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Jun 19th, 2014 | Category: VC Community |27 Comments

Article submitted by: Nuala Kazakov

First off, I would like to warn avid readers of Agatha Christie that Ive included major spoilers in thisarticle.

Like many authors of series or multiple books, Agatha Christies novels follow patterns. Sometimes a

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character is similar to one from another novel. Sometimes the main plot is the same. Ive been readingAgatha Christies novels for years, and Ive had the chance to pick up on a few of these pattern.

The pattern Id like to write about in this article is the pattern of esoteric communities and groups ofthe elite. I will be discussing four of her books in particular (I havent read all of her books, so theremay be others that contain these themes): Passenger to Frankfurt , They Came to Bagdad, The BigFour, and Destination Unknown.

Agatha Christie was born into an upper middle class family. Her exposure to the semi-upper stratummay have helped her see things in a certain light. I would like to see if this light could potentiallyprovide us with a new perspective about esoteric groups we are familiar with.

In the three books I have included in this article, she clearly expresses a sympathy towards themasses. Agatha Christie frequently expressed her views through the heroines point of view in hernovels. In one of her books, They Came to Bagdad, the heroine witnesses a man speaking about hisplans for subjugating and brainwashing a large portion of the world by his secret society. Her internaldialogue after hearing this:

Surely those were the things that mattered the little everyday things, the family to be cooked for, the fourwalls that enclosed the home, the one or two cherished possessions. All the thousands of ordinary people onthe earth, minding their own business, and tilling that earth, and making pots and bringing up families andlaughing and crying, and getting up in the morning and going to bed at night. They were the people whomattered, not these Angels with wicked faces who wanted to make a new world and didnt care who theyhurt to do it.

pg. 168, They Came to Baghdad, Agatha Christie

So what does Mrs. Christie have to say about esoteric communities?

Destination Unknown:

Destination Unknown deals with a secret group running a large, well hidden illegal laboratorysomewhere in Africa. Many doctors and scientists have fled here secretly to study and provideresearch for the group in charge of the laboratory. Many of the scientists we hear about in the bookhave fascist, communist and idealist views. Some are researching delicate subjects (lobotomies andmind control are hinted at).


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A scientist that fled his country shares his views:

pg. 144 The scientists must be the masters. They must control and rule. They and they alone are theSupermen. It is only Supermen who matter. The slaves must be well treated, but they are slaves.

The heroine speaks to another scientist about his views on the world:

pg. 147 Do you like being dragooned, being ordered about, having no say of your own?

Im prepared to accept it if its necessary. And it is necessary. Weve got to have World Peace, WorldDiscipline, World Order.

And another character talks about the manipulation of the mind occurring in the laboratories:

pg. 225 Speaking about drugs that subdue and induce docility Im inclined to think the effect isproduced mentally. I mean that I think some of these organizers and administrators are well versed inhypnosis and psychology and that, without our being aware of it, we are continually being offered somesuggestions of our well being, of our attaining the ultimate aim (whatever it is), and that all this does isproduce a definite effect. A lot can be done that way, you know, if its done by people who know their stuff.

After hearing a moving speech about how the laboratory plans to revolutionize and aid the world (aninteresting thing to point out is that the man delivering this speech, thought to be the man running theshow, is in fact just another underling working for the real head of the institution. This is a classicexample of how the top of the pyramid is never really seen):

pg. 151 For a moment Hilary understood. For a moment she stood where she stood, impregnated with thatsingle-hearted desire for knowledge which swept aside life and death for millions of human beings asessentially unimportant. It was a point of view, and not an ignoble one.

The heroine speaks to the man behind everything. An excerpt from their conversation:

pg. 267 But you cant send out a scientist just as you can send out a typist.Why not?

Because once your scientist is in the free world again he could refuse to work for his new employer. Hewould free again.

True, up to a point. There may have to be certain conditioning shall we say.

Conditioning what do you mean by that?

You have heard of leucotomy Madame?


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Hilary frowned. Thats a brain operation, isnt it?

But yes, it was devised originally for the curing of the melancholia. I put it to you not in medical terms,Madame, but in such terms as you and I understand. After the operation the patient has no more desire tocommit suicide, no further feelings of guilt. He is careful, conscienceless, and in most cases, obedient.

It hadnt been a hundred percent success, has it?

In the past, no. But here we have made great strides in the investigation of the subject. I have here threesurgeons: one Russian, one Frenchman, and an Austrian. By various operations of grafting and delicatemanipulation of the brain they are arriving gradually at a state where docility can be assured. And the will canbe controlled without necessarily effecting mental brilliance. It seems possible that we may in the end socondition a human being that while his powers of intellect remain unimpaired, he will exhibit perfect docility.Any suggestion made to him, he will accept.

Leucotomies happen to include snipping nerves in the brain to treat mental illness. A completeturn-around in character is usually a side-effect.

A little more on this man behind everything:

pg. 280 This Aristides, he has a finger in every pie. He is behind nearly everything. The banks, thegovernment, the manufacturing industries, armaments, transport! One never sees him, one hardly hears ofhim! He sits in a warm room in his Spanish castle, smoking, and sometimes he scrawls a few words on apiece of paper and throws it on the ground and a secretary crawls forward, and picks it up and a few dayslater an important banker in Paris blows his brains out! It is like that.

How wonderfully dramatic you are. But it is really not very surprising. Presidents and ministers makeimportant pronouncements, bankers sit back behind their sumptuous desks, and roll out opulentstatements but one is never surprised to find out that behind the importance and magnificence there issomewhere some scrubby little man who is the real motive power.

They Came to Bagdad:

This novel deals with a secret society that Agatha Christie describes as a third party or group workingunder cover and so far absolutely unsuspected by the world at large.

The book was published in 1951 (before the cold war), so the group previously mentioned is mainlydescribed as driving a wedge between two countries that seem as though they are on the verge ofreconciliation (U.S.A and the U.S.S.R).

pg. 90-92 There are two divergent points of view dominating different parts of the world. That is trueenough. And they are represented loosely in the public mind as Russia and the Communists, and America.Now the only hope for the future, Victoria, lies in peace, in production, in constructive activities, and notdestructive ones. Therefore, everything depends on those who hold those two divergent view points, eitheragreeing to differ and each contenting themselves with their respective spheres of activity or else finding amutual basis for agreement or at least toleration. Instead of that, the opposite is happening. A wedge isbeing driven in the whole time to force two mutually suspicious groups farther and farther apart. Certainthings lead one or two people to believe that this activity comes for a third party or group working undercoverand so far absolutely unsuspected by the world at large. Whenever there is a chance of agreement beingreached or any sign of dispersal of suspicion some incident occurs to plunge one side back in distrust or theother side into definite hysterical fear. These things are not accidents, Victoria. They are deliberatelyproduced for a calculated effect. But why do you think so and whos doing it? One of the reasons we


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think so is because of money. The money, you see, is coming for the wrong sources. Money, Victoria, isalways the great clue to what is happening in the world. As a physician feels your pulse to get a clue to yourstate of health, so money is the lifeblood that feeds any great movement or cause. Without it, the movementcant get any headway a third point, enormous sums of money seem to be going completely out ofcirculation all over the world a great demand for diamonds and other precious stones has arisen. Theychange hands a dozen or more time until finally they disappear and cannot be traced. This of course is onlya vague sketch. The upshot is that somewhere a third group of people whose aim is as yet obscure arefomenting strife and misunderstanding and are engaging in cleverly camouflaged money and jeweltransactions for their own ends. We have reason to believe that in every country there are agents of thisgroup, some established there many years ago. Some are in very high and responsible positions, others areplaying humble parts, but all are working with one unknown end in view. In substance it is exactly like the fifthcolumn activities at the beginning of the last war. Only this time, it is on a worldwide scale.

But who are these people? Victoria demanded. They are not, we think, of any special nationality. Whatthey want is, I fear, the betterment of the world. The delusion that by force you can impose the Millennium onthe human race is one of the most dangerous delusions in existence. Those who are out only to line theirown pockets can do little harm mere greed defeats its own ends. But the belief in a super stratum ofhuman beings in supermen to rule the rest of the decadent world that Victoria, is the most evil of are allbeliefs. For when you say I am not as other men you have lost the two most valuable qualities we haveever tried to attain: humility and brotherhood. in the past two years 28 promising young scientists ofvarious nationalities have quietly faded out of their background. The same thing has happened withconstructional engineers, with aviators, with electricians and many other skilled trades. Thesedisappearances have this in common: those concerned are all young, all ambitious, and all without closeties. Besides those we know of there must be many, many more. And we are beginning to guess atsomething of what they are accomplishing and yet there are still obscure parts of the world remote fromtrade routes, cut off by mountains and deserts in the midst of peoples who still have the power to bar outstrangers and which are never known or visited except by a solitary and exception traveller. Things could goon there, the news of which would never penetrate to the outside world or only as a dim and ridiculousrumour

pg. 166 And as she stared at Edwards unmasked face, she knew suddenly what Carmichael had meant byLucifer. She knew what he had seen that day as he looked along the passage to the consulate gardens. Hehad seen that young beautiful face that she was looking at now for it was a beautiful face: Lucifer son ofthe morning, how art thou fallen.

pg. 167 Its a new world Victoria. A new world that will rise out of the muck and ashes of the old.

Tell me.

He told her and in spite of herself, she was almost carried away, carried into the dream. The old bad thingsmust destroy each other. The fat old men grasping at their profits impeding progress. The bigoted, stupidCommunists, trying to establish their Marxian heaven. There must be total war total destruction. Andthen the new heaven and the new earth. The small chosen band of higher beings, the scientists, theagricultural experts, the administrators the young men like Edward the young Siegfrieds of the newworld. All young, all believing in their destiny as supermen. When destruction had run its course, they wouldstep in and take over. It was madness but it was constructive madness. It was the sort of thing that in aworld shattered and disintegrated could happen.

But think, said Victoria, of all the people that will be killed first. You dont understand, saidEdward. That doesnt matter.


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Passenger to Frankfurt:

This novel, written to mark Christies 80th birthday, includes the word Siegfried quite often. It is mainlyportrayed as the opera by Wagner that is based on the story of Sigurd in Norse mythology. It beginswith a ring that is able to create gold (kind of like the alchemical process). Throughout the novel,Christie often speaks of a project, titled Project Benvo, or Benevolence. In essence it is a brainoperation that makes the patient a very calm and benevolent person.

pg. 57 They whoever they are work through youthBut youre blind, too. There are bandages over theeyes of youth. They cant see where things are taking them. Whats going to come next? Whats in front ofthem? And who it is behind them, urging them on? Thats whats frightening about it Its so frightening, thissame idea that always recurs. History repeating itself. The young hero, the golden superman that all mustfollow. She paused, then said, Same idea, you know. The young Siegfried.

Although almost all of Christies books deal with a simple who-dunnit murder, this book does not.Therefore, a large portion of this book is dedicated to monologues and conversations based on topicsof the people funding revolutions, experimental work, golden youth, the Young Siegfrieds,the truthbeing unpalatable, and the great mystery of who is running the world behind the scenes.

A little more about Project Benvo:

pg. 182 there is something that can change a man in his outlook on life his reaction to people and to lifegenerally. He may be in a state of homicidal fury, he may be pathologically violent, and yet, by the influenceof Project Benvo, he turns into something, or rather someone, quite differentHe wishes to benefit others.He exudes kindness. He has a horror of causing pain or inflicting violence. Benvo can be released over a bigarea, it can affect hundreds, thousands of people if manufactured in big enough quantities and if distributedsuccessfully

How long does it last? said Colonel Munro. Twenty-four hours? Longer?

You dont understand, said Miss Neumann. It is permanent.

pg. 167 He mentioned it after talking about some operation that they used to do on peoples brainsAndhe said that the side effects were impossible. I mean, the people were quite happy and meek and docile anddidnt worry anymore, or want to kill themselves, but they well I mean they didnt worry enough andtherefore they used to get run over and all sorts of things like that because they werent thinking of anydanger and they didnt notice it.

This sounds like a mass programming of people to separate them from their natural feelings of fear,anger and questioning, things that we have been using since the beginning of our existence to helpus realize we are in a bad situation, in danger or in trouble.

The Big Four:

There arent as many credible ideas on esoteric communities in this book (the main characters dealwith four people running everything, and are able to easily escape them over and over again), but


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there is a little bit on mind control here. Of course, this is one of her earliest works, first published in1927.

pg.26 He came to me once, this chemist, and I could see he was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Hehinted to me of experiments on which hed been engaged in Li Chang Yens palace under the mandarinsdirection experiments on coolies in which the most disgusting regard for human life has been shown

Coolie was a term used to describe the Chinese (or Asian) slaves imported to the Americas by theBritish. These slaves were generally manual laborers.

If you look into Agatha Christies books knowing what to look for, you stumble upon some veryinteresting ideas. These ideas support a number of common theories or themes we talk or hear aboutin todays world. Agatha Christie was clearly familiar with the ideas of mind altering, programing andpersonality adjustment (Monarch mind control?) as well as the New World Order and a few esoteric,secret communities. Her work on these subjects is worth a read.Sources:

Morgan, Janet P (1984), Agatha Christie: a biography, London: Collins.Mandel, Mike, and Chantal Zakari. They Came to Baghdad. Watertown, MA: EighteenPublications, 2012.Christie, Agatha. Destination Unknown. Thorndike, Me.: Center Point Pub., 2012.Christie, Agatha. Halloween Party; Passenger to Frankfurt; The Thirteen Problems. Sydney:Lansdowne, 1980Christie, Agatha. The Big Four. Toronto: Bantam, 1986

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1 week ago

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1 week ago

That's because a lot of young people don't read anymore, which is a real shame

1 week ago

Or.. don't read Agatha Christie.

1 week ago

Hahaha yes. I'm 26 and read like a mad man but I don't read Agatha Christie.

1 week ago

Perhaps this article might persuade you to give it a go?

1 week ago

I'm 18. I've read Agatha Christie books, James Herriot, Forget You Had a Daughter... from books about the true stories ofAmsterdam prostitutes to the Born Free series. So do a few of my mates, but it's probably because we were home schooledand ever so cultured....

1 week ago

Bit agist of you, I'm 16 and I read a ton and I've read some Agatha Christie books.

1 week ago

Great articleIn fact these articles on VC are some of the best on the internet today in which you can't find them elsewhereas they are coming from real and independent peopleFunny how many of the people in the older generations were much more perceptive than the younger generations nowAgatha Christie knew something was up and it bothered her enough that she had to write about it into her books which says a lotOne day they might not even allow her books or they will be edited

1 week ago

Wow, seeing the dates of when these books were written makes me realize how long the elite had been devising their really messed up mindcontrol agenda. How messed up they are to think they are god's. After the events in the book of Revelations takes place, they'll soon realize whatthey're not. Great article. Maybe do a second part once you read the other books you mentioned that you didn't read. Is the author still alive?

1 week ago

I have to say.. I've only gotten through the first book in the article (i'm at work) But way to go! So well written, intriguing, and informative! Can'twait to finish the rest!


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1 week ago

In Passenger to Frankfort, Christie's brilliant scientist, who had created the drug, "Benvo" says, dramatically, that it would be "Against God!" toallow it to be used to calm down the masses...but then the supposedly wise old man who is one of the few members of the group that is seekingto control the angry masses protests that this drug SHOULD be used, that hiding it away would be wrong. So, the reader is left with a very clearconception that Agatha Christie, in her waning years, had come around to accepting the idea that the "masses" should be controlled,artificially...so long as it was done by the hands of a presumably moral group of leaders, operating very much "behind the scenes".When I read this book recently, for the third time over several decades of reading various Christie mysteries, I was shocked to realize that herconclusions were different from those she had reached in her earlier books, on this same issue. In those books she had been adamantly againstthe artificial modification of behavior in humans, by any elites. But by 1970, when she wrote about "Benvo" the drug that created a state ofbenevolence in those who took it, she no longer seemed to feel this manipulation was immoral. It is a very upsetting thing to read, given how herearlier views were very much against interfering with anyone's free will, to find their own way to behaving in a moral fashion towards those aroundthem. I wonder about her contact with "higher ups" as she and her second husband were travelling in circles that would have exposed her toplenty of what we now call "elites". Did she just get dull in her moral awareness from age, or did she get worn down by hearing this Luciferic lineof reasoning over the years? People usually grow wiser with age, so I am guessing that Christie eventually lost what had made her properly valueindividual freedom to choose between good or evil actions.

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1 week ago

Perhaps she didn't write the later books. We don't know what kind of contracts big time authors are made to sign. How dirty are publishinghouses? Anyone in the know?

1 week ago

Yes. No less dirty than any other area of the entertainment industry with a veneer of respectability applied.

1 week ago

What's interesting is that this was in a way her last book. It was written to commemorate her 80'th anniversary.

1 week ago

sorry, I meant it was supposed to be published along with Poirot and Marple's last books, after her death.

1 week ago

Thank you, this is very well-written. It's amazing, once you learn about mind control and secret societies running things, you start to findreferences both veiled and blatant in so many diverse places.

1 week ago

there is a treasure of such information if we go back through some of the "classic" (and forgotten) writers of the last century, especially thosemore traditionally connected to "Imperial" days/travels/families. definitely worth some research for those unfamiliar.

superb write-up, thanks for sharing, NK!!!

1 week ago

Hey do you guys remember that Agatha Christie book where there's a woman with Multiple Personality Disorder. She has totally different


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personalities and it's super "mk ultra" the way she writes about it. I can't remember the name of the book! But i thought it really interesting!

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6 days ago

was it the hound of death?

6 days ago

Thanks for the article. The Illuminati's attempt a new world order is not new at all. Agatha Christi was keen to include it in her works. Check outVC's article on Bernays.

5 days ago

Well done!! :)

4 days ago

this really reminds me of a speech by dr john coleman. in it he touched on things such as: secret biolabs in the most difficult to reach areas ofafrica; divide and conquer pertaining to any worldly powerful countries that are more or less to be guided into destruction and weakening toultimately keep britain as number one dominant power, so cold war suddenly makes sense; and i recall him speaking about very deliberatedestruction of steel industry in the usa, among others.there are a few john colemans, but one i mention looks like droopy... really.


3 days ago

he wrote books on Tavistock Institute and The Committee of 300.

4 days ago

How about her mysterious disappearance? Any other info besides the Zio-wiki ones?

4 days ago

These well-respected, role model authors and pariah types are a strange bunch but it is extremely hard to scratch beneath the surface. EnidBlyton and Beatrix Potter were also dysfunctional through and through. Mrs Beeton (famous in the UK for housekeeping advice) was a latter dayMartha Stewart type of figure who contracted syphilis and died before she was thirty.


3 days ago

What do you mean by Enid Blyton and Beatrix Potter being dysfunctional through and through?

1 day ago

All our Literary agents are from elite families. This doesn't happen by chance. They go to these Universities and are taught the propagandagarbage. The high up's are taught esoteric knowledge. If they are Rosicrucians then their books are shroud with cryptology. Only the adepts candecipher.


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