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B E F O R E T H E
D E L A W A R E R I V E R B A S I N C O M M I S S I O N
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I N R E : P H C R I T E R I A
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B E F O R E : C A R O L R . C O L L I E R , C h a i r
E R I K S I L L D O R F F , M e m b e r ,
P A M E L A B U S H , E S Q U I R E ,
A s s i s t a n t G e n e r a l C o u n s e l
H E A R I N G : T h u r s d a y , O c t o b e r 2 4 , 2 0 1 3
2 : 0 0 p . m .
L O C A T I O N : D e l a w a r e R i v e r B a s i n
C o m m i s s i o n
2 5 S t a t e P o l i c e D r i v e
W e s t T r e n t o n , N J 0 8 6 2 8
W I T N E S S E S : N o n e
R e p o r t e r : N i c o l e M o n t a g a n o
A n y r e p r o d u c t i o n o f t h i s t r a n s c r i p t
i s p r o h i b i t e d w i t h o u t a u t h o r i z a t i o n
b y t h e c e r t i f y i n g a g e n c y .
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A P P E A R A N C E S
A L S O P R E S E N T :
C l a r k e R u p e r t
T h o m a s F i k s l i n , P h . D .
F e r d o w s A l i
A . R o n a l d M a c g G i l l i v r a y , P h . D .
G r e g o r y C a v a l l o , P . G .
N a m s o o S u k , P h . D .
J u s t i n R a d e m a e k e r s
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I N D E X
O P E N I N G R E M A R K S
B y C h a i r 5 - 6
R O L L C A L L 6 - 7
P R E S E N T A T I O N
B y D r . S i l l d o r f 8 - 1 9
C L O S I N G R E M A R K S
B y C h a i r 1 9 - 2 1
C E R T I F I C A T E 2 2
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E X H I B I T S
P a g e
N u m b e r D e s c r i p t i o n O f f e r e d
N O N E O F F E R E D
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P R O C E E D I N G S
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
C H A I R :
G o o d a f t e r n o o n ,
e v e r y o n e . I ' m C a r o l C o l l i e r ,
E x e c u t i v e D i r e c t o r o f t h e
D e l a w a r e R i v e r B a s i n
C o m m i s s i o n . A n d I ' m o p e n i n g
t h e p u b l i c h e a r i n g o f t h e
p r o p o s e d a m e n d m e n t s t o D R B C ' s
W a t e r Q u a l i t y R e g u l a t i o n s W a t e r
C o d e a n d C o m p r e h e n s i v e P l a n t o
u p d a t e W a t e r Q u a l i t y c r i t e r i a
f o r p H . T h e s e p r o p o s e d c h a n g e s
w e r e u n a n i m o u s l y s u p p o r t e d b y
o u r W a t e r Q u a l i t y A d v i s o r y
C o m m i t t e e .
T h e p r o p o s e d c h a n g e s
w e r e p o s t e d o n D R B C ' s w e b s i t e
o n S e p t e m b e r 2 0 t h , 2 0 1 3 . A n d
t h e c o m m e n t p e r i o d c l o s e s a t
5 : 0 0 p . m . o n T h u r s d a y , N o v e m b e r
2 1 s t . W r i t t e n c o m m e n t s c a n b e
s e n t b y e - m a i l , f a x , U . S . M a i l
o r o v e r n i g h t d e l i v e r y . D e t a i l s
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c a n b e f o u n d o n o u r w e b s i t e .
W e a r e a l s o a c c e p t i n g w r i t t e n
c o m m e n t s t h i s a f t e r n o o n .
A n d b e f o r e I s t a r t ,
s i n c e w e ' r e s o f e w a n d w e h a v e
t w o v i s i t o r s , w h y d o n ' t w e g o
a r o u n d t h e r o o m a n d j u s t d o
i n t r o d u c t i o n s ?
M R . R U P E R T :
C l a r k e R u p e r t ,
C o m m u n i c a t i o n s M a n a g e r a t D R B C .
M R . R A D E M A E K E R S :
J u s t i n R a d e m a e k e r s . I ' m
a d o c t o r a l c a n d i d a t e a t P u r d u e
U n i v e r s i t y , b u t I ' m a l s o a
r e s i d e n t o f j u s t o u t s i d e o f
P h i l a d e l p h i a , W i l l o w
G r o v e / A b i n g t o n a r e a . A n d y o u
k n o w , j u s t i n t e r e s t e d i n t h e
p u b l i c c o m m u n i c a t i o n o f t h e
p r o p o s e d c h a n g e s .
M R . F I K S L I N :
T o m F i k s l i n . I a m h e r e
f r o m M o d e l i n g , M o n i t o r i n g &
A s s e s s m e n t f o r t h e C o m m i s s i o n .
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A T T O R N E Y B U S H :
P a m B u s h , C o m m i s s i o n
S e c r e t a r y a n d A s s i s t a n t G e n e r a l
C o u n s e l .
M R . S I L L D O R F F :
E r i k S i l l d o r f f , a q u a t i c
b i o l o g i s t o f D R B C .
M R . A L I :
O k a y . M y n a m e i s
F e r d o w s A l i . I r e p r e s e n t N e w
J e r s e y D e p a r t m e n t o f
A g r i c u l t u r e a n d A g I n d u s t r y , s o
t h e D e l a w a r e R i v e r B a s i n i s
v e r y c l o s e t o m y h e a r t .
M R . M A C G I L L I V R A Y :
R o n M a c G i l l i v r a y ,
d e p a r t m e n t t o x i c o l o g i s t , D R B C .
M R . C A V A L L O :
G r e g C a v a l l o , g e o l o g i s t ,
D R B C .
M R . S U K :
N a m s o o S u k , D R B C
M o d e l i n g S e c t i o n .
C H A I R :
T h a n k y o u . S o t o b e g i n ,
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I ' d l i k e t o a s k D r . E r i k
S i l l d o r f f o f t h e D R B C s t a f f t o
p r o v i d e a b r i e f b a c k g r o u n d a n d
t h e n o p e n t h e f l o o r t o
c o m m e n t s . D r . S i l l d o r f f ?
D R . S I L L D O R F F :
T h a n k y o u , C a r o l . T h i s
i s t h e c u l m i n a t i o n o f a p r o c e s s
t h a t b e g a n a n u m b e r o f y e a r s
a g o i n 2 0 0 9 , i n p a r t i c u l a r , w e
b e g a n r e v i e w i n g o u r p H c r i t e r i a
f o r p o s s i b l e r e v i s i o n . P H i s a
r e l a t i v e l y s i m i l a r m e a s u r e o f
w a t e r q u a l i t y . I t ' s a n
i n d i c a t i o n o f h y d r o g e n a n d i o n
c o n c e n t r a t i o n o r a c t i v i t y .
I t ' s a n e g a t i v e l o g i n P h a s e 1 0
o f t h e h y d r o g e n c o n c e n t r a t i o n .
A n d i t c a n b o t h d i r e c t l y a n d
i n d i r e c t l y a f f e c t t h e u s e s o f a
w a t e r b o d y b y b o t h a q u a t i c l i f e
a n d h u m a n s t h r o u g h t h e e f f e c t s
o n a c i t y , t h e a l k a l i n i t y ,
t h r o u g h t h e e f f e c t s o n m e t a l s
a n d o t h e r t o x i c c o m p o u n d s l i k e
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a m m o n i a .
A n d i t ' s a p a r a m e t e r
t h a t i s r o u t i n e l y m o n i t o r e d a n d
a s s e s s e d b y D R B C f o r b o t h
c o n t i n u o u s s e n s o r s t o g e t h i g h
d e n s i t y d a t a , a s w e l l a s t o
g r a b s a m p l e s o f v a r i o u s
l o c a t i o n s .
D R B C ' s c r i t e r i a f o r p H
w e r e f i r s t a d o p t e d b a c k i n
1 9 6 7 , a n d h a v e r e m a i n e d
u n c h a n g e d s i n c e 1 9 6 7 . S i n c e
t h a t t i m e , b o t h f e d e r a l a n d
s t a t e c r i t e r i a o r c r i t e r i a
r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s h a v e c h a n g e d
a n d e v o l v e d . A n d s o i n 2 0 0 9 ,
a g a i n , w e b e g a n t h e p r o c e s s o f
r e v i e w i n g o u r c r i t e r i a f o r
p o s s i b l e r e v i s i o n .
T h i s i s a q u i c k m a p
s h o w i n g t h e l o c a t i o n s o f t h e
i n t e r s t a t e z o n e s a l o n g t h e m a i n
s t e m D e l a w a r e R i v e r , a l l t h e
w a y f r o m t h e c o n f l u e n c e o f t h e
e a s t a n d w e s t b r a n c h i n
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H a n c o c k , N e w Y o r k , d o w n t o t h e
A t l a n t i c O c e a n . Z o n e s 1 A
t h r o u g h 1 E a r e a b o v e t h e h e a d
o f t i d e a n d a r e s h o w n i n t h e
m a p t h e r e , a l l f r e s h w a t e r
z o n e s .
Z o n e s 2 a n d 3 o f o u r
W a t e r Q u a l i t y C r i t e r i a
R e g u l a t i o n s a n d z o n e s a r e i n
t h e t i t l e p o r t i o n o f t h e
e s t u a r y b u t a r e f r e s h w a t e r
z o n e s w i t h i n t h a t t i t l e p o r t i o n
o f t h e e s t u a r y . S o w e
i n d i c a t e d t h e m w i t h a l i n e .
A n d t h e n Z o n e s 4 , 5 a n d
6 a r e t h e t r a n s i t i o n z o n e s i n t o
b r a c k i s h w a t e r . Z o n e 4 c a n b e
l a r g e l y o r e n t i r e l y f r e s h w a t e r
a t t i m e s , a n d z o n e 5 i s a
t r a n s i t i o n z o n e . A n d z o n e 6 i s
a t r u l y b r a c k i s h w a t e r z o n e
t r a n s i t i o n i n g t o t h e A t l a n t i c
O c e a n . A n d y o u c a n s e e t h a t w e
a c t u a l l y h a v e d i f f e r e n t
c r i t e r i a a b o v e t h e h e a d o f t i d e
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v e r s u s b e l o w t h e h e a d o f t i d e ,
r e g a r d l e s s o f w h e t h e r o r n o t
t h e w a t e r i s f r e s h o r s a l t f o r
t h e l o w e r c r i t e r i o n r a n g e w i t h
a 6 . 5 c r i t e r i o n a b o v e t h e h e a d
o f t i d e a n d a 6 . 5 c r i t e r i o n
b e l o w t h e h e a d o f t i d e i n t h e
t i d a l w a t e r s f o r b o t h
f r e s h w a t e r a n d s a l t w a t e r z o n e s ,
w h i l e t h e u p p e r c r i t e r i o n o f
8 . 5 i s c o n s i s t e n t t h r o u g h o u t
t h e m a i n s t e m D e l a w a r e R i v e r .
I w a n t e d t o v e r y b r i e f l y
r e v i e w t h e o r i g i n s a n d h i s t o r y
o f p H c r i t e r i a o v e r t h e 1 9 t h
c e n t u r y , I d i d n ' t w a n t t o g e t
i n t o t o o m u c h o f t h e d e t a i l s
f o r t h i s . A d d i t i o n a l d e t a i l s
c a n b e s e e n i n t h e b a s i s o f
b a c k g r o u n d d o c u m e n t s t h a t ' s
p r o v i d e d o n o u r w e b s i t e . B u t
i t i s w o r t h w h i l e t o n o t e b o t h
t h e n a r r o w e r r a n g e t h a t p e o p l e
h a v e g e n e r a l l y a d o p t e d f o r
w a t e r q u a l i t y c r i t e r i a f o r p H
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g o i n g b a c k t o t h e m i d d l e p a r t
o f t h e 1 9 t h c e n t u r y w i t h N e w
Y o r k a n d o t h e r a g e n c i e s
a d o p t i n g a 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 r a n g e , a s
w e l l a s w i d e r r a n g e s t h a t h a v e
e i t h e r b e e n r e c o m m e n d e d o r
a d o p t e d f o r c r i t e r i a , r a n g i n g
d o w n t o 5 . 0 , o r 6 . 0 o n t h e
l o w e r e n d o f t h e r a n g e o r u p t o
9 . 0 o r a 9 . 5 o n t h e u p p e r e n d
o f t h e r a n g e .
A n d o n e t h i n g I w a n t t o
h i g h l i g h t , w h i c h w a s a g o o d
s y n t h e s i s t h a t i s i n c l u d e d a s
p a r t o f o u r a p p e n d i x e s , i s t h e
1 9 7 2 r e c o m m e n d a t i o n f r o m t h e
N a t i o n a l A c a d e m y o f S c i e n c e s
a n d N a t i o n a l A c a d e m y o f
E n g i n e e r i n g , o t h e r w i s e k n o w n a s
t h e B l u e b o o k f o r w a t e r q u a l i t y
c r i t e r i a t h a t s u g g e s t e d t h a t
t h e r e w e r e d i f f e r e n t r a n g e s o f
p H t h a t w o u l d r e n d e r s u r f a c e
w a t e r s u i t a b l e f o r d i f f e r e n t
t y p e s o f u s e s . A n d f o r g e n e r a l
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w a t e r s u p p l y , t h e y r e c o m m e n d e d
a b r o a d r a n g e o f 5 . 0 t o 9 . 0 .
B u t t h e n f o r a q u a t i c l i f e , t h e y
l i s t e d d i f f e r e n t r a n g e s
d e p e n d i n g o n t h e l e v e l o f
p r o t e c t i o n t h a t o n e m i g h t w a n t
t o i n s t i l l f o r d i f f e r e n t t y p e s
o f a q u a t i c l i f e , w i t h t h e
m a x i m u m l e v e l o f p r o t e c t i o n
b e i n g a 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 r a n g e ,
s l i g h t l y l o w e r p r o t e c t i o n
s p a n n i n g a 6 . 0 t o 9 . 0 r a n g e .
A n d t h e n a r e l a t i v e l y l o w
p r o t e c t i o n f o r f r e s h w a t e r a n d
a q u a t i c l i f e , b e i n g a r a n g e
f r o m 5 . 5 t o 9 . 5 .
S u b s e q u e n t l y E P A h a s
a d o p t e d r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s t h a t
a r e k i n d o f i n t e r m e d i a t e t o
s o m e o f t h o s e , 6 . 5 t o 9 . 0
r a n g e , g e n e r a l l y s p e a k i n g i n
t h e R e d B o o k a n d i n t h e G o l d
B o o k f r o m t h e 1 9 8 0 s .
A s p a r t o f o u r c r i t e r i a
r e v i e w , t h e m o s t r e l e v a n t
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c r i t e r i a t o p r e p a r e - - - o u r
c r i t e r i a t o - - - o r t h e c r i t e r i a
o f o u r b a s i n s t a t e s . A n d s o
t h i s i s a s u m m a r y o f t h o s e
c o m p a r i s o n , a l t h o u g h i t d o e s n ' t
i n c l u d e e v e r y p o s s i b l e p H
c r i t e r i a b e c a u s e t h e r e a r e
n u m e r o u s c r i t e r i a f o r e a c h o f
t h e s t a t e s . B u t i t s u m m a r i z e s
m o s t o f t h e r e l e v a n t c r i t e r i a
w i t h D R B C ' s c r i t e r i a o f t h e
u p p e r p o r t i o n s h o w i n g t h e
d i f f e r e n c e b e t w e e n t h e
n o n - t i t l e z o n e s , z o n e 1 A
t h r o u g h 1 E a n d 6 . 0 t o 8 . 5
r a n g e , a n d t h e n t h e t i t l e r a n g e
f r o m 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 .
F o r D e l a w a r e , a l l w a t e r s
i n D e l a w a r e h a v e a p H c r i t e r i a
s e t a t 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 . I n N e w
J e r s e y , s t r e a m w a t e r s h a v e a
6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 , l i k e w i s e a s d o m o s t
f r e s h w a t e r s y s t e m s , F W - 2
s y s t e m s . A l t h o u g h , a s y o u m o v e
i n t o t h e l o w e r D e l a w a r e i n t h e
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c o a s t a l p l a i n s y s t e m s , y o u d o
h a v e a r a n g e o f 4 . 5 t o 7 . 5 t o
r e c o g n i z e t h e a c i d i c w a t e r s
t h a t a r e d r a i n i n g f r o m t h e
p i n e l a n d s . A n d t h e n i n t h e
p i n e l a n d s , s p e c i f i c a l l y y o u
h a v e t h e n a r r o w e r a n d l o w e r
r a n g e o f 3 . 5 t o 5 . 5 t o
r e c o g n i z e t h e n a t u r a l a c i d i t y
i n t h e p i n e l a n d s . A n d t h e n a s
y o u g e t i n t o c o a s t a l w a t e r s i n
N e w J e r s e y , t h e c r i t e r i a a r e
a c t u a l l y t h e n a t u r a l p H b e c a u s e
c o n d i t i o n s w i l l p r e v a i l .
I n N e w Y o r k m o s t
f r e s h w a t e r s y s t e m s h a v e , a g a i n ,
t h e n a r r o w r a n g e o f 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 .
W h e r e a s t h e i r l o w e s t q u a l i t y
w a t e r , t h e i r C l a s s D w a t e r s
h a v e t h e b r o a d e r r a n g e o f 6 . 0
t o 9 . 5 . A n d t h e n f o r s a l t w a t e r
c r i t e r i a , t h e y d o n ' t h a v e a
n u m e r i c r a n g e , t h e y l i s t a
t h r e s h o l d f o r t h e a m o u n t o f p h
c h a n g e t h a t w o u l d b e a l l o w a b l e .
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A n d t h a t w o u l d b e a n 0 . 1 u n i t
c h a n g e .
P e n n s y l v a n i a a d o p t e d a
b r o a d e r r a n g e f o r t h e i r p H
c r i t e r i a b e g i n n i n g a t 6 . 0 o n
t h e l o w e r e n d a n d e x t e n d i n g u p
t o 9 . 0 . A n d t h a t , a s y o u c a n
s e e f o r t h e c o m p a r i s o n t o E P A s
r e c o m m e n d e d p H c r i t e r i a , i t ' s
c o n s i s t e n t o n t h e u p p e r e n d o f
t h e r a n g e w i t h E P A s c u r r e n t
r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s o f 9 . 0 f o r
f r e s h w a t e r s y s t e m s . A l t h o u g h
i t i s s l i g h t l y b e l o w t h e
c u r r e n t r e c o m m e n d a t i o n f o r E P A
o f 6 . 5 o n t h e l o w e r e n d o f t h e
r a n g e .
A l l o f t h e b a s i n s t a t e s
a l s o h a v e p r o v i s i o n s t h a t a l l o w
f o r n a t u r a l e x c u r s i o n s o u t s i d e
t h e s e p H r a n g e s i f t h o s e
e x c u r s i o n s a r e d u e t o n a t u r a l
p h e n o m e n o n . A n d y o u c a n s e e
t h a t e x p l i c i t l y i n t h e l a s t
c o l u m n f o r D e l a w a r e , w h e r e i n
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t h e i r p H c r i t e r i a , s p e c i f i c a l l y
t h e y l i s t e d a s 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5
u n l e s s o u t s i d e t h i s r a n g e d u e
s o l e l y t o n a t u r a l c o n d i t i o n s .
F o r m a n y o f t h e o t h e r s t a t e s ,
t h o s e n a t u r a l c o n d i t i o n s
p r o v i s i o n s a r e i n c l u d e d m o r e
b r o a d l y f o r a l l w a t e r q u a l i t y
a n d a r e n ' t n e c e s s a r i l y i n c l u d e d
s p e c i f i c a l l y i n t h e p H
c r i t e r i a .
A n d t h a t w a s o n e t h i n g ,
t h a t w h e n D R B C d i d t h e p H
r e v i e w , w e r e c o g n i z e d t h a t w e
d i d n o t h a v e t h a t t y p e o f
l a t i t u d e t o r e c o g n i z e t h e f a c t
t h a t p H s o m e t i m e s d o e s g o b e l o w
b o t h 6 . 5 t h a t w e b e l i e v e i s d u e
t o n a t u r a l c o n d i t i o n s , a s w e l l
a s e x c e e d i n g 8 . 5 d u e t o n a t u r a l
c o n d i t i o n s , h i g h p r o d u c t i v i t y
d u r i n g h i g h l i g h t p e r i o d s w h e n
y o u h a v e l a r g e l e v e l s o f
p h o t o s y n t h e s i s i n t h e D e l a w a r e
R i v e r .
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A s a r e s u l t , w e p r o p o s e d
t o o u r W a t e r Q u a l i t y A d v i s o r y
C o m m i t t e e , a r e v i s i o n t o o u r
c r i t e r i a g o i n g f r o m 6 . 0 t o 8 . 5
r a n g e a b o v e t h e h e a d o f t i d e
a n d a 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 b e l o w t h e h e a d
o f t i d e t o a u n i f o r m c r i t e r i a
r a n g e o f 6 . 5 t o 8 . 5 , i n c l u s i v e ,
u n l e s s o u t s i d e t h i s r a n g e d u e
t o n a t u r a l c o n d i t i o n s .
A n d s o o n e r e l a t i v e l y
m i n o r r e v i s i o n g o i n g f r o m t h e
6 . 0 t o t h e 6 . 5 f o r t h e l o w e r
e n d o f t h e p H c r i t e r i a r a n g e
a n d t h e n a n i n c l u s i o n o f a
n a t u r a l c o n d i t i o n s p r o v i s i o n t o
a l l o w u s t o a s s e s s w a t e r s w e
b e l i e v e m o r e a p p r o p r i a t e l y a n d
t o r e c o g n i z e n a t u r a l v a r i a t i o n s
i n p H t h a t o c c u r b o t h b e c a u s e
o f p r o d u c t i v i t y a n d b e c a u s e o f
r e l a t i v e l y w e a k l y - b u f f e r e d
s y s t e m s s u c h a s t h e p i n e l a n d s ,
o r t h e P o c o n o s o r t h e C a t s k i l l s
w h e r e p H c a n n a t u r a l l y a c t u a l l y
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o c c u r b e l o w 6 . 5 i n t h e p H
r a n g e .
A n d s o t h a t r e a l l y i s
t h e e x t e n t o f o u r p r o p o s e d
c r i t e r i a . I t ' s a r e l a t i v e l y
s t r a i g h t f o r w a r d r e v i s i o n t h a t
w e a r e r e c o m m e n d i n g a n d h a v e
p r o p o s e d f o r r u l e m a k i n g . A n d
a g a i n , a r o s e o u t o f a
r e l a t i v e l y r o u t i n e e f f o r t t o
e x a m i n e o u r c r i t e r i a a n d l o o k
f o r c o n s i s t e n c y a m o n g o u r b a s i n
s t a t e s a n d t o a s s e s s w h e t h e r o r
n o t o u r c r i t e r i a w e r e
a p p r o p r i a t e a n d p r o t e c t i v e o f
a q u a t i c l i f e a n d t h e o t h e r u s e s
f o r t h e m a i n s t e m D e l a w a r e
R i v e r .
C H A I R :
T h a n k y o u v e r y m u c h . W e
h a d o n e p e r s o n s i g n u p t o
t e s t i f y , L e l a n d S n y d e r , b u t
t h a t p e r s o n d o e s n o t s e e m t o b e
h e r e . D o e s a n y o n e e l s e i n t h e
r o o m w i s h t o p r o v i d e t e s t i m o n y
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f o r t h i s c r i t e r i a c h a n g e ?
S e e i n g n o n e , I w o u l d
l i k e t o k e e p t h i s o p e n t o 2 : 3 0
s i n c e t h e p e r s o n t h a t d i d s i g n
u p i s f r o m t h e U p p e r B a s i n a n d
I ' d l i k e t o g i v e a l i t t l e b i t
o f e x t r a t i m e s o - - - .
A T T O R N E Y B U S H :
S o w h y d o n ' t w e t a k e a
r e c e s s a n d w e ' l l c o m e b a c k a t
2 : 3 0 ?
C H A I R :
C o m e b a c k a t 2 : 2 5 .
A T T O R N E Y B U S H :
O k a y .
S H O R T B R E A K T A K E N
C H A I R :
A l l r i g h t . W e ' l l r e o p e n
t h e m e e t i n g , p l e a s e , u n t i l
2 : 3 0 . A n y b o d y w a n t t o m a k e
c o m m e n t ?
O F F R E C O R D D I S C U S S I O N
C H A I R :
S e e i n g t h a t i t ' s 2 : 3 0 , I
c a l l t h i s p u b l i c h e a r i n g
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c l o s e d . T h a n k y o u v e r y m u c h
f o r y o u r a t t e n d a n c e .
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C E R T I F I C A T E
I h e r e b y c e r t i f y , a s t h e
s t e n o g r a p h i c r e p o r t e r , t h a t t h e
f o r e g o i n g p r o c e e d i n g s w e r e t a k e n
s t e n o g r a p h i c a l l y b y m e , a n d t h e r e a f t e r
r e d u c e d t o t y p e w r i t i n g b y m e o r u n d e r
m y d i r e c t i o n ; a n d t h a t t h i s t r a n s c r i p t
i s a t r u e a n d a c c u r a t e r e c o r d t o t h e
b e s t o f m y a b i l i t y .