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    What studies of elite athletes tell usabout promoting long-term

    development

    Joe Baker, PhDYork University, Canada

    www.yorku.ca/bakerj

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    Experts generally perform more training

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    Study 1:Decision-Making

    Expert vs. non-expert

    B-ball, F-hockey,N-ball

    Training history

    Hours training

    Other sports

    Study 2:Endurance

    Expert vs.intermediate vs. low

    Ironman triathletes

    Training history

    Hours training

    Other sports

    Training units

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Baker, Ct, & Abernethy (2003). J App Sport Psych, 15, 12-25

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    Baker, Ct, & Abernethy (2003). J App Sport Psych, 15, 12-25

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    Range 600-6026 hrs

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    174420963457Running

    172520655039Cycling

    65420353273Swimming

    Hours to Date

    Back-PackMid-PackExperts

    4123619612558Total

    Baker, Ct, & Deakin (2005). J App Sport Psych, 17, 64-78

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    174420963457Running

    172520655039Cycling

    65420353273Swimming

    Hours to Date

    Back-PackMid-PackExperts

    4123619612558Total

    Baker, Ct, & Deakin (2005). J App Sport Psych, 17, 64-78

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    174420963457Running

    172520655039Cycling

    65420353273Swimming

    Hours to Date

    Back-PackMid-PackExperts

    4123619612558Total

    Baker, Ct, & Deakin (2005). J App Sport Psych, 17, 64-78

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    174420963457Running

    172520655039Cycling

    65420353273Swimming

    Hours to Date

    Back-PackMid-PackExperts

    4123619612558Total

    Baker, Ct, & Deakin (2005). J App Sport Psych, 17, 64-78

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    174420963457Running

    172520655039Cycling

    65420353273Swimming

    Hours to Date

    Back-PackMid-PackExperts

    4123619612558Total

    Baker, Ct, & Deakin (2005). J App Sport Psych, 17, 64-78

    2188-99121390-129848004-19630Range

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    174420963457Running

    172520655039Cycling

    65420353273Swimming

    Hours to Date

    Back-PackMid-PackExperts

    4123619612558Total

    Baker, Ct, & Deakin (2005). J App Sport Psych, 17, 64-78

    2188-99121390-129848004-19630Range

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    Experts generally perform more training

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    Experts generally perform more training

    Experts training is higher in quality

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47Weeks of Training

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    1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47Weeks of Training

    Training

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    Days of Training

    Training

    Units

    ExpertsMid-pack

    Back-pack

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    Specialization vs. diversification

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    Hours of

    Training

    Baker, Ct, & Abernethy (2003). J App Sport Psych, 15, 12-25

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    Specialization vs. diversification

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    Specialization vs. diversification

    Importance of unstructured activity

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Baker, Ct, & Abernethy (2003). J App Sport Psych, 15, 12-25

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    3000

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    Accumulated Hours Hours Before Becoming

    'Expert'

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    1000

    2000

    3000

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    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Range = 600-6026 hrs

    # Sports = 3-14

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    PRACTICE/TRAINING

    GROSS SPECIFIC

    PRACTICE/TRAINING

    GROSS

    Qualities Developed During This Period

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    PRACTICE/TRAINING

    GROSS

    Qualities Developed During This Period

    Generic Skills/Capabilities

    PRACTICE/TRAINING

    GROSS

    Qualities Developed During This Period

    Generic Skills/Capabilities

    General Psychological Skills

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    PRACTICE/TRAINING

    GROSS

    Qualities Developed During This Period

    Generic Skills/Capabilities

    General Psychological Skills

    Intrinsic Motivation

    PRACTICE/TRAINING

    GROSS

    Qualities Developed During This Period

    Generic Skills/Capabilities

    General Psychological Skills

    Intrinsic Motivation

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    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    3. Early exposure to essential resources is critical.

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    3. Early exposure to essential resources is critical.

    The Relative Age Effect

    After more than a decade of research

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    Relative Age Effect in NHL draftees 2000-2005Baker & Logan, BJSM, 2007

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    Baker & Logan, BJSM, 2007

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    Effect in Canoe/Kayak National Team

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    Relative Age Effect (RAE)

    Summary:

    RAE has been found in a range of sports ice and fieldhockey, cricket, baseball, football, gymnastics (-)

    Possible explanations

    1. Older athletes experience more success.

    2. Older athletes more likely to be seen as gifted.

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    3. Early exposure to essential resources is critical.

    The Relative Age Effect

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    We can confidently say:

    1. Experts train differently than non-experts.

    2. Optimal development occurs when training ismatched to developmental status.

    3. Early exposure to essential resources is critical.

    The Relative Age Effect

    The Birthplace Effect

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Birthplace Effect

    Examined:

    The size of the town where athletes were born.

    Ct MacDonald, Baker & Abernethy, 2006;

    Baker & Logan, 2007

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    Birthplace Effect

    Population Size

    ExpectedEffect

    Size

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    Birthplace Effect

    Population Size

    Effect

    SizeExpected

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    Birthplace Effect

    Population Size

    Effect

    SizeExpected

    50K to 500K

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Conclusion:Size matters!

    top players are more likely to come fromcommunities large enough to build rinks, but not solarge that the demand for ice time outweighsopportunities to skate

    Curtis & Birch (1987) Sociol Sport J

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    What cant we confidently say?

    1. Any outcome can be achieved with enough training.

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    What cant we confidently say?

    1. Any outcome can be achieved with enough training.

    10 year/10,000 hour rules

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    What cant we confidently say?

    1. Any outcome can be achieved with enough training.

    10 year/10,000 hour rules

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

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    What cant we confidently say?

    1. Any outcome can be achieved with enough training.

    10 year/10,000 hour rules

    2. Talent doesnt exist.

    After more than a decade of research

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Improving Talent ID and Development

    TalentIdentification

    andDevelopment in

    Sport

    InternationalPerspectives

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Start small...

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    Improving Talent ID and Development

    TalentIdentification

    andDevelopment in

    Sport

    InternationalPerspectives

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Start small...but think big!

    Improving Talent ID and Development

    TalentIdentification

    andDevelopment in

    Sport

    InternationalPerspectives

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Start small...but think big!

    Planning

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    Improving Talent ID and Development

    TalentIdentification

    andDevelopment in

    Sport

    InternationalPerspectives

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Start small...but think big!

    Planning

    Building support

    Improving Talent ID and Development

    TalentIdentification

    andDevelopment in

    Sport

    InternationalPerspectives

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Start small...but think big!

    Planning

    Building support

    Evaluation

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    Improving Talent ID and Development

    TalentIdentification

    andDevelopment in

    Sport

    InternationalPerspectives

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory

    Start small...but think big!

    Planning

    Building support

    Evaluation

    Accumulate evidence

    Questions/Comments?

    Contact me:www.yorku.ca/bakerj

    [email protected]

    Lifespan Health and Performance Laboratory