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5EMA hilo system, and EA Idea
Firstofall,IwanttothankSterlingforintroducingmetothe5mahilochannelsystem.Ihavechangedafewthings,moretomystyle,andcomfortlevel,andwithlessrisk.
Theideaistoputa5emahigh,anda5emalowonachart,anytimeframeyouwant,andthisformsachannel.Whenpricemovesoutofthechannel,welookforcandlesfullyormostlyoutsidethechannel.Iprefersmallrangecandlesandnottoenterthetradeifthesetupcandlegoeshalfwayintothechannel...weneedroomforittomove.Abreakofthatcandleintheopositedirectiontriggersanentry.Stoplosswouldbe1pipaboveorbelowthesetupcandle.Profittakingisupfordiscretion,butusuallyitatleastreachestheoppositechannel.Ifcountertrendingonemightthentakefullprofits,iftrendtradingpartialprofitscouldbetakenwithSLsettobreakeven.aslongascandlesgointheprofitdirection,stayinthetrade,onceareversecandle,orsetupismade,thenclosethetradeandreversewithpropersignal.Ilookforfollowthroughandmomentum.Ifafter2or3barsyou'restillnotinprofit,itmightbeagoodideatoexitbeforeyourSLgetshit.Inmostcasesyou'llseefollowthroughonthenextcandleafterentry.
Ihavefoundthatwhilenoteverytradeisprofitable,thatmanyare,especiallywhenwelookforcandlesoutsideofthemediumrange,preferablysmallrangecandles,atthetoporbottomofaswing,soourSLissmaller.Alsotherearetimeswhenthissystemworksgreat,andothertimesinextremetrends,ortightrangesitdoesn't,butIhavethisideathatsomeonewithgoodcodingabilityandpeoplesideasforprofitabilitythatfinallyaprofitableEAcouldbecoded.Anytakers?I'mnotacoderyet,althoughI'mevertemptedtolearn.
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Here'sascreenshotofthelastcouplehourstoday,on6pairs,M15....highprobability,lowrisksetupsforsomepips.I'msurprisedthismethodhasn'tsparkedanyinterestorresponse.....Isitmywinningpersonalityorwhat?
AlthoughIalsouseothertradingmethods,mostlypriceactionrelated,Ialsokeepaneyeonthissystembecauseofthehighprobabilityofshortrange(smallSL)islandtypecandlesontheswinghigh/lows
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Orthisone,ontheH1AUDUSDPair
SomeofthesesignalsarentidealforwhatIlookforastheSLisbigenough,buttheywould'vebeengoodforsomepips.Someofthesesignalsarenoneothertheninsidebars,andplentyofpeopletradethebreakofthese...Ilikesmallinsidebarsinconjunctionwithpinbars,toindicateareversalisprobable.
Here'sthetemplateIuseifanyoneisinterested
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WillALWAYSlooklikea'Tunnel'YoucouldhaveTraded.
ProblemisthattheMAisbeingPlottedAfterPriceFluctuationmovesit.
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ie.ItisaHistoricRepresentation.
Q.Howdoyouutilizethatinfoto"Predict"thefuture.
A:MeasureSlope.{butSlopeisbynomeansaguaranteeofsuccess.}
InotherwordsThePricecannotescapeyourH/LMA'sbymuchasyouarerecalculatingthemevery5Bars.IsuggestpayingattentiontotheSlope{steepness}ofyourMA'smayimproveyourquest.
Thisistrue,toanextent,butonceacandleisclosed,thatmovingaveragevaluewon'tchange..Itradethebreakofclosedcandlesoutsidethechannelidealy,oratleastontheouterbandofthechannel,andyes,agoodangleonsomethinglikeema60mightindicatethatatrendisinaction,butema5issoshorttermthatitcangofromangletoflatinveryshorttime,thus,myreasoningisthatifanentirecandlecanformoutsidethischannel,ormostlyoutsidethisfast,movingaverage,thenbreaktheopositedirection,thatpricehadmovedtofast,toofar,andmaysnapbacktomediumatleast,orpossibleevenreverse....Ihaveprofitednicelyfromtradingthisbutyouareabsolutelyright,it'smucheasiertopickoutthewinnersafterthefact.
Imaystartpostingsomeofthehighertimeframe,A1typesetupsifIseethemdevelope
ThanksforyourinputBemac!
heybrothanksforsharing..itseemsinterestingandplainsystem!
illtrythisfollowingdaysespatUJpair..
frugal
Hi,ThissystemremindsmeofDeanMalone'sSynergy.However,heusesaHeikenAshisetupwiththe5ema's.IlikeyourapproachofattackingthepotentialturningpointonthePA.Haveyoutriedthisonthe1mor5mTFwithsuccess?Thanksforsharingyourmethod.Cliff
Quotingdbeach777Thisistrue,toanextent,butonceacandleisclosed,thatmovingaveragevaluewon'tchange..Itradethebreakofclosedcandlesoutsidethechannelidealy,oratleastontheouterbandofthechannel,andyes,agoodangleonsomethinglikeema60mightindicatethatatrendisinaction,butema5issoshorttermthatitcangofromangletoflatinveryshorttime,thus,myreasoningisthatifanentirecandlecanformoutsidethischannel,ormostlyoutsidethisfast,movingaverage,thenbreaktheopositedirection,thatpricehadmoved...
I'llcheckoutDeanMalone'sSynergysystem,Ihaven'treadaboutityet.
CheckouttheEUM1chartabove
TheM1andM5timeframesarenotasacurateatM15andup,asittendstogetchoppyquicker,buttherehavebeentimeswhenI'vetradedM1andM5withthissuccesfully,butithelpstoknowsomethingmoreaboutmarketactionlikeSupportandResistence,pricereactiontocertainmovingaverages,PPZetc...thatswherediscretioncomesintoplayandthatssomethingyoucan'tcodeintoanEA.TheidealsetupasI'vesaidbeforeiswhenastrongcandlemovesfar,outofthechannel,thenthenextcandleissmall,(setupcandle)thenthenextcandlebreaksbackintothechannel...Youcan'tknowwhethertheywillworkoutornotastheyaredeveloping,butthegoodthingisR/R,astheSLgenerallyissmallerthenpotentialpipgain,and,moresetupsworkout,thennot...
Anotherchart........checkoutthecandlesmarkedwitharedcheckmarkthatdidn'tworkout.
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Hi,ThissystemremindsmeofDeanMalone'sSynergy.However,heusesaHeikenAshisetupwiththe5ema's.IlikeyourapproachofattackingthepotentialturningpointonthePA.Haveyoutriedthisonthe1mor5mTFwithsuccess?Thanksforsharingyourmethod.Cliff
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I'mstillwaitingtoseeifanyonewantstoprogramanEAforthissystem....???Rulesare,setupbarsmustbeatleast75%outsideofthechannel...entertradesonabreakofthesetupbar,towardsthechannel,butonlyifthebreakhappensonthenextbar,StopLosswillbe2pipsmorethentherangeofthesetupbar,TakeProfitwillbemultichoice,withfirsttakeprofiteitherasetamountofpips,oratouchofoppositesideofthechannel.
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Aloalo,
Maybeyoushouldtrythetsdmaniacs,lol
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Cheers
B
Learnsomethingdifficultandearnrealmoneyforever,alot.
Quotingdbeach777Isitmywinningpersonalityorwhat?
lol?
I'mstillwaitingtoseeifanyonewantstoprogramanEAforthissystem....???Rulesare,setupbarsmustbeatleast75%outsideofthechannel...entertradesonabreakofthesetupbar,towardsthechannel,butonlyifthebreakhappensonthenextbar,StopLosswillbe2pipsmorethentherangeofthesetupbar,TakeProfitwillbemultichoice,withfirsttakeprofiteitherasetamountofpips,oratouchofoppositesideofthechannel.
ThisismorelikeDeanMalone'sSymertricsystemforPAonutube...
Helloeveryone,Justwonderingifanyoneisstillusingthissystem,ifsohowlongandwhatareyourresultslike!
KingPippin
I'mstillverymuchinterestedinthissystem,butIalsoconsiderthatthereareotherviablereasonstoentertrades,liketrendlinebreaks,S/Rbreaks,and60emabreaks,asortoffloatingS/Rline.Thekeyalsoseemstobethatitsnotasignalunlessthehighorlowofthesetupbararebroken.Thepresenceofdivergenceseemstomakeitabettersignalbutnotalwaysnecessary.TakingprofitsisdiscretionarybutaminimumTPlevelseemstobeatouchoftheopposite5emahilochannel.Idon'ttakethisasastandalonesystem,butaddittomytoolsoftradingtogivemethatedge.LetsrevivethisthreadandupdaterealtimeSetups.
Cheers,andaHappyHolidayseasontoall!
p.s.thesetupbar(pinbar)justbeforethetrendlinebreak,neverbrokethehigh,soatradewouldn'thavebeenentered,andthusaloseavoided
QuotingkingpippinHelloeveryone,Justwonderingifanyoneisstillusingthissystem,ifsohowlongandwhatareyourresultslike!
KingPippin
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Haveaplaywiththisone.
Thebotisprogrammedto:
1. spotaclearbreakoutofthechannelbythepreviouscandleithastobothopenandcloseoutside2. breakoutlong:waitforthemarkettoretracebelowthelowofthesetupcandlethensell3. breakoutshort:waitforthemarkettoretraceabovethehighofthesetupcandlethenbuy4. ifStopLossisleftatzero,stopis1pipabove/belowthehiloofthesetupcandle5. ifTakeProfitislefttozero,tpistheoppositeMA.Inanycase,thebotwillclosethetradeattheoppositeMA,solongas
thetradeisinprofit.Thisfunctioncanbemadeauseroptionifyouchoose6. MaxCandleLengthisthemaximumsetupcandlelength.Thedefaultof20ispureguesswork7. therearetheusualmptmstylemanagementfeatures.Ifunfamiliarwithmptm,theuserguideisavailableinthethread
linkinmysignature8. thebotautomaticallyaccommodatespipsinputstoxdigitcriminals,soentertheseinproperpips
Thebotkeepsontakingabathinbacktesting.Onforwarddemo,ithastaken4tradesontheEUM1chart,withthreeofthembeingsuccessful.Iwouldnothaveexpectedthis.
Icancodemostthingsthesedays,sosingoutifyouwouldlikefurtherrefinement.
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