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Page 1: BEA Confidential. | 1 Web of Services for Enterprise Computing David Orchard BEA Systems

BEA Confidential. | 1

Web of Services for Enterprise Computing

David OrchardBEA Systems

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Where are we in WS-*

Some papers at WS workshop in 2001 suggested:Variety of messaging, description, discovery specifications

Appear to be more than halfway thereMore standardization in the future

Mex, eventing, sml, discovery

Latest process: Fast-track tightly scoped specs

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Analysis of where are we

Has this process and architecture worked?

1.When will we really get multi-vendor interop?

2.Has standardizing @ W3C been useful?

3.Has fast-tracking building block specs led to coherent architecture?

Is W3C WS-Addressing substantially better than Submission?

Removal of identity and Ref Properties very concerning

What about current/upcoming specs?

What about integration?

WS-RX/WS-A use of anonymous and WS-Metadata in new WS-Policy

High perceived complexity (S is for Simple)

Architecture coherence vs Fast-track

REST vs WS-*, deferred for W3C TAG talk

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Thin Client Banking Use Case

Trading Service with Enrichment of Quotes

Classic WS-*: SOAP, WSDL

Large amount of enrichment as SOAP headers

Very high performance

“Classic” integration currently:

Java service, .net and Java clients

Want to reach more clients: Ruby, Python, various OSS

Not deployed yet:

Stacks do not publish as REST service easily

Unsure of “real” customer demand

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Client-Side REST Validation Use Case

Big “.com”s offer XML over HTTP

Sample app: Music Search

Specify artist, album, song, release year, rating, etc.

Human readable description of request in URI parameters & XML Schema returns

This works ok for a large site with “medium” # of combinations

Cycle of creating URIs, hitting “Go”, see what happens

Missing WS-*/WSDL style of generating client side stubs

Validates the data according to schema

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Client-Side REST Validation Use Case II

Client-side validation enabled with machine description

WSDL 2.0 is too complicated for a REST developer

interface/operations -> Binding/operations ->Endpoints

Many Operations (WS) vs Generic Operations (Web)

Can do site specific client validation

Libraries in multiple languages for each site

C++, Java, C#, Perl, Python,…

Imagine this for the enterprise

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Versioning

Ack!! Phhhlllt!

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REST DL

Libraries are *NOT* the answer for the enterprise

Interface Description is the answer

REST DL:

Productivity increase

Lower the barrier to entry for non-large .coms

Scale to large # services, ie “enterprise”

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Widgets, Portal & Discovery Use Cases

WSRP provide mechanisms for producing and consuming presentation oriented web services

Uses WSDL/SOAP

Next Gen remote user-interface seems to be widgets

Directories of Widgets: Konfabulator, widgetbox.com

Composition of Widgets:

Communication, state mgmt, security

Would be “better” to have declarative description of interactions

http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/leastPower

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Widgets, Portal & Discovery Use Cases II

Use Case: What is DL of widget

ie. ?wsdl

Use Case: Widgets supported by a site

Use Case: Integration of Widget DL into search engines

REST DL would help with every use case

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Web of Services for Enterprise aspects

Is the Enterprise different than Internet?

State, Security, Network Performance, Schema size, # of operations

How does this affect specifications?

Perhaps can do higher coupled solutions like Atomic Transactions

Two aspects to Enterprise vs Internet:

Make Web technologies more useful for enterprise

Make Web services more useful for Web clients

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Recommendations

W3C for Web-centric technologies

Descriptions, protocols, formats

Need better Web Description Language than WSDL 2.0

After that, discovery of Web Description Language

Examine Missing technology for:

Consuming REST from SOAP clients

Consuming SOAP from REST clients

Not sure about “Fast-tracking”

“Mid-tracking”?