is small potatoes, like being banned from their web site,but I know of one historian who abandoned a book project rather than deal with theslings and arrows of Bob and Rob. In effect as she said about them at a later point,Believe our way, or we'll get rid of you." She continued to express her feeling whenshe said, My gut feeling is that all this comes down to their need to "own" the
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Nicholas and Alexandra part of Romanov history; they seem to have a ridiculousneed to be the "last word" on this subject.
It was interesting to learn about the control exerted on many of us as in whenRealAnastasia said about her experience on the APTM with respect to Penny, Theylied to me about you, Penny, and pushed me to be rude to you. Annie said that, "allpeople know that Penny is a paranoiac person"...How can she have been sounrespectful of an historian who had celebrated published works all around the
world? How can she be so liar? I'm sincerely disgusted. LyliaM also expressed herfeelings, I feel hurt and outraged for the good people who have been libeled there,and it's just not worth it to me. Add to that the info that Penny has shared with us,and it all adds up to a very spiritually blighted site. It's like the buzzards are stillpicking over the bones, trying to figure how to co-opt Russian history and benefitfrom it.
LyliaM also noticed this same tendency when she said, I noticed anothercontrolling and suppressive episode on the "rape" thread in the Last Chapter Forum:Rob says that Bob says that there is no evidence to support a conclusion of anythingat all happening on board the Rus, and that this should be enough to end the
conversation. From my experience several times, if anyone continues to discuss it,they could get a personal email from Rob saying that, "Bob is getting sick to hisstomach over this. Please stop."
There's no sort of intellectual debate going on at that place -- just mudslinging for thebenefit of "the Gulag." Completely defamatory and unsubstantiated accusations arebeing made.
doesn't this information jibe with everything you've learned about those guysthrough your own interaction with them? They talk out of both sides of their mouthsat once. They are dishonest; they are control freaks; they feel a bizarre sense of
ownership over this affair; they twist people's words; they denigrate and insult thosewho merely speak logic. Frankly, the only explanation that I can (sort of) come upwith for their behavior IS that Bob and Rob truly feel that they have been ordainedby "higher powers" to enlighten Planet Earth as to the "truth" about AA.
I had a brief (but alarming) brush with a religious cult while in law school, and thosepeople demonstrated the same scary belief that they, and they ALONE, wererecipients of God's truth. They also employed similar tactics to keep people in lineand keep the self-justification machine chugging along.
At one point Penny commented that, Time and again, I have heard that Bob
"knows" that AM was not GDA for various arcane reasons: That he has been inspiritual communication with Olga and Alexandra and both have assured him thatAnastasia was safely with them; that AM simply did not present herself or live asthey imagined a Russian Grand Duchess would; and since he saw the bones inEkaterinburg, Bob has been sure that Anastasia was among them because his "artist'seye" recognized her skull.
And everyone who has known Bob for any length of time knows that he chats toOlga and Alix -- I don't even recall who told me, but it was several years ago. I askeda couple of people if he was kidding, and I was told, "Oh, no -- Bob's quite sure that
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those two speak directly to him." I have that email still, so this is a direct quote.Versoix responded, Penny, if this is for real, it's worse than crazy. It's insulting andpossibly sacrilegious.
Alexandra and Olga are canonized saints of my church. In the Orthodox tradition, theidea that saints and angels, even the most holy Mother of God, and even beyond thatthe Lord Jesus Christ Himself, sometimes appear to living people or otherwise speakdirectly to them, is recognized as true. But this happens only to very special people,
people of quite extraordinary holiness ~who are not seeking such experiences~, andwho, historically, have been ~quite reluctant to talk about them~.
In fact, one of the ways the church judges whether visionaries are telling the truth isby taking the measure of these people as Christians, the measure of the way they livetheir lives, the faith, hope and love they show, the humility they show, etc.
In other words, my first reaction to any "normal" person who claimed to be talking tosaints would be outrage -- outrage that by these claims the person was dishonoringthe name of the saint. My outrage would dissipate instantly if it became obvious tome that the person was psychotic. And Penny responded back with, I do NOT
believe that Bob has visitations from Alix and Olga; nor do I think that he ispsychotic. I think he's obsessed, and that this obsession has joined his delusions ofgrandeur to create -- consciously or not -- this sort of pseudo-religious ("religious"with a small "r," if you get my meaning) aura about him, as though he is a sort ofparanormal lion at the Romanov gate. Michael G. also seems to have experiencedthe same things. He said, I guess they want to "control" for use of a better word,history, and how it is viewed. It is truly sad when such parasitic individuals asAtchison and Moshein and their court of sycophants, try to make themselves rich offof history, they steal artifacts from the palace, and they besmirch good people such asGreg & Penny and their stellar work. I wonder how many of those fools havecontributed money to these two and their forum?
And how many of them have gotten rooked or booted off when they are no longer infavor?
All of which I take to be peoples personal experiences and impressions as to whatthey have experienced at or because of the APTM. And while at first it seems thatpeoples experiences ruled the posts here we see a slight change when we first heardabout Oma Hamou on Feb 04, 2006 (My experience here started on Mar 10, 2006)when Penny reported that she had found a website http://www.bobatchison.co.uk/about Bob from someones rapidly deleted post on APTM. Penny said, I don't knowwhat's true and what's not true on that site, though I have been hearing a lot of it forseveral years from people involved -- or formerly involved -- with both sides.
Initially, I gave Rob and Bob the benefit of the doubt, because I know them betterthan Oma, whom I don't know at all -- but after seeing them in action on the APBoards -- in how they treat people, and in how they censor ideas and ban discussionin an attempt to "control" Russian history and the form in which it is presented to thestudents who might come to their site to learn -- well... I am inclined to give them awhole lot less benefit of that doubt. I have to agree with Tali when she said, Whathappened in the situation surrounding the owners of the Alexander Palace TimeMachine and Ms. Hamou could very well happen to any of us ~ it is a lesson for allof us ~ there are many cults and cult like figures which in the last years have
developed surrounding Nicholas II ~ these kind of people need our prayers because
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they are lost!
Maryanne had a major negative experience with the APTM and its principles whenshe reported to us that she had visited this site. http://www.bobatchison.co.uk/Shesaid, [i]Saturday with nothing to do I spent the entire afternoon reading Seanswebsite on Bob and them.
Getting back to Seans site. I took lots of notes because there are lots of links and
some things made me want to ask Bob himself whats true and not true. For me Bob(until yesterday) he's always been easy to talk too sometimes yes he can be cageyand even a grumpy bear but if Ive ever had a question about something relating toNicholas and Alexandra he usually gave me an answer.
Yesterday, FA (Rob) wrote: Bob is more concerned with accuracy than his ego. Ifevidence shows he made a mistake, he is the first to recognize it and be glad of thecorrections. I've seen it a hundred times.
Bob said the links to the documents some of them were fake and the person hewas in a lawsuit with was trying to humiliate him cause he said he won and she lost. I
thought ok, yes I bought his answer cause I don't know but some of the things that hisattorney filed and he said things I remember from his emails to me weren't true andwhen I said, "But Bob I remember you sent me an email that said somethingdifferent" he got mad at me and told me that he can see that I am not his friend and Iam only there to cause him problems. All I wanted to know was the truth. Hethreatened to call my parents and involve them and out of his paranoia and mysurprise he did!
LyliaM had this reaction to Maryannes experience when she said, Bob clearly hassome major problems and what he did was an incredible violation on many differentlevels. People with nothing to hide don't behave as he did. I feel sorry for him,
because he's on a very bad path that's not going to lead him to enlightenment, but Iam also very angered by the innocent people he's hurting in his egomania. I find theway he instantly turned on you when you confronted him with his own words verychilling. He's a sick man, and I would steer clear of him,
About this point in time I started to post in this thread and I said about what I hadseen here, So far I have seen two basic sources of information backing the thingsthat have been said about Rob, Bob and Company. One is the this-is-what-happened-to-me source of information. And the Second is, this is what I foundpublished in court documents regarding Oma and Bob. Given these sources, well Bobcan talk until he is blue in the face and wont get anywhere in a court. Much of what
has been said I personally have experienced also, just not in the APTM forum.http://www.omahamou.com/there right along with Omas (Well OK, so it is insideher exhibits, still you can go read it if you want to. Note: Go to the NEWS section.)My point is that one cannot sue over this-is-what-happened-to-me, as it is your ownpersonal experience. Now drawing conclusions might be a problem. This is what Roband Bob did against Oma, they were not happy with just stating this-is-the-factsaccording to this court record or that. Or this is what we have heard from this sourceor that. They drew their own conclusions and published those as fact. Which is wherethey opened themselves up for trouble.
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Still is seems that most of us congregated here in this thread because of sharedexperiences and similar trauma. Penny seems to have expressed best and first whenshe said, I think it's been natural to sort of congregate and share traveler's talesabout that place. Elena maria vidal, agreed when she said, I do think we all neededto vent a little about the AP boards and this has been a safe place to do it, becausesome of us have been really hurt there. As did LyliaM with, I do, feel that newposters, who have generally come here after having been abused "over there," havean understandable need to express their frustration, hurt and outrage to people they
know will understand. So, I say, let new members vent initially . . . The problem isthat we have had such a flood of new people that there has been no chance foranything else but healing. Not that Susans attack on Michael G, helped and Alix H,you could have come in a bit more softly with an introduction rather than whatseemed to be an attack. Justin seems to agree also by saying, what have we letour self into by expressing our frustrations and our experiences from certain peoplethere? That is, How do we know it is safe to express ourselves here, is there anyplace that they can not reach? I am learning that once a lie is created it has no way tolive unless it grows even bigger, that the only way to cover up a lie is to hide it withan even bigger one. As I learn about the capacity and willingness of some to use liesas a weapon, well I wonder is there any place that one is safe to express a free and
open opinion involving the Romanovs? all the wounded are gathering in safehavens such as this forum to lick our wounds and heal
Yes I found some name calling, but not all that much, things such as idiotic andinsulting (and worthless) thread and I cannot believe you are an admin. You are themost UNPROFESSIONAL admin ever, and you truly suck at your job. Orclassless, close-minded little folks whose lives revolve around visiting the site 500times a day to ridicule and denigrate others, after having read a few books that theycan't even be troubled to cite correctly. But considering that this is either quotingwhat was said to someone, or expressing personal feelings in response to something,well words expressed in reaction are judged by courts much less harshly than cold
cool deliberate slander.
As to if this is slanderous, well Keith seems to have wrapped that up with thiscomment, Due to some wonderful investigative journalists and private investigators,everything either Bob or Rob said to anyone, (and under every name he or Rob hidbehind), about Oma was documented, researched and tracked. So, friends. After along spell of not really knowing who to trust or what to reveal I am now donning thewar cry of Londoners and the world with respect to terrorism and encouraging othersto come back to post here without fear. And I agree with Penny when she said, Ido understand the need to "recover" a bit and to share traveler's tales of that place --but I think it important not to wallow in it. Which seems to bring us to the present
time.
Well except that while I was reading all the old stuff, new stuff popped up. It reallyseems that a tender point has been found judging from all the recent posts. And whileI can agree with Alix H in principle I dont find that the responses and commentshere were all that hateful in consideration of shared experiences. Expressions ofpersonal experiences and feelings over those experiences, Yes, but I do not findcarefully thought out expressions of hate toward anyone. Frustrations galore,certainly, however, I suspect that it all has to do with your point of view. I wouldexpect that friends of Bob and Rob would not look at this at all kindly, and would in
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fact expect them to react as Alix H has, and the fact that Alix H first read this threadand posted here seems to confirm that possibility. That one is a friend of Rob or Bobis certainly not a crime in any sense of the word, everyone needs friends. And I seeno reason that such a person could not be welcomed here as this is a place wheremore than one point of view can be tolerated. But then again I would expect thatbefore judging that one would research why what was said, was said. I hope that itwas just shock that brought out Alixs initial comments and that meaningful dialogand an exchange of points of view could still occur. Try putting yourself in to the
mindset of those who were hurt and came here for healing; is it any wonder that theyexpressed feelings of frustration and outrage?
Peoples personal experiences are not slanderous, although their experiences may notbe ones that you want to hear. Still they are that persons experiences, and as suchvery important to that person, and the expressing of them to a sympathetic audienceis highly therapeutic to all concerned. As such I feel that those who need this therapycan and should continue to express themselves here in this part of the forum. I see noreason why what happens here should be considered a detraction from the rest of thesite, which I am still wading through, and still do not have a real opinion on, otherthan vague romantic wishes, but I am learning. But rather like an activity that is going
on in one part of town, while you with a different need and interest experience atotally different activity clear across town. So for those who want more discussion ofAnastasia, well there are threads for that, for those who need to heal, then this iswhere you need to be until you heal.
The Malebolge
(Copied from the web)By: Mike NewsonProfession: I.T./Photographer
My story starts not with the Alexander Palace in Russia, nor even with RussianHistory, not even with the man, Mr. Robert (Bob) Atchison, who seems to claimownership of the Alexander Palace in St. Petersburg, Russia as well as that time inhistory made significant because it was the time of the last of Russian Czars. It startswith a woman --- a beautiful woman.
I met Her sometime around the middle part of 2003 through one of her assistantswho fell in love with my photography that had been published on the web. Theassistant and I had talked for many months previous and I kept sending her photosamples of my most recent shoots. Eventually she talked her boss into bringing me toCalifornia to do a photo shoot of --- Oma. Yes, Oma Hamou, the C.E.O. of EnigmaFilms, Inc., former model, as if The Oma could ever turn into a former anything;her beauty just changes, but never diminishes.
It is almost impossible to do a photo shoot that is more than a typical four pose,
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twelve shot portrait sitting without there being created a unique interaction betweenphotographer and model, and this time was no exception. Somehow as we workedtogether we clicked, and soon I was being fascinated by Omas dream to film a moviein Russia. Sure, I had been forced to read about the Last of the Czars in school, and itwas almost as appetizing as the school lunch.
Then I met Oma, who had this gleam in her eye when she talked about Russia. Herwhole body radiated excitement when she talked about what making the movie on
location would do for the city of Pushkin, and compared it with what happened to thetourist trade in New Zealand when the Lord of the Rings trilogy was released afterbeing filmed there. It is almost impossible to avoid catching fire once you areexposed to Omas excitement. A spark, no matter how small, is still a spark, andconsidering how excited I was in school, well --- this spark might as well have been aforest fire.
One thing led to another. I have had many years of experience in the computer field(I first learned about programming and computer technology, starting back in thedays of main frames that took up almost an entire building and that wereprogrammed with punch cards). Well, it was a no-brainer for both of us that I should
bring her web sites into the 21st century, so I started to work on her The SarskaiaFoundation dot org around October of 2003 and in a very short time I had convincedher that Sarskaia dot org was much shorter and easier for people to type. Soon afterthat I had the old site converted to HTML coded pages, with new graphics andrunning under the new domain name. At first Oma and I talked primarily by email,but as more complex changes were needed, this soon turned to many hours on thephone. At such times Oma would often wax poetic about her dreams to create a filmabout the Last of the Czars, and it was not long before she had instilled her dreaminto me well: a nice warm fire had begun to burn where once the artic cold of HighSchool history had resided. Soon it was as friends, rather than as client/consultant,that Oma and I interacted.
My first experience with Mr. Bob Atchison, of the web site called Alexander Palacedot org , the Bobby of Readers Digests Boy who Dreamed of a Palace fame,began shortly after I started working on Omas web sites, while searching the web tolearn more about this enigmatic woman who had captured my interest. At that pointin time there was not much to be found about Oma on the Internet, as her time in thesun as a model was before the Internet existed. So when I found this page that BobAtchison had posted on his Alexander Palace dot org site, of course I read it. Themain site was packed full of information, and looked impressive, especially to oneof recently awakened interest, so when I read what he had to say about Oma andhow she was evil and a criminal who committed fraud and scammed people out of
their money, my heart sank, as I had already invested many hours working with her,and had not yet been paid.
Mr. Atchison offered to share his sources, and to prove that he had published thetruth, with anyone who would ask. I had been working in the R&D department of apharmaceutical company and I knew from experience that you cannot take thingsyou find on the web at face value; you have to check out the data and verify itsaccuracy. Mr. Atchison was kind enough to respond when I asked him about hissources and gave me a single site where I could go and look up a debt that Oma owedwhich he said proved that she was out to scam people by not paying her bills. He said
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that he himself had been similarly scammed, and he did not want anyone else tosuffer as he had.
The first few paragraphs of that reference he had shared contained informationsimilar to what was claimed on Mr. Atchisons web page, and appeared to fully verifyhis claims. However, once I dug into later, more current, data lower on the same webpage, it became apparent that the things he said did not match up with that mostcurrent data. I wrote back that I had found some discrepancies in his references from
what he had reported. The result was shocking, to say the least: far from respondingas a nice gentleman would, Bob responded by blasting me with an accusation that Iwas Ms. Oma Hamou, and told me to never write him again.
I had walked blindfolded into my first skirmish in an ongoing battle between Omaand Bob, a battle whose battle field had now been taken to the Internet. It is hard tounderstand, and even now looking back on all this I am forced to ask, just why wouldsomeone like Bob Atchison attack a woman, Oma, like this? Why would he hate herso much? What is it that has driven him and those around him to attack asferociously, and as continuously, as they have, in a battle that has been waged formany years now?
Of course I talked to Oma about this and soon learned much of her background, notonly about her and Bob Atchison, but her personal past which does include acriminal episode where she wrote some bad checks while on the run with somesmall children from a (to put it mildly) abusive husband. At first I have to admit that Iwas as stunned with what she told me as I would be if I were a fish out of water. Noone person could have had such experiences. It was as if a drunk Hollywood writerhad collected nightmares from many people. But as time progressed I found that herstory, as wild as it sounded, was true, that she had documentation that backed up herwords (Oma is a pack rat when it comes to documentation). About this time manyquestions were flooding in to Oma because of the pages that Mr. Atchison had
pushed out on the web, as his site receives millions of visitors. I suggested that sheput up a Forum where people could talk and get questions answered, as there wasno way that a single web master could keep up with the flood of information usingstandard old static web pages.
The end result is that I spent many hours on this forum at Oma Hamou dot com as afriend of Omas, being concerned that someone who was innocent was beingattacked (even if it was only a verbal attack). I am very aware that words have thepower to hurt more than almost any physical attack, as words can keep hurting longafter the body has healed. I answered the questions about Oma that I knew theanswers to, and talked to her about things in her past that I did not understand, and
she opened to me as a flower opens to the sun. It was as if, once she found thatsomeone would listen to what she went through, she was compelled to share her pastwith me along with her dreams for the future, which deepened the friendship that wasdeveloping between us even more. The battle between Mr. Atchison and OmaHamou seemed to escalate. The more we defended Oma on her forum (wemeaning some of her friends and former employees), as her company was beingforced into a reorganization because of a loss of funding, most of us stayed andcontinued to help Oma as she was our friend and we shared her dream. Beyond ourpersonal friendships with Oma, I think that the innate tendency of true Americans tofeel for the underdog, the one being attacked by the bully, came to the forefront and
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we stayed on and defended her against this verbal attack. Anyway, the more weshowed on her Internet forum how what Mr. Atchison had said was wrong, the morethey (Mr. Atchison, his friends, and Pallasart associates such as Rob Moshein)screamed and ranted that they were right and we were wrong.
I was then subjected to personal attacks when it was falsely published on the OmaHamou Report dot org that I was working for Enigma around a year before I startedto work with Oma, and had lied to Bob, tricking him into showing me his proof about
Oma, back when I communicated with him for the first time ever. The author came tothis conclusion based on when the domain The Sarskaia Foundation dot org wascreated (Nov 21, 2002), not when it was modified because I became the technicalcontact, or when the domain I suggested and which I had stated I was working on,Sarskaia dot org, was created (Oct 22, 2003). Based only on that original creationdate on the wrong domain, and no matter how many times I said that they werewrong, no matter how many times I pulled up the whois data on the sites and showedhow the modified date on The Sarskaia Foundation dot org site matched the createddate on Sarskaia dot org, they still maintained that I had lied for some unstatednefarious reason. The implication for the thousands, if not millions, of visitors whohave seen this statement is that I am a liar, as the Oma Hamou Report dot org site
was linked to by a secret invisible link on main page of Bobs site which is linked toby the Encyclopedia Britannica. The further implication was that I must be evil also,and that what I said shouldnt be trusted.
At the time we were too close to the trees to see the forest, so it kind of went rightover our heads, but looking back there was a sort of religious fervor fanaticism,perhaps? -- in what they said about Oma Hamou, and the way they steadfastlyignored any evidence we submitted which disproved what they had said, typicallyclaiming that such was a fraud or somehow faked.
As I dug into Mr. Atchisons own data and sources and discovered that he had
misread the data, or intentionally misreported it (as seemed to be a growingconviction in my own mind), well it kind of turned out that I was becoming Ms.Hamous White Knight and jousting with words with Mr. Atchison and the peoplewho doggedly clung to the doctrine that Mr. Atchison espoused. In a way, it was as iftwo fervent and zealous missionaries from different sects were competing forconverts, as often happened back in history not many years ago: each standing on hisown soap box in the park, casting aspersions at the other, while not really listening tothe contrary view, each secure in his faith that he held the correct position. I did takethe time to look at what was said about Oma, ask questions, check out the data, andrefute what I knew to be false (while also acknowledging the kernel of truth that wasoften at the heart of what was said), although many times such acknowledgement
simultaneously meant that I justified that, yes, Oma Hamou did do wrong many yearsago; yes, she did write some bad checks; but that she also made restitution in full forher mistakes, and paid her debt to society. Actually, considering the circumstances,she paid many times over. From the perspective of a battered woman and motherdesperately trying to protect her children from harm, her being held in jail in lieu ofbail may just have saved her and her childrens lives. She was truly the Cinderellaprincess and the Rocky story rolled into one big roll of fudge and served up to thepublic. The climb from failure to winner is a classic American tale.
It seemed that, shortly after Mr. Atchison published on his own web site his beliefs
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regarding how evil Oma was, he consulted with an attorney, as he did remove thepages he had on his own site. Well, either that, or he realized that, between his storyabout Oma and his links to her on his site, that he was sending much traffic to Oma,and bouncing her new site sky high on Google and other Internet Search Engines.Anyway, his Hate Oma pages vanished from the pages of the Alexander Palace dotorg , to be replaced with a secret link on the main page to new websites, The OmaHamou Report, which began showing up on the Internet, hosted on free web pagesites such as Geocities. All claimed the exact same things that his Alexander Palace
dot org pages had claimed, but each time the pages became fancier.
Almost as fast as we could get a Hate Oma site removed from one host, the sitewould pop up somewhere else. One time, it showed up on Fr