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Partial Transcript of Stenographic Notes

of the Regular En Banc

Held on March 30, 2010

Present:

Chairman

Comrnissioner

Commissioner

CommissionerCommissioner

Comrnissioner

Comrnissioner

Discussions on Secrecy Folder

Comm. Sarmiento

Chairman Melo

Comm. Tagle

Comm. Sarmiento

Comm. Tagle

Comm. Sarmiento

Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr.

Comm. Sanniento


Chairman Melo

Exec. Dir. Tolentino. Jr.

Chairman Melo

Jose A.R. Melo

Rene V. Sarmiento

Nicodemo T. Ferrer

Lucenito N. TagleArmando C. Velasco

Elias R. Yusoph

Gregorio Y,Larrazabal

Other matters Chair, tungkol ito doon sa security folders na doble

ong,

Secrecy

Secrecy folder

And then ang total amount ay six hundred eighty nine millionseven hundred thousand (Php 689,700,000.00) di pa kasama iyung

delivery, now ang concem natin ito ay gagamitin isang araw lang

baka maging issue sa atin ito, napakalaking amount, oo, umabot

ng 700 lumalabas iyung 380 baka Jun masyadong malaki

Magkano isa?

Lumalabas iyut g 380 per baka Jun masyadong malaki

Sir ano iyan, that was submitted by the BAC and then naka

indicate naman sa recommendations nila na ito iyung quantity ito

iyung unit price then in-approve naman, Sir ang palagay ko Sir

ang iniiisip nila dito sa ballot secrecy folder is like this it is not, in

fact diba nga sinasabi natin, it's so sturdy even without desk

even if you are on a bench you can put it in your lap, right now

sinasabi natin we can use it only once if we decide to automate sa

next election using a paper based elections at least reusable

That is in the event may... automation eh kung wala sayang

iyung 700 million

Kasi Sir on the basis of the resolution approving it

Yah, yah, we know that

The BAC already issued a notice of award

Ang ano diyan there was a resolution trom the BAC which we

approve the design, diba the design then later on the BAC came

up with a resolution again saying na parang direct negotiation

Yes Sirxec, Dir. Tolentino, Jr.

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Chairman Melo

Comm. Sarmiento

Atty. Dela Cruz

Comm. Sarmiento

Comm. Tagle

Comm. Ferer

Comm. Sarmiento

Comm. Velasco

Comm. Sarmiento

Comm. Velasco

Comm. Sarmiento


Chairman Melo

Comm. Ferer

Chairman Melo

Comm. Sarmiento

Chairman Melo

Comm. Yusoph

Comm. Tagle

Comm. Sarmiento

Ayon, iyorr ang inapprove natin now we are having second

thoughts na to tell you the truth because of the arnount inrrolved

baka pagusapan tayo sa labas

Actually Chair may complaint na po Chair eh a certain Dr. AlvinSenano of PPCRV wrclte a letter to the Cornelec En Banc

expressing his; concerns with the big amount of contract, may

letter na po

Kasi sa TV ang pinapakita ganitong folder, oo i-inseft mo iyang

ballot mo diyan ganito siya ganito lang folder

So siguro Chair there is a remedy..... considering this big amount

oh baka ..... baka ma cancel

Pero awarded na yata

It is violative of the procurement law, canceling....

And then may recommendation Chair ang Law Department na weaclopt the same ordinary ballot secrecy folders in the same

specifications as in the past so i-cite mo na lang. . ..

Pagdugtungin

Pagdugtungin

Iyung dalawa para

Ang issue malambot

Yes Sir, I am not def-ending the reason why we had a stacking

folder is to make sure that when the voter will write hindi ma

. . ..paganoon sa desk or what in addition

No problem about that eh, the design of the secrecy folder iyung

ipinakita rito maganda talaga kanya lang ngayon lumalabas na .

Iyung cost

Secrecy folder iyun lang ang ano

Isang gamit lang

Baka isang gamit lang iyan ang ano, that in the eyes of the public

it's just a folder to keep your choice. a secret but you are spending

so big an amount iyon ang ano, baka pag suspetsahan tayung lahat

ayon so what is the desire of the ano

We have to cancel it, we might be criticized for that, that would

be another f-ertilizer scam

Baka ma headline tayo

I am sure 703? lang iyon eh ito six hundred eighty nine (689)

plus delivery baka lalo pang, mga seven hundred (700) iyan

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Comm. Lanazabal The BAC was the one who made the recommendation

Chairman Melo At saka hindi bidding ito eh

Comm. Tagle Ah hindi, direct

Comm. Sarmiento Procurement without public biddingSo Chair I would join si Comm. Yusoph Chair and Comm.

Nick,.. ". Cancellation

Chairman Melo On what ground, on what ground

Comm. Sarmiento Siguro we look into Chair on possible legal basis for cancellation

Comm. Fener If there is a violation of the procurement law.

Comm. Sarmiento Sir meron siyang memo and I think the memorandum of DirectorRafanan .....pero noong binabasa ni Josie kahapon it appears that

the question is not on the procedure

Comm. Ferer It's in the pricing

Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Yes

Chairman Melo It's on the?

Comm. Ferrer Pricing

Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. And I don't think he is questioning the procedure it's just the price

Comm. Velasco Seven hundred (700) almost 10% of the total amount ofautomation, automation is seven (7) B and this one is seven

hundred (700) most cumbersome

Comm. Sarmiento Sir.... Dir Rafanan and I looked into this included in theirrecommendation Chair for possible legal basis for cancellation

Chairman Melo Sigue, alright

Comm. Tagle Kailan ang deadline niyan

Comm. Sarmiento Kailan ang deadline nito Jun?

Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Kaya iyan minadali Sir kasi iyung Shipping Committee wanted to

include that doon sa non accountable forms and supplies

Chairman Melo So

Comm. Tagle Problema

Chairman Melo When do wetake

up this matter again?

Comm. Velasco Next banc

Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Sir ang sa akin naman Sir, probably it wouldn't be proper to

cancel it kasi nag issue na nag notice of award eh baka tayo naman

ang ma demanda niyan

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Chairman Melo Yah, oh iyan

Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Most siguro Sir, negotiate for a lower price but not to cancel it kasi

noong nag notice of award most probably nag order na iyan, and

the only reason hindi nakaka-deliver is because of the requirementthat the purchase order must first be issued before delivery

Comm. Sarmiento May notice of award na, sigue Chair.....

Chairman Melo So what other matters iyung ano,

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rt'ffi-t<,zVirginia L. Robles

Stenographic Reporter IIIOffice of the Comelec Secretary

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