asav newsletter june 2011

American Shagya Arabian Verband Newsletter

June 2011

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Kristen ~ First 75 Miler ~ Dancin’


As Valerie Bullock, our VP points out, ASAV is at a criti-cal cross roads. Do we move onto the next rung of the organizational development or

are we stuck as a simple mom & pop oper-ation? This upgrade is noteworthy, as it happens all the time in the real world and as Valerie points out, many fail or just settle in at a low level of achievement/performance. The strive for Democratization of an organi-zation is nothing new, especially in the horse world. We all know of many organi-zations that have followed that route, and once failing in their efforts, just fade over time. Unless your memories are very short, some of you have already experi-enced this stage of organizational develop-ment in recent times. I don't think I have to remind you of the anxiety, anger, distrust, and a sense of betrayal that many of you feel even today. Sunday we do have a crucial BOD meeting that begins the process of modifying our bylaws. The universal concept is to give the membership full power in the running of this organization (pure Democracy in ac-tion). This is your organization and no one else‘s. I would also like to show the accomplish-ments of this organization over the past year in several bullet statements:

Our bank accounts contains about $4,500

and growing.

We have had a successful National Meet-

ing, which was attended by many and MADE money.

Our membership is holding its own and

we have even picked up considerable number of members in specific regions, even in these bad economic times. For instance, the Pac West has 21 members and I could easily bring in another 4-5 before the summer is over.

Our registry continues to grow. I have

and will be signing 11 new registration papers in a week.

ASAV has had booths and supported nu-

merous events: Pacific Northwest Endur-ance Rides, Pacific Coast Arabian Sport Horse Classic, Arabian Sport Horse Na-

tionals.

Once again, we are Silver Sponsors of the

American Endurance Ride Conference. ASAV publishes an elaborate newsletters four times a year.

We have the best horse organizational

web site on the market. Thank you Denis. This board has worked hard to bring this about in a short period of time. Sincerely, Kilian Dill ASAV President NW Director

Message from the Vice President

Dear Membership, Thank you Karla and the newsletter com-mittee for another fine issue. The Shagyas definitely have a niche in the endurance discipline. Our smiling ―Cover Girl‖ says it all. We certainly have had several interesting months. Your association is experiencing ―growing pains‖ of the worst kind. It is just as hard to move a mom and pop business out of the ―founding stage‖, to the next level of administration, as it is, an organization. A few make it, but the statistics show that most do not. Good ideas only go so far. At the next level it takes a huge investment of money, time, focus, commitment and a team whose primary purpose is the building up and administering the association in a way that serves it's expanding member-ship. The ―baby business or association‖ has to move over, let go, or join the team and be willing and open to new directions, new rules, new ideas and lots of new peo-ple. ASAV is here. Your association has peaked at 57 members. As I write, it is tee-ter-tottering. Where do we go from here? As I see it, there needs to be a more equi-table balance of power. The association is walking and talking, can read, write, and even have healthy debate even if it is caus-tic at times. Any one of you have teenag-ers? Rules and Regulations are still in ef-fect here but they must be fair, balanced and equitable or there will be wholesale mutiny. In response to that, some of your BOD's and members have volunteered to clean up, re-write and bring the bylaws into the digital age. There is a also a concern

that there are no written Rules and Regula-tions that give the bylaws clarification. Or at least the established ones are not all written in one document. This is not an easy task. The most important one being proposed now, is to allow the membership to vote on changes to the bylaws and the Articles of Incorporation if necessary. As it is current-ly, the BOD has all the authority. I believe that the membership is full of bright, talented, and well educated folks. We have wisdom and diversity as well as lots of experienced business professionals with good ideas, who could bring a lot into the group, if allowed. There is a special meeting of the BOD on Sunday night that will address the proposal ―2011 Voting Rights Act‖ and hopefully a vote in favor of the membership. The pro-posal has been posted to the entire mem-bership. If you able to join the phone con-ference, you may only listen at this point. No comments or voting by the membership in this meeting. I believe the association's balance is cru-cial to the passing of this amendment. If this amendment passes it is the plan of the bylaw committee to do the rewrite in full and present the finished upgrade of the bylaws along with a Rules and Regulations document, to the membership for approval.

Most Sincerely, Valerie Bullock ASAV Vice President District 2 BOD

ASAV President’s Corner

Inside this issue:

President’s Corner 1

Endurance News 2

Membership Stories 5

Advertising 11

Contact ASAV 12

By Kilian Dill


Our First 75 Miler - 7th Place! by Kristen Camper

I debated whether I should do another year of 50 milers - trying my best to top 10 them or should I move up to 75's to keep the slower longer distance go-ing? The 75 miler won out. We went to the Spring Fling at the Sandhills in South Carolina. We ended up travel-ing through the night and arriving around 10:30 or 11:00. The ride man-agers were fantastic as was the state park management. Super friendly.

The morning started out with vetting in, so I was a bit worried about no warm up and very concerned about the speed at which the 75 milers would start out. Lily was great at the start even though we continue to use the bitless bridle and I was very pleased to find the start speed was slower than the 50's I have been to. The only issues we had last year were tack, well actually girth, rubs. So I rigged up my bareback saddle which is dressage style, with a western mo-hair girth. It was loose and the buck-

les tore my calves up but Lily looked like she had not been ridden at all at the end of the ride. So I will have to start riding in half chaps!

The weather was perfect and Lily was doing so well that after the second loop and almost half way done her heart rate was in the low to mid forties after just a few minutes. The vet asked if we had really done that loop? She continues to amaze me, and I continue to learn more about her style. She seems to want to get out after checks quickly, then settle in behind someone who is going about the right pace and will stay with them until the last 2-3 miles before camp and then she pulls ahead. She eats well at checks and drinks great. After we are in a good balance with each other for a while I try to post on the other diagonal and she hates this a lot. So I am going to try and just change after checks or water breaks. She is so focused! I often think of the song that goes "Ain‘t nothing gunna break my stride, Ain‘t nothin gunna hold me down Oh No! I got to keep on movin." I think that is her mind set.

We ended up vetting right in at the fin-ish, with her heart rate right on tar-get. I didn‘t even have to sponge her down. And to my surprise we came in 7th! On our first 75 miler! I had even brought a Lite Bright for my daughter and we finished before it was dark. We ended up doing this 75 miler in about the same time as our first 50 and she looked the better at the end of this ride than she ever had. With all that has been going on in my life lately I consider myself to be so blessed to have a horse that is so constant and steady and well..... just what I need.

LC Stetson by Donna Coss Lily Creek Stetson and Brian Coss came in 9th place at the Old Dominion 55 mile--AERC ride in Virginia. There were 80 riders and a 76% completion

rate. Brian also won the Buckle for First Middle Weight. Stetson was in good form, threw two Boots, which took him away from the leaders, but had them replaced and thanks to his fine, hard Shagya hooves, the loss didn't affect him for very long. He is a barefoot horse most of the time, but uses the Easy Boot Gloves for racing.

Horus by Katie Millholland

RWR Horus (Bold Bravo x Spiritualitee-ox by Pattrone*) was very out of shape when he first arrived last Octo-ber for endurance training. He would get tired and sweaty just trying to avoid getting caught. And to go for a ride on top of that, are you insane! There were

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Kristen Camper and Lily (LC Dancin’) at their first 75 miler - the Spring Fling at the Sandhills in S.C.

Photo taken by Becky Pearman.

Brian Coss and Lily Creek Stetson came in 9th place at the Old Dominion 55 mile AERC ride in

Virginia. Photo taken by Donna Coss.

Horus and his rider Dean Hahler at Mt. Adams pre-ride inspection.


rides where poor Horus would just stop and say ―no more‖. This is a very nor-mal reaction to the introduction into the world of endurance. He got ponied several times a weekend and then rode once or twice. He learned to like the buckets of grain the best. One fate-ful day he got a bath instead. This really made him mad. Baths are not on his list of acceptable things to do. Next he got partially body clipped, like any self respecting endurance horse should. Again he was not happy with this new form of torture - he stood for it though. As time went on he started getting bet-ter and better on the trails - minimal spooks and he even seemed to enjoy himself. Things were looking good and he was well on his way to being in shape for his first race. Then one con-ditioning ride he tweaked his ankle when he was almost back to the trailer. As a result he got some time off from training, However, it didn‘t get better. A chiropractor looked at him as his shoulder seemed to be giving him some trouble as well. Come to find out, Horus was way out all over his body. This cycle of ‗ride - go lame - get adjusted‘ went on for a few months. Finally something freed up in his hips and back and he has been moving soundly since. Horus still gets regular visits from the chiropractor just for good measure. In March he did his first 50 mile ride at ―Home on the Range‘ in eastern Washington. As one would expect, it was very new to him. Upon arriving he was a bit excited and antsy about eve-rything. He had his buddy Fire along and since Fire didn‘t care he calmed down. He camped well. The day of the ride came and Horus was really amped up. Fire and Horus started to-gether to help Horus through his first start. The first mile was pretty intense for Horus as the first ride usually is. He followed Fire and started to figure it out. When they split up Horus took it like a trooper and settled into the

rhythm. He finished each loop well and was eating well. At the end of the day a very tired and happy horse and rider crossed the finish line. Eight hours and thirty-three minutes was their ride time. He was sound and healthy. A good night sleep then we were off for home with some tired and stiff horses. Next up was the 50 mile race at Mt. Adams. Mt Adams went really well and was done without a riding buddy. Ho-rus ran slow and steady and finished in eight hours and forty minutes. Horus looked good and came through his second race like a trooper. He is offi-cially an endurance horse.

Sun Arab Stables’ New Arrivals by Daunna Sellers It has been a busy spring here at Sun Arab Stables. Bayram babies started with the new year, with SA Antares foaling SA Altair outside on January 10

th with the high of ten degrees. Lil Al

is now growing like the weeds here in KY.

Next came SA Aalayhee (Bayram x PA Artistry ox) in April.

Then Flojo (Anglo-Arabian) had Franc in late April.

SA Julia (Anglo-Shagya) just foaled SA Jett, a nice colt. Her dam, Jeeka (tb) foaled Julia, another Bayram baby.

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SA Aalayah (Bayram x PA Artistry ox)

SA Franc (Bayram x Flojo)

SA Julia (Bayram x SA Jeeka)


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Meet the Directors by Donna J. Coss

My father gave me a little chestnut mare when I was about eight years old. He purchased her at an auction and figured she was well broke as she had a saddle mark on her withers and a half circle with ML brand on her hip. He made a good choice as Dixie and I rode many miles, until her retirement, about twelve years later.

I did not have any formal riding les-sons, but I still showed in several west-ern shows, and we managed to bring home a few blue ribbons. I was the typical horse crazy girl and practically lived in the barn with my horses and the three foals that Dixie produced.

I lived very close to Babson Arabians and knew many of their horses--even bred to one of their stallions. When I studied conformation, these horses have always remained in my mind's eye, the ―perfect‖ type. They were not what is commonly seen today in the Arab world, these Arabians would more fit our Shagya breed standard.

After my marriage, I purchased horses for my children from the local sales barn and they all learned to ride. Brian on his little Indian pony, and Jody on a half-Arab gelding, Tango, I had pur-chased for only fifty five dollars. He turned out to be long lived and cher-ished by many who rode him, as he could easily have won a versatility award, being a horse for any discipline. Jody continued her interest in riding and became interested in endurance. I was at Jan Worthington and Grace Ramsey's farm near Galena, IL. one day, when a new mare they had pur-chased needed attention. The mare, China, had been turned into a paddock and immediately went through a wire fence. She was cut up from head to tail with serious, but not life threatening body cuts. I spent an hour hosing her off and really liked her conformation and decided to purchase her if they would sell her. She had an impressive

pedigree and as it turned out was the perfect endurance horse with plenty of aptitude and attitude. China had an interesting personality! I was riding her once, when she jumped up in the air and performed a capriole movement-I stayed on, but barely. Jody said, ―oh she does that all the time, she is just happy‖!

A family discussion took place, con-cerning China and who would be the perfect stallion to breed her to? I stated that, ―I had been reading about the Shagya, but where to find one‖? My son, David, stated he knew of one in southern Illinois—a girl friend had rode at Dr. Kamarasy's farm, when attend-ing the university, and she had been impressed with a Shagya stallion, named BOLD BRAVO.

Thus began my journey into the Shagya world and the creation of LILY CREEK RIDGE. China was indeed bred to Bravo, I met Egon and Nancy Skakel and both Jody and I were astonished with Sarvar, Szamos, and all the others. I purchased SUMMER PFF, leased Sarvar and his full sister, SONATA PFF. I made a decision to breed purebred Shagyas, but at the same time I would purchase some Thoroughbred and sport horse type mares to breed to SARVAR--hopefully to produce a larger, taller mount that would be sold to finance the purebred endeavor. I had purchased an 80 acre farm in 1991, had purchased some Tennessee Walking mares, but Jody, kept saying, ―they are boring‖! I was ready to go with my first love, the Ara-bian, but as it turned out, it was an Arabian breed, that possessed many of the great qualities of this breed, with few of the undesirable traits. I was hooked!

I was very fortunate to have Lazlo Mo-nostory and Dr. Egon Kamarasy as mentors. Lazlo was the last living Hun-garian stud manager Egon and Lazlo always gave me support and there were memorable times when they visit-ed my farm. I learned so much from

them when we evaluated my mares and their foals. I always remembered the Babson Arabians and how im-portant legs, feet and conformation are to a fine, ride worthy mount and this was always my breeding goal.

To have SARVAR PFF, in my opinion, one of the best Shagya stallions pro-duced in the U.S. as my first stallion, was a blessing. He was such a kind stallion, easy with the mares and so wonderful to handle, at the time we considered him a miracle, only to find that almost all Shagya stallions share his great temperament. His foals have gone on to win in many sport horse disciplines and because of their ability to perform well very few have ever been re-sold, also a testament to their great character.

These sport horse, half Shagya cross-es have won, even divisional champi-onships, in the Hunter and Jumper world, mainly ridden by young girls. The experience of handling these young horses and selling them to the performance world only solidified my observation that these crosses are what is needed for young riders. You receive the size etc. from the mare, but temperament appears to be the most affected.

One of my mares, was a Dutch Warm blood, a daughter of CONSUL, with an impossible disposition, but royally bred. She had actually been donated to a rescue organization because of her unruly demeanor. Her foals bred to Sarvar were docile, kind and wonderful to work with. Her foals did win, one of them, even on the demanding western Hunter show circuit, ridden by a 13 year old girl. One of the TB/Sarvar crosses even won a state divisional championship and repeated this suc-cess many times. Her rider was also a young girl!

At this time, I also purchased two Ara-bian mares of mainly Polish descent. I had visited many of the Arabian farms because of my photography business

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Member Stories and was always a student of pedigrees and bloodlines. DYNAMO'S DANCER, was a fortunate choice, as there are three national champions in her line that leads back to + (i.e. Milordka) A daughter, LILY CREEK DANCIN', was 19th in the 2010 AERC championship race and has an amazing record under an amateur rider.

All of the Arabian and sport horse mares were purchased strictly from their pedigrees and most of them were from hardship homes. The two aged Thoroughbred mares were half starved, standing in a field of bare corn stocks, but their heritage background attested to strong lines. Not a large amount of money was needed to add them to my herd.

I had visited Europe with Dr. Egon Kamarasy twice and then made more trips in search of Shagyas to import. I believed that the U.S. desperately needed new bloodlines. *DANTE, *KS TRIBUTE AND *KS RUBIN came to the U.S. In 2001. I took a chance at weanling colts, but they had the criteria of successful parents with the correct conformation—how could I go wrong? The Conradtys', Dr. Walter Huber, Ruth Pack and Poldi Woegler were only a few who assisted me with my search and because of their expert knowledge, I feel the three stallions were prudent choices. The visit to Ba-bolna and the expert translation by Egon, of Tamas Rombauer, stud man-ager, was invaluable to me as here was the living history of the breed laid out before me.

I was unsuccessful with *OMAN breed-ing although I did have his daughters in my herd. I also imported frozen semen from Bahadur and produced LC BA-TAAN and LC BRIELLE. The Lily Creek horses are doing well all over the U.S., South America, Mexico and Canada, and often I feel rewarded by communications from those who have my horses. They have won hearts and won awards and that is what breeding horses is all about and also the satis-

faction that you have produced what to many are treasures and ―the best horse I have ever had‖! And this, I can take no credit for, because this breed is special and different and you will find this out, only when you have your own Shagya! +Footnote – Milordka http://www.arabhorse.com/article/beloved-one-the-story-and-legacy-of

The Ongoingness of Now at Willomar by Dr. George W Allen Gina Cook, daughter of Dr. Allen, is the trainer for Kilian and Drena Dill. The Willomar farm is in Mossyrock (western Washington) down near Mt. Adams and Mt. St. Helens. The farm was es-tablished by Dr. George and Lynn Al-len. Dr. Allen purchased and syndicat-ed *Pietuszok from Tersk stud for a million dollars. Dr. Allen has worked with European governments over the years and was a judge at many nation-al Arabian shows. If one views the ped-igrees of the horses in this article, one quickly sees the relationship to the Shagya breed as many were used both ways over the years. The Allen training legend continues over the years as the couple mentors many young horsemen and women. In the literature of the Ara-bian breed the word type has, in my opinion, caused more confusion than any other word. For the purpose of this essay we will define "breed type" as those characteristics that are specific and unique to the Arabian breed. These characteris-tics include the head, neck, top line, quality, and way of going. The head is to be triangular; it is to be wide at the eyes and re-fined at the muzzle. A dish below the eyes is

desirous; a Roman nose is most unde-sirable. The eyes should be large, soft, and set well apart. The neck should be well shaped, clean at the throat latch and very mobile at the pole. The top line should be quite flat with emphasis on a short strong back and powerful croup. Quality includes dryness; i.e. the skin being very tight over the rest of the body and a soft hair coat. The motion should be elegant, very elastic, and liquid in its portrayal.

There are very practical reasons for all of the above characteristics. An attrac-tive triangular head with large eyes that are well set apart indicates intelligence and a desire to please. Since the neck and head are the horses balancing mechanism, the neck needs to be clean at the throat latch and well hinged at the pole to allow the horse to stay in balance with ease. A short strong back indicates a clean line for the energy of impulsion to travel and drive the horse forward. Length of croup, and the depth of hip and croup, are important for the horse to perform as an athlete. Dryness is that quality that expresses hard dry dense bone, hard dry tendons and ligaments, clean joints and a soft supple skin and hair coat. These characteristics were what attracted early day cavalry men to in-clude the Arabian breed in the produc-tion of their horses, for these charac-

WM Narax (Pistachio x Nihani) the day after delivering her 2011 Main Smoke foal.


Member Stories teristics were what gave soundness to their horses in the long marches. In the desert, the horse was bred to be an athlete and often the horses life depended on this ability. When all of the characteristics of type are in place and are in harmony, then liquid fluid motion, the kind that could cover de-sert sand all day, is the result.

If we are then to apply the above defi-nition of type to the horses we come in contact with today, we then need to recognize that the breed is made up world-wide of a number of different "types" or flavors of Arabian horses within the "breed type". This occurred because each tribe from Arabia creat-ed a different "type", or flavor to suit their own purposes (much as we cre-ate different types of automobiles). To use terminology that is common in Eu-rope, these different types are identi-fied by the names: Kuheilan, Seglawi, Managhi, Hadban, and others that are lesser known. The Arabian breed is a very old breed and due to the physical-ity of its origin (i.e. isolation in the de-sert over a long time and especially isolation of the individual tribes), the genetic base of the breed is very con-centrated and the various types are therefore genetically very prepotent. It is therefore of great importance that the creative breeder recognizes the various types and their contribution to the whole. It is not productive for the breeder to judge all horses in the breed against one type, or model, for in doing so the breeder eliminates much of value that could contribute to his or her program.

As an example, Negatiw was by the noted Seglawi sire Naseem, and out of a Menaghi mare, yet he contributed greatly as a sire of significance in both Russia and Poland siring horses of Excellent Seglawi type. Seglawi horses are of strong oriental type, having triangular heads, large expressive eyes, well shaped necks, very round body parts, and great beau-ty. Common examples of this model

are the Raffles and Skowronek bred horses, the Naseem bred horses such as Negatiw and his offspring, and many of the horses originating from the Abbas Pasha stud.

The Kuhailan horses usually have more elongations through the head and are more angular in structure, of-ten with more emphasis on a strong system of levers. They are often long-er through the croup and hip area with some slope to the croup. Examples of this flavor are the Kuhailan Haifi hors-es such as Bask, to include many of his offspring, and the Priboj horses such as Pietuszok. Horses of the Hadban flavor are hors-es of good size with large muscle mass, substantial bone, and a good system of levers. Their heads are ex-pressive but often somewhat large. Examples of this flavor are some of the Crabbet horses such as Nuredinn and Berk. The Managhi flavor horse, while not very common in America, are im-portant to the breed as a whole. The-se are horses with a very strong sys-tem of levers, great angulation, longish and rather plain heads, great stamina, and great speed. Examples of this flavor are some of the horses of the Latif sire line including Kann and Korej.

In North America, the Seglawi horses became very popular in the 1950s and 1960s and then, as it were, breeders of this flavor of Arabian horse estab-lished the terms of "breed type" for the entire Arabian horse breed in North America in reference to their favorite flavor of horse! Indeed, careful study will indicate that "breed type" at that time emanated from the Polish bred Skowronek, used in England by Lady Wentworth at Crabbet Park. Later, in the 1970s, with the importation of the Polish horses, Kuhailan type came to be recognized, though often judged with reference to Seglawi type rather than as Kuhailan. More recently, im-portations from Russia and France

have introduced horses of the Managhi flavor which are outstanding athletes, but are again judged with reference to Seglawi type. To be sure, then, we have four com-mon and distinct types or flavors of Arabian horses. Plus we have combi-nations of the various types. It is up to the astute breeder, then, to determine as accurately as possible what types he or she is dealing with, and what combinations are most successful. As an example, strongly bred Kuhailan stallions cross well on Seglawi mares. Bask, when bred to many of the beautiful Siglawi mares of domes-tic breeding in this country produced many national champions. Interesting-ly enough, the opposite rarely holds true, i.e. breeding strongly concentrat-ed Seglawi stallions to Kuhailan Haifi mares of good quality very rarely pro-duces superior horses. Certainly many of the artisans, i.e. the serious breeders of the breed, recog-nized the various types within the breed and utilized them on occa-sion. Line breeding Seglawi type in America was very common in the 50s and 60s and produced many wonderful horses. An example of these horses were those of Mr. Dan Gainey, who line bred strongly to a small number of superior Seglawi sires and thus fixed a specific Seglawi flavor as his landmark in the breed. It was interesting to watch him use Bask (Kuhailan) blood with little apparent success. However, when he introduced the Seglawi Kuhailan blood of Comet into his pro-gram, he and his family produced beautiful national champion athletes. Now that we have established and de-fined the various types within the breed of the Arabian horse, the next task is to delineate the combinations of the above types that have proven to be successful in producing excellent hors-es. One of the most exciting combina-tions in the last 50 years was that of the Seglawi stallion Nabor (Negatiw x Lagodna) on the Seglawi bred Amu-


rath Sahib daughters of Poland. An example of this cross was the multina-tional champion mare, Dorna-ba. Mares of this combination were famous all over the world. In line breeding Kuhailan type the Poles used the Kuhailan Adjuz stallion Pietuszok (Priboj x Taktika) on their beautiful Witraz (Kuhailan Haifi) daughters and produced not only beautiful national champion offspring, but also Derby winning race horses.

Of more recent times, the Poles used the Seglawi son of Aswan, Palas (out of Panel by Nil), on many of their Seglawi mares and produced world champions such as Etruria (out of Et-na). Panel was a daughter of Platina who was a full sister of Pietuszok. In Russia, the breeders were highly suc-cessful in crossing the Seglawi blood of Naseem on the Kuhailan bred Priboj mares. Examples of this combination are Pustinia (Salon x Ptashka), Palmi-ra (Salon x Ptashka) and Muscat (Salon x Malpia). Mares and stallions of this combination have contributed greatly to the breeding system in Tersk and in North America.

The Bairactar sire line, utilizing the small but exotically pretty bay Seglawi stallion Nabeg (Arax x Nomenklatura by Naseem), was then used on the Naseem Priboj mares. The offspring of this combination were often very pretty and most commonly of Seglawi type. You will find this line represent-ed through Stop the Show and TR Narvina at Willomar.

One would expect more breeding pre-potency from colts by the Seglawi stal-lion Nabeg out of Seglawi mares such as Nariadnaia (Aswan x Nomenklatura by Naseem) and such proved to be the case. At Tersk they used colts out of the good-sized Priboj Naseem mares to carry on the Bairactar sire line. Horses such as Peleng (Nabeg x Palmira by Salon) and Pesniar (Nabeg x Pesnia by Aswan) were excellent examples.

The Bairactar sire line was car-ried on in Poland with the impor-tation of Tallin (Nabeg x Talan-tiviaia by Aswan). He was used principally on Seglawi mares with good success and his grandson Emanor (by Wojslaw by Tallin) is the 1999 US National Champion stallion. Emanor is a horse of superb Seglawi type. It stands to reason then, that in our Arabian population we have horses line bred strongly to Kuhailan type, horses line bred strongly to Seglawi type, and to a lesser extent, line bred to the other types. There are also horses of Seglawi Kuhailan combination with Seglawi being the most obvious phenotypically (the visible properties of an organism that are produced by the interaction of the genotype and the environment), and those that are Kuhailan Seglawi with Kuhailan being the most promi-nent phenotypically. It behooves the breeder, then, to understand what type he or she is dealing with in relation to the pedigree in choosing viable mat-ings with high chances of success. At Willomar it has been our desire to produce horses of superb Arabian type that would be successful in classical athletic competition. To this end we have line bred Kuhailan type. We used the linebred Kuhailan type stal-lion Pietuszok (Priboj x Taktika by Taki Pan), the linebred Kuhailan type stal-lion Rezus (Celebes x Rezeda by Czort), the Managhi type stallion El Kasaka (Patron x Purga by Kankan), and the Kuhailan Seglawi stallion Py-atigorsk (Pietuszok Dwa x Mystical lady by Tornado). In recent years we have added the Seglawi Kuhailan stal-lion Alkalia (Probat x Alka by Celebes) and the Seglawi stallion Pistaschio (Salon x Panntera by Kniazj). Our brood mares are predominately line-bred Kuhailan type. Too, one will find a group of mares in our band linebred

to Arax (Amurath Sahib x Angara) on the maternal side concentrating Kuhai-lan Seglawi type from the great mares of Arax. Only recently have we intro-duced Naseem blood to our program with outstanding success, just as the Russians did so long ago on their Priboj mares. Pyatigorsk, a significant sire of the Kuhailan Adjuz sire line of Russia and Poland, has been a principle sire in our program for many years. He crossed well with Kuhailan mares such as daughters of Bask, i.e. Star of Ofir and mares of the Seglawi I line including the daughters of Aswan and the daughters of El Kasaka. Pyatigorsk was not particularly successful with the Seglawi mares of the Raffles branch of the Ibrahim sire line nor with mares of old Abbas Pasha breeding. Pyatigorsk was always very useful on line bred Kuhailan mares of good quality. In our experience, stallions of the Naseem sire line are often difficult to train because of a short attention span. We chose Pistaschio because he had been a successful race horse setting some track records and also he was out of the same family of mares that had produced Pietuszok and To-pol. Some of his geldings have be-come excellent 4-H horses which gives some indication of the soft quality of

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Five year old gelding, Nadallion (Main Smoke x Nedana). This gelding was trained and shown

by a 16 year old amateur.


their minds. His foals out of strong minded mares are more difficult to train. He has produced exceedingly well bred to daughters of Pyatigorsk, an example being Spirited Music out of Kalua by Pyatigorsk, presently racing in California. Kuhailan type has been instrumental in producing horses of superb type and superb athletic ability. Kuhailan Haifi sire line horses are presently numer-ous in the Arabian horse population because of the tremendous success of the Bask bred horses. The addition of Kuhailan Adjuz blood on these horses has been very successful in Europe and is worthy of consideration here.

An update to the breeding essay of years ago is now worth while. Two are-as of knowledge are now of value. The first is the number of breeders who have used the genetics of our program to produce horses of superior type, quality and classic athletic ability. The second area is what we have pro-duced to this end since the first essay. We would like first off to speak of our fellow breeders successes. One of the oldest farms to use some of our program was Carl Fudge et al of Stur-geon Creek Arabians who have pro-duced a number of outstanding endur-ance horses including the national champion endurance horse Reason To Believe (Pyatigorsk x Resza by Re-zus). This gelding also represented the US at the world equestrian games in Malaysia . Carl and crew have pro-duced an awesome number of horses competing in 100 mile rides, with a very enviable rate of completion. An-drea Deane of New Mexico produced Main Smoke ( Ghazni x Jaina by Pyati-gorsk) , a colt we have used very suc-cessfully here at Willomar. Andrea has recently purchased the mare Pan-dora (Pyatigorsk x Sophisticate by El Kasaka) and bred to the Monarch A H son, Imagine That Ma, with outstand-ing results. Imagine That Ma is out of Orla's ( by Pietuszok) family. Dennis Hanson and family of Idaho purchased

many of Willomar's line bred Priboj mares and has had spectacular re-sults, producing Believable Dream (Pistachio x Believe In Me by El Kasa-ka) and the outstanding colt, Kold Fu-sion ( Pistachio x Kute n Kool by Oratus). Dennis now has an envia-ble group of line bred Priboj fillies by Main Smoke and Monsour (Main Smome x Ma'Amoiselle by El Kasaka). Another endurance enthusiast is Keena Van Horn and her husband Mike. They presently have a Main Smoke filly in training out of their Wik-ing daughter and have recently pur-chased an Arpan (Kumis x Plennitsa by Aswan) grandson to add to the ge-netic pool .

Willomar has, for the last number of years, operated a small grass based breeding operation and have contin-ued on with the program. We continue line breeding to Topol and Pie-tuszok plus added some Naseem with the addition of Pistashio (Salon x Panntera). We chose Pistaschio be-cause he was a stakes winning race horse ( not all of the Salon son were trainable) and produced soft minds for the most part. His greatest contribution for us was four full sisters out of Nihani (El Kasaka x Bint Nepokornaia) These mares, line bred to Arax, are excellent brood mares producing classical ath-letes.

The mare families still used here are Harpia (Pietuszok x Arfa by Witraz,) Ida (Efar x Daida van Lissen-hof), Sil-ver Charm (Bajram x Silwara), Pos-lannitsa (Nabeg x Pesnia), *Sabellina (Abu Afas x Sabda), Metropolia ( Priboj x Mammona) and Nepokor-naia (Arax x Nepreklonnaja). It is in-teresting how these mare families con-tinue to produce classical athletes when covered by our line bred stal-lions.

Out of the Silver Charm family came Pygmalion( by Protocall), world eques-trian games endurance horse for the US team in Aachen, West Germa-ny. From the Ida family we have

Kasydasun (by Protocall) presently competing as a three day event horse under the capable guidance of Britt Roden. Kasydasun was bred by Dar-rel Allen here in Washing ton. The Sabellina family has produced out-standing endurance horses including the Tevis cup completion. The Pos-lannitsa family produced outstanding brood mares whose offspring by Main Smoke can be seen with Dennis Han-sen and family. The Harpia family pro-duced dressage horses and the Nepokornaia family presently has horses competing in three day events.

Our goal has always been to produce horses of classical type that are suc-cessful in classic athletic competition. To this dream we have remained steadfast. History has shown that outstanding Arabian horses, successful in athletic competition, can add significantly to sport horse breeding programs. We of recent years are participating at a three day event stable. To us it seems that our purebred Arabian horses can be very successful at the lower and sometimes intermediate lev-els of this classical sport. However, we are sure our brood mares can, crossed with the proper warm blood and thor-oughbred stallions, contribute to pro-ducing world class athletes for this dy-namic sport.

Getting to Know a Shagya by Karla Kerekes and Robert Dullinger

When I moved back to Colorado after living in Kentucky for several years, my first priority was finding a place to board my horse, SA Menkent (Bayram x SA Enif). I wanted it to be a place where there weren‘t too many other horses and one that was run by some-one that didn‘t mind helping a green-horn improve. After almost giving up, I met Robert Dullinger through a friend of a work acquaintance. He owns a 35 acre spread near Vail, CO and boards a handful of horses for friends as well as having four of his own - including a

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Member Stories and Farm News nice German Warmblood. He was kind enough to agree to take on one more boarder and the inexperienced owner that came with him.

Robert has been around horses most of his life. By his count he has had somewhere in the neighbourhood of 30 horses of different breeds and siz-es. He rides Western, but prefers Eng-lish. He competed in hunter/jumper classes, cross country and low level dressage with his Thoroughbred geld-ing. There are lots of ribbons in his tack room that he and his daughter won in shows around the state.

His favourite pastime is riding out on the trails - over mountains, meadows, streams - enjoying the gorgeous scen-ery and wildflowers from a well man-nered, athletic, surefooted, beautiful horse like Kent. Robert grew up in Austria and loves the diligent breeding and wonderful performances of the Lipizzaner's. He thinks the Austro – Hungarian Cavalry did an amazing job developing such a versatile horse as the Shagya. By the way, Robert had never heard of a Shagya before Kent came into his life - even after growing up in Austria.

According to Robert, when Kent ar-rived in August 2008 he was a little anxious and jumpy in his new and un-familiar environment. Robert was not exactly bowled over. Although Kent never really gave Robert any trouble, for the first six months he just seemed

like your average horse. By the time spring 2009 rolled around, Kent had made it through his first Colorado win-ter and had settled in to his new home. To help keep Kent in shape, Robert rides him two times a week. We both appreciate Kent‘s natural talent and willingness to work. Between Robert and I, Kent gets to jump, do dressage and go out on the trail.

Robert recently told me ―That‘s the best all around horse I have ever worked with. And he is so sweet, kind, respectful and appreciative. It is a true pleasure to be around him. He is a wonderful horse to work with. He is sound in mind, body and spirit. He is well balanced, has great feet, good bone structure and best of all, he pos-sesses a wonderful disposition.‖

Kent has established his place in the herd and the hearts of all those who get to know him. I am so lucky Kent came into my life. My thanks to Daunna Sellers for making the dream I had as a little girl come true. I am so fortunate that my first and only horse is a Shagya.

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