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    Too Crazy To

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    Submitted by Tyler

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    periodically putting

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    the scariest data points

    about the US economy.

    Today is one such day, and

    the list of 50 economic

    numbers presented is

    indeed, as the author puts

    it, "almost too crazy to

    believe"... Almost. As

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    ,

    homes the conversation

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    From theEcopnomic

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    The followingare 50

    economic

    numbers from

    2011 that are

    almost too

    crazy to

    believe....

    #1 A

    staggering48

    percentof all

    Americans are

    either

    considered to

    be "low

    income" or are

    living in

    poverty.

    #2

    Approximately

    57 percentof

    all children in

    the United

    States are

    living in homes

    that are either

    considered to

    be "low

    income" or

    impoverished.

    #3If thenumber of

    Americans that

    "wanted jobs"

    was the same

    today as it was

    back in 2007,

    the "official"

    unemployment

    rate put out by

    the U.S.

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    would be up to

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    11 percent.

    #4The average

    amount of time

    that a worker

    stays

    unemployed in

    the United

    States is now

    over 40 weeks.

    #5One recentsurvey found

    that77 percent

    of all U.S. small

    businesses do

    not plan to hire

    any more

    workers.

    #6There are

    fewer payroll

    jobs in the

    United States

    todaythan

    there were

    back in 2000

    even though

    we have added

    30 million

    extra people to

    the population

    since then.

    #7Since

    December

    2007, median

    household

    income in the

    United States

    has declined by

    a total of6.8%

    once you

    account for

    inflation.

    #8According

    to the Bureau

    of Labor

    Statistics, 16.6

    million

    Americans

    were self-

    employed back

    in December

    2006. Today,

    that number

    has shrunkto

    14.5 million.

    #9A Gallup

    poll from

    earlier this year

    found that

    approximately

    one out of

    every five

    Americans that

    do have a job

    consider

    themselves to

    be

    underemployed.

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    #10According

    to author Paul

    Osterman,

    about20

    percentof all

    U.S. adults are

    currently

    working jobs

    that pay

    poverty-level

    wages.

    #11 Back in

    1980, less than

    30%of all jobs

    in the United

    States were low

    income jobs.

    Today, more

    than 40%of all

    jobs in the

    United States

    are low income

    jobs.

    #12Back in

    1969, 95

    percent of allmen between

    the ages of 25

    and 54 had a

    job. In July,

    only81.2

    percentof men

    in that age

    group had a

    job.

    #13One

    recent survey

    found thatone

    out of every

    three

    Americanswould not be

    able to make a

    mortgage or

    rent payment

    next month if

    they suddenly

    lost their

    current job.

    #14The

    Federal Reserve

    recently

    announced that

    the total net

    worth of U.S.

    households

    declined by4.1

    percentin the

    3rd quarter of

    2011 alone.

    #15According

    to a recent

    study

    conducted by

    the BlackRock

    Investment

    Institute, the

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    ratio of

    household debt

    to personal

    income in the

    United States is

    now154

    percent.

    #16As the

    economy has

    slowed down,

    so has thenumber of

    marriages.

    According to a

    Pew Research

    Center

    analysis, only

    51 percentof

    all Americans

    that are at

    least 18 years

    old are

    currently

    married. Back

    in 1960, 72

    percentof all

    U.S. adults

    were married.

    #17The U.S.

    Postal Service

    has lost more

    than5 billion

    dollarsover

    the past year.

    #18In

    Stockton,

    California

    home prices

    have declined

    64 percent

    from where

    they were atwhen the

    housing

    market peaked.

    #19Nevada

    has had the

    highest

    foreclosure

    rate in the

    nation for59

    monthsin a

    row.

    #20If you can

    believe it, the

    median price

    of a home in

    Detroit is now

    just $6000.

    #21 According

    to the U.S.

    Census Bureau,

    18 percentof

    all homes in

    the state of

    Florida are

    sitting vacant.

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/18/real_estate/florida_vacant_homes/index.htmhttp://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-is-in-utter-shambles-and-the-state-should-take-it-over-immediately-2011-12http://www.cnbc.com/id/45682960http://www.businessinsider.com/most-miserable-cities-america-2011-12#6-stockton-california-15http://news.yahoo.com/post-office-near-default-losses-mount-5-1b-210808129.htmlhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/local/married-couples-at-a-record-low/2011/12/13/gIQAnJyYsO_story.htmlhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/local/married-couples-at-a-record-low/2011/12/13/gIQAnJyYsO_story.htmlhttp://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011-10-02/cnbc-consumers-economy/50619276/1
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    That figure is

    63 percent

    larger than it

    was just ten

    years ago.

    #22New home

    construction in

    the United

    States is on

    pace to seta

    brand new all-time record low

    in 2011.

    #23As I have

    written about

    previously, 19

    percent of all

    American men

    between the

    ages of 25 and

    34 are now

    living with

    their parents.

    #24Electricity

    bills in the

    United Stateshave risen

    faster than the

    overall rate of

    inflationfor

    five years in a

    row.

    #25According

    to the Bureau

    of Economic

    Analysis,

    health care

    costs

    accounted for

    just 9.5% of all

    personalconsumption

    back in 1980.

    Today they

    account for

    approximately

    16.3%.

    #26One study

    found that

    approximately

    41 percentof

    all working age

    Americans

    either have

    medical bill

    problems or

    are currently

    paying off

    medical debt.

    #27If you can

    believe it, one

    out of every

    seven

    Americanshas

    at least 10

    credit cards.

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    #28The

    United States

    spendsabout 4

    dollarson

    goods and

    services from

    China for every

    one dollar that

    China spends

    on goods and

    services from

    the UnitedStates.

    #29It is being

    projected that

    the U.S. trade

    deficit for

    2011 will be

    558.2 billion

    dollars.

    #30The

    retirement

    crisisin the

    United States

    just continues

    to get worse.

    According tothe Employee

    Benefit

    Research

    Institute, 46

    percentof all

    American

    workers have

    less than

    $10,000 saved

    for retirement,

    and29 percent

    of all American

    workers have

    less than

    $1,000 saved

    for retirement.

    #31 Today,

    one out of

    every six

    elderly

    Americans lives

    below the

    federal poverty

    line.

    #32According

    to a study that

    was just

    released, CEO

    pay at

    America's

    biggest

    companies

    rose by36.5%

    in just one

    recent 12

    month period.

    #33Today, the

    "too big to fail"

    banks are

    larger than

    ever. The total

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/archives/too-big-to-fail-10-banks-own-77-percent-of-all-u-s-banking-assetshttp://money.cnn.com/2011/12/15/news/companies/ceo_pay/index.htm?iid=HP_LNhttp://www.ncoa.org/press-room/press-release/one-in-six-seniors-lives-in.htmlhttp://www.ebri.org/pdf/surveys/rcs/2011/FS2_RCS11_Prepare_FINAL1.pdfhttp://www.ebri.org/pdf/surveys/rcs/2011/FS2_RCS11_Prepare_FINAL1.pdfhttp://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/25-bitter-and-painful-facts-about-the-coming-baby-boomer-retirement-crisis-that-will-blow-your-mindhttp://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/1005-trade/192857-trade-deficit-narrows-to-lowest-level-this-yearhttp://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/Press-Release/current_press_release/ft900.pdf
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    assets of the

    six largest U.S.

    banks

    increased by

    39 percent

    between

    September 30,

    2006 and

    September 30,

    2011.

    #34The sixheirs of Wal-

    Mart founder

    Sam Walton

    have a net

    worth that is

    roughly equal

    to thebottom

    30 percentof

    all Americans

    combined.

    #35According

    to an analysis

    of Census

    Bureau data

    done by the

    Pew ResearchCenter, the

    median net

    worth for

    households led

    by someone 65

    years of age or

    olderis 47

    times greater

    than the

    median net

    worth for

    households led

    by someone

    under the age

    of 35.

    #36If you can

    believe it, 37

    percentof all

    U.S.

    households

    that are led by

    someone under

    the age of 35

    have a net

    worth of zero

    or less than

    zero.

    #37A higher

    percentage of

    Americans is

    living in

    extreme

    poverty(6.7%)

    than has ever

    been measured

    before.

    #38Child

    homelessness

    in the United

    States is now

    33 percent

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    higher than it

    was back in

    2007.

    #39Since

    2007, the

    number of

    children living

    in poverty in

    the state of

    California has

    increasedby30 percent.

    #40Sadly,

    child povertyis

    absolutely

    exploding all

    over America.

    According to

    the National

    Center for

    Children in

    Poverty, 36.4%

    of all children

    that live in

    Philadelphia

    are living in

    poverty, 40.1%of all children

    that live in

    Atlanta are

    living in

    poverty, 52.6%

    of all children

    that live in

    Cleveland are

    living in

    poverty and

    53.6%of all

    children that

    live in Detroit

    are living in

    poverty.

    #41 Today,

    one out of

    every seven

    Americans is

    on food

    stamps and

    one out of

    every four

    American

    children is on

    food stamps.

    #42In 1980,

    government

    transfer

    payments

    accounted for

    just11.7%of

    all income.

    Today,

    government

    transfer

    payments

    account for

    more than 18

    percentof all

    income.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/america-middle-class-in-decline-2011-4#-9http://www.businessinsider.com/america-middle-class-in-decline-2011-4#-9http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/us/29foodstamps.htmlhttp://www.nccp.org/media/releases/release_136.htmlhttp://www.nccp.org/media/releases/release_136.htmlhttp://www.nccp.org/media/releases/release_136.htmlhttp://www.nccp.org/media/releases/release_136.htmlhttp://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/child-poverty-in-america-is-absolutely-exploding-16-shocking-statistics-that-will-break-your-hearthttp://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Millions-More-California-Children-Slip-into-Poverty-134842133.html
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    #43A

    staggering

    48.5%of all

    Americans live

    in a household

    that receives

    some form of

    government

    benefits. Back

    in 1983, that

    number was

    below 30percent.

    #44Right now,

    spending by

    the federal

    government

    accounts for

    about24

    percentof

    GDP. Back in

    2001, it

    accounted for

    just 18

    percent.

    #45For fiscal

    year 2011, theU.S. federal

    government

    had a budget

    deficit of

    nearly 1.3

    trillion dollars.

    That was the

    third year in a

    row that our

    budget deficit

    has topped one

    trillion dollars.

    #46If Bill

    Gates gave

    every singlepenny of his

    fortune to the

    U.S.

    government, it

    would only

    cover the U.S.

    budget deficit

    for about 15

    days.

    #47

    Amazingly, the

    U.S.

    government

    has now

    accumulated a

    total debt of

    15 trillion

    dollars. When

    Barack Obama

    first took office

    the national

    debt was just

    10.6 trillion

    dollars.

    #48If the

    federal

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    As for the culprit, there is

    no surprise here - all

    central planning, all the

    time.

    government

    began right at

    this moment to

    repay the U.S.

    national debt

    at a rate of one

    dollar per

    second, it

    would take

    over 440,000

    yearsto pay

    off the nationaldebt.

    #49The U.S.

    national debt

    has been

    increasing by

    an average of

    more than 4

    billion dollars

    per daysince

    the beginning

    of the Obama

    administration.

    #50During the

    Obama

    administration,the U.S.

    government

    has

    accumulated

    more debt than

    it did from the

    time that

    George

    Washington

    took officeto

    the time that

    Bill Clinton

    took office.

    Of course the

    heart of our

    economic

    problems is

    the Federal

    Reserve. The

    Federal Reserve

    is a perpetual

    debt machine,

    it has almost

    completely

    destroyed the

    value of the

    U.S. dollar and

    it has an

    absolutely

    nightmarish

    track record of

    incompetence.

    If the Federal

    Reserve system

    had never been

    created, the

    U.S. economy

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    assure the

    pseudo

    pickaninny

    marionette

    another

    term

    unless

    they

    invade

    Iran, call

    the whole

    thing anddeclare

    martial

    law as

    they seem

    to be

    preparing

    to do. the

    idea of

    participating

    in yet

    another

    sham

    election

    should be

    the

    occasion

    ofimmense

    misgiving

    at the very

    least. but

    any

    acknowledgment

    of

    inevitable

    would

    only leave

    the screen

    heads,

    internet

    voyeurs

    and

    keyboardjockeys

    nothing to

    contemplate

    but their

    own

    feckless

    and

    ineffectual

    impotence.

    go absorb

    yourself in

    yet

    another

    useless

    celluloid

    phantasy

    and await

    the arrival

    of "the

    One". you

    could be

    waiting a

    long time

    but you

    would still

    be in

    possession

    of your

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    1988125

    Fri, 12/16/2011

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    1987836

    Fri,

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    precious

    illusions.

    you just

    got

    fleeced.

    TheFourthStooge-

    ing

    Put

    me

    down

    for fifty

    clownbux.

    Robot Traders

    Mom

    You know

    what?

    Fuck Sean Hannity

    and fuck Bret

    Baier for that hit

    job last night.

    Throw in Bill

    O'Reilly and youhave the three

    biggest

    douchebags in

    Amerika.

    My son maybe a

    dumb troll, but he

    is twice as smart

    as that gaggle of

    fucktards.

    SheepDog-One

    Their

    job is

    to support

    politician

    masters, thats

    all, theyre

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    1988016

    Fri,

    12/16/2011

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    1987854

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    Fri,

    12/16/2011

    buttboys.

    Pladizow

    Presstitutes!

    A Lunatic

    Bret

    Baier.

    Whata piece of

    shit. He's

    damned lucky

    I wasn't Ron

    Paul last

    night.

    pakled

    This is

    strictly a

    subjective and

    meaningless

    observation

    from one who

    does not

    necessarily

    follow all

    posts, but I

    noticed that

    lately I havent

    ever seen

    Robot Traders

    Mom at thesame time as

    Robot trader. I

    also never see

    Clark Kent

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    1987999

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    1988048

    Fri, 12/16/2011 -

    14:14 | 1987750

    Robot

    Traders

    Mom

    That is a

    good

    observation@pakled.

    His $50

    Etrade

    account I

    set up on

    his

    birthday

    last month

    is down to

    $1.79

    right now.

    You will

    probably

    beingseing

    much

    more of

    me, then

    him, for

    awhile.

    Rest

    assured,

    we only

    look alike

    but are

    not the

    same

    person.

    SteveNYC

    #51 -

    Estimated

    number of

    wars the hopeless

    leadership has

    dragged country

    into recently.

    Pladizow

    Birth, Growth,

    Maturation,

    Decline and

    Death - where's

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    1987920

    Fri,

    12/16/2011

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    1988042

    America?

    An Ex-KGB Operative

    will give a hint:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?

    v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

    AssFire

    Excellent

    link...Many of us

    know the solution

    and what is

    logical.

    Unfortunately

    people lie to

    themselves about

    what is really

    humane. How

    many puppies

    should an owner

    be paid to raisewhen she has no

    income of her

    own?? It would be

    inhumane and

    racist not for us to

    pay for her to

    have more

    puppies??? Hard

    choices that will

    be made with

    fewer options the

    longer this

    country waits to

    pick a logical

    path.

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-

    news/unbelievable-

    mother-of-15-

    kids-som...

    Dr. Acula

    >Itwould

    be

    inhumane and

    racist not for

    us to pay for

    her to have

    more puppies?

    It's inhuman

    to steal 1 cent

    from Bill Gates

    to feed a

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    1988133

    starving child.

    Because it's

    stealing. And

    whether you

    mug someone

    on the street,

    or vote with

    1,000,000

    other people

    to mug

    someone, it's

    still stealing.It's a violation

    of property

    rights, the

    basis of the

    market

    economy and

    the foundation

    of civilization.

    It's beast-like

    behavior

    that disintegrates

    civilization

    and leads us

    inevitably to

    living in

    beast-likeconditions.

    RMolineaux

    I am

    astounded by

    the absolute

    absence of logic in

    the "collaps"

    interview, where he

    concludes that all of

    the (correct) statisticsthat he cites were the

    fault of the Federal

    Reserve. Staring him

    in the face are one

    statistic after another

    that testifies to the

    corruption and

    incompitence of the

    congress and

    president, as well as

    the operations of the

    Wall Street greed

    platoon.

    11b40

    It's the FED

    that allows

    it all to

    happen....or, more

    accurately, directs

    the show.

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    Fri, 12/16/2011 -

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    ReactionToClose...

    great post ...

    have seen a

    few of these ... but

    not the aggregate of

    '50'. Humbling &numbing ..... and it is

    terrifying ...

    vast-dom

    Scary is the

    understatement du

    jour!

    TeH FeD =

    Destruction of moralsand econ systems =

    illegal and

    unconstitutional.

    PD Quig

    Except for

    these facts

    about 'those

    living in poverty' in

    the US:

    80 percent of

    poor

    households

    have air

    conditioning. In

    1970, only 36

    percent of the

    entire U.S.

    population

    enjoyed air

    conditioning.

    92 percent of

    poor

    households

    have a

    microwave.

    Nearly three-

    fourths have a

    car or truck,

    and 31 percent

    have two or

    more cars or

    trucks.

    Nearly two-

    thirds have

    cable or

    satellite TV.

    Two-thirds

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    - 15:27 |

    1988031

    Fri, 12/16/2011

    - 15:32 |

    1988050

    Fri, 12/16/2011

    have at least

    one DVD player,

    and 70 percent

    have a VCR.

    Half have a

    personal

    computer, and

    one in seven

    have two or

    more

    computers.

    More than halfof poor families

    with children

    have a video

    game system,

    such as an

    Xbox or

    PlayStation.

    43 percent have

    Internet access.

    One-third have

    a wide-screen

    plasma or LCD

    TV.

    One-fourth

    have a digital

    video recorder

    system, such asa TiVo.

    Do I want to switch

    places? Of course not,

    but 90% of the rest of

    the world would.

    Willzyx

    How much

    of that

    stuff is hand me

    down or

    donations? The

    original

    Playstation is 18

    years old and can

    be bought on

    ebay for $10.

    WhiteNight123129

    Not 90% ,

    mabe a

    good 60%,

    it might be 40% in

    10 years....

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    1988087

    Sean7k

    Let's look

    at those

    facts:

    -people have air

    conditioning and

    microwaves

    because all rental

    housing already

    have them built

    in. Further, that

    air conditioning

    can be a window

    model. The

    microwave can be

    a counter top 90$

    model.

    -having a car or

    truck and having a

    nice car or truck

    that runs are two

    different things.

    - having a

    computer can be a

    result of previous

    good times when

    they had jobs.

    -same with video

    systems or tivo.

    -dial-up internet

    is not exactly

    expensive

    -90% of the world

    include China,

    India and Africa.

    So, we are to

    compare ourselves

    with 3rd world

    economic levels?

    Why not do a

    comparison with

    european income

    levels instead?

    Poverty is relative.

    You use measures

    of comparison

    within the same

    or similar

    populations

    unless you want

    to exaggerate

    your argument.

    Considering that

    the richest .02%

    have continued to

    increase the

    disparity in

    income and

    wealth for the last

    twenty years, this

    continued erosion

    in the standard of

    living for a

    significant part of

    the population is

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    - 16:02 |1988162

    a roaring

    condemnation of

    past and current

    political/economic

    policy in the US.

    Xkwisetly

    Paneful

    Yes

    compare to

    Europe:

    Avg living

    space in

    USA=800sq ft

    Avg living

    space in

    Europe=450sq

    ft

    Avg cars

    owned in USA

    per family 1.5

    Avg cars

    owned by Euro

    per family .5

    Avg price of

    petrol in USA

    3.35/gal

    Avg price of

    petrol in

    Europe

    $6.10/gal

    Avg citizen in

    the US is a

    homeowner

    and obese

    Avg citizen in

    Europe is a

    renter and is

    not obese

    Oh but it is

    utopia, I kep

    reading about

    it on the

    internet.

    The avg

    "poor"

    american lives

    better than

    the avg

    working Euro

    and it is not

    close.

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    Fri, 12/16/2011 - 14:02

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    Fri, 12/16/2011 - 14:03

    | 1987689

    Fri, 12/16/2011 - 14:27

    | 1987690

    pelican

    Everyone is

    such a

    downer.

    Come on, put on

    CNBC and follow

    Cramer into the grave.

    Anyway, if you are a

    Ann Barnhardt fan

    check this out....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?

    v=LPPxOP3na5o&feature=player_embedded#

    !

    sabra1

    #51

    500 lamp posts

    will be adorned with new

    hanging ornaments!

    Ahmeexnal

    HOPE AND

    CHANGE!

    hedgeless_horseman

    AMER-ICAN

    We settle for less!

    Buy local you fucking

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    #34The six

    heirs of Wal-

    Mart founder

    Sam Walton

    have a net

    worth that is

    roughly equal

    to thebottom30 percentof

    all Americans

    combined.

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    1987838

    Fri,

    12/16/2011

    - 15:15 |

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    Fri,

    morons!!!!

    Stop sending your capital

    out of town, out of state,

    and out of the country.

    Read The Geography of

    Nowhereby Kunstler.

    MachoMan

    Can't afford

    local, what's

    your next

    suggestion?

    hedgeless_horseman

    1. Local

    prices

    high?

    Great! So

    then be a

    local

    producer of

    something...anything!

    2. Stop buying

    crap

    3. Stop eating

    crap

    4. Get rid

    of the

    television

    5. Move to a

    town

    without

    a Wal-Mart

    The long-term

    truths are that we

    can't afford to

    NOT buy local,

    and there is no

    free lunch.

    SillySalesmanQu...

    AMEN!

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    12/16/2011

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    nope-1004

    As

    I've said

    before,

    Chinese

    goods are

    inexpensive

    for one

    reason

    and one

    reason

    only:

    They're

    100%

    JUNK.

    Yes, buy

    local.

    Make

    local. Do

    local. The

    shit

    coming offthe boat is

    only

    adding

    toxicity to

    our

    landfills.

    IBelieveInMagic

    Wouldn't

    reducing your

    consumption

    just aggravate

    the recession

    -- your spend

    is ultimately

    somebody's

    income.

    The truth is

    that there are

    no easy

    options and

    all our

    blaming X, Y

    or Z (read

    Obama,

    Bernanke,

    Congress,

    banksters,

    who have, of

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    course,

    aggravated

    and hastened

    the disaster by

    taking

    advantage of

    their status)

    for this state

    of affairs is

    futile. The

    reality is that

    humans are bynature not

    prone to

    cooperate and

    work with self

    enlightened

    self interest -

    - if the

    banksters had

    not taken

    advantage,

    there would

    have been

    some other

    advantaged

    party that

    would have

    exploited thesituation.

    Mind you, I

    am not an

    apologist for

    banks -- I am

    just trying to

    understand

    and articulate

    the reality.

    hedgeless_horseman

    Aggravate

    the

    recession?

    You

    wouldn't

    happen to

    be a Nobel

    Prize

    winning

    writer for

    the NYT

    with the

    initials PK?

    The

    recession,

    as you

    say, was

    not caused

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    by

    reduced

    consumption.

    It was

    caused by

    too much

    debt.

    So, by

    your

    thinking, shouldn't

    reducing

    debtappease

    the

    recession?

    If so,

    then

    reducing

    debt can easily

    be

    accomplished

    by

    increasing

    income

    (producing

    something)

    and

    reducingexpenses (consumption).

    This is

    exactly

    what I

    advocate

    above.

    Confused

    The

    reality is

    that

    humans

    are by

    nature

    not prone

    to

    cooperate

    and work

    with self

    enlightened

    self

    interest

    Then

    please

    explain

    how

    society

    came

    about?

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    ffart

    Theking

    steals

    all the

    children,

    forces

    them

    into

    government

    indoctrination

    camps

    where

    they're

    taught

    that

    there

    wasalways

    a

    kingdom

    and

    without

    the

    kingdom

    enforcing

    laws

    cooperation

    between

    them

    would

    be

    impossible

    since

    they're

    all evil

    and

    need

    to be

    controlled

    by

    their

    wise

    and

    just

    rulers.

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    Sudden Debt

    That is

    the

    biggest

    load of crap ever!!

    To many peoplelike to buy to

    much cheap stuff.

    Buy to much

    cheap food, and

    you know what?

    Most Americans

    are FAT ASSES!!!

    Can't afford? LOSE

    WEIGHT EAT LESS

    FATSO'S!!!!

    I mostly buy

    healthy local food.

    I CARE ABOUT MY

    HEALTH!

    Every time I go tothe US, I take

    photo's of all the

    Fat people to

    show at home and

    to make fun of!

    When we think of

    Americans, we

    think of fat

    people!

    How fucked up is

    that?!

    Willzyx

    For

    most products

    other than food,

    local doesn't

    even exist.

    HandymanI'll bet the

    bottom 30%

    spend 50% of

    their net income at

    Wallmart.

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    - 14:55 |

    1987900

    Fri, 12/16/2011 - 14:04

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    Milton Waddams

    Re #34 - if you

    have two nickles

    to rub together

    after factoring in money

    owed you likey have a

    greater net worth than

    the lower 30 percent

    combined.

    InconvenientCou...

    If you have

    nickels, don't

    spend them.

    If you happen to ever

    place an order to the

    U.S. mint for a pallet

    of nickels and they

    ask why, tell them

    "...it's because you

    like nickels."

    SoNH80

    What this

    country

    needs is a

    good nickle cigar.

    pods

    Other than that

    Mrs. Lincoln, how

    did you like the

    play?

    pods

    youLilQuantFuker

    I dunno. It'snot scary, it's

    time to

    awaken people.

    Kind of reminds me of

    stories told about the

    Brits infiltrating

    Ireland. The brits had

    organizations to bribe

    the politicians in

    order to get their way.

    They would then vote

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    in and appoint judges

    to the bench to

    change laws and favor

    the brits.

    The goal was to loot

    the country and

    enslave the people.

    Then the IRA fought

    back and won.

    I wonder what the

    Lizards are going to

    do when the American

    Republican Army

    (ARA) comes looking

    for them?

    hedgeless_horseman

    The IRA didn't

    win. It sued for

    peace. Northern

    Ireland is still part

    of the UK.

    Canaduh

    America peaked

    with the XFL.

    Jumbotron

    Homer wouldagree.

    http://flowtv.org/wp-

    content/uploads/2009/10/xfl.png

    Wannabee

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    the

    IRA

    fought

    back

    and

    won.

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    Fri, 12/16/2011

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    Fri,

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    Priceless...He

    Hate Me

    sabra1

    House Passes $1

    Trillion-PlusSpending Bill,

    Avoiding Government

    Shutdown (Story

    Developing)

    A Lunatic

    Yes, and

    guess what?

    No one even

    had time to read the

    mother fucker. Feelingrepresented yet? This

    is BULLSHIT.

    Kaiser Sousa

    Look,

    didn't u

    get the

    memo...this is a

    democracy

    man...that's whyeverybody

    hates....because of

    our

    freedoms!!!!!!!!!!!

    A Lunatic

    I'm

    stillusing

    the original

    memo.........

    the

    Constitution.

    I'm old

    school............,

    Bitchez.

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