mitzvah habah baverira the stolen soda updated
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The Stolen Soda
Question: is it wrong to make a bracha on stolen food?
Yesterday’s Discussion
The Debate..• You should still make
a bracha on something you stole…just because you stole from man does not mean you should steal from G-d also!
• Two wrongs don’t make a right!
The Debate is based on the following gemara…
N o n -
k o s h e r
& M A K E A
B R A C H A
Ra’avad
• If you are getting enjoyment from the food, why shouldn’t you make a bracha…even if you stole it…
Summary: The Argument
• Azi/Ben– It is a good idea to make
a bracha on a stolen object
– IT IS NOT HYPOCRITICAL
• Barth/Avi– It is a bad idea to make a
bracha on a stolen object– IT’S HYPOCRITICAL
3rd Opinion – The Tashbatz
Tashbatz
• Bad Breath– Yes it is hypocritical…but you should
still make a bracha
Problem With Ra’avadGemara – Baba Kamma 96a
• You stole wheat kernels and ground them into wheat…and now you want to separate Challah from them and say the bracha of “hafrashas challah”…”this is not a bracha it is a curse…”
Another Version of B”K
• The version in the Tosefta clearly implies that the problem is with making a bracha upon eating the food, because of the hypocrisy involved. However, there are two ways to understand why one is absolved from making a bracha:
• The version in the Tosefta clearly implies that the problem is with making a bracha upon eating the food, because of the hypocrisy involved.
To summarize, there are 3 positions in the Rishonim
• 1. Ra’avad, R’ Yonah – make the bracha, because, hey, if you enjoy the food, you’re obligated to make the bracha.
• 2. Tashbetz, Rosh – make the bracha, even though it’s hypocritical, because you’re not absolved from the obligation to make a bracha just because you stole the food.
• 3. Rambam, Rashba (Paskened by SA) – if you’re violating something by eating, then your bracha is an act of hypocrisy and you’re better off not making it.
What is the purpose of a Bracha?
B r a c h a
Ask permission from G-d to Enjoy His World
Recognize G-d in World via
Gratitude to Hashem for Creating a World Filled
with Pleasure
It’s worth pointing out
• The Magen Avraham, and in his wake Mishna Berurah, advocate bentching in such a situation for two reasons:a) we’re machmir on a Biblical obligation like bentchingb) in a case where he didn’t realize it was not-kosher until after eating it, there’s not ‘curse’ involved (this is directly against the Rambam, I might add).
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